FREEDOM OF SPEECH

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:03:49 AM
I just got Warning from Souza for my opinion on Jermaine.
I assume Souza is from Germany, and not sure if they have freedom of speech, but in USA we do have that freedom. That makes me sick. She has always done this to many people who use their brains. Here:

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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:08:42 AM
I think it may have had something to do with the word 'WHORE'  :mrgreen:
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:14:04 AM
Do you mean that in Europe we don't have freedom of speech? I think you'd better think twice, and let me tell you that the warning it's not about your opinion it's about the words you used to express it.
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:19:15 AM
Not wanting to crush any icecubes here but watching our words is the least we can do in a public forum.
We are - most of the times - nice people in here.
There is no need to go out of order in our expressions.

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of street language, freedom of humiliating, freedom of dirty expressions.
We have minors on this forum, this is a public forum and by signing in everybody has accepted the rules of this forum. These rules are referring to a minimum understanding of respect and dignity. Besides there are common sense rules and matters of illegal actions - even under freedom of speech aspects.

We sometimes read statements "as if certain persons really would have done this or that" followed by examples. This is not freedom of personal opinion, this is public accusal which may be considered in mild cases as damaging somebody's reputation and in strong cases as public defamation and false allegation.
One may be sued for this because this is a crime.

With regards to all these aspects, the warning you received has substantial value.
You should not complain but thank the admins for warning you first.
There is no need to put the blame on others. Dare looking in the mirror of what you actually said and did. Check the web for what risk you are running.

The international aspect you may easily skip out of the picture.
Especially the web knows international law - there is no America and no Europe separated in there. Same principles apply everywhere.

We have come a long way, ladies.
This is not the right time to give up and ruin the forum.
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:19:58 AM
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Do you mean that in Europe we don't have freedom of speech? I think you'd better think twice, and let me tell you that the warning it's not about your opinion it's about the words you used to express it.

I said I'm not sure if in Germany there is freedom of speech.
Well, there was no explanation on warning. I got it, I should write "W&0RE"
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:22:36 AM
Yeah your right,,, HAHAHAH... the name of this site is: Dubble DUTCH forum, so you think its from Germany....Before you waste your energy in this kind of posts, you better do some homework!!!
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:29:34 AM
Quote from: "Venus7"
I just got Warning from Souza for my opinion on Jermaine.
I assume Souza is from Germany, and not sure if they have freedom of speech, but in USA we do have that freedom. That makes me sick. She has always done this to many people who use their brains. Here:

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Venus7 - I am sorry for your difficulties on this site.  Michael has always pushed the message of looking at the man in the mirror. I know it's difficult but if you've done that and can still say there is no reason for the warning, fine. But, sometimes you seem overly critical or defensive. I think you have thought provoking comments and questions. I appreciate what you have to offer here as you don't just accept everything that is said. It's my hope you are able to move past this and continue searching for answers like the rest of us. It's not healthy to hold a grudge. Blessings on your day.
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:33:30 AM
Don't start and attack Europe. Ofcourse there is freedom of speech in Germany, just like in the rest of Europe. Educate yourself before making such wild accusations.

If I'm correct Souza is from the very country that FOUNDED the USA in the first place. Watch the color ORANGE! Furthermore it's her forum, she can do whatever she likes with it
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:37:43 AM
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Don't start and attack Europe. Ofcourse there is freedom of speech in Germany, just like in the rest of Europe. Educate yourself before making such wild accusations.

If I'm correct Souza is from the very country that FOUNDED the USA in the first place. Watch the color ORANGE! Furthermore it's her forum, she can do whatever she likes with it

I'm not attacking Europe, I'm originally from Europe also.
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:39:21 AM
Venus7, I used basically the same term "media w****" to describe David Gest on the old closed forum and was not reprimanded on it. They were also deemed to be a stricter forum. I used the term with affection and humor and the connotations are not necessarily sexual as you will see from the link. According to the "Urban Dictionary" (I know it's not Collin's or Roget's Thesaurus) the primary definition is psychological and the secondary meaning can be sexual.http://http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=media%20whore
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:40:05 AM
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Don't start and attack Europe. Ofcourse there is freedom of speech in Germany, just like in the rest of Europe. Educate yourself before making such wild accusations.

If I'm correct Souza is from the very country that FOUNDED the USA in the first place. Watch the color ORANGE! Furthermore it's her forum, she can do whatever she likes with it

I'm not attacking Europe, I'm originally from Europe also.

HAHA, really.. A shame.. Even more when you are originally from Europe to think they are from Germany!!
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:43:19 AM
Venus7, you are seriously pissing me off. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, you were being disrespectful and your language is not appreciated. Consider this as your last warning. If something like this occurs again, it's bye bye.

And let me teach you about THE NETHERLANDS, we are the most free country in the world and freedom of speech is one of our most important rights, but unlike you, we know how to use it.

Again: last warning or you're out.
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:46:02 AM
Venus7 is welcome like all others who joined.
Just based on some common principles. We all are not 100% perfect and the fairest thing we can do is to say: "I am sorry" or "I didn't know". And then it's over. For all persons.
NO need to dwell on this - just let it go.

We are a big family. Happily. I am glad about every day we may share this with each other.
There are many who have nobody. What a blessing to be here, isn't it?
Spread the L.O.V.E. and respect the rules.
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:46:33 AM
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Don't start and attack Europe. Ofcourse there is freedom of speech in Germany, just like in the rest of Europe. Educate yourself before making such wild accusations.

If I'm correct Souza is from the very country that FOUNDED the USA in the first place. Watch the color ORANGE! Furthermore it's her forum, she can do whatever she likes with it

I'm not attacking Europe, I'm originally from Europe also.

HAHA, really.. A shame.. Even more when you are originally from Europe to think they are from Germany!!

yes, I know...last time I was in Germany was 7 years ago, so not sure what is going on over there, only my german friends tell me that unemployment sky rocketed over there, that's all. But very beautiful country, although I liked it way more before they united with Eastern Germany.
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:48:34 AM
well maybe its best not to use bad words then.  Ofcourse there is freedom here, and everyone is allowed an oppinion. But  a better use of words might be good.

And anyway.. a belive she is dutch and not german... but it doesnt matter since both are european  countries  and therefor have freedom of speach. (i dont understand americans who think that they are the only ones who are "free")
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:51:07 AM
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Venus7, you are seriously pissing me off. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, you were being disrespectful and your language is not appreciated. Consider this as your last warning. If something like this occurs again, it's bye bye.

And let me teach you about THE NETHERLANDS, we are the most free country in the world and freedom of speech is one of our most important rights, but unlike you, we know how to use it.

Again: last warning or you're out.


Must be nice to have this power, Souza can you come to Canada and tell my 23 year old son to 'Beat It' and find his own place to live?? Please?  :lol:
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:52:20 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Venus7, you are seriously pissing me off. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, you were being disrespectful and your language is not appreciated. Consider this as your last warning. If something like this occurs again, it's bye bye.

And let me teach you about THE NETHERLANDS, we are the most free country in the world and freedom of speech is one of our most important rights, but unlike you, we know how to use it.

Again: last warning or you're out.

I visted Netherlands and I liked it over there. Yes, there is more freedom it's true. Same thing with other social services for their citizens.
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:55:18 AM
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Venus7, I used basically the same term "media w****" to describe David Gest on the old closed forum and was not reprimanded on it. They were also deemed to be a stricter forum. I used the term with affection and humor and the connotations are not necessarily sexual as you will see from the link. According to the "Urban Dictionary" (I know it's not Collin's or Roget's Thesaurus) the primary definition is psychological and the secondary meaning can be sexual.http://http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=media%20whore

Thank you. I liked that very much, very informative and seems using "media" before "w#@#E makes this not a foul language.
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:56:40 AM
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Venus7, you are seriously pissing me off. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, you were being disrespectful and your language is not appreciated. Consider this as your last warning. If something like this occurs again, it's bye bye.

And let me teach you about THE NETHERLANDS, we are the most free country in the world and freedom of speech is one of our most important rights, but unlike you, we know how to use it.

Again: last warning or you're out.


Must be nice to have this power, Souza can you come to Canada and tell my 23 year old son to 'Beat It' and find his own place to live?? Please?  :lol:

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

My mom used to say that until I left when I was 23, now she is already begging me for years to come back home because she misses me, hahahaha.
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Re: I DON'T KNOW THE MEANING OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH

  • on: February 19, 2010, 09:57:58 AM
Hey Venus7! it's ok, don't worry anymore...just try to don't be rude with your post, i'm sure that nobody here is against you, including souza.Your opinion is as wellcome as all the others.
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Re: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON THIS SITE

  • on: February 19, 2010, 10:00:44 AM
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Venus7, you are seriously pissing me off. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, you were being disrespectful and your language is not appreciated. Consider this as your last warning. If something like this occurs again, it's bye bye.

And let me teach you about THE NETHERLANDS, we are the most free country in the world and freedom of speech is one of our most important rights, but unlike you, we know how to use it.

Again: last warning or you're out.


Must be nice to have this power, Souza can you come to Canada and tell my 23 year old son to 'Beat It' and find his own place to live?? Please?  :lol:

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

My mom used to say that until I left when I was 23, now she is already begging me for years to come back home because she misses me, hahahaha.

Oh I'm sure It'll be the same for me too , just wondering if I'll ever find out.  :lol:
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Re: I DON'T KNOW THE MEANING OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH

  • on: February 19, 2010, 10:02:25 AM
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Hey Venus7! it's ok, don't worry anymore...just try to don't be rude with your post, i'm sure that nobody here is against you, including souza.Your opinion is as wellcome as all the others.

Thank you
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Re: I DON'T KNOW THE MEANING OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH

  • on: February 19, 2010, 10:03:04 AM
Case Closed! ;)
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