Vitiligo-Spots?

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Offline lynnandsofee

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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: March 17, 2010, 11:11:38 PM
What the hell does it matter???
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: March 18, 2010, 12:06:54 AM
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For all you skeptics, watch the scene in the Martin Bashire interview with Jackson in a Las Vegas hotel, talking about his first sexual experiences and Tatum Oneal. He puts his pink hand up to his white face but his fingernails are still brown! That is because you can’t get bleaching cream under your fingernails, you can see this in many other pictures on line too.


I think the whole Vitiligo explanation was devised by Jackson’s publicists and he is trapped in this tragic lie.

Wow!  I cant believe anyone would still question this...first, I want to say that African Americans do not have brown nails.  MJ's nails themselves have the brown pigment within them and this can only be caused by something he is ingesting that is being deposited in his nail root and growing out with his nail.  There are many types of medications that do this, some that treat Lupus...which MJ has.  I am including a picture of MJ, white with white nails, and MJ white with brown nails, so you can see this is something that happened after he became totally white.  I am also including a picture of an African Americans nails to show you that they are not brown.  African Americans, in my opinion, have the most lovely nails and nail beds.  I have noticed that many African Americans (like MJ) have long nail beds and very white half moons and beds.  This contrast with the brown of their skin, is so lovely.  MJ's nails are brown from discoloration.

As for the vitiligo and the reason why he had brown eye skin in those videos...because usually those are the last parts to become discolored...as you can see from this picture.

where are you getting your facts from? black people don't have brown nails? I know plenty of black people with brown nails even close to purple nails... (why wasn't the brown nails on the autopsy?) MJ's nails been brown from childhood, i noticed it in a pic he was giving the peace sign he looks about 12. you are being quite critical
post them. If you have African American friends and the nail itself (not the skin under the nail) is brown...I would love to see it...then I would ask them if they smoke or have a disorder or take medicatation that colors the nail, because the nail plate itself has no color, unless some sort of medication or disease is causing it because there are no pigment cells.
Nail Root
The root of the fingernail is also known as the germinal matrix. This portion of the nail is actually beneath the skin behind the fingernail and extends several millimeters into the finger. The fingernail root produces most of the volume of the nail and the nail bed. This portion of the nail does not have any melanocytes, or melanin producing cells. The edge of the germinal matrix is seen as a white, crescent shaped structure called the lunula.

Nail Plate
The nail plate is the actual fingernail, made of translucent keratin. The pink appearance of the nail comes from the blood vessels underneath the nail. The underneath surface of the nail plate has grooves along the length of the nail that help anchor it to the nail bed.

Dr. Jennifer Shu says this about yellowish brown nails:
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A yellowish, brownish coloring of the nails may also be caused by diabetes, lung problems, arthritis, lupus, certain medications, lymphatic system disorders and liver disease. Not having enough vitamin B-12 can cause nails to turn dark, thin and possibly spoon shaped. Your doctor may want to perform some tests to check for nutrition problems or an illness.

 we know MJ had ... Lung problems, arthritis, lupus, and took many medications.

I'm not taking a picture of anybody's hands for you. did i say anything about yellow? it is not dire for me to prove this fact to you cause you think you know everything. and i had a fingernail that stayed bluish purple from childhood till i was about 25. from a childhood injury. add that to your list. perfectly healthy people can have nails with dark pigmentation
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 10, 2010, 11:43:13 PM
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Horrible photo, i will apologise..  but only one i have of MJs legs which show the vitiligo along with a horrible injury.   :D

Happy to help.  Ive asked on a different thread if anyone has any photos of MJs nail discolouration.. so if any guys can help me please go to my thread.   :D  here:  viewtopic.php?f=21&t=2937

If i find any more vitiligo posts i will post again..   8-)

This may be out of topic, but i keep looking, mostly, at his left foot (not the injured one...)! Except for the vitiligo, his ankles and feet are REALLY swollen (especially the left foot)! Could that be a result of a possible heart decease or arthritis???  Or maybe the result of a sprain?

Not enough water.  Can be any number of reasons, but I bet he was dehydrated.
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 11, 2010, 04:47:23 PM
I found a couple good pics of MJ's leg showing the vitaligo as well as the healed (or semi healed) spider bite.
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 12, 2010, 02:05:26 PM
I was very sad to see this.... I had Neurodermitis several years and i don't want that anyone saw it....i covered it so good i could....today all is oK, but i saw the area where the skin was open...it's darker pigmented.

I saw the pics from the spiderbit and thought that there must be forever a scar or something.

So i surch the autopsie report and found that on that leg was a ...i can't read all...a hyperpigmentation area...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/ye ... son19.html
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 12, 2010, 02:20:41 PM
Holy crap.. sorry but how big was that spider and what was it doing anywhere near Michael?!  :shock:
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 12, 2010, 05:22:35 PM
While searching for thoughts on this theme some noticed MJ sometimes had discoloration and sometimes not, indicating medication use or not. Some suggested aging might bring more discoloration but you can see here Katherine and Joe's nails are light. There may be a normal range of color for nails that may still be perfectly healthy, and we shouldn't just jump to conclusions that he was so unhealthy. ALWAYS he's gorgeous younger/older.
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 12, 2010, 09:16:13 PM
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Holy crap.. sorry but how big was that spider and what was it doing anywhere near Michael?!  :shock:
it was a brown recluse spider and this is what it does...her is another picture of a bite victim.
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 12, 2010, 09:22:22 PM
Those spider bite pics are making me want to spew..
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 12, 2010, 09:26:55 PM
Yes, it looks like when my mother was bit by a spider years ago. She went to the doctor several times for medication and the area around the bite kept getting larger. They finally got it under control but it was difficult. They also thought she was bit by a brown recluse.
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 12, 2010, 09:28:58 PM
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Those spider bite pics are making me want to spew..
:mrgreen: sorry...LOL...thats the color of your face right now...LOL....they are gross.  Poor MJ. :mrgreen:
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 12, 2010, 09:55:42 PM
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For all you skeptics, watch the scene in the Martin Bashire interview with Jackson in a Las Vegas hotel, talking about his first sexual experiences and Tatum Oneal. He puts his pink hand up to his white face but his fingernails are still brown! That is because you can’t get bleaching cream under your fingernails, you can see this in many other pictures on line too.


I think the whole Vitiligo explanation was devised by Jackson’s publicists and he is trapped in this tragic lie.

Wow!  I cant believe anyone would still question this...first, I want to say that African Americans do not have brown nails.  MJ's nails themselves have the brown pigment within them and this can only be caused by something he is ingesting that is being deposited in his nail root and growing out with his nail.  There are many types of medications that do this, some that treat Lupus...which MJ has.  I am including a picture of MJ, white with white nails, and MJ white with brown nails, so you can see this is something that happened after he became totally white.  I am also including a picture of an African Americans nails to show you that they are not brown.  African Americans, in my opinion, have the most lovely nails and nail beds.  I have noticed that many African Americans (like MJ) have long nail beds and very white half moons and beds.  This contrast with the brown of their skin, is so lovely.  MJ's nails are brown from discoloration.

As for the vitiligo and the reason why he had brown eye skin in those videos...because usually those are the last parts to become discolored...as you can see from this picture.

Mykidsmum,

Thanks for your post and setting the record straight.

However, I was shocked to notice on closer examination the shape and size of MJ's nailbeds.  When comparing them in particular to other pics of MJ  they don't match. On here (your posted pic) they are shorter/wider. I have seen multiple other pics where he has longer more rectangular nailbeds plus his nails have always been cut short. I find this odd....could that pic be of a double? One's nailbeds do not change shape over a lifetime unless traumatized and in this case every finger would have had to have incurred significant trauma. What do you think?????
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 12, 2010, 10:09:12 PM
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For all you skeptics, watch the scene in the Martin Bashire interview with Jackson in a Las Vegas hotel, talking about his first sexual experiences and Tatum Oneal. He puts his pink hand up to his white face but his fingernails are still brown! That is because you can’t get bleaching cream under your fingernails, you can see this in many other pictures on line too.


I think the whole Vitiligo explanation was devised by Jackson’s publicists and he is trapped in this tragic lie.

Wow!  I cant believe anyone would still question this...first, I want to say that African Americans do not have brown nails.  MJ's nails themselves have the brown pigment within them and this can only be caused by something he is ingesting that is being deposited in his nail root and growing out with his nail.  There are many types of medications that do this, some that treat Lupus...which MJ has.  I am including a picture of MJ, white with white nails, and MJ white with brown nails, so you can see this is something that happened after he became totally white.  I am also including a picture of an African Americans nails to show you that they are not brown.  African Americans, in my opinion, have the most lovely nails and nail beds.  I have noticed that many African Americans (like MJ) have long nail beds and very white half moons and beds.  This contrast with the brown of their skin, is so lovely.  MJ's nails are brown from discoloration.

As for the vitiligo and the reason why he had brown eye skin in those videos...because usually those are the last parts to become discolored...as you can see from this picture.

Mykidsmum,

Thanks for your post and setting the record straight.

However, I was shocked to notice on closer examination the shape and size of MJ's nailbeds.  When comparing them in particular to other pics of MJ  they don't match. On here (your posted pic) they are shorter/wider. I have seen multiple other pics where he has longer more rectangular nailbeds plus his nails have always been cut short. I find this odd....could that pic be of a double? One's nailbeds do not change shape over a lifetime unless traumatized and in this case every finger would have had to have incurred significant trauma. What do you think?????
as you age, your nails tend to dry out and don't hold a curve as well as in the younger days.  When I don't wear polish on my nails, they flatten out, become wider, because my hands are always in water and drying out...(ok, age too)  when I wear polish (mostly clear) it holds moisture in the nail and my nails stay rounded, curved, and look less wide and more narrower.  I need to use polish because the curve it keeps in my nail makes the nail stronger, if they flatten out, they tend to be flimsy and break easily.  His nail bed itself could look shorter because he wasn't taking care of his nails and was letting the cuticle grow up.  If you notice, in his younger years, he never had long nails or ragged cuticles like he did in later life... I don't buy the doubles theory.
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 13, 2010, 01:05:26 AM
Larry Kings interview with a Newsreader turning white due to vitiligo.

[youtube:2hg4dnah]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZGA9gEysHc&feature=related[/youtube:2hg4dnah]
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 13, 2010, 05:32:38 PM
Omg thats horrible. poor poor Michael... again.. WHY was that thing near Mike?!

Where are them spider like.. based  :lol:  Just America??  :?
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 13, 2010, 11:14:46 PM
they have them in California and I have heard 2 stories about how it happend...anyone feel free to add.  I heard that he brushed up against some brush near his house and got bit that way that his house was being fumigated and it was one that was being pushed out...and another story was that he was sleeping and one got in his bed and in his pajama leg...
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 14, 2010, 06:07:50 PM
I don't think it was a spider bite. Wasn't it the one where he had the IV leak into his leg?
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 14, 2010, 09:52:19 PM
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I don't think it was a spider bite. Wasn't it the one where he had the IV leak into his leg?
that story was told by that white haired dude, the same guy he called at 3 in the morning being afraid someone was out to get him...(deiter I think) this guy was pushed out of MJ's circle and I'm sure he said that to get revenge.  He said an IV needle broke off in MJ's leg when he tried to remove the IV...first...IV's no longer use a needle that stay in the skin.  A hollow needle is used to insert a catheter (it lies inside the hollow needle) and once it's inplace the needle is removed leaving the rubbery like catheter in place.  Even if it did break, how in the world would it do something like that?  I think the guy mentioned MJ was doing heroin, but don't quote me on that.  Second and most important, these photo's were taken by a Doctor and admitted to court and the Doctor actually corroborated MJ's story.
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Re: Vitiligo-Spots?

  • on: April 15, 2010, 01:10:56 PM
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I don't think it was a spider bite. Wasn't it the one where he had the IV leak into his leg?
that story was told by that white haired dude, the same guy he called at 3 in the morning being afraid someone was out to get him...(deiter I think) this guy was pushed out of MJ's circle and I'm sure he said that to get revenge.  He said an IV needle broke off in MJ's leg when he tried to remove the IV...first...IV's no longer use a needle that stay in the skin.  A hollow needle is used to insert a catheter (it lies inside the hollow needle) and once it's inplace the needle is removed leaving the rubbery like catheter in place.  Even if it did break, how in the world would it do something like that?  I think the guy mentioned MJ was doing heroin, but don't quote me on that.  Second and most important, these photo's were taken by a Doctor and admitted to court and the Doctor actually corroborated MJ's story.

And the effects of the bite also look very much like in the other photo you posted.
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