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WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 09:13:19 AM
OK...As we know MJ's own family never visits him @Forest Lawn. Which is strange of course. From that we can assume that Michael burried someplace else that only family knows.  BUT.....
Why we NEVER see people from rehearsals like dancers, Orianthi, KO visiting MJ in Forest Lawn???  They were the last people who were involved with him and close to him right before June25, working on TII rehearsals, and he was an idol for those dancers, for god's sake!!!! WTH is goling on??????????????????????
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 09:19:05 AM
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OK...As we know MJ's own family never visits him @Forest Lawn. Which is strange of course. From that we can assume that Michael burried someplace else.  BUT.....
Why we NEVER see people from rehearsals like dancers, Orianthi, KO visiting MJ in Forest Lawn???  They were the last people who were involved with him and close to him right before June25, working on TII rehearsals, and he was an idol for those dancers, for god's sake!!!! WTH is goling on??????????????????????


I don't really consider it suspect that the dancers, Orianthi, or KO don't visit.
I mean, I don't visit any of my deceased co-workers.
Maybe go to the funeral, but not visit afterwards.

Also, in the beginning, visitation was supposed to be off limits to everyone but family.
So even if they wanted to go, they wouldn't be permitted in to the immediate area where MJ is supposed to be.
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 09:26:06 AM
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OK...As we know MJ's own family never visits him @Forest Lawn. Which is strange of course. From that we can assume that Michael burried someplace else.  BUT.....
Why we NEVER see people from rehearsals like dancers, Orianthi, KO visiting MJ in Forest Lawn???  They were the last people who were involved with him and close to him right before June25, working on TII rehearsals, and he was an idol for those dancers, for god's sake!!!! WTH is goling on??????????????????????


I don't really consider it suspect that the dancers, Orianthi, or KO don't visit.
I mean, I don't visit any of my deceased co-workers.
Maybe go to the funeral, but not visit afterwards.

Also, in the beginning, visitation was supposed to be off limits to everyone but family.
So even if they wanted to go, they wouldn't be permitted in to the immediate area where MJ is supposed to be.

Sorry, but if dancers would like to visit MJ, I'm sure the Jacksons  would be OK with that, because the dancers were involved in Funeral and the family seemed to be nice to them. Unless AEG were in chanrge running all the show @ Funeral and Jacksons couldn't object to that.
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 09:36:42 AM
Well.. If Michael Jackson is alive, why go there then? And if you believe he is dead, then you shouldn't be here.
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 09:42:07 AM
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Well.. If Michael Jackson is alive, why go there then? And if you believe he is dead, then you shouldn't be here.

Don't tell me where I should or shouldn't be. Instead of blind believe of hoax try to find the truth, which it may be not what you are looking for!
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 09:48:13 AM
Well, I guess could be concluded from the 2 forest lawns every1z talking about...
but Did you know that there is a way they could have buried him in Neverland? aparently the could if they donate that area to the JW church! so if he passed he could be there, heck he could be there dead or alive!
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 10:00:11 AM
And BTW why Dave Dave didn't visit MJ @Forest Lawn?? He and Miko were on LKL show when they had funeral. Even Gotham Chopra wasn't there. And they still didn't visit him yet. Unless they go to someplace else that nobody knows.  Or maybe MJ was cremated and there is no reason to go to Forest Lawn because there is no body.  
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 10:05:14 AM
what started as a good thread - seems to be going down hill
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 10:17:24 AM
keep this respectful people or i will lock this
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 10:28:37 AM
Comeon guys, let us not fight ok. Let us all slow down a bit on this thread. I know what can help us. How about this? What evidence do we have that LEAD us to believe that MJ is buried somewhere else other than Glendale or was it the other one? In other words how about some of us posting what has gotten us to this point as far as the conflict of burial spots u know? Maybe we will catch something we overlooked right? We know MJ was not cremated right because of the embalmer info on the death certificate. Oh hell! Is the death certificate even valid. Yes, I said all this to say we do need to further investigate the burial spots, because you all are right there may not even be a BODY!
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 10:32:59 AM
Also remember when Jermaine did his second interview with Larry King ( with Larry King wife there?) and Larry asked Jermaine about the private service for the family. Jermaine just burst out laughing remember? Larry also asked Jermaine if Paris speech was staged remember? I was like WTF! Quick somebody upload that interview. THEN Larry asking JOe if he knew where MJ's body was? Comeone guys lets dig. I dont feel this is a wasted thread at all! :lol:
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 11:06:53 AM
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Also remember when Jermaine did his second interview with Larry King ( with Larry King wife there?) and Larry asked Jermaine about the private service for the family. Jermaine just burst out laughing remember? Larry also asked Jermaine if Paris speech was staged remember? I was like WTF! Quick somebody upload that interview. THEN Larry asking JOe if he knew where MJ's body was? Comeone guys lets dig. I dont feel this is a wasted thread at all! :lol:

Yes...But we cannot be sure if MJ is alive just because media say some strange things that making us to ask more questions. It could be done for ratings, all TV shows alive because of ratings, I know that because my friend is working on TV channel in europe, she is the director of marketing , she said they would do anything to bring higher ratings.
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 03:17:47 PM
Media said he is dead Michael always told us not to believe the media they always lie
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Michael knocking out the media one day at a time lool

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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 03:22:23 PM
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Media said he is dead Michael always told us not to believe the media they always lie

I'm sorry, but you obseesing too much the role of media because media do NOT always lie!
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 03:24:36 PM
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Media said he is dead Michael always told us not to believe the media they always lie

I'm sorry, but you obseesing too much the role of media because media do NOT always lie!

MAybe not lie but almost always twisting things :D
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 03:29:18 PM
Hmmmm Venus7, I see that you have recently joined and after the awful thread you posted the other morning (in which I was too slow to respond due to it being deleted) it seems that you like to create a lot of contoversy in an already controversial situation!  Makes me wonder who you really are and if you have any good intentions....
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 03:38:14 PM
I do not write this as an attack but I grow frustrated when reading threads such as this one.
Venus, I suggest that you have such strong doubts about whether Michael is alive perhaps reviewing ALL of the threads on this site. You ask why these people would not be visiting Michael's crypt, yet the crypt is empty so why would they. Most of these people are likely aware that Michael is alive. If you have followed all the information that has been gathered on this entire "Death Hoax" this would be apparent to you.

I do not know when you entered this investigation but I have been at this since June 27th and I have absolutely no doubt that Michael is ALIVE. I find many of your posts to be coming from a doubting perspective, as if you want someone to convince you otherwise. No one here can convince anyone of anything, you must do the investigating yourself. Even if that means going back to the beginning and looking at ALL the evidence  once again.

Threads such as this are not very conducive to a discussion when one's mind is not open to the possibilities and arguing with those who have researched extensively, from the beginning of all this, doesn't solve anything. Again, I suggest you go back and read it all, perhaps visit the MJKIT archives as well.
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 04:18:03 PM
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I do not write this as an attack but I grow frustrated when reading threads such as this one.
Venus, I suggest that you have such strong doubts about whether Michael is alive perhaps reviewing ALL of the threads on this site. You ask why these people would not be visiting Michael's crypt, yet the crypt is empty so why would they. Most of these people are likely aware that Michael is alive. If you have followed all the information that has been gathered on this entire "Death Hoax" this would be apparent to you.

I do not know when you entered this investigation but I have been at this since June 27th and I have absolutely no doubt that Michael is ALIVE. I find many of your posts to be coming from a doubting perspective, as if you want someone to convince you otherwise. No one here can convince anyone of anything, you must do the investigating yourself. Even if that means going back to the beginning and looking at ALL the evidence  once again.

Threads such as this are not very conducive to a discussion when one's mind is not open to the possibilities and arguing with those who have researched extensively, from the beginning of all this, doesn't solve anything. Again, I suggest you go back and read it all, perhaps visit the MJKIT archives as well.
Your post does come across as a personal attack. Unlike you, I do find Venus' post interesting, since I had not learned before that MJ's family supposedly hardly visit the grave site, which contributes to the possibility of him being alive.

Nobody can be for sure whether he is dead or alive, except for the people nearest to him. Many people just want to find the truth, even if that means it would be something they don't like. And sorry to say, but I have not seen any shred of "evidence" as you call it that he is alive (or dead, for that matter). What you call "evidence" are indications, inconsistencies, uncertainties and so on.
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 04:25:33 PM
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I do not write this as an attack but I grow frustrated when reading threads such as this one.
Venus, I suggest that you have such strong doubts about whether Michael is alive perhaps reviewing ALL of the threads on this site. You ask why these people would not be visiting Michael's crypt, yet the crypt is empty so why would they. Most of these people are likely aware that Michael is alive. If you have followed all the information that has been gathered on this entire "Death Hoax" this would be apparent to you.

I do not know when you entered this investigation but I have been at this since June 27th and I have absolutely no doubt that Michael is ALIVE. I find many of your posts to be coming from a doubting perspective, as if you want someone to convince you otherwise. No one here can convince anyone of anything, you must do the investigating yourself. Even if that means going back to the beginning and looking at ALL the evidence  once again.

Threads such as this are not very conducive to a discussion when one's mind is not open to the possibilities and arguing with those who have researched extensively, from the beginning of all this, doesn't solve anything. Again, I suggest you go back and read it all, perhaps visit the MJKIT archives as well.
Your post does come across as a personal attack. Unlike you, I do find Venus' post interesting, since I had not learned before that MJ's family supposedly hardly visit the grave site, which contributes to the possibility of him being alive.

Nobody can be for sure whether he is dead or alive, except for the people nearest to him. Many people just want to find the truth, even if that means it would be something they don't like. And sorry to say, but I have not seen any shred of "evidence" as you call it that he is alive (or dead, for that matter). What you call "evidence" are indications, inconsistencies, uncertainties and so on.

As I stated this was not an attack on this person so do not tell me my intentions. It is my way of speaking and you are as entitled to your opinion as am I. Actually, you are on my ignore list as of now. I really do not wish to speak with you, at all.  This is my last post to you! Goodbye
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 04:31:53 PM
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OK...As we know MJ's own family never visits him @Forest Lawn. Which is strange of course. From that we can assume that Michael burried someplace else.  BUT.....
Why we NEVER see people from rehearsals like dancers, Orianthi, KO visiting MJ in Forest Lawn???  They were the last people who were involved with him and close to him right before June25, working on TII rehearsals, and he was an idol for those dancers, for god's sake!!!! WTH is goling on??????????????????????


I don't really consider it suspect that the dancers, Orianthi, or KO don't visit.
I mean, I don't visit any of my deceased co-workers.
Maybe go to the funeral, but not visit afterwards.

Also, in the beginning, visitation was supposed to be off limits to everyone but family.
So even if they wanted to go, they wouldn't be permitted in to the immediate area where MJ is supposed to be.


 :lol:  :lol:  you made me laugh.... i don´t visit my deceased co-workers either.... but none of them is Michael Jackson!!!!!!!!! :lol:  :lol:

I think this is one of the things that keeps me thinking this is a hoax.... it is weird enough that the family shows no emotion..... but the dancers.... we saw them cry just to work with him.... they are obviously as fans as we are..... I just can´t explain why they are so calm.... they lost their idol, their dream.... did you watch extras in this is it??? it was going to be the best show ever!! and they were so close to be there.... they should be devastated....
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 04:48:12 PM
mjboogie quote :

"Larry asking JOe if he knew where MJ's body was? Comeone guys lets dig. I dont feel this is a wasted thread at all!"

Do you remember Joe's answer?

I don't know Larry, but I'll find out and I'll tell you . I can't understand how Larry didn't fall from the chair. Laughing of course.

This line goes for Oscar Prize  :lol:  :lol:  I'll never forget till I die.  :lol:

If I do remember well it was 2 weeks after June 25. Joe's answer is Godlike :lol:  :lol:
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 04:54:57 PM
Hi,
I am new here, and what I would like to say, is that I grew up with Michael Jackson music,  and I have mixed feelings at time.  I know in my heart that he is alive, no question asked, I have faith that he is. Sometimes I hear other negativity and I feel a doubt that he is dead. This is part of human nature. Obviously MJ is not dead his family will not go to FL., also his friends and co worker, neither Kenny Ortega. His name and year of birth nor the  year of death is engraved yet. He supposetly passed away 7 months actually going to 8 months. How does that explain?? How long does it take ??

Everything about MJ's death does not make any sense. BECAUSE HE IS ALIVE.

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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 05:04:39 PM
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Also remember when Jermaine did his second interview with Larry King ( with Larry King wife there?) and Larry asked Jermaine about the private service for the family. Jermaine just burst out laughing remember? Larry also asked Jermaine if Paris speech was staged remember? I was like WTF! Quick somebody upload that interview. THEN Larry asking JOe if he knew where MJ's body was? Comeone guys lets dig. I dont feel this is a wasted thread at all! :lol:
Yes...one can wonder why he asked Joe that question. There was a lot of controversy at the time where MJ's body was, maybe he hoped to get the answer from Joe. Or maybe he wanted to establish that Joe was left out of a lot of family descisions. Or for another reason..
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 05:15:50 PM
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OK...As we know MJ's own family never visits him @Forest Lawn. Which is strange of course. From that we can assume that Michael burried someplace else that only family knows.  BUT.....
Why we NEVER see people from rehearsals like dancers, Orianthi, KO visiting MJ in Forest Lawn???  They were the last people who were involved with him and close to him right before June25, working on TII rehearsals, and he was an idol for those dancers, for god's sake!!!! WTH is goling on??????????????????????



Well no body in the crypt :P Michael is alive :P
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Re: WHY??

  • on: February 16, 2010, 05:39:32 PM
I'll ignore any attacks at me, I don't to waste my energy on that.

Anyway...I just looked up Craig Harvey tweeter(http://http://twitter.com/Chiefcoronerla), and I noticed that he follows 3 people one of which is Scott Michaels and on his twitter(http://twitter.com/DeathHag) he has  web link that called  http://www.dearlydepartedtours.com/DDT/index.html   which it seems like tour agency in LA, and on that website on top written: "From the man who ran LA's notorious GRAVE LINE TOURS  who is also creator of http://www.findadeath.com" .
When you go to this last site  http://www.findadeath.com/  there is "directory"  of dead people, and MJ's name is missing. And why Craig Harvey following Scott Michaels?  Not sure if is anything significant
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