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UCLA pic taken on 06/24/09!
February 14, 2010, 08:54:00 AM
Last days I´ve been working on the UCLA pics that I posted on the stretcher thread.
But now I have just realized one thing that have petrified me.

I can´t show it to you here, so to see what I found you have to do what follow:
Go to this pic and save it in your computer:



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Ok, then go to the windows explorer and open the folder.
Choose to see "Details" view mode.
Make shure that "Image taken date" (can´t see if this is so in English Windows) is displayed.
And tell me what date was it taken...

06/24/09 20:00

I just cannot understand this!!!

It happens the same wih this one:



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Re: UCLA pic taken on 06/24/09!
February 14, 2010, 08:56:38 AM
Could be fixed.. Little sceptic to 20.00.. It should be 8PM and it's quite late.
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Re: UCLA pic taken on 06/24/09!
February 14, 2010, 08:57:57 AM
This is what i see when I go to see details :
Quote
Micheal Jackson
arriving by ambulance at the UCLA Medical Center, after suffering a fatal heart attack at the age of 50.
Los Angeles, California - 25.06.09
***no TMZ, no Access Hollywood, no Extra, no Inside Edition, no Entertainment Tonight.  Available for t
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Re: UCLA pic taken on 06/24/09!
February 14, 2010, 08:58:24 AM
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Could be fixed.. Little sceptic to 20.00.. It should be 8PM and it's quite late.

What for? To create confussion?
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Re: UCLA pic taken on 06/24/09!
February 14, 2010, 09:01:22 AM
Sabrina, I did not realize that.

And says Author: HTA/ZOJ

Description:

Micheal Jackson
arriving by ambulance at the UCLA Medical Center, after suffering a fatal heart attack at the age of 50.
Los Angeles, California - 25.06.09
***no TMZ, no Access Hollywood, no Extra, no Inside Edition, no Entertainment Tonight.  Available for the rest of the world***
Credit: (Mandatory): WENN.com

What is weird is that the metadata date that can be modified is precisely 25.06.09 00:00:00
I´m openning it with Adobe Bridge and I cannot modify the 06/24/2009 date...
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Re: UCLA pic taken on 06/24/09!
February 14, 2010, 09:06:41 AM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Sabrina, I did not realize that.

And says Author: HTA/ZOJ

It's OK :)
Maybe it's from an agency but I ouldn't find the adress I don't know what does it means
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Re: UCLA pic taken on 06/24/09!
February 14, 2010, 09:07:54 AM
Quote from: "Sabrina"
This is what i see when I go to see details :
Quote
Micheal Jackson
arriving by ambulance at the UCLA Medical Center, after suffering a fatal heart attack at the age of 50.
Los Angeles, California - 25.06.09
***no TMZ, no Access Hollywood, no Extra, no Inside Edition, no Entertainment Tonight.  Available for t

I see the same thing at noted here (***no TMZ, etc)...interesting.  I don't see the date of the 24th but if that is true then Kenny and them are lying about when he was at rehearsals.
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Re: UCLA pic taken on 06/24/09!
February 14, 2010, 09:15:17 AM
This is what I see on Advanced Metadata:

Quote
xmp:CreateDate: 2009-06-25T00:00:00Z
xmp:creatortool: Adobe Photoshop Cs2 Windows
xmp:ModifyDate: 2009-06-24T20:00:00+02:00

Metadata have been modified on 06/24/09 20:00
(Not taken at this hour)

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Re: UCLA pic taken on 06/24/09!
February 14, 2010, 09:29:10 AM
Here's what I got. :)

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Re: UCLA pic taken on 06/24/09!
February 14, 2010, 09:35:29 AM
Yes, that´s what I mean.
And looking further on metadata, says that the creation date (not the shot date) has been modified at 20:00 06/24/09...

This is what I see with Bridge:


I´m surfing You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login now and find a catalogue of weird things.
One of them is news saying MJ needed a lung transplant.
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It´s full of rumors...
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And more weird... they don´t have this pic published, that I can see...
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Re: UCLA pic taken on 06/24/09!
February 14, 2010, 09:54:38 AM
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
Could be fixed.. Little sceptic to 20.00.. It should be 8PM and it's quite late.

Can you modify that date?
I´m not able...
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Re: UCLA pic taken on 06/24/09!
February 14, 2010, 09:57:28 AM
I got this using exif reader

Filename : paramedic.jpg
JFIF_APP1 : Exif
JFIF_APP1 : http
Main Information
Software : Adobe Photoshop CS2 Windows
Copyright : WENN.com
ExifInfoOffset : 2208
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Unknown (EA1C)7,2060 : 2060 Bytes
Sub Information
DateTimeOriginal : 2009:06:24 20:00:00
UserComment : Micheal Jackson
arriving by ambulance at the UCLA Medical Center, after suffering a fatal heart attack at the age of 50.
Los Angeles, California - 25.06.09
***no TMZ, no Access Hollywood, no Extra, no Inside Edition, no Entertainment Tonight.  Available for the rest of the world***
Credit: (Mandatory): WENN.com
Unknown (EA1C)7,2060 : 2060 Bytes
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Re: UCLA pic taken on 06/24/09!
February 14, 2010, 10:13:01 AM
I had a picture of taylor swift i ran through heres what it gave me notice the date is 2008:06:04 20:00:00
 and the time is the same as the ambulance pic not sure what it means? Is the time maybe not set correctly? It says wenn too
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JFIF_APP14 : Photoshop 3.0
JFIF_APP1 : http
AdobeResource
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Unknown (1061) : 16Byte
IPTC
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Title : cma celeb closeup 060608
Emergency degree : 2
Taking a picture day : 20080605
Taking a picture time : 000000+0000
Photographer : JE1
Photographer's title : JE1
CountryName : USA
Photograph number : wenn1904854
Subtitle : cma celeb closeup 060608
Credit : Judy Eddy / WENN
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Copyright Info : Judy Eddy / WENN
Caption : Taylor Swift
at the GAC Presents CMA Celebrity Close Up event at the Ryman Auditorium
Nashville, Tennessee - 05.06.08
Credit: (Mandatory): Judy Eddy / WENN
Caption manufacturer : jf
Main Information
Copyright : Judy Eddy / WENN
Sub Information
DateTimeOriginal : 2008:06:04 20:00:00
UserComment : Taylor Swift
at the GAC Presents CMA Celebrity Close Up event at the Ryman Auditorium
Nashville, Tennessee - 05.06.08
Credit: (Mandatory): Judy Eddy / WENN
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Re: UCLA pic taken on 06/24/09!
February 14, 2010, 10:16:57 AM
here is a different taylor swift taken by wenn it is a different day from the one i uploaded before DateTimeOriginal : 2008:05:16 20:00:00 still has the same time as different taylor swift pic and the same time as michael ambulance pic??  what do you think about this

Filename : taylor_swift_1871882.jpg
JFIF_APP1 : Exif
JFIF_APP2 : ICC Profile (offset:5485 size:3151bytes)
JFIF_APP14 : Photoshop 3.0
JFIF_APP1 : http
AdobeResource
IPTC-NAA : 206Byte
Unknown (1061) : 16Byte
IPTC
Record version : 0002
Title : play for a cause 180508
Taking a picture day : 20080517
Taking a picture time : 000000+0000
Photographer : JE1
Photographer's title : JE1
CountryName : USA
Photograph number : wenn1871882
Subtitle : play for a cause 180508
Credit : Judy Eddy / WENN
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Copyright Info : Judy Eddy / WENN
Caption manufacturer : ja
Main Information
Copyright : Judy Eddy / WENN
Sub Information
DateTimeOriginal : 2008:05:16 20:00:00
UserComment : Taylor Swift
Academy of Country Music Charitable Fund’s New Artists’ Party for a Cause at MGM Grand Hotel Casino
Las Vegas, Nevada - 17.05.08
Credit: (Mandatory): Judy Eddy / WENN
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Re: UCLA pic taken on 06/24/09!
February 14, 2010, 10:22:11 AM
That may be the metadata template creation date... nothing to do with the pic.

Here you have the complete xmp file from the UCLA pic:
(See that here the metadata template creation date is also from 2008, but nothing to do with the photo)

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