THISISALSOIT has a NEW redirect!! page 13 of the autopsy!?

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Offline futurelaker88

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what does this mean? thisisalsoit.com now takes us to "thesmokinggun.com" and to an article showing page 13 of the autopsy report! I've read the report and i cannot figure out which part is significant. Does anyone get what the purpose of this is? its been a while since theres been a new redirect so i assume this is a HUGE clue in the report!! WHAT IS IT?!?!?! Im posting the redirect link below! come on people...do your thing! lol ;)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/ye ... son23.html
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Well.... this is weird.... I would like that someone who know this kind of documents tell us if this is the usual way of writting it...

The only thing I find interesting is the 09/09/09....
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take a look at this topic :

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5024&start=50

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Well, just a guess but I'd say something on page 13 is the smoking gun that the autopsey is fake.

eta: or just that study wants to point out the 9/9/09 coincidence.
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i still dont get it. i looked at the post (which is yesterday correct?) where STUDY says there will be a 9/9/09 post in March. but what does that mean? im behind with the numbers i guess lol. and does this mean he said this yesterday expecting it next month and it came early??
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"The majority of the decedent was covered with white multiple towels/sheets, leaving only the hands and top of the head exposed."

so how could they be sure it was Michael?

^maybe that's what TIAI is referring to...
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Coroner Chief of Operations Craig Harvey...?

Haven't we seen or heard his name before?
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omg this is exciting!!! :D  :D  im sure one of us can find wat it is!!!! im gonna examine it rlyyyy carefully looking...
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....wait...can someone pls tell me wat was going on with the whole embalming thing again? i read somewhere on this forum that the family ddnt want the body 2 be embalmed? or something? :? and it was embalmed later or not embalmed or.. :? i cant rememberr!! but can someone plzz remind me!! i mite have found something...!! but dnt get ur hopes up anyone its probably VERY stupid :oops: k imma go do more research and come back
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who was the "male companion"?
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And again it says on the top right "Michael Jackson"

haven't they have to use his full name on such a report like this?
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I think all the things you guys pointed out are things that TS wants you to see. I would think with something like this, everyone present would have to be identified so this "male companion" sounds suspicious to me. I am going to guess and say the companion was a disguised MJ. :) And the date seems really significant. I can't wait to read his update on 9/9/09 unless this redirect is the update.
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I just can't even figure why TIAI doesn't load for me since last year... :cry: I just knnow redirectionsbeacause of this forum, so I want to know if this redirect is really genuine...
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The date 09/09/09 is what stood out to me too. But other than that I didnt see anything that just jumped out at me. Im not a very good investegavtive reporter LOL. MJ we love you, we support you, we are waiting for you to show yourself. Waiting with open arms.
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Two previous autopsies and they didn't get hair samples before?  And what was he doing in the lobby?  And does a yellow casket mean gold?
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Quote from: "still beLIEve"
Well.... this is weird.... I would like that someone who know this kind of documents tell us if this is the usual way of writting it...

The only thing I find interesting is the 09/09/09....

In an answer to your question.  Yes this is how the report normally reads.  I work in a pathology lab and hospital doing exactally this, examining the human body and dictating what i see, so i make reports like this everyday.   Each person has their own style I guess so they do vary a bit, there isn't a set way really.  I will hopefully get to reading the rest of the pages today see if anything else about it looks odd or if they did or didn't do many of the standard protocols.
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in legal documents dont they need the names of ALL PPL PRESENT? "male companion?" and why was "the decedents" face covered? his hands too?? i thought latoya said he was buried with gloves?
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I get it
Propofol leaves the body to quick
you cant find it in bloodwork
you have to have a hair
you can find drugs people are on or what killed them through a hair strand.
Theres no way they waited till august 6,or the 9th to get a hair sample
By this date of aug 24 they had already released that he died from propofol
theres no way they could have known propofol was in his system unles they did a hair sampleat the first autopsy.  
Remeber the story was Michael was in a freezer not in a casket
he would have decomposed if he had been in his casket from july 7th to august 6th.
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Quote from: "mirandacnc"
in legal documents dont they need the names of ALL PPL PRESENT? "male companion?" and why was "the decedents" face covered? his hands too?? i thought latoya said he was buried with gloves?


No, his Hands were not covered...but the rest of the body....What If they used another body and just put him a wig on to make it look like Michaels Body...
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I get it
Propofol leaves the body to quick
you cant find it in bloodwork
you have to have a hair
you can find drugs people are on or what killed them through a hair strand.
Theres no way they waited till august 6,or the 9th to get a hair sample
By this date of aug 6th they had already released that he died from propofol
theres no way they could have known propofol was in his system unles they did a hair sampleat the first autopsy.  
Remeber the story was Michael was in a freezer not in a casket
he would have decomposed if he had been in his casket from july 7th to august 6th.


Yeah! right!   Quiz solved :D
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sorry i ment face and hands uncovered :oops:
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who was the "male companion"?
im sooo sure is latoya's assistant...the chubby guy thats always with her...i mean i think they thought it was insignificant to put his name on there
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I looked at the dates since I'm really into numerology and the first date added up to 50 which I though was funny so I also added 5+0=5 and the second date 9-9-2009=47 4+7=11 1+1=2  than added 5+2=7.  We have another 7!!!
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this is what I questioned.... is it normal procedure to be collecting hair samples this late in the evening?  Did media ever report Latoya seen at Forest Lawn on Aug 6th as this report indicates she was present?
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"The majority of the decedent was covered with white multiple towels/sheets, leaving only the hands and top of the head exposed."

so how could they be sure it was Michael?

^maybe that's what TIAI is referring to...


Wasn't Michael buried in one of his outfits? I thought there was a charge for that posted somewhere. Why would the family bury him in his outfit if he's only going to be covered in sheets? Just wondering...
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who was the "male companion"?
im sooo sure is latoya's assistant...the chubby guy thats always with her...i mean i think they thought it was insignificant to put his name on there

What's interesting is that LaToya has claimed that she was so weak from hearing the news that she had to pull over and she begged strangers to drive her to the hospital. Why would she do this if she had her assistant there to drive? Yesterday I saw the video of them in the car arriving at the hospital and wondered the same thing. Maybe I don't have my timeline correct?
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Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
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who was the "male companion"?
im sooo sure is latoya's assistant...the chubby guy thats always with her...i mean i think they thought it was insignificant to put his name on there

What's interesting is that LaToya has claimed that she was so weak from hearing the news that she had to pull over and she begged strangers to drive her to the hospital. Why would she do this if she had her assistant there to drive? Yesterday I saw the video of them in the car arriving at the hospital and wondered the same thing. Maybe I don't have my timeline correct?


latoya was indeed photgraphed arriving at the hospital behind her wheel with a guy sitting next to her, some say it might have been randy, otherwise it was probably the 'chubby guy'. so she wasn't even by herself as she said and obviously was able to drive herself, too.
i guess the autopsy took place the next day (first dated 07-26-09), so that's not really odd to me.
what's really odd: the report states that 'dr.' murray had pulled 'the patient' from the bed on to the floor to perform cpr, although in the 911-call the caller said that he was on the bed and was instructed to get him on the floor. so, did murray move him back on the bed before he called someone to call 911?

still confused...
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I am now really going insane, don't bash me pls...  :lol:

What if the "so called decedent" was just somebody - a third party person or whoever - and if the male company of La Toya was Michael giving permission to rob some of his hairs from under the wig which was - of course - in place for which ever reason of having a proof afterwards?

Strange interpretation?
When you come the other way round (not from our perspective of seekers but of that perspective of provider) and you have to write a story, what would you do?

Remember you sitting in the classroom and the teacher asks you to write down a story.
Thumb in the mouth and you try hard to remember something to write down, right?
Which means the first part is you have a picture of something on your mind and then your imagination starts to work around it, you get an initial starting point and then you start writing it down from there.

Why not describe a scene you already know?
Remember MJ stayed for hours with his dear friend James Brown.
And he stayed with the funeral agency to ask all kind of questions about what is being done with dead bodies, how they are being embalmed etc.
So Michael knew what happens when a death occurs.

Therefore I believe that Michael was absolutely capable of setting up a storybook like the one we are witnessing. And therefore I think it is possible that he set up the key structure of the documents we are being presented.

Just all my vivid speculation.
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Quote from: "jennyruby"
I get it
Propofol leaves the body to quick
you cant find it in bloodwork
you have to have a hair
you can find drugs people are on or what killed them through a hair strand.
Theres no way they waited till august 6,or the 9th to get a hair sample
By this date of aug 24 they had already released that he died from propofol
theres no way they could have known propofol was in his system unles they did a hair sampleat the first autopsy.  
Remeber the story was Michael was in a freezer not in a casket
he would have decomposed if he had been in his casket from july 7th to august 6th.


This very much convinces me!!! (I already was convinced! LOL)
I like your thinking, Jennyruby!  :D
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I looked at the dates since I'm really into numerology and the first date added up to 50 which I though was funny so I also added 5+0=5 and the second date 9-9-2009=47 4+7=11 1+1=2  than added 5+2=7.  We have another 7!!!
You can calculate 7 out of almost any series of numbers that way.
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http://http://uk.eonline.com/uberblog/b138048_no_third_autopsy_sliced_diced_jackson.html

i was looking what latoya was doing on 6 aug 09, if she maybe was in another country.
i didnt find that yet but already found this article of 6 aug 09
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Quote from: "me2"
http://http://uk.eonline.com/uberblog/b138048_no_third_autopsy_sliced_diced_jackson.html

i was looking what latoya was doing on 6 aug 09, if she maybe was in another country.
i didnt find that yet but already found this article of 6 aug 09


well, the report was 'finalized' on sept. 09, 2009, which could mean it took that long to finish the sample tests and all. i believe i saw several different dates throughout the report, depending on who did what.
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At the bottom it says the criminologist is named "Jaime Lintemoot"

In French.. "J'aime" means "i love you" and this is where the spelling of this name comes from.  I used to have a friend called "Jaime" and she told me this.  xx
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@tabloidburn
I was thinking te same thing about the resusistation maybe nothing was working while he was performing CPR on the floor so he decided to move him to the bed and perform CPR which I wouldn't understand why?
Sorry guys still very confused :?
I would like to say thnx to those who have shown me possibilites and reasons why the redirect would be autopsy page 13 you guys rock!!! :D
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I looked at the dates since I'm really into numerology and the first date added up to 50 which I though was funny so I also added 5+0=5 and the second date 9-9-2009=47 4+7=11 1+1=2  than added 5+2=7.  We have another 7!!!
You can calculate 7 out of almost any series of numbers that way.

Actually, that's not the case, I've tested it. I don't believe in numerology, but I do believe the number 7 was important to Michael, particularily 3 7s or 777.
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I was thinking te same thing about the resusistation maybe nothing was working while he was performing CPR on the floor so he decided to move him to the bed and perform CPR which I wouldn't understand why?
Sorry guys still very confused :?
I would like to say thnx to those who have shown me possibilites and reasons why the redirect would be autopsy page 13 you guys rock!!! :D


only reason i can imagine that since murray is such a big guy, he was putting too much weight on him on the floor, that's why so many ribs were broken, i guess and the autopsy pointed out that he had a big pressure mark on his chest. i just thought of that. murray is huge, he's like 6 feet tall and weighs over 200 pounds, imagine him putting all his weight on michael's chest (weighing half as much and being 5'9'') on a hard surface...or rather: on the guy who passed the autopsy, who was 5'11''...  ;)  still, murray is a giant compared to any of them.
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in regard to the significance of this page...could it have something to do with the number 13??

there are quite a few numbers  on this page.....and there are alot of ways to come up with the number 13..i'll see if i can show some, but not all, as is gets really confusing to write it out, but believe me there are many "13's" within these numbers.

The first one.......page.....13....duh.....

The case number in top right corner........2009-04415
start with 2009......9-0-0-2=   7           04415 ......5+1+4-4=6           7+6=    13!

you can also get one this way..........
2+0+0+9=  11          0+4+4+1+5=   14           11+14=  25
                              0+4+4-1+5+    12                                               25-12=    13!

the first statement:  (1) investigating agency
                                (3) investigating officers ..........................obviously  13

the first date.....Aug. 6 2009             6+ (9-0-0-2= 7) =                                    13!

1300 hours                                        13 +0+0=                                                13!


there are ways to figure 13's from all the "time" numbers in the middle, but that gets confusing to write out so i will skip down first to the Evidence collection complete date and the sealed date.

complete date......Aug. 6,2009......1920 hours
                               
                                  9-0-0-2= 7  -6 = 1             1920 (hours)   wait....

sealed date........Aug. 6,2009.......1950 hours

                                 (same as above, same date)     1950 hours

                                                                       1950-1920=  30

                                         1 (same date so same #)      + 3+0........................13!

there' more.......

at the bottom....date written    8/13/09

8+13= 21                        0+9=9.....................21+9=30
          2-1=1                                                               3+0= 3.........................13!

date finalized........9-9-09
9+9+0+0=  27                                                                                          
                                                                                                           
                2+7= 9                                                                                 -
                7-2= 5                     9+5=  14                                               27- 14=.....13!


I have no idea if this is worth anything...and if it is what's the significance of the #13....we've heard  much about the 7 (which are in here too, but not as much as the 13, from what i could figure out)

so, anybody with more knowledge of the numbers thing have any input??????

I could just be reaching here...........
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Just throwing this out there, don't know if it's of any help. The number 13 is associated with rebellion and apostacy in bible numerics.  Students of the scriptures associate 13  to be representative of the  lord of darkness and his works.   I guess that this is where popular culture of today got the idea about 13 being unlucky and stuff like Friday the 13th ect.
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actually, when you look at the page index of smoking gun, it is page 23 of the document but section 13 of the autopsy report. also, the smoking gun version has less pages than the one published by tmz (23 vs. 51 pages).
what i find really odd: i cannot find that same page of the redirect when i browse through section 13 of the tmz version.  :shock: ?
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Just thought of this......the number 13.....

June 13, 2005.........Michael's "victory" day....

He succeeded and justice was served.....not guilty

Maybe something on this page of the report is the "smoking gun" to guarantee  his victory again and once again justice will be served....

May the truth prevail......

Mike...you are a genius!
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Quote from: "tabloidburn"
actually, when you look at the page index of smoking gun, it is page 23 of the document but section 13 of the autopsy report. also, the smoking gun version has less pages than the one published by tmz (23 vs. 51 pages).
what i find really odd: i cannot find that same page of the redirect when i browse through section 13 of the tmz version.  :shock: ?
:shock:  :roll:  :?
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