What wll make you stop believing?

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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 03, 2010, 10:57:06 PM
i will never stop beLIEving.
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 03, 2010, 11:26:40 PM
I don't know. I'd like to say I'll never stop believing. Change is my biggest fear. Or maybe it's more the loss aspect of change. I'm afraid to lose my belief in this. I just pray he comes back someday, so we're not 90 years old at some nursing home sitting on the computer investigating this...Or worse 90 years old at some nursing home devestated because we've accepted he's dead. Or even worse 90 years old at some nursing home with Alzheimers and can't remember who MJ is... :?
I need to sleep. :lol:
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 04, 2010, 12:17:30 AM
#1, when the family comes out and say, they feel ashamed of or disrespeced by michaels fans that are believing he is alive. them saying this directly to us would mean a lot to me.
 
      #2, of course is if mr. murray goes to jail, and im not talking about for a child support case either.

i believe with all my heart that michael is alive, but something is not right, what if im wrong or somone is playing a very sick joke on us. but my dreams, that ive been having since late april, early may, and heart tells me otherwise. but what if... i just cannot bring myself to saying it, because it makes me physically ill, but what if he is no longer, someone needs to give us answers, we are michael's army of L.O.V.E., not his enemies. like our precious prince said, we have been here for michael no matter what, and i will be here for as long as it takes as long as one of these things two things dont happen. well these are my feelings, thanx to all my mj fam. AND THANK YOU MICHAEL, I LOVE YOU, AND I WILL BE HERE.
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 04, 2010, 12:29:14 AM
U know, I was thinking that if Murray goes to jail I will stop believing that MJ is alive. But that doctor is so shady, some people even say that its not his real name etc. And this stuff with him being arrested going on..... Im just soooo positive on my thoughts that MJ will come back. I dont know if anything can convince me now to stop believing! :D
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 04, 2010, 01:29:22 AM
I really have no Idea. Maybe the Day Joe Jackson shed's a tear, Then I'll start to worry. But I'm almost positive that won't happen any time soon... ;)
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 04, 2010, 01:41:57 AM
I will never stop believing too many unanswered questions.  I  will stop believing when I die and go to heaven to be with Jesus.  I love MJ too much to ever trying to find out what happened to him.  The whole Murray case in the press seems so wrong too me.  I am tried of the press lying to the fans and hurting us.  MJ is a precious angel send from heaven.  MJ, we all love you more than words could ever express.  You leave all your fans Speechless! ;)
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 04, 2010, 02:21:12 AM
I will stop believe the day I see his dead body, and his REAL dead body that is. But that will never happen.
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 04, 2010, 12:53:24 PM
I will stop believing when I die and I see Michael :P Or on the day when he REALLY dies.
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 04, 2010, 01:04:46 PM
I was thinking about this the other day when I was trying to explain why I believe Michael is alive and why I can't let go. I said: "Seeing it. Seeing his dead body." And all of a sudden I realized that it's basically too late. They've left no traces. They buried him without ever showing him to us, they buried him anonymously, they made sure we'll never see. It's like having lost someone in a plane accident and his corpse never being found. Do you think these people will ever let go? I don't. The death of a loved one is something that you have to see to believe. Period.

So, unless they have footage of the autopsy or real photographic evidence, nothing will help me let go, nothing will make me stop believing, even though I have terrible doubts every now and then. But I can't let my Michael go if I don't even know for sure he's dead. Never ever.  :cry:
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 04, 2010, 01:15:51 PM
Erm for me it would have to be when/if Murray goes to jail or when the Jackson family personally address us hoax believers to tell us that he has indeed passed.

But until that day comes I'm still a beLIEver
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 04, 2010, 01:21:37 PM
I believe in God so much.
I believe in good souls.
Michael is a good soul, so i truly believe in him.
And i believe, that as long as the Earth needs him more than the Heaven, God will not take him away.
And we need him. More.
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 04, 2010, 02:54:32 PM
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I was thinking about this the other day when I was trying to explain why I believe Michael is alive and why I can't let go. I said: "Seeing it. Seeing his dead body." And all of a sudden I realized that it's basically too late. They've left no traces. They buried him without ever showing him to us, they buried him anonymously, they made sure we'll never see. It's like having lost someone in a plane accident and his corpse never being found. Do you think these people will ever let go? I don't. The death of a loved one is something that you have to see to believe. Period.

So, unless they have footage of the autopsy or real photographic evidence, nothing will help me let go, nothing will make me stop believing, even though I have terrible doubts every now and then. But I can't let my Michael go if I don't even know for sure he's dead. Never ever.  :cry:
You know, you are so right ! I too feel that they have taken something from us,because we never got a real chance to say goodbye. That is, if he is really dead. But on the other hand, I dont think he will ever comeback anyway..... Its very frustrating :(
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 04, 2010, 06:46:06 PM
The Jacksons are well and truly aware that this forum exists, along with all the other MJ sites on the net.  IF Michael is dead, they owe it to all of us to put us out of our misery and come out and say quite clearly with no riddles, that our beloved Michael is dead.  And then show us some proof.

IFMicahel is dead then the Jacksons are perpetuating this hoax in their insane greed for more and more fame and money (Not until June 25th did a lot of people know half of them).  They bitterly resented Michael for breaking with the band and going solo.  They knew he was the talent of the family.  Without him they were zilch.  Now, this is their big moment of glory, grabbing back some of the fame they felt was meant for them that they lost, because Michael outshone them all.

IF they are witholding from us, it will be brought about by bitterness and greed, and yes, maybe vengeance.  And IF it's true, then Michael was right all along... they are parasites.  It's not his money they want this time... it's ours.

Sorry guys... reading about this theory on some of the posts here made me so angry to think it could be true.
It's the Murray thing.  Will they won't they etc etc  Doing my head in  :(
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 04, 2010, 07:35:01 PM
Nothing will change my mind.  My eyes are wide open.  Michael IS Alive!  Period.. :mrgreen:
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 04, 2010, 10:33:44 PM
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Nothing will change my mind.  My eyes are wide open.  Michael IS Alive!  Period.. :mrgreen:

Same here :mrgreen:
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 04, 2010, 11:27:30 PM
I will always believe. There are too many inconsistencies to not believe that he is alive.
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 05, 2010, 02:21:35 AM
For me, there are some times when I feel like Michael is never going to come back, dead or alive.
But there come some times when I truly think he is alive! I feel it in my gut!
I will never stop believing in Michael. Never. Neber Eber.  :)
The only thing that could separate me from Michael is if God came down himself, slapped me across the face, and told me to SNAP OUT OF IT!  :lol:
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 05, 2010, 04:35:43 AM
loma, wow, sometimes i feel the same way too! But also, there are times when i have terrible doubts as well. Let me admit, from the begining of November, i'm really not sure if he's alive. But i still can't give up. My instincts say he's alive. More than the proofs, i follow my instincts at the moment. That's why it sometimes gets really hard, you know i feel like am i acting like a retard?? But hey, i didn't see a body, i saw two different funerals, i didn't see Paris's tear, i saw the mask man at the halloween theme park and i did see dave dave. I just can't believe he's gone.

The day i'll believe he's really dead will be when the family directly in simple words tells us to let it go cause Michael died, and if i feel they're not lying. If i see the kids crying real tears i will quit.
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 05, 2010, 04:58:05 AM
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loma, wow, sometimes i feel the same way too! But also, there are times when i have terrible doubts as well. Let me admit, from the begining of November, i'm really not sure if he's alive. But i still can't give up. My instincts say he's alive. More than the proofs, i follow my instincts at the moment. That's why it sometimes gets really hard, you know i feel like am i acting like a retard?? But hey, i didn't see a body, i saw two different funerals, i didn't see Paris's tear, i saw the mask man at the halloween theme park and i did see dave dave. I just can't believe he's gone.

The day i'll believe he's really dead will be when the family directly in simple words tells us to let it go cause Michael died, and if i feel they're not lying. If i see the kids crying real tears i will quit.

I get called a retard all the time!  :?  I don't know why the Jacksons don't just come out and hint harder! Even on twitter or something!
I agree with some of the people on here, saying that they only want their 15 seconds of fame, but this is too much. They're keeping us from the troot, and it's not fair. They KNOW Mike was against the media, and so were his real fans. It's time they address us REAL fans and tell us.

EDIT: Even if he is alive yet gone, don't stop caring about him. He had an extraordinary life, and he deserves this privacy!  :) If he decides to come back, that's just great!
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 05, 2010, 05:19:48 AM
I will always believe. I know in my heart he is alive. I'm not afraid of what happens to Murray, we will never know what happened from him till Michael says to tell.
As Molly says I hope something happens before I am 90 and I still know who Michael Jackson is!  :lol:
I am always here for you Michael. We are ALL here for you.
We LOVE YOU!! ;)
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 05, 2010, 06:23:34 AM
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The Jacksons are well and truly aware that this forum exists, along with all the other MJ sites on the net.  IF Michael is dead, they owe it to all of us to put us out of our misery and come out and say quite clearly with no riddles, that our beloved Michael is dead.  And then show us some proof.

IFMicahel is dead then the Jacksons are perpetuating this hoax in their insane greed for more and more fame and money (Not until June 25th did a lot of people know half of them).  They bitterly resented Michael for breaking with the band and going solo.  They knew he was the talent of the family.  Without him they were zilch.  Now, this is their big moment of glory, grabbing back some of the fame they felt was meant for them that they lost, because Michael outshone them all.

IF they are witholding from us, it will be brought about by bitterness and greed, and yes, maybe vengeance.  And IF it's true, then Michael was right all along... they are parasites.  It's not his money they want this time... it's ours.

Sorry guys... reading about this theory on some of the posts here made me so angry to think it could be true.
It's the Murray thing.  Will they won't they etc etc  Doing my head in  :(

*underlines everything you wrote* You are 100% right, this is what I'm feeling all the time, but usually people just bash you for talking bad about Michael's family. Wow, as if being his family made them SAINTS? They do owe something to us. I said from the very beginning, if Michael is NOT alive, they seem to want us to believe he is. Cause some speculation, keep people interested.
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 05, 2010, 06:47:52 AM
Nothin' and noone can make me stop believing that he's alive,i've seen a lot of clues since june 25 to be absolutely sure that he's ALIVE, if you asked me the same question a couple of months ago, i would say that when Murray is jailed it will mean that Mike is dead, but now i have learned enough not to loose my belief cause of such things, even if Murray is jailed for a short period of time(and i'm sure if he is jailed it would be for a very short time), i will always know that it's a part of agreement between him and Mike,it's a part of hoax.So i will always believe no matter what, i have always believed in Mike, i have always put my trust in him and he never let me down,i'm sure that this time too he will not,keep the faith :D
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 05, 2010, 07:28:21 AM
Probably, the only things that would really make me worry would be, either leaked autopsy photos (that are real/confirmed by the coroner) or when the Jackson family comes out and says something to the effect of the hoax theories being hurtful/etc...

However, if there's anything the recent 7 months have taught me, it's that there's nothing the Jacksons couldn't fake.
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 05, 2010, 12:26:07 PM
I'm new to this forum, but I wanted to comment on the Doc. Murray thing...


I don't think that him going to jail means that Michael is for sure dead. And I'm shocked that a lot of you do, considering you've been BeLIEvers much longer than I have. To me, from what I've read and seen on hoax forums and videos.... it wouldn't be beyond belief that Doc. Murray could be put in jail (or at least by our perception), just to continue on with the hoax.

Think about it; many MJ fans believe Doc. Murray is responsible for MJ's death. The fans get madder and madder each day that Murray is NOT convicted, or at least brought up on charges. This is something that HAS to be pursued. IDK what you guys think, but the MAJORITY of MJ fans are NOT BeLIEvers. The majority of fans have an emotional barrier up. Won't listen to tales of Illuminati, or faked deaths, because it's too confusing, scary, and painful, and they're already hurting. On one of the boards I'm on, fans post about being sad and crying every day, and it's been over seven months.

I still cry, myself. I think he may be alive somewhere, but his life story in general is just so sad, and things are just so unfair... it hurts me.

So, it's my opinion that they HAVE to pursue charging Doc. Murray, and they may even go as far as to throw him in jail. Remember, everything isn't as it seems... just because he's arrested, thrown in jail, etc... that doesn't mean it's NOT a hoax. That just means that they're going the distance.

NOTHING else about MJ's death makes sense. NOTHING. And NOBODY'S stories are the same, nothing connects. He was sick, he wasn't, he was in perfect health, he was too frail to do 50 shows, he died in his room, Murray's room, Prince saw him, Prince didn't see him, Prince was called into the room to witness Dr. Murray try to revive Michael... that's just the accounts of the days leading up to the 25th, alone. NONE of it matches, or makes sense, and no one has sense cleared it up.

And it bothers me that NO ONE will dismiss the hoax death rumors. There are no official statements. And a lot of "double talk."

I believed MJ was dead for upwards of seven months, and recently, things just started to bother me. Like the Grammy Memorial thing, with NO MENTION of MJ. Also TMZ. And Prince's "your fan- the fans" slip. That made me say "wait a minute... let me see what those BeLIEvers have been talking about..."

Things are just TOO weird... and I don't think you guys should give up over Doc. Murray going to jail.

MJ isn't stupid. If he was going to do this, he'd have already realized that this might happen. And for Murray, with MJ fans being as crazy as they are, he's probably better off in jail. It's better than ending up dead. And you know some crazy MJ fan would....
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Re: What wll make you stop believing?

  • on: February 05, 2010, 01:11:47 PM
I will never stop believing that something is up with this whole thing, but i might change my opinion of what exactly happened if someone tells the ruth about what exactly happened and was able to convince me ! Alive or not things just dont add up!
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