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Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 02, 2010, 07:32:08 AM
Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

Sep 17th, 2009 | By Vigilant | Category: Vigilant Reports
Source: http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2153


Beyonce’s “Sweet Dreams” video is viewed by most people as being merely  “sexy” or “fashion” but not many get its occult meaning. Hidden in the symbolism of the video and in the song’s lyrics are references to dark themes: possession and mind control.



If you read my other article on Beyonce called “Beyonce to Sasha Fierce – Occult Symbolic Rebirth“, you’ll already be aware of the dark symbolism surrounding Sasha Fierce. “Sweet Dreams” is a perfect continuation of the dark themes surrounding Beyonce’s alter-ego: dark occultism, mind control, spirit possession, etc. The lyrics of the song and the imagery of the video have a supernatural and ethereal quality, as Beyonce professes her love to someone or something she calls a “sweet dream or a beautiful nightmare”. Here’s the video.

[youtube:dxu7ped5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uowJTyct_bc[/youtube:dxu7ped5]


Essential Information

So what is this song about? Love? Yes. Love of her mind controlled state and of her controller. Pretty disturbing. What is mind control? It is a technique developed by the CIA to literally control a subject’s mind (google MK Ultra for more info). “Monarch Programming” uses extreme treatments (such as electroshock) to cause a major trauma in the victims psyche. Ron Patton describes the main precepts of “Monarch Programming” here:

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Definition and Description

“The name MONARCH is not necessarily defined within the context of royal nobility, but rather refers to the monarch butterfly. When a person is undergoing trauma induced by electroshock, a feeling of light-headedness is evidenced; as if one is floating or fluttering like a butterfly. There is also a symbolic representation pertaining to the transformation or metamorphosis of this beautiful insect: from a caterpillar to a cocoon (dormancy, inactivity ), to a butterfly (new creation) which will return to its point of origin. Such is the migratory pattern that makes this species unique. Occultic symbolism may give additional insight into the true meaning. Psyche is the word for both “soul” and “butterfly” coming from the belief that human souls become butterflies while searching for a new reincarnation. Some ancient mystical groups, such as the Gnostics, saw the butterfly as a symbol of corrupt flesh. The “Angel of Death” (remember Mengele?) in Gnostic art works was portrayed crushing the butterfly. A marionette is a puppet that is attached to strings and is controlled by the puppet master, hence MONARCH programming is also referred to as the “Marionette Syndrome.” “Imperial Conditioning” is another term used, while some mental health therapists know it as “Conditioned Stimulus Response Sequences.” Project MONARCH could be best described as a form of structured dissociation and occultic integration, carried out in order to compartmentalize the mind into multiple personalities within a systematic framework. During this process, a Satanic ritual, usually including Cabalistic mysticism, is performed with the purpose of attaching a particular demon or group of demons to the corresponding alter(s). Of course, most skeptics would view this as simply a means to enhance trauma within the victim,  negating any irrational belief that demonic possession actually occurs.”

Alters and Triggers

Another way of examining this convoluted victimization of body and soul is by looking at it as a complex computer program: A file (alter) is created through trauma, repetition and reinforcement. In order to activate (trigger) the file, a specific access code or password (cue or command) is required. The victim/survivor is called a “slave” by the  programmer/handler, who in turn is perceived as “master” or “god.” About 75% are female, since they possess a higher tolerance for pain and tend to dissociate easier than males. Subjects are used mainly for cover operations, prostitution and pornography; involvement in the entertainment industry is notable.  A former military officer connected to the DIA, told this writer, “In the ‘big picture’ these people [MONARCH victims] are in all walks of life, from the bum on the street to the white-collar guy”. In corroboration, a retired CIA agent vaguely discussed the use of such personnel to be used as “plants” or “chameleons” for the purpose of infiltrating a designated group, gathering information and/or injecting an ulterior agenda. There are an inordinate amount of alters in the victim/survivor with numerous back-up programs, mirrors and shadows. A division of light-side (good) and dark-side (bad) alters are interwoven in the mind and rotate on an axis. One of the main internal structures, (of which their are many) within the system is shaped like a double-helix, consisting of seven levels. Each system has an internal programmer which oversees the “gatekeeper” (demons?) who grant or deny entry into the different rooms. A few of the internal images predominately seen by victims/survivors are trees, the Cabalistic “Tree of Life,” with adjoining root systems, infinity loops, ancient symbols and letters, spider webs, mirrors or glass shattering, masks, castles, mazes, demons/monsters/aliens, sea shells, butterflies, snakes, ribbons, bows, flowers, hour glasses, clocks, robots, chain-of-command diagrams and/or schematics of computer circuitry boards. Source: http://www.whale.to/b/patton.html


MK Ultra Victim (1961)

OK, this heavy stuff but there are some important points to note which are directly related to “Sweet Dreams”:

    1. Monarch treatment gives a feeling of “light-headeness, as if one is floating”
    2. It engenders a new creation, an alternate personality
    3. The victim sees his controller as “god”
    4. Dark occult rituals are involved in the process
    5. Symbols relating to Monarch programming involve mirrors, glass shattering, rainbows, robots and more.

I’m guessing that you’re starting to see where I’m going with this. All of these things are represented in Beyonce’s 4 minute video. How much can one honestly attribute to coincidence? The truth is: “Sweet Dreams” is a metaphor for mind control, Monarch Programming to be precise, and Beyonce sings from the point of view of the programmed slave.  


Song Analysis

“Every night I rush to my bed With hopes that maybe I’ll get a chance to see you When I close my eyes I’m going out of my head Lost in a fairytale, can you hold my hands and be my guide?”
Beyonce is looking forward to “going out of her head” and getting “lost in a fairytale“. She is asking her controller to “hold her hand and be her guide“. The state of a mind controlled slave is often compared to a fairytale (they are said to be shown movies such as The Wizard of Oz). The controller will be her guide in the treatments.

“Clouds filled with stars cover the skies And I hope it rains, you’re the perfect lullaby What kinda dream is this?”
There is a real sense of a hazy state of mind. Beyonce says to her controller, who is causing in her this mental state, “you’re the perfect lullaby”.

“You could be a sweet dream or a beautiful nightmare Either way I don’t wanna wake up from you (Turn the lights on) Sweet dream or a beautiful nightmare Somebody pinch me, your love’s too good to be true (Turn the lights on)”
So this state of mind control can be a sweet dream, which is a blissful state where the boundaries between reality and fiction are blurred. It can also be a nightmare due to the traumatizing treatments, the mental anguish and the fact that being a Monarch slave is probably the worst thing that can happen to anyone.  Sweet dream/Beautiful Nightmare also describes the dichotomy between Beyonce and her dark alter-ego Sasha Fierce. As Patton stated in his discussion of mind control:

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“A division of light-side (good) and dark-side (bad) alters are interwoven in the mind and rotate on an axis.” -Ibid.

“My guilty pleasure, I ain’t going no where Baby long as you’re here I’ll be floating on air”
“My guilty pleasure” refers to the fact that she knows that this state of synthetic bliss is false and ultimately harmful to her. But as long as her controller is there, she’ll be “floating on air”. This is especially significant when one knows that subjects of Monarch programming get a feeling of light-headeness, as if they’re floating.

“I mention you when I say my prayers I wrap you around all of my thoughts Boy you’re my temporary high”
There is here a mix of the “scientific” mind programming with the occult ritualistic aspect of it. The “controller” is often interchanged with Lucifer and “mind control” can be interchanged with spirit possession. As Ron Patton stated, ancient occult knowledge, rituals and magick are incorporated in the programming of the subject. The person sees the controller as a god, or Lucifer, who possesses his/her soul and thoughts. Beyonce says she mentions the name of her controller (or Lucifer) when she says her prayers.  She wraps her controller around all of her thoughts which is a nice way of saying that the possessor is in control of her thoughts.

“Tattoo your name across my heart so it will remain Not even death can make us part What kind of dream is this?”
She is basically saying that she gave her soul to her controller aka Lucifer. “Not even death can make us part“, conveys an obvious spiritual meaning. The only thing that remains of us after death is our soul. She says that even after death, her soul will still be owned by her possessor. As in all works of art, the lyrics could be interpreted in numerous ways. The video however confirms the mind control theme of the song by visually representing the steps, the symbols and even many “triggers” associated with Monarch programming.


Video Analysis

So what is the message of the video? Yes, I know Beyonce is “hawt”. Now that we got that out of the way, we can look past her hawtness…There’s way more to that video than hypnotic robot breasts. The video starts with Beyonce sleeping to a creepy lullaby tune. A dove appears and levitates Beyonce from her bed while the lullaby gets increasingly menacing. This scene ends with a scream of terror.



In Christian symbolism, the dove represents the Holy Spirit. There’s however nothing “holy” about that scene. The scene is dark, the music is ominous, Beyonce is troubled and she gets lifted in what looks like a feat of black magick. To find the true meaning of that dove, one has to go into its occult meaning.

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“Helena Blavatsky, an occultist, Luciferian, magician, Mason, and founder of the Theosophical Society, along with Masonic author Albert Pike, in their writings of this belief, that Lucifer is the holy spirit. Pike, referred to the Holy Ghost, when he wrote, “the body of the Holy Spirit, the universal Agent, [is] the Serpent…”

he Holy Spirit of Occult Orders, the liaison between the earth realm and the heavens, is Lucifer. This is graphically represented on the lamen of the Luciferian fraternity Ordo Templi Orientis.


Lamen of the O.T.O. Upside dove = Fall of Lucifer?

So in the first scene of the video, we see Lucifer lifting Beyonce from her bed and sending her to a kind of weird heaven. As stated above, the song is at the same time about Lucifer and Beyonce’s mind controller. So the dove also represents the controller making Beyonce feel light-headed from Monarch programming. Beyonce is sent into an “alternate world” with an omnipresent rainbow, a symbol associated with Monarch programming. We often see in the video multiple Beyonce’s colliding into one or the opposite, which represent her alters or minions. If you look closely at the backup dancers in one particular scene, they are literally broken in half, as if they are not activated.


Notice the rainbow, the importance of the light source (Lucifer = god of Light)…And is this a pale horse running in the background?

In this symbolic scene, Beyonce is in a mirror room, not knowing who the “real Beyonce” is. This scene refers to the dissociative nature of mind control, not to mention that mirrors are an all-important symbol of Monarch Programming.


Mirror reflections symbolism

She then shatters a mirror and fragments fly all over the place, which represents the fragmentation and compartmentalization of her consciousness, an important prerequisite in order to create a new alternate personality in Monarch programming. Then it happens. The shiny new robot Beyonce, the new programmed alternate personality is born.


New controlled Beyonce trying in vain to get back the fragments of her consciousness

What is a robot? It is a machine that is programmed to accomplish specific tasks. This description also applies to a mind-controlled slave. So the video describes the steps of mind control and the metamorphosis of the worm into a Monarch butterfly.


In Conclusion

Beyonce’s “Sweet Dreams” describes the blissful journey of a mind control subject towards its new persona. Even if that process is insanely painful and nightmarish, the subject is programmed to enjoy it, hence the phrase “either way, I don’t want to wake up from you“. Numerous symbols and mind control triggers are included in the video and, combined with the dissociative lyrics, the song leaves no doubt to those “in the know” of its occult meaning. Why are there allusions to Lucifer and mind control in the video and many others? What’s the purpose of it? Is it supposed to have an effect on the viewers? Are these types of videos megarituals acting on the subconscious of music fans? Are they preparing (programming) the new generation to accept those things as a reality? Those are questions I’m still attempting to answer. One thing is for sure: when one realizes that Beyonce’s incredible beauty and talent are used to promote such horrors, the video becomes indeed a “beautiful nightmare”.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 02, 2010, 07:47:46 AM
Thanks for posting this Souza!
I watched a video about this hidden meaning just last night...There is always something to learn  :?
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 02, 2010, 10:15:49 PM
thank you thank you thank you

Also note that in the sweet dreams video by marilyn manson and eurithmic sweet dreams video they have similar themes

http://www.youtube.com/user/theindustryexposed he has some of the best videos out about these songs and videos
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 03, 2010, 12:08:48 PM
First lady gaga then beyone ... what comes next?? Britney spears?? Look at her Circus Album... maybe you will find some clues !!!!!!1 maybe she is the illuminati??

guys.. i think you lost the plot
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 03, 2010, 12:10:27 PM
wait .. maybe peter pan belongs to the illuminati too???? -.-
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 03, 2010, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: "mjiloveu"
First lady gaga then beyone ... what comes next?? Britney spears?? Look at her Circus Album... maybe you will find some clues !!!!!!1 maybe she is the illuminati??

guys.. i think you lost the plot


These artists are definately Mind Control victims, the signs are out there. And yes, Britney as well. Stop ridiculing what's right in front of your face and go read some stuff.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 03, 2010, 12:12:50 PM
Quote from: "mjiloveu"
wait .. maybe peter pan belongs to the illuminati too???? -.-


Actualy, there is a Mind Control program that uses Disney as triggers, yes.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 03, 2010, 12:33:59 PM
Seeing a Hand of Glory (severed left hand) will induct people into Peter Pan programming. (Books describing the occult use of the Hand of Glory in Ireland go back to 1830. It is an ancient practice. Baring Gould’s book Curious Myths of the Middle Ages describes the recipe for using the hand of glory as a gruesome lantern during the witchcraft of the Middle Ages.)

Capt’n or Cap’n (captain) represents the programmer in Peter Pan programming. Tinkerbelle is a young alter created under Peter Pan programming.

Alien programming by NWO (also involves Peter Pan programming)

“RIDE THE LIGHT” -Peter Pan programming meaning to go into hypnotic induction attached to a light that is seen when given a high voltage shock. This is given to make experiences seem like they occur in another dimension.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

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HMM, IF DISNEY MOVIES HAVE MIND CONTROL TRIGGERS IN THEM..WHO EXACTLY ARE THEY DIRECTING IT AT? i DONT GET THAT.. omg sorry about the caps :oops:
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

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Quote from: "ejay"
HMM, IF DISNEY MOVIES HAVE MIND CONTROL TRIGGERS IN THEM..WHO EXACTLY ARE THEY DIRECTING IT AT? i DONT GET THAT.. omg sorry about the caps :oops:
Children. They try to program you as early as possible. It's easier to program young, vulnerable minds.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

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Have anyone been following American Idol, i was watching it and as it was going to commercial and i was talking to my daughter and this big eye in the clouds came up on the screen, i was like WTH? I mean it's beginning to be all over the place and so right out in the open, but why not most people don't believe in these theories anyway and the elite knows it, that's why they do it!
So sad!
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 03, 2010, 08:44:01 PM
Quote from: "mollyfaithxo"
Quote from: "ejay"
HMM, IF DISNEY MOVIES HAVE MIND CONTROL TRIGGERS IN THEM..WHO EXACTLY ARE THEY DIRECTING IT AT? i DONT GET THAT.. omg sorry about the caps :oops:
Children. They try to program you as early as possible. It's easier to program young, vulnerable minds.


well thank god I got no disney movies.  :)
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

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Quote from: "~Souza~"
Seeing a Hand of Glory (severed left hand) will induct people into Peter Pan programming. (Books describing the occult use of the Hand of Glory in Ireland go back to 1830. It is an ancient practice. Baring Gould’s book Curious Myths of the Middle Ages describes the recipe for using the hand of glory as a gruesome lantern during the witchcraft of the Middle Ages.)

Capt’n or Cap’n (captain) represents the programmer in Peter Pan programming. Tinkerbelle is a young alter created under Peter Pan programming.

Alien programming by NWO (also involves Peter Pan programming)

“RIDE THE LIGHT” -Peter Pan programming meaning to go into hypnotic induction attached to a light that is seen when given a high voltage shock. This is given to make experiences seem like they occur in another dimension.
where do you find out which programs do what? and do they do certain programing for certain alters or gender?
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 03, 2010, 09:52:01 PM
Quote from: "ejay"
Quote from: "mollyfaithxo"
Quote from: "ejay"
HMM, IF DISNEY MOVIES HAVE MIND CONTROL TRIGGERS IN THEM..WHO EXACTLY ARE THEY DIRECTING IT AT? i DONT GET THAT.. omg sorry about the caps :oops:
Children. They try to program you as early as possible. It's easier to program young, vulnerable minds.


well thank god I got no disney movies.  :)
I do- I was raised on them! And to be honest I still like them.. can they actually harm ordinary people just watching them? I mean my family does too and they're fine..
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

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Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Quote from: "ejay"
Quote from: "mollyfaithxo"
Quote from: "ejay"
HMM, IF DISNEY MOVIES HAVE MIND CONTROL TRIGGERS IN THEM..WHO EXACTLY ARE THEY DIRECTING IT AT? i DONT GET THAT.. omg sorry about the caps :oops:
Children. They try to program you as early as possible. It's easier to program young, vulnerable minds.


well thank god I got no disney movies.  :)
I do- I was raised on them! And to be honest I still like them.. can they actually harm ordinary people just watching them? I mean my family does too and they're fine..
I don't know...I was raised on them too. Most kids are. But at least we know.
If you're aware of the subliminal mind control things happening in a movie, can it still affect you?
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

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Quote from: "mollyfaithxo"
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Quote from: "ejay"
Quote from: "mollyfaithxo"
Quote from: "ejay"
HMM, IF DISNEY MOVIES HAVE MIND CONTROL TRIGGERS IN THEM..WHO EXACTLY ARE THEY DIRECTING IT AT? i DONT GET THAT.. omg sorry about the caps :oops:
Children. They try to program you as early as possible. It's easier to program young, vulnerable minds.


well thank god I got no disney movies.  :)
I do- I was raised on them! And to be honest I still like them.. can they actually harm ordinary people just watching them? I mean my family does too and they're fine..
I don't know...I was raised on them too. Most kids are. But at least we know.
If you're aware of the subliminal mind control things happening in a movie, can it still affect you?

Oh i remember watching a ton of disney as a kid and im okay :lol:  I just dont own any now. Im guessing if this is true it must just be used for the flakes they trying to control.lol
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

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Oh i remember watching a ton of disney as a kid and im okay :lol:  I just dont own any now. Im guessing if this is true it must just be used for the flakes they trying to control.lol

IMO girls who act/think they are "princesses" is a form of mind control or like an alter. the whole pagent thing and girls who are over 10 and still call themselves "princess" and wear tiarras and act in that "prissy" way. IDK I just alway found that weird, esp to want to only be a princess and not a queen...lol  or for boys who group up and want to be "soliders" or "policeman" basicly someone of authority with a gun..toys,movies,cartoons ect influence people more than they think and i think things like that are smaller cased of mind control and/or alters being programmed in your mind
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

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Some one please tell me what has do to Mansonery with Lucifer, pls.... ? :lol:  :lol:  and I need REAL FACTS...such a SOMEONE HAVING FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE of being a member, for example.

This is becoming pretty ignorant.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

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But now all I can do is hope and pray that you'll come to me
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial

"Denial is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence."
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

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Quote from: "*Mo*"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial

"Denial is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence."

Funny you're posting this on the Michael Jackson HOAX DEATH forum.

Sorry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOL
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 04, 2010, 08:45:53 AM
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Some one please tell me what has do to Mansonery with Lucifer, pls.... ? :lol:  :lol:  and I need REAL FACTS...such a SOMEONE HAVING FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE of being a member, for example.

This is becoming pretty ignorant.


They are called  freemasonry. I know little about it. 666. Here's a link about the freemasonry  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry
 Just google freenasonry.  There's alot of info about them. Also, I found out that Jay-Z is a freemasonry. And so is Beyonce. I think she is trying to break away. Click on blog. Souza and Mo have a lot info about Illuminati and mind control. It's very helpful
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 04, 2010, 08:52:08 AM
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Quote from: "*Mo*"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial

"Denial is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence."

Funny you're posting this on the Michael Jackson HOAX DEATH forum.

Sorry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOL

Show me evidence that Mike is dead then.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

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Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Bee Bee"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial

"Denial is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence."

Funny you're posting this on the Michael Jackson HOAX DEATH forum.

Sorry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOL

Show me evidence that Mike is dead then.

I don't even believe he is dead. But that's not the point. You just have to see which claim is the most extraorinary. I have to admit that if I didn't care about Michael, I'd probably believe he's dead. This has a huge lot to do with wishful thinking. I think it's possible he is alive, and I hope he is. So, that's how I continue living. I want proof, too, because otherwise, I find myself unable to let go. But I wouldn't bet my ass on him being alive, I have to say that.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 04, 2010, 09:20:32 AM
Thank you Souza for your covering post on this subject - and all other posts concerning this. It's a very tough subject to study. And it's easy to tell you've put a lot of hard work into this! I appreciate it!
All the pieces we gather will eventually puzzle up.
People should not redicule these theories. They did not come out of no where!
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 04, 2010, 09:23:13 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial

"Denial is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence."

Funny you're posting this on the Michael Jackson HOAX DEATH forum.

Sorry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOL

Show me evidence that Mike is dead then.

I don't even believe he is dead. But that's not the point. You just have to see which claim is the most extraorinary. I have to admit that if I didn't care about Michael, I'd probably believe he's dead. This has a huge lot to do with wishful thinking. I think it's possible he is alive, and I hope he is. So, that's how I continue living. I want proof, too, because otherwise, I find myself unable to let go. But I wouldn't bet my ass on him being alive, I have to say that.

Oh I would, without any hesitation.  

Regarding extraordinary claims: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.  And that's the last thing I will say about this.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 04, 2010, 09:40:44 AM
I comment it on twitter as well, is not denial, is to know to which theory to apply the concepts of freemansons etc.

As a theory, is not valid to me.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 04, 2010, 09:46:06 AM
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Some one please tell me what has do to Mansonery with Lucifer, pls.... ? :lol:  :lol:  and I need REAL FACTS...such a SOMEONE HAVING FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE of being a member, for example.

This is becoming pretty ignorant.


They are called  freemasonry. I know little about it. 666. Here's a link about the freemasonry  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry
 Just google freenasonry.  There's alot of info about them. Also, I found out that Jay-Z is a freemasonry. And so is Beyonce. I think she is trying to break away. Click on blog. Souza and Mo have a lot info about Illuminati and mind control. It's very helpful

That article is a wiki-info, and I do not believe all I read ;)

Free mansons, are "normal" dudes, people like you and me....nothing of devil wordshipping...believe me.....

And yes, Mo and Souza have made their research ( very well exposed btw ) about the subject from a non constructive critical point of view, but does not mean that is the real reason for MJ death hoax nor the reason for people to wake up...
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 04, 2010, 09:52:09 AM
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Quote from: "Gema"
Some one please tell me what has do to Mansonery with Lucifer, pls.... ? :lol:  :lol:  and I need REAL FACTS...such a SOMEONE HAVING FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE of being a member, for example.

This is becoming pretty ignorant.


They are called  freemasonry. I know little about it. 666. Here's a link about the freemasonry  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry
 Just google freenasonry.  There's alot of info about them. Also, I found out that Jay-Z is a freemasonry. And so is Beyonce. I think she is trying to break away. Click on blog. Souza and Mo have a lot info about Illuminati and mind control. It's very helpful

That article is a wiki-info, and I do not believe all I read ;)

Free mansons, are "normal" dudes, people like you and me....nothing of devil wordshipping...believe me.....

And yes, Mo and Souza have made their research ( very well exposed btw ) about the subject from a non constructive critical point of view, but does not mean that is the real reason for MJ death hoax nor the reason for people to wake up...

The Freemasons are a SECRET society - therefore you cannot get other info than what you find yourself. They do not let people know what they are really doing or about the rituals etc. Read all about it - and then  make up your mind.
You should try to look up Leo Zegami - he is an outbreaker and he can tell a lot of stuff from the ''inside'' of these secret societies.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 04, 2010, 10:42:49 AM
I made up my mind years ago about it....

Still, I am interested in reading that man´s experience. Do you have a direct link to his notes?
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 04, 2010, 11:26:07 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
I made up my mind years ago about it....

Still, I am interested in reading that man´s experience. Do you have a direct link to his notes?

Sure! He made a lot of videos : http://www.youtube.com/user/leozagami1

And also has a website and blogs: http://www.leozagami.com/confessions/

http://leozagami.blogspot.com/     http://www.leozagami.com/


A few do think he's fake but again.. Watch his vids, read his blogs and judge for yourself.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 04, 2010, 12:14:23 PM
Quote from: "TinkerbellStardust"
Thank you Souza for your covering post on this subject - and all other posts concerning this. It's a very tough subject to study. And it's easy to tell you've put a lot of hard work into this! I appreciate it!
All the pieces we gather will eventually puzzle up.
People should not redicule these theories. They did not come out of no where!
I agree with you. I feel that MJ is trying to open our eyes to a lot of things we didn't know what is going on. We have to continue to research.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 04, 2010, 03:18:15 PM
Oh yes I've read that and it's very interesting ... it is so sad to see people who can't face the truth and try to ridiculized us  , saying we are ignorant

IM SOOO SORRY that your stupid IDOL/GOD  Bee or whoever else is part of all This ={, nO she doesn't give a damn about you people ,  she/they are aware of what is going on and they don't try to help you ...
TRUTH really hurts .... aww .... -_-

And yeah they (in the music industry) are all part of it ... you can't  become successful if you  don't work with them ..

so yeah Gaga , Bee , Britney  , Jay z ..
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 04, 2010, 04:45:03 PM
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Some one please tell me what has do to Mansonery with Lucifer, pls.... ? :lol:  :lol:  and I need REAL FACTS...such a SOMEONE HAVING FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE of being a member, for example.

This is becoming pretty ignorant.
What about rosanne barr and cathy o'brien who have spoken about being under mindcontrol? Those are first hand experiances
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 04, 2010, 04:48:54 PM
Thanks TinkerbellStardust.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 04, 2010, 09:36:23 PM
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The Freemasons are a SECRET society - therefore you cannot get other info than what you find yourself. They do not let people know what they are really doing or about the rituals etc. Read all about it - and then  make up your mind.
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There are alot of "whistler blowers" that have spoken about things they have seen/know also if you know or have read about cabalah and the dates and ancient holidays you can see when/where/why the rituals are being done. of course everyone doesnt know everything but there are things that are out there
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 04, 2010, 10:29:07 PM
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Quote from: "*Mo*"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial

"Denial is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence."

Funny you're posting this on the Michael Jackson HOAX DEATH forum.

Sorry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOL

Show me evidence that Mike is dead then.

I don't even believe he is dead. But that's not the point. You just have to see which claim is the most extraorinary. I have to admit that if I didn't care about Michael, I'd probably believe he's dead. This has a huge lot to do with wishful thinking. I think it's possible he is alive, and I hope he is. So, that's how I continue living. I want proof, too, because otherwise, I find myself unable to let go. But I wouldn't bet my ass on him being alive, I have to say that.

Oh I would, without any hesitation.  

Regarding extraordinary claims: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.  And that's the last thing I will say about this.
Off-topic, I know, but I just wanted to say that I would, too. The things I see about his death are what's not real to me now, not the hoax.

About the Freemasons- is it devil/occult/evil worship in disguise?
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 05, 2010, 11:59:41 AM
Devil does not exist if one puts it out of the religion philosophy.

Freemansons are not devil people  :evil:
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 05, 2010, 12:29:21 PM
Oh, come on, guys, are you serious?

Knowing the facts of life pretty well I don`t know anyone who gravely believes in these paranoid theories ....
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 05, 2010, 02:09:40 PM
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Oh, come on, guys, are you serious?

Knowing the facts of life pretty well I don`t know anyone who gravely believes in these paranoid theories ....


Oh, I know a lot.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 05, 2010, 03:44:34 PM
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Oh, come on, guys, are you serious?

Knowing the facts of life pretty well I don`t know anyone who gravely believes in these paranoid theories ....


Oh, I know a lot.


Poor thing  ;)
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 05, 2010, 04:20:02 PM
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Oh, come on, guys, are you serious?

Knowing the facts of life pretty well I don`t know anyone who gravely believes in these paranoid theories ....


Oh, I know a lot.


Poor thing  ;)


Who? Me? No not at all. I rather have my eyes open and be able to discuss stuff like this, that to just follow everything the newsreporter is giving me.  ;)
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 05, 2010, 05:42:30 PM
The song "Sweet Dreams" was written and produced by:
Beyonce Knowles, James Scheffer, Wayne Wilkins, and Rico Love.
5 people, not just Beyonce, funny you left that part out.

She didn't write the entire video.
It was directed by Adria Petty (the director normaly helps in writing of the videos)
and
"Portions of the "Sweet Dreams" music video were inspired by a video in which British designer Gareth Pugh presented his autumn/winter 2009 show"
Parts where inspired from this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C_LMYdKzWY
Gareth Pugh  is an English fashion designer, is he controled by the illuminati too?

Are all theese people being controled by the illuminati?
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 05, 2010, 07:17:58 PM
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The song "Sweet Dreams" was written and produced by:
Beyonce Knowles, James Scheffer, Wayne Wilkins, and Rico Love.
5 people, not just Beyonce, funny you left that part out.

She didn't write the entire video.
It was directed by Adria Petty (the director normaly helps in writing of the videos)
and
"Portions of the "Sweet Dreams" music video were inspired by a video in which British designer Gareth Pugh presented his autumn/winter 2009 show"
Parts where inspired from this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C_LMYdKzWY
Gareth Pugh  is an English fashion designer, is he controled by the illuminati too?

Are all theese people being controled by the illuminati?

The artist and the record company have the final say, they have the most influence.
Also, the Illuminati is not only involved in the Music Industry, but in many many more industries. It's not something small, it's huge.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 05, 2010, 07:24:27 PM
What about the other Four who wrote the song, are they being controled?
You failed to research thoughs people and state weither or not they show signs of being controled by the illuminati.
As well as the English Fashion designer.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

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What about the other Four who wrote the song, are they being controled?
You failed to research thoughs people and state weither or not they show signs of being controled by the illuminati.
As well as the English Fashion designer.

Who told you he isn't a puppet or an illuminati/freem. also ? I haven't done any research on him so I can't tell you ....but it's not because he is a designer that he is all "innocent"
and for the people who co wrote the song , they are part of the music industry ....
Again i hav'nt done any researches on them ... there are more Important things too look into imo
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 05, 2010, 09:19:16 PM
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What about the other Four who wrote the song, are they being controled?
You failed to research thoughs people and state weither or not they show signs of being controled by the illuminati.
As well as the English Fashion designer.

Who told you he isn't a puppet or an illuminati/freem. also ? I haven't done any research on him so I can't tell you ....but it's not because he is a designer that he is all "innocent"
and for the people who co wrote the song , they are part of the music industry ....
Again i hav'nt done any researches on them ... there are more Important things too look into imo
I was trying to point  out the fact that, they say Beyonce is a victom of mind control because of this song.
They failed to point out the facts that this song was written by FIVE people, not just Beyonce.
Aswell as failing to provide any evidence on theese 5 people stating that they might be controled as well.
And that, Beyonce didn't write her music video, it was based off of the Designers video.
Which they failed to present aswell.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 05, 2010, 09:27:44 PM
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Quote from: "Diana Jean"
What about the other Four who wrote the song, are they being controled?
You failed to research thoughs people and state weither or not they show signs of being controled by the illuminati.
As well as the English Fashion designer.

Who told you he isn't a puppet or an illuminati/freem. also ? I haven't done any research on him so I can't tell you ....but it's not because he is a designer that he is all "innocent"
and for the people who co wrote the song , they are part of the music industry ....
Again i hav'nt done any researches on them ... there are more Important things too look into imo
I was trying to point  out the fact that, they say Beyonce is a victom of mind control because of this song.
They failed to point out the facts that this song was written by FIVE people, not just Beyonce.
Aswell as failing to provide any evidence on theese 5 people stating that they might be controled as well.
And that, Beyonce didn't write her music video, it was based off of the Designers video.
Which they failed to present aswell.

This song was made for her , her being mind controled , she can't write her songs (however she claims to do LOL big copycat anyways...)it's just about her/the mind control
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 05, 2010, 09:31:48 PM
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Quote from: "ROFL"
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
What about the other Four who wrote the song, are they being controled?
You failed to research thoughs people and state weither or not they show signs of being controled by the illuminati.
As well as the English Fashion designer.

Who told you he isn't a puppet or an illuminati/freem. also ? I haven't done any research on him so I can't tell you ....but it's not because he is a designer that he is all "innocent"
and for the people who co wrote the song , they are part of the music industry ....
Again i hav'nt done any researches on them ... there are more Important things too look into imo
I was trying to point  out the fact that, they say Beyonce is a victom of mind control because of this song.
They failed to point out the facts that this song was written by FIVE people, not just Beyonce.
Aswell as failing to provide any evidence on theese 5 people stating that they might be controled as well.
And that, Beyonce didn't write her music video, it was based off of the Designers video.
Which they failed to present aswell.

This song was made for her , her being mind controled , she can't write her songs (however she claims to do LOL big copycat anyways...)it's just about her/the mind control
The song was co written by Five people. Please present to me the proof that theese Five people are being controled. Show me that all Five of them believe the illuminati exsists. They have not presented info stating that theese Five people all know about the illuminati, how do theese people know Beyonce is being controled?
(and LOL at the copycat)
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

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Quote from: "Diana Jean"
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What about the other Four who wrote the song, are they being controled?
You failed to research thoughs people and state weither or not they show signs of being controled by the illuminati.
As well as the English Fashion designer.

Who told you he isn't a puppet or an illuminati/freem. also ? I haven't done any research on him so I can't tell you ....but it's not because he is a designer that he is all "innocent"
and for the people who co wrote the song , they are part of the music industry ....
Again i hav'nt done any researches on them ... there are more Important things too look into imo
I was trying to point  out the fact that, they say Beyonce is a victom of mind control because of this song.
They failed to point out the facts that this song was written by FIVE people, not just Beyonce.
Aswell as failing to provide any evidence on theese 5 people stating that they might be controled as well.
And that, Beyonce didn't write her music video, it was based off of the Designers video.
Which they failed to present aswell.

This song was made for her , her being mind controled , she can't write her songs (however she claims to do LOL big copycat anyways...)it's just about her/the mind control
The song was co written by Five people. Please present to me the proof that theese Five people are being controled. Show me that all Five of them believe the illuminati exsists. They have not presented info stating that theese Five people all know about the illuminati, how do theese people know Beyonce is being controled?
(and LOL at the copycat)
the whole music industry is ran by the illuminati! that would include artist, producers, video directors, stylist ect. thats why they all go hand in hand...

they run all forms of entertainment and mostly everything we use on a daily bases including automobiles and banks, this is not a small group and if you read about there agendas then you would know why all involved know what is going on and purposely write/direct/choreograph and style videos like this

[youtube:2hpwmlgu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWNeVLWEHGY[/youtube:2hpwmlgu]

this person who talks about this video use to work in the undustry on video sets..this is part 9 but i would watch all of them so you can understand there agendas and why things are happening in the media
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

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All  musicians, or just the famous ones? I know plenty of musicians, I myself, am a musician.
Show me proof that theese 5 song creaters are all victims.  Souza&Mo said Beyonce is a victim and they provided reasons for believeing so.

They decived people who don't investigate for themselves, because they failed to state that, um, FIVE people wrote the song not just beyonce. If you can find me proof about the other four of theese people, then so be it. But no one has.

Gareth Pugh is a fashion designer, not a musician. He currently lives in France. Where is your evidence he is being controled?

If you can show me evidence that the rest of theese people are all being controled, like you have evidence of Beyonce, then fine. But you dont.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 06, 2010, 12:01:32 AM
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All  musicians, or just the famous ones? I know plenty of musicians, I myself, am a musician.
Show me proof that theese 5 song creaters are all victims.  Souza&Mo said Beyonce is a victim and they provided reasons for believeing so.

You dont have to be mind control victim to write a song :lol: all you have to do is know about the subject

if your not famous then your not in the music industry, your a musician and i never said ALL persons who are musicians are mind controlled or even down with the illuminati, BUT to get that push that you need to be famous then yes

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They decived peoplsong not just beyonce. If you can find me proof about the other four of theese people, then so be it. But no one has. e who don't investigate for themselves, because they failed to state that, um, FIVE people wrote the
I cant speak for people who dont investigate for themselves BUT it doesnt matter who wrote the song! songs are written for certain artist for a reason. They never said SHE wrote it there fore there was no deception.

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Gareth Pugh is a fashion designer, not a musician. He currently lives in France. Where is your evidence he is being controled?

and again NO ONE said everyone is under mind control :lol:

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If you can show me evidence that the rest of theese people are all being controled, like you have evidence of Beyonce, then fine. But you dont

i would like for you to show me where anyone said that everyone involved with her video/song ect were under mindcontrol. I, nor alot of people who research the symbols are not under mind control so why couldnt the song writers or anyone else involed?

your trying to debunk a theory by saying she did not write the song YET you have not proven any evidence that the other 4 people DIDNT know what they were writing about?

have you ever looked in MK ULTRA and then symbols?
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 06, 2010, 11:08:33 AM
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IMO girls who act/think they are "princesses" is a form of mind control or like an alter. the whole pagent thing and girls who are over 10 and still call themselves "princess" and wear tiarras and act in that "prissy" way. IDK I just alway found that weird, esp to want to only be a princess and not a queen...lol  or for boys who group up and want to be "soliders" or "policeman" basicly someone of authority with a gun..toys,movies,cartoons ect influence people more than they think and i think things like that are smaller cased of mind control and/or alters being programmed in your mind

You know what? I've never thought of it that way. It's really interesting that you mention that. I've never allowed my younger siblings to play with toy guns or other toy weapons. Super soakers...yeah. But other than that, no. Mainly because they are young and I want them to understand the seriousness of death and killing etc. I don't want them running around pointing their toy gun at someone's head. It's not funny. Not at all. Also, there are a lot of violent video games out there that influence children, teens and young adults. I haven't done much research on it but I heard that they've proven somehow that children who play violent video games grow up to be more violent as adults. It's even been the focus on a few Law and Order episodes.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 06, 2010, 11:12:25 AM
And Souza, I just found this on youtube. You said that Britney is/may be one of these victims also right? What do you think of this?

Britney Spears "Sweet Dreams" Live in Anahiem
[youtube:15rytee4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpJ5Ku5gGn4[/youtube:15rytee4]

A lot of people commented on how sexy it is but I personally felt kinda disturbed. Especially with all the reading I've done lately.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 06, 2010, 11:31:37 AM
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And Souza, I just found this on youtube. You said that Britney is/may be one of these victims also right? What do you think of this?

Britney Spears "Sweet Dreams" Live in Anahiem
[youtube:1ci0cok5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpJ5Ku5gGn4[/youtube:1ci0cok5]

A lot of people commented on how sexy it is but I personally felt kinda disturbed. Especially with all the reading I've done lately.


Lizzie, that's a very clear video and very disturbing. Also look at the lyrics, it has been covered by lots of artists:

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused

I wanna use you and abuse you
I wanna know what's inside you
(Whispering) Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Movin' on!

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused

I'm gonna use you and abuse you
I'm gonna know what's inside
Gonna use you and abuse you
I'm gonna know what's inside you
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 06, 2010, 11:39:45 AM
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Britney Spears "Sweet Dreams" Live in Anahiem
[youtube:2n90fhoz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpJ5Ku5gGn4[/youtube:2n90fhoz]


oh,it reminds me Eyes Wide Shut.............
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 06, 2010, 11:55:47 AM
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Lizzie, that's a very clear video and very disturbing. Also look at the lyrics, it has been covered by lots of artists:

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused

I wanna use you and abuse you
I wanna know what's inside you
(Whispering) Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Movin' on!

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused

I'm gonna use you and abuse you
I'm gonna know what's inside
Gonna use you and abuse you
I'm gonna know what's inside you

Wow. I never paid much attention to the lyrics. I need to though. It is disturbing.  :?
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 06, 2010, 01:30:33 PM
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And Souza, I just found this on youtube. You said that Britney is/may be one of these victims also right? What do you think of this?

Britney Spears "Sweet Dreams" Live in Anahiem
[youtube:dsvho55z]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpJ5Ku5gGn4[/youtube:dsvho55z]

A lot of people commented on how sexy it is but I personally felt kinda disturbed. Especially with all the reading I've done lately.

i seen this also, yea at first glance it may seem sexy but when you look at the symbols,the mask, the song it all makes sense what is really going on

ima gona find the video that shows the link with the original song with marilyns and beyonces cover also

http://www.zshare.net/video/6451193453d24387/
^ this one is about sweet dreams
http://www.zshare.net/video/646478682425babf/
^^ this one is a responce to beyonces sweet dreams by jay

here is a link to all his videos 47-55 on our yourtube but most of these were taken off
http://illuminatimusic.8m.com/theindustry.htm
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 06, 2010, 09:47:56 PM
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and again NO ONE said everyone is under mind control :lol:

Misha86 just said:
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the whole music industry is ran by the illuminati! that would include artist, producers, video directors, stylist ect. thats why they all go hand in hand...

they run all forms of entertainment and mostly everything we use on a daily bases
Which, By the way, is not true. My uncle is an actor he has been in movies and TV shows, he is not being controled.
Acting falls under the catagory of Entertainment, no?



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i would like for you to show me where anyone said that everyone involved with her video/song ect were under mindcontrol. I, nor alot of people who research the symbols are not under mind control so why couldnt the song writers or anyone else involed?
So, if theese four other people aren't being controled (which would contradict what Misha86 said) why would they write a song about being under control? Did Beyonce get together with them and say "I'm being controled by the illuminati, write a song with me about it" ?  :lol: Please.
And the video was based off of a video Gareth Pugh made to display fashion, when this video was made it had nothing to do with Beyonce, and Mind control.


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your trying to debunk a theory by saying she did not write the song YET you have not proven any evidence that the other 4 people DIDNT know what they were writing about?
You failed to state that they did.
The point of my post was, Souza&Mo are telling people Beyonce is under control because of this song, and video. Beyonce did not write the song alone and they failed to mention that. They failed to present evidence of the other FOUR people showing signs of being controled.
The music video was based off of a video by Gareth Pugh, which was writen long before Beyonce's video.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 06, 2010, 10:23:44 PM
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Which, By the way, is not true. My uncle is an actor he has been in movies and TV shows, he is not being controled.
Acting falls under the catagory of Entertainment, no?

its not about every single actor being "controlled" but what we see and the symbols ,storys ect ARE. your making this into an every single person thing and its bigger than that. you missing the point, your uncle probably isnt under mind control and very well may not even know what is going on BUT the higher ups, i.e. writes,directors ect do know what is going on. So unless your uncle is big time actor there is no need to inform him. The same goes for the music industry, as yes they run all froms of entertainment, the producers,writers,video directors,major artist all know what is going on, Little jessica who is on her cousins label is not going to know what truely goes on.


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So, if theese four other people aren't being controled (which would contradict what Misha86 said) why would they write a song about being under control? Did Beyonce get together with them and say "I'm being controled by the illuminati, write a song with me about it" ?  :lol: Please.
And the video was based off of a video Gareth Pugh made to display fashion, when this video was made it had nothing to do with Beyonce, and Mind control.

firstly as pointed out beyonce does not write her own songs, they add her name to songs to make her seem like a well rounded artist. secondly being under mind control and being under the control of the illuminati are 2 differnt things that you dont seem to understand. Most videos, movies ect are 2 fold, so if the story you heard was that it was about the fashion designer than fine, obviously they are not going to say what the subliminal message of the video is...lol then it wouldnt be subliminal

obviously you failed to look into the illuminati, which familys are involved,what they run,there plans and the reasons for MK ultra victims and there use of subliminal messages. Instead of you claiming they are decieving people who have not done research why dont you do research of you own then come back and post a valid arguement. your arguing against something you know nothing about and its useless because without knowing about them your not going to understand it your still taking everything at face value.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 06, 2010, 10:31:12 PM
You still have yet to show me evidence that the people who wrote this song are being controled.
If Beyonce doesn't write her own songs, then you can't look into the songs she sings for signs of her being controled. Let's be smart now.

for anyone who is reading this, INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELF.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 08:04:22 AM
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
You still have yet to show me evidence that the people who wrote this song are being controled.
If Beyonce doesn't write her own songs, then you can't look into the songs she sings for signs of her being controled. Let's be smart now.

for anyone who is reading this, INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELF.


We are not saying EVERYONE in the music industry is controlled, but most of the very big ones are.
And I think you should read up on it before you judge, you obviously have no knowledge of this at all.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 01:31:42 PM
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Quote from: "Diana Jean"
You still have yet to show me evidence that the people who wrote this song are being controled.
If Beyonce doesn't write her own songs, then you can't look into the songs she sings for signs of her being controled. Let's be smart now.

for anyone who is reading this, INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELF.


We are not saying EVERYONE in the music industry is controlled, but most of the very big ones are.
And I think you should read up on it before you judge, you obviously have no knowledge of this at all.

The purpose of your OP was to show people that Beyonce is being controled because lyrics of a song she sings  shows signs of being controled.

She didn't write that song, which means the lyrics did not come from her.
She only sings it, you don't have to be under control to sing a song like that.
The lyrics of the song came from the people who actually wrote it, which you still fail to show evidence of them being controled. When I ask for it you say "not everyone in music is being controled"
Which means that you have no evidence what so ever, and you can't defend your OP.
I rest my case.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 02:32:41 PM
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Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
You still have yet to show me evidence that the people who wrote this song are being controled.
If Beyonce doesn't write her own songs, then you can't look into the songs she sings for signs of her being controled. Let's be smart now.

for anyone who is reading this, INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELF.


We are not saying EVERYONE in the music industry is controlled, but most of the very big ones are.
And I think you should read up on it before you judge, you obviously have no knowledge of this at all.

The purpose of your OP was to show people that Beyonce is being controled because lyrics of a song she sings  shows signs of being controled.

She didn't write that song, which means the lyrics did not come from her.
She only sings it, you don't have to be under control to sing a song like that.
The lyrics of the song came from the people who actually wrote it, which you still fail to show evidence of them being controled. When I ask for it you say "not everyone in music is being controled"
Which means that you have no evidence what so ever, and you can't defend your OP.
I rest my case.

Me too   :roll:
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 02:47:56 PM
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
You still have yet to show me evidence that the people who wrote this song are being controled.
If Beyonce doesn't write her own songs, then you can't look into the songs she sings for signs of her being controled. Let's be smart now.

for anyone who is reading this, INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELF.


We are not saying EVERYONE in the music industry is controlled, but most of the very big ones are.
And I think you should read up on it before you judge, you obviously have no knowledge of this at all.

The purpose of your OP was to show people that Beyonce is being controled because lyrics of a song she sings  shows signs of being controled.

She didn't write that song, which means the lyrics did not come from her.
She only sings it, you don't have to be under control to sing a song like that.
The lyrics of the song came from the people who actually wrote it, which you still fail to show evidence of them being controled. When I ask for it you say "not everyone in music is being controled"
Which means that you have no evidence what so ever, and you can't defend your OP.
I rest my case.


OMG -_- , what is so hard to understand ? Not everyone is under mind control , we say they wrote this song for her because she is a mind controled artist  and they are/or works with the illuminati  , i don't understand what is so hard to understand ? Seriously ?
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 02:54:36 PM
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Quote from: "Diana Jean"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
You still have yet to show me evidence that the people who wrote this song are being controled.
If Beyonce doesn't write her own songs, then you can't look into the songs she sings for signs of her being controled. Let's be smart now.

for anyone who is reading this, INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELF.


We are not saying EVERYONE in the music industry is controlled, but most of the very big ones are.
And I think you should read up on it before you judge, you obviously have no knowledge of this at all.

The purpose of your OP was to show people that Beyonce is being controled because lyrics of a song she sings  shows signs of being controled.

She didn't write that song, which means the lyrics did not come from her.
She only sings it, you don't have to be under control to sing a song like that.
The lyrics of the song came from the people who actually wrote it, which you still fail to show evidence of them being controled. When I ask for it you say "not everyone in music is being controled"
Which means that you have no evidence what so ever, and you can't defend your OP.
I rest my case.


OMG -_- , what is so hard to understand ? Not everyone is under mind control , we say they wrote this song for her because she is a mind controled artist  and they are/or works with the illuminati  , i don't understand what is so hard to understand ? Seriously ?

Eum, actually Diana Jean makes a lot of sense. You say "and they are/or works with the illuminati", can  anyone prove that? Can anyone provide any evidence that the people who actually wrote the song, and therefor decided on the lyrics, are in any way involved with the illuminati or mindcontrol?
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 03:09:13 PM
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Quote from: "Diana Jean"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
You still have yet to show me evidence that the people who wrote this song are being controled.
If Beyonce doesn't write her own songs, then you can't look into the songs she sings for signs of her being controled. Let's be smart now.

for anyone who is reading this, INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELF.


We are not saying EVERYONE in the music industry is controlled, but most of the very big ones are.
And I think you should read up on it before you judge, you obviously have no knowledge of this at all.

The purpose of your OP was to show people that Beyonce is being controled because lyrics of a song she sings  shows signs of being controled.

She didn't write that song, which means the lyrics did not come from her.
She only sings it, you don't have to be under control to sing a song like that.
The lyrics of the song came from the people who actually wrote it, which you still fail to show evidence of them being controled. When I ask for it you say "not everyone in music is being controled"
Which means that you have no evidence what so ever, and you can't defend your OP.
I rest my case.


OMG -_- , what is so hard to understand ? Not everyone is under mind control , we say they wrote this song for her because she is a mind controled artist  and they are/or works with the illuminati  , i don't understand what is so hard to understand ? Seriously ?

Eum, actually Diana Jean makes a lot of sense. You say "and they are/or works with the illuminati", can  anyone prove that? Can anyone provide any evidence that the people who actually wrote the song, and therefor decided on the lyrics, are in any way involved with the illuminati or mindcontrol?
THANK YOU ilmftbomh! That's exactly what I'm trying to ask.

To ROFL and Souza,
There's something you're not understanding.
Once second you're telling me "they wrote the song for her because they are/or works with the illuminati"
I ask for proof of that, and you tell me "Not everyone is involved with the illuminati"

One second you tell me their involved with the Illuminati, and the next you tell me their not.
It's clear to me that you can't defend what you're saying.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 03:21:22 PM
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Quote from: "ilymftbomh"
Quote from: "ROFL"
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
You still have yet to show me evidence that the people who wrote this song are being controled.
If Beyonce doesn't write her own songs, then you can't look into the songs she sings for signs of her being controled. Let's be smart now.

for anyone who is reading this, INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELF.


We are not saying EVERYONE in the music industry is controlled, but most of the very big ones are.
And I think you should read up on it before you judge, you obviously have no knowledge of this at all.

The purpose of your OP was to show people that Beyonce is being controled because lyrics of a song she sings  shows signs of being controled.

She didn't write that song, which means the lyrics did not come from her.
She only sings it, you don't have to be under control to sing a song like that.
The lyrics of the song came from the people who actually wrote it, which you still fail to show evidence of them being controled. When I ask for it you say "not everyone in music is being controled"
Which means that you have no evidence what so ever, and you can't defend your OP.
I rest my case.


OMG -_- , what is so hard to understand ? Not everyone is under mind control , we say they wrote this song for her because she is a mind controled artist  and they are/or works with the illuminati  , i don't understand what is so hard to understand ? Seriously ?

Eum, actually Diana Jean makes a lot of sense. You say "and they are/or works with the illuminati", can  anyone prove that? Can anyone provide any evidence that the people who actually wrote the song, and therefor decided on the lyrics, are in any way involved with the illuminati or mindcontrol?
THANK YOU ilmftbomh! That's exactly what I'm trying to ask.

To ROFL and Souza,
There's something you're not understanding.
Once second you're telling me "they wrote the song for her because they are/or works with the illuminati"
I ask for proof of that, and you tell me "Not everyone is involved with the illuminati"

One second you tell me their involved with the Illuminati, and the next you tell me their not.
It's clear to me that you can't defend what you're saying.


What do you want Diana Jean? You want proof? Videos of kids that go through horrific tortures? Want me to tell you what they do to those kids? Are you really sure you want the same headache I have had for weeks now? Want to cry your eyes out? Give me your e-mail and I will mail you the 748 pages of the book. Go read it first and then come back ridiculing this. I am not a victim so by ridiculing this you won't hurt me, but you might hurt those who are with your biased comments.

I posted this for your information. If you think it's crap, and you hate this forum that much like you told our nice conspiracy blogger, then just leave. This is not the only forum.

I don't post everything I read about this stuff, because it breaks your heart and makes you run to the toilet to vomit. If you think it's BS, fine by me, but don't ask for proof, because I can't give it to you.

Read up about this before you ridicule, otherwise just skip the topic. Do a search on YouTube for Cathy O'Brien and listen to her heart breaking story. Read the book and see the obvious signs some artists have in their videos, listen to their lyrics again after reading it. But believe me, you won't like what you read. Why? Because when you have read it you will know it's not BS.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 03:24:23 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
Quote from: "ilymftbomh"
Quote from: "ROFL"
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
You still have yet to show me evidence that the people who wrote this song are being controled.
If Beyonce doesn't write her own songs, then you can't look into the songs she sings for signs of her being controled. Let's be smart now.

for anyone who is reading this, INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELF.


We are not saying EVERYONE in the music industry is controlled, but most of the very big ones are.
And I think you should read up on it before you judge, you obviously have no knowledge of this at all.

The purpose of your OP was to show people that Beyonce is being controled because lyrics of a song she sings  shows signs of being controled.

She didn't write that song, which means the lyrics did not come from her.
She only sings it, you don't have to be under control to sing a song like that.
The lyrics of the song came from the people who actually wrote it, which you still fail to show evidence of them being controled. When I ask for it you say "not everyone in music is being controled"
Which means that you have no evidence what so ever, and you can't defend your OP.
I rest my case.


OMG -_- , what is so hard to understand ? Not everyone is under mind control , we say they wrote this song for her because she is a mind controled artist  and they are/or works with the illuminati  , i don't understand what is so hard to understand ? Seriously ?

Eum, actually Diana Jean makes a lot of sense. You say "and they are/or works with the illuminati", can  anyone prove that? Can anyone provide any evidence that the people who actually wrote the song, and therefor decided on the lyrics, are in any way involved with the illuminati or mindcontrol?
THANK YOU ilmftbomh! That's exactly what I'm trying to ask.

To ROFL and Souza,
There's something you're not understanding.
Once second you're telling me "they wrote the song for her because they are/or works with the illuminati"
I ask for proof of that, and you tell me "Not everyone is involved with the illuminati"

One second you tell me their involved with the Illuminati, and the next you tell me their not.
It's clear to me that you can't defend what you're saying.


What do you want Diana Jean? You want proof? Videos of kids that go through horrific tortures? Want me to tell you what they do to those kids? Are you really sure you want the same headache I have had for weeks now? Want to cry your eyes out? Give me your e-mail and I will mail you the 748 pages of the book. Go read it first and then come back ridiculing this. I am not a victim so by ridiculing this you won't hurt me, but you might hurt those who are with your biased comments.

I posted this for your information. If you think it's crap, and you hate this forum that much like you told our nice conspiracy blogger, then just leave. This is not the only forum.

I don't post everything I read about this stuff, because it breaks your heart and makes you run to the toilet to vomit. If you think it's BS, fine by me, but don't ask for proof, because I can't give it to you.

Read up about this before you ridicule, otherwise just skip the topic. Do a search on YouTube for Cathy O'Brien and listen to her heart breaking story. Read the book and see the obvious signs some artists have in their videos, listen to their lyrics again after reading it. But believe me, you won't like what you read. Why? Because when you have read it you will know it's not BS.
It would have been allot easier if you would have just said
"I can't defend the OP"
'cause that's basicly what you're telling me.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 03:28:25 PM
Souza,
Just for clarification, what is the title of the book you are referring to?  I'd like to do some reading, and would like to know your recommendations.  Thanks!  ;)
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 03:29:29 PM
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
Quote from: "ilymftbomh"
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Quote from: "~Souza~"
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You still have yet to show me evidence that the people who wrote this song are being controled.
If Beyonce doesn't write her own songs, then you can't look into the songs she sings for signs of her being controled. Let's be smart now.

for anyone who is reading this, INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELF.


We are not saying EVERYONE in the music industry is controlled, but most of the very big ones are.
And I think you should read up on it before you judge, you obviously have no knowledge of this at all.

The purpose of your OP was to show people that Beyonce is being controled because lyrics of a song she sings  shows signs of being controled.

She didn't write that song, which means the lyrics did not come from her.
She only sings it, you don't have to be under control to sing a song like that.
The lyrics of the song came from the people who actually wrote it, which you still fail to show evidence of them being controled. When I ask for it you say "not everyone in music is being controled"
Which means that you have no evidence what so ever, and you can't defend your OP.
I rest my case.


OMG -_- , what is so hard to understand ? Not everyone is under mind control , we say they wrote this song for her because she is a mind controled artist  and they are/or works with the illuminati  , i don't understand what is so hard to understand ? Seriously ?

Eum, actually Diana Jean makes a lot of sense. You say "and they are/or works with the illuminati", can  anyone prove that? Can anyone provide any evidence that the people who actually wrote the song, and therefor decided on the lyrics, are in any way involved with the illuminati or mindcontrol?
THANK YOU ilmftbomh! That's exactly what I'm trying to ask.

To ROFL and Souza,
There's something you're not understanding.
Once second you're telling me "they wrote the song for her because they are/or works with the illuminati"
I ask for proof of that, and you tell me "Not everyone is involved with the illuminati"

One second you tell me their involved with the Illuminati, and the next you tell me their not.
It's clear to me that you can't defend what you're saying.


What do you want Diana Jean? You want proof? Videos of kids that go through horrific tortures? Want me to tell you what they do to those kids? Are you really sure you want the same headache I have had for weeks now? Want to cry your eyes out? Give me your e-mail and I will mail you the 748 pages of the book. Go read it first and then come back ridiculing this. I am not a victim so by ridiculing this you won't hurt me, but you might hurt those who are with your biased comments.

I posted this for your information. If you think it's crap, and you hate this forum that much like you told our nice conspiracy blogger, then just leave. This is not the only forum.

I don't post everything I read about this stuff, because it breaks your heart and makes you run to the toilet to vomit. If you think it's BS, fine by me, but don't ask for proof, because I can't give it to you.

Read up about this before you ridicule, otherwise just skip the topic. Do a search on YouTube for Cathy O'Brien and listen to her heart breaking story. Read the book and see the obvious signs some artists have in their videos, listen to their lyrics again after reading it. But believe me, you won't like what you read. Why? Because when you have read it you will know it's not BS.
It would have been allot easier if you would have just said
"I can't defend the OP"
'cause that's basicly what you're telling me.

Like I said, I can defend it but I won't post certain stuff here. I can send you the book if you want so you can read about it yourself. No interest in the book? Not willing to read up on it? Then I rest my case.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 03:42:27 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
Quote from: "ilymftbomh"
Quote from: "ROFL"
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
You still have yet to show me evidence that the people who wrote this song are being controled.
If Beyonce doesn't write her own songs, then you can't look into the songs she sings for signs of her being controled. Let's be smart now.

for anyone who is reading this, INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELF.


We are not saying EVERYONE in the music industry is controlled, but most of the very big ones are.
And I think you should read up on it before you judge, you obviously have no knowledge of this at all.

The purpose of your OP was to show people that Beyonce is being controled because lyrics of a song she sings  shows signs of being controled.

She didn't write that song, which means the lyrics did not come from her.
She only sings it, you don't have to be under control to sing a song like that.
The lyrics of the song came from the people who actually wrote it, which you still fail to show evidence of them being controled. When I ask for it you say "not everyone in music is being controled"
Which means that you have no evidence what so ever, and you can't defend your OP.
I rest my case.


OMG -_- , what is so hard to understand ? Not everyone is under mind control , we say they wrote this song for her because she is a mind controled artist  and they are/or works with the illuminati  , i don't understand what is so hard to understand ? Seriously ?

Eum, actually Diana Jean makes a lot of sense. You say "and they are/or works with the illuminati", can  anyone prove that? Can anyone provide any evidence that the people who actually wrote the song, and therefor decided on the lyrics, are in any way involved with the illuminati or mindcontrol?
THANK YOU ilmftbomh! That's exactly what I'm trying to ask.

To ROFL and Souza,
There's something you're not understanding.
Once second you're telling me "they wrote the song for her because they are/or works with the illuminati"
I ask for proof of that, and you tell me "Not everyone is involved with the illuminati"

One second you tell me their involved with the Illuminati, and the next you tell me their not.
It's clear to me that you can't defend what you're saying.


What do you want Diana Jean? You want proof? Videos of kids that go through horrific tortures? Want me to tell you what they do to those kids? Are you really sure you want the same headache I have had for weeks now? Want to cry your eyes out? Give me your e-mail and I will mail you the 748 pages of the book. Go read it first and then come back ridiculing this. I am not a victim so by ridiculing this you won't hurt me, but you might hurt those who are with your biased comments.

I posted this for your information. If you think it's crap, and you hate this forum that much like you told our nice conspiracy blogger, then just leave. This is not the only forum.

I don't post everything I read about this stuff, because it breaks your heart and makes you run to the toilet to vomit. If you think it's BS, fine by me, but don't ask for proof, because I can't give it to you.

Read up about this before you ridicule, otherwise just skip the topic. Do a search on YouTube for Cathy O'Brien and listen to her heart breaking story. Read the book and see the obvious signs some artists have in their videos, listen to their lyrics again after reading it. But believe me, you won't like what you read. Why? Because when you have read it you will know it's not BS.
It would have been allot easier if you would have just said
"I can't defend the OP"
'cause that's basicly what you're telling me.

Like I said, I can defend it but I won't post certain stuff here. I can send you the book if you want so you can read about it yourself. No interest in the book? Not willing to read up on it? Then I rest my case.

*sigh*
Souza, the purpose of your OP was to show people Beyonce is being controled because of song lyrics she sings.
That would have been great, but Beyonce didn't write the song, it was written by FIVE different people.
The lyrics where given to Beyonce, they didn't come from her mind.

You can tell me the people who wrote the song for her are under the control of the illuminati, but you haven't given me the evidence to believe so. When I ask for it you tell me "Not everyone is under control of the illuminati"


Quote
Do a search on YouTube for Cathy O'Brien and listen to her heart breaking story. Read the book and see the obvious signs some artists have in their videos, listen to their lyrics again after reading it.
I'm not talking about Cathy O'Brein. I'm not doubting she's being controled because I know nothing about her.
I'm talking about your OP. You say Beyonce is being controled, and your argument is song lyrics. Lyrics which you conveniently forgot to mention DID NOT COME FROM HER.

How in the world can you use lyrics that didn't come from her as proof she's being controled?
Don't tell me "The song was written for her", because then I'll ask for proof that the people who wrote the song for her are undercontrol of the illuminati. I already know your answer to that one: "Not everyone is under control of the illuminati, but most of them are"

Which doesn't defend your OP. Which is ALL I'm talking about.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 04:57:46 PM
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
You say Beyonce is being controled, and your argument is song lyrics. Lyrics which you conveniently forgot to mention DID NOT COME FROM HER.

Okay Diana Jean, one more time: Souza copied and pasted that article, she did not write that article.  SHE did not "conveniently forgot to mention DID NOT COME FROM HER".  Got it now?

I seriously wonder why you keep coming back here to post if you hate us and this forum so much like you posted at that conspiracy blog.  If you do that just to stir things up, then I am going to ignore your posts from now on.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 05:20:57 PM
Just the lyrics Diana Jean? Are you sure you read the whole article I posted? I don't think you did.

BTW, the lyrics DID come from her:
"Sweet Dreams" is a song by American R&B singer Beyoncé Knowles from her third studio album, I Am… Sasha Fierce (2008). Written and produced by Knowles, James Scheffer, Wayne Wilkins, and Rico Love, the track was released as the album's sixth single. (Wikipedia)

Maybe you can check the co-writers yourself, I have done enough. I am not here to convince you, if you are interested you can do your own research, I'm not your dog. If you are not interested, I am seriously wondering what you are still doing in this thread. There are lots and lots of threads about other subjects. I am done.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 05:37:39 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Just the lyrics Diana Jean? Are you sure you read the whole article I posted? I don't think you did.

BTW, the lyrics DID come from her:
"Sweet Dreams" is a song by American R&B singer Beyoncé Knowles from her third studio album, I Am… Sasha Fierce (2008). Written and produced by Knowles, James Scheffer, Wayne Wilkins, and Rico Love, the track was released as the album's sixth single. (Wikipedia)

Maybe you can check the co-writers yourself, I have done enough. I am not here to convince you, if you are interested you can do your own research, I'm not your dog. If you are not interested, I am seriously wondering what you are still doing in this thread. There are lots and lots of threads about other subjects. I am done.

Your dear ROFL said
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she can't write her songs (however she claims to do LOL big copycat anyways...
and your dear Misha86 just said
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firstly as pointed out beyonce does not write her own songs, they add her name to songs to make her seem like a well rounded artist
Maybe you guys should stop defending her, Your only makeing your side of the argument look less valid by the second.

Not just the lyrics, you also spoke about the video which was based of off Gareth Pugh Autom/Winter 2009 video. Which you forgot to mention aswell.



Maybe I should check the cowriters? That's not my job. If you're too lazy to follow up your OP  (which you didn't even write, just copied and pasted)  then why did you even post it in the first place?  You have yet to prove the writers of the song are being controled.  

Then you tell me

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Like I said, I can defend it but I won't post certain stuff here
Which AKA translation "I can't defend it"

Don't dish out what you can't defend.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 05:43:44 PM
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Just the lyrics Diana Jean? Are you sure you read the whole article I posted? I don't think you did.

BTW, the lyrics DID come from her:
"Sweet Dreams" is a song by American R&B singer Beyoncé Knowles from her third studio album, I Am… Sasha Fierce (2008). Written and produced by Knowles, James Scheffer, Wayne Wilkins, and Rico Love, the track was released as the album's sixth single. (Wikipedia)

Maybe you can check the co-writers yourself, I have done enough. I am not here to convince you, if you are interested you can do your own research, I'm not your dog. If you are not interested, I am seriously wondering what you are still doing in this thread. There are lots and lots of threads about other subjects. I am done.

Your dear ROFL said
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she can't write her songs (however she claims to do LOL big copycat anyways...
and your dead Misha86 just said
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firstly as pointed out beyonce does not write her own songs, they add her name to songs to make her seem like a well rounded artist
Maybe you guys should stop defending her, Your only makeing your side of the argument look less valid by the second.

Not just the lyrics, you also spoke about the video which was based of off Gareth Pugh Autom/Winter 2009 video. Which you forgot to mention aswell.



Maybe I should check the cowriters? That's not my job. If you're too lazy to follow up your OP  (which you didn't even write, just copied and pasted)  then why did you even post it in the first place?  You have yet to prove the writers of the song are being controled.  

Then you tell me

Quote
Like I said, I can defend it but I won't post certain stuff here
Which AKA translation "I can't defend it"

Don't dish out what you can't defend.

Won't work Diana, you are underestimating me.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 08:11:30 PM
Diana Jean, why are you still even having this conversation??

YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you have done all this talking and yet you havent provided information that they are NOT controlled by the illuminati?????

You know nothing about them and what they do So you wouldnt understand and obviously you dont want to understand :roll:

and its wasnt just about the song lyrics, if you had knowledge about mind control you would know what they do and what type of things they use, the alters,symbols ect and then you wouldnt be so sure that she isnt under mindcontrol :roll:

So again when YOU do your own reaseach, other then finding out that others wrote the song then come and argue,until then just dont post in this topic because its obvious you not going to understand because you dont want to understand
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 08:30:47 PM
I would like to have te name of the book Souza is reading.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 08:42:46 PM
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Quote from: "Diana Jean"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Just the lyrics Diana Jean? Are you sure you read the whole article I posted? I don't think you did.

BTW, the lyrics DID come from her:
"Sweet Dreams" is a song by American R&B singer Beyoncé Knowles from her third studio album, I Am… Sasha Fierce (2008). Written and produced by Knowles, James Scheffer, Wayne Wilkins, and Rico Love, the track was released as the album's sixth single. (Wikipedia)

Maybe you can check the co-writers yourself, I have done enough. I am not here to convince you, if you are interested you can do your own research, I'm not your dog. If you are not interested, I am seriously wondering what you are still doing in this thread. There are lots and lots of threads about other subjects. I am done.

Your dear ROFL said
Quote
she can't write her songs (however she claims to do LOL big copycat anyways...
and your dead Misha86 just said
Quote
firstly as pointed out beyonce does not write her own songs, they add her name to songs to make her seem like a well rounded artist
Maybe you guys should stop defending her, Your only makeing your side of the argument look less valid by the second.

Not just the lyrics, you also spoke about the video which was based of off Gareth Pugh Autom/Winter 2009 video. Which you forgot to mention aswell.



Maybe I should check the cowriters? That's not my job. If you're too lazy to follow up your OP  (which you didn't even write, just copied and pasted)  then why did you even post it in the first place?  You have yet to prove the writers of the song are being controled.  

Then you tell me

Quote
Like I said, I can defend it but I won't post certain stuff here
Which AKA translation "I can't defend it"

Don't dish out what you can't defend.

Won't work Diana, you are underestimating me.
This right here is proof that you can't defend what you post.
A charecteristic of a good investigator is to question everything, and that's all I did.
How can you ever get anything done if you're not willing to hear both sides of the arguement?
Believe what you must, but Souza just proved to me that she can't defend what she posts. (by post I mean copied and pasted without further investigation)

I don't know why everybody is getting mad at me, it's not my fault the OP isn't what it seems.
I didn't write it.

INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELVES.

Case closed, have a nice day.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 07, 2010, 10:00:27 PM
:shock:  
ROFL :lol:
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 08, 2010, 02:29:29 PM
:lol:  :lol:

Sorry guys, actually I did not want to post on these "ooohh - spooky conspiracy ..."-sites anymore - but, well, I can`t help ..

The origin of "Sweet dreams are made of this" has nothing to do with Beyoncé  ... it`s first release was in 1983 by the british band Eurythmics and I remember it quite well - really catchy (and same lyrics)! How old are you, btw?  

No, o.k., let`s once be serious here. I really do feel kind of responsible for all members (and admins) of this forum. I am pretty much aware that it might be appealing to follow these illuminati / NWO / MKUltra stuff because these conspiracy theories offer some (black/white) explanations to a complex world. And it`s a huge business already (oh, my) - especially in the U.S..  I am also aware that after 9/11/2001 there is a broad approach to these theories - not only in the U.S. - and arguing might be in vain.  But honestly, Souza, Mo, I always remembered you being bright and rational -  what made you change your mind?  Or is there a script you follow? OK, "I don`t wanna say too much ..." (quoting Michael).

But this time I ask you to believe ME: Unfortunately there is no "master plan" for this world ... it is as complex - and probably disturbing - as it is. And there are not only the good guys and the bad guys - all human beings on this planet, all nations, religions, ideologies, languages, races, generations, habitats, continents etc. follow a whole lot of different interests that might clash in some way at some time. Illuminati and co. are just a conglomerate of everything "evil" under one name - and therefore just a very simple way to look at it.  

Of course just MY HUMBLE OPINION. No arguing, o.k.? O.K.

Anyway, congrats to Diana Jean for your endless effort in asking for proof for all this ... that`s not only legitimate but probably important in this case.

Thank you .
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 08, 2010, 04:43:06 PM
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
The origin of "Sweet dreams are made of this" has nothing to do with Beyoncé  ... it`s first release was in 1983 by the british band Eurythmics and I remember it quite well - really catchy (and same lyrics)! How old are you, btw?

For your information, to show you that the lyrics are totally different:

BEYONCE'S SWEET DREAMS
Turn the lights on

Every night I rush to my bed
With hopes that maybe I'll get a chance to see you
When I close my eyes I'm going out of my head
Lost in a fairytale, can you hold my hands and be my guide?

Clouds filled with stars cover the skies
And I hope it rains, you're the perfect lullaby
What kinda dream is this?

You could be a sweet dream or a beautiful nightmare
Either way I don't wanna wake up from you
(Turn the lights on)

Sweet dream or a beautiful nightmare
Somebody pinch me, your love's too good to be true
(Turn the lights on)

My guilty pleasure, I ain't going no where
Baby long as you're here I'll be floating on air
'Cause you're my

You can be a sweet dream or a beautiful nightmare
Either way I don't wanna wake up from you
(Turn the lights on)

I mention you when I say my prayers
I wrap you around all of my thoughts
Boy you're my temporary high

I wish that when I wake up you're there
To wrap your arms around me for real
And tell me you'll stay by side

Clouds filled with stars cover the skies
And I hope it rains, you're the perfect lullaby
What kinda dream is this?

You could be a sweet dream or a beautiful nightmare
Either way I don't wanna wake up from you
(Turn the lights on)

Sweet dream or a beautiful nightmare
Somebody pinch me, your love's too good to be true
(Turn the lights on)

My guilty pleasure, I ain't going no where
Baby long as you're here I'll be floating on air
'Cause you're my

You can be a sweet dream or a beautiful nightmare
Either way I don't wanna wake up from you
(Turn the lights on)

Tattoo your name across my heart so it will remain
Not even death can make us part
What kind of dream is this?

You could be a sweet dream or a beautiful nightmare
Either way I don't wanna wake up from you
(Turn the lights on)

Sweet dream or a beautiful nightmare
Somebody pinch me, your love's too good to be true
(Turn the lights on)

My guilty pleasure, I ain't going no where
Baby long as you're here I'll be floating on air
'Cause you're my

You can be a sweet dream or a beautiful nightmare
Either way I don't wanna wake up from you
(Turn the lights on)
Either way I don't wanna wake up from you


EURYTHMICS' SWEET DREAMS
Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused

I wanna use you and abuse you
I wanna know what's inside you
(Whispering) Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Movin' on!

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused

I'm gonna use you and abuse you
I'm gonna know what's inside
Gonna use you and abuse you
I'm gonna know what's inside you
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 08, 2010, 05:02:51 PM
I'm glad you know how to copy and paste Mo.
Really, that skill will take you far.
Aintnosunshine, You make allot of sense in what you post.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 08, 2010, 05:06:07 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Lizziebee"
And Souza, I just found this on youtube. You said that Britney is/may be one of these victims also right? What do you think of this?

Britney Spears "Sweet Dreams" Live in Anahiem
[youtube:38u9g302]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpJ5Ku5gGn4[/youtube:38u9g302]

A lot of people commented on how sexy it is but I personally felt kinda disturbed. Especially with all the reading I've done lately.


Lizzie, that's a very clear video and very disturbing. Also look at the lyrics, it has been covered by lots of artists:

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused

I wanna use you and abuse you
I wanna know what's inside you
(Whispering) Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Movin' on!

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused

I'm gonna use you and abuse you
I'm gonna know what's inside
Gonna use you and abuse you
I'm gonna know what's inside you

Well. Mo,I was referring to this (Souza`s quote).

However,  this isn`t a "who`s right - who`s wrong"  -game. is it?  Just different perceptions (of reality ...).

Am I wrong?   I try not to be apodictic - and  you. too?
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 08, 2010, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Lizziebee"
And Souza, I just found this on youtube. You said that Britney is/may be one of these victims also right? What do you think of this?

Britney Spears "Sweet Dreams" Live in Anahiem
[youtube:3f716ffm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpJ5Ku5gGn4[/youtube:3f716ffm]

A lot of people commented on how sexy it is but I personally felt kinda disturbed. Especially with all the reading I've done lately.


Lizzie, that's a very clear video and very disturbing. Also look at the lyrics, it has been covered by lots of artists:

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused

I wanna use you and abuse you
I wanna know what's inside you
(Whispering) Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Hold your head up, movin' on
Keep your head up, movin' on
Movin' on!

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused

I'm gonna use you and abuse you
I'm gonna know what's inside
Gonna use you and abuse you
I'm gonna know what's inside you

Well. Mo,I was referring to this (Souza`s quote).

However,  this isn`t a "who`s right - who`s wrong"  -game. is it?  Just different perceptions (of reality ...).

Am I wrong?   I try not to be apodictic - and  you. too?
That's because all Souza did was copied and pasted without further investigation.
She'll deny it, but she can't defend it.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 08, 2010, 07:07:27 PM
Instead of telling me that I'm wrong, try to prove you two are right. You can't either, so who are you to judge?
I don't like your attitudes at all, but I see who your friends are so it's no surprise. Read before you judge, my offer to send you the book still stands.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 08, 2010, 07:17:14 PM
It looks like you want us to ban you, so that you can scream and shout about "the horrible way we have treated you".  Sorry, that is not going to work  ;)
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 08, 2010, 07:41:11 PM
Souza, send me the book.
It's not my fault you posted an article you found without investigating it first.
It's not my fault you posted something expecting all your followers to read it and praise you.
It's not my fault the article you posted is crap.
I have givin you more than enough chances to prove me wrong, and tell me off with evidence.
But suprise, nothing.

Mo, you got me. Nothing gets passed you.

The OP is what it is, no matter what I say or you say, it's not going to change.
Would you rather believe something that's not true, or do you want to know it's crap to save yourself the trouble?
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 08, 2010, 07:52:52 PM
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
Souza, send me the book.
It's not my fault you posted an article you found without investigating it first.
It's not my fault you posted something expecting all your followers to read it and praise you.
It's not my fault the article you posted is crap.
I have givin you more than enough chances to prove me wrong, and tell me off with evidence.
But suprise, nothing.

Mo, you got me. Nothing gets passed you.

The OP is what it is, no matter what I say or you say, it's not going to change.
Would you rather believe something that's not true, or do you want to know it's crap to save yourself the trouble?

I have investigated it and I do NOT expect everyone to believe, it's for your information. If you are not interested, then fine with me, skip the topic.

I will e-mail you the book, read it first and then come back and ridicule this kind of stuff, you might hurt people by calling it crap.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 08, 2010, 08:33:32 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Diana Jean"
Souza, send me the book.
It's not my fault you posted an article you found without investigating it first.
It's not my fault you posted something expecting all your followers to read it and praise you.
It's not my fault the article you posted is crap.
I have givin you more than enough chances to prove me wrong, and tell me off with evidence.
But suprise, nothing.

Mo, you got me. Nothing gets passed you.

The OP is what it is, no matter what I say or you say, it's not going to change.
Would you rather believe something that's not true, or do you want to know it's crap to save yourself the trouble?

I have investigated it and I do NOT expect everyone to believe, it's for your information. If you are not interested, then fine with me, skip the topic.

I will e-mail you the book, read it first and then come back and ridicule this kind of stuff, you might hurt people by calling it crap.
I wasn't calling the Illuminati crap.
All I was pointing out was that the OP can not be supported with the evidence stated.
When I asked for supporting evidence, you gave me nothing.
This isn't about the Illuminati being real or not, it's about the OP being a reasult of
Poorly investigated copying and pasting.
I look foward to your email.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 08, 2010, 11:24:46 PM
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
:lol:  :lol:

Sorry guys, actually I did not want to post on these "ooohh - spooky conspiracy ..."-sites anymore - but, well, I can`t help ..



No, o.k., let`s once be serious here. I really do feel kind of responsible for all members (and admins) of this forum.
Well, "ooohh, look at you" coming in here to laugh at other people! Are you trying to say that everyone on the board is a naive child that needs looking after by the most intelligent, maturest member, you? No one is paranoid here- these are all intelligent members thinking out of the box and considering every possibility. I did not like those comments at all, especially when, if you look them up, theories about conspiracies in government are very plausible. Why is it that conspiracy "theorists" are so mocked? Who started that? The media certainly is happy to go along with it. However, I did understand what you said about the specific Illuminati.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

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I think Aintnosunshine favorite 's  hobby is to come on illuminati related topics and laugh ... :? How mature it is , and yet she asks us  how old we are .. :?
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 09, 2010, 09:25:22 PM
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I think Aintnosunshine favorite 's  hobby is to come on illuminati related topics and laugh ... :? How mature it is , and yet she asks us  how old we are .. :?
Ay, Caramba..
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 10, 2010, 03:44:08 PM
Wanna trip on me?     :o      
Stop trippin ....  :)  :)  :)  ;)
 :|
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 10, 2010, 06:27:21 PM
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Wanna trip on me?     :o      
Stop trippin ....  :)  :)  :)  ;)
 :|

Stop snarking Aintnosunshine.
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Re: Beyonce’s Sweet Dreams – Occult Mind Control

  • on: February 11, 2010, 11:56:34 AM
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Thank you Souza for your covering post on this subject - and all other posts concerning this. It's a very tough subject to study. And it's easy to tell you've put a lot of hard work into this! I appreciate it!
All the pieces we gather will eventually puzzle up.
People should not redicule these theories. They did not come out of no where!
I agree with you. I feel that MJ is trying to open our eyes to a lot of things we didn't know what is going on. We have to continue to research.
It could be. I personally do not think MJ was a victim of mind control like the MK-Ultra program. But there sure is some sort of mastered control in the music business that ought to be revealed. So I do appreciate the time people also take to look these things through and share oppinions.
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WOW! Thank you for posting this!
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(I can\'t do it by myself)
You can touch the sky
(Gonna take somebody\'s help)
You\'re the chosen one
(I\'m gonna need some kind of sign)
If we all cry at the same time tonight

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Summarizing a bit of symbolism, these strange shapes and images that surround Beyonce are not just creativity, the video shows symbolic scenes of mental possession, worship the sun, fragmentation of the mind (mirrors surrounding Beyonce) and then reborn in a semi-robotic, representing the victim ah been successfully programmed.

How am I doing? :lol:

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*Mo*, Earlier in this thread you were talking about "Da Nile". Here is my take on the subject. http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nile  ;)
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LOL geez - Souza and Mo, I have tons of respect for you both. The things you two have to put up with just blows my mind.

We should not be fighting with each other guys! We are all entitled to our own opinion, and should all be open to processing new opinions and facts. Yes, sometimes that means we have to let go of something we've believed in. But what is more important, your level of comfort or... the truth?

Isn't that what we're all searching for? Truth? On this site and in life?

All with LOVE of course  <3  ------>that's a heart for everyone! lol  :)
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To me Britney Spears is for sure in the mind control program....i mean i followed her career since she first began and now i just see a disturbed woman....when she speaks it seems like she's in a dream....and all the things she's been up to these years....I really believe what Mo and Souza say here...i mean come on  people look at all of these clues in Beyonce's video ...it can't be more clear...

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To me Britney Spears is for sure in the mind control program....i mean i followed her career since she first began and now i just see a disturbed woman....when she speaks it seems like she's in a dream....and all the things she's been up to these years....I really believe what Mo and Souza say here...i mean come on  people look at all of these clues in Beyonce's video ...it can't be more clear...

Holy Cow, where'd you get that smokin' hot picture of Michael and when's it from?! Recently?!
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