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That's what I said on another thread about Lady Gaga:"MJ holds rights on Lady Gaga's songs in his catalogue.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginWhy not imagine he influences her work (which she was said to have admitted already).Why not imagine he actively orchestrates her success?Why not imagine he has many spokespersons now? Lady Gaga may be only one. There are tons of money behind her. She is the most spoiled star since a long time. She is being pushed up.Just a lady from New York night clubs on her way up? No. She is THE star these days and for quite a while still, freaking out everybody. She is the only one who may cross any borders of taste, lie, truth, art and A.I.R. (art is resistance). She is said to be so crazy in public that you would expect everything from her. She's being accepted that way. She has found agreement and acceptance from the public to be that way. Thus she has achieved more freedom on earth than anybody else. She may do or not do whatever she likes. She is also said to be a very nice, kind person. This gives a lot of space for actions and for speculations. Watch her. She will speak the truth more than anybody else because she is so much disguised that nobody will take as personal insult what she's about to say.She is the perfect court jester to mirror our crazyness back to us.She will be THE star for quite a while - and then disappear miraculously or dramatically.Watch for it."I am adding this:I consider her a mirror of the crazyness that has settled in as establishment in the "civilized" world. As such she giving an antipole to the influencial powerful individuals and organizations.She is not puppet of nwo or what some fear. The contrary: she is duping and embarrassing the "upside town".Lady Gaga is brilliant. She is ridiculing them by starring being one of them. It's a double layer storybook. Who looks at her only once from the outside feels disgusted by her frank barefacedness of doing what she does.In fact, she is crossing borders and thus uniting.Her videos are masterpieces. There is a master behind these movies. If you watch them closely, you'll find at least as many clues of what she's really talking about as you found in TII.The brand "Lady Gaga" is extremely well being brought to market. There are people behind her that want to tell something. If this were not the case, they would not put such tremendous effort in the videos and pay attention to so many details and story layers in them.There are brains at work.
You know, I think it's very possible, obviously, that Madame Gaga is indeed an Illuminati product, but at the same time, I noticed something- she never wins ANY awards! If she were for them, wouldn't they be handing them out to her? And she does seem like she's making fun of them- or doing that and showing us at the same time. It would make sense, I think, especially as someone pointed out that she's in MJ's catalogue.. I can just see him using her as the messenger or whatever..
To Believe 777I really don't know what to think about Gaga. She really seems to be a puppet for me. Maybe there are 2 Gagas but when you say that she doesn't like her imagery but still keep on going on with this same imagery there is something that consolidate me in the conclusion that she knows she's being manipulated and that she accepts it. She knows the game and plays it.Beyonce received many Grammys that night because she's in the game together with her husband Jay-Z. They are at a "higher level" that's why she was awarded that much. Maybe Gaga's time has not yet come she has to prove something. There's a kind of ritual to go through first. Do you really think that the way Gaga is expressing herself via her videos, her artistry, will make people aware of what is going on in the music industry ? Many people who follow her are teenagers they don't know what's behind, they just see things at face value and what she shows to them is not leading to reflexion, to awareness. Fans (especially young fans) take these people as their models. This is dangerous. I think that if you really want to expose some truths, to expose an enemy you don't use the exact codes and methods this enemy is using. If Gaga aim is really to expose them (which I still doubt ) this will only have an impact on people who already know about these things, who have sufficient knowledge to decode things, not many people in reality. Gaga is an example of the music industry manipulation process to me. She's like Britney Spears or Christina Aguilera. Just make a comparison between their beginnings and what they have become today. To me it speaks volumes. This is just what I think I can be completely wrong and don't say this is the truth it's just what I feel. I think I'll keep an eye on Gaga to see how things evolve. If I realize that I'm wrong about her I'll admit it. I only search for the truth.God bless you
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"You know, I think it's very possible, obviously, that Madame Gaga is indeed an Illuminati product, but at the same time, I noticed something- she never wins ANY awards! If she were for them, wouldn't they be handing them out to her? And she does seem like she's making fun of them- or doing that and showing us at the same time. It would make sense, I think, especially as someone pointed out that she's in MJ's catalogue.. I can just see him using her as the messenger or whatever..She did win awards. She's won 2 grammy's, for best electronic album and anther one which I can't remember at the moment.She also won a VMA award.
@Sarahli:- I'm not keen on Gaga's music either, but I feel that she is mocking them by being so shockingly 'in your face' with her imagery' and music that she is showing us something. It has been said earlier that she doesn't like her own imagery either, so there must be some reason for her doing this.I think there is a strong link between her and Michael, as well as Travis Payne being her choreographer.It's like she is pushing the boundaries so far because people need to be shocked into seeing what is really going on behind the music industry.I'm sure that the Illuminati would not approve of her being so blatantly expressive. They tend to use blatant symbolism rather than what Gaga is displaying. I may be wrong but I am sure this is normally the case.Here is the grammy performance again, listen to the guys words, I'm sure we are being told something important and he asks for the real Gaga (not the mind control pop culture Lady Gaga), who has been put in the incinerator and then out comes real Gaga with Elton John. IMO.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginThere is such a fine line between exposing them and being their puppet. I really do think that she is the former. The Grammy's reveals this for me.@pinktopaz:- Good point about her not getting awards, are these not usually given to artists who do as they are told. (puppets).
Quote from: "Sarahli"To Believe 777I really don't know what to think about Gaga. She really seems to be a puppet for me. Maybe there are 2 Gagas but when you say that she doesn't like her imagery but still keep on going on with this same imagery there is something that consolidate me in the conclusion that she knows she's being manipulated and that she accepts it. She knows the game and plays it.Beyonce received many Grammys that night because she's in the game together with her husband Jay-Z. They are at a "higher level" that's why she was awarded that much. Maybe Gaga's time has not yet come she has to prove something. There's a kind of ritual to go through first. Do you really think that the way Gaga is expressing herself via her videos, her artistry, will make people aware of what is going on in the music industry ? Many people who follow her are teenagers they don't know what's behind, they just see things at face value and what she shows to them is not leading to reflexion, to awareness. Fans (especially young fans) take these people as their models. This is dangerous. I think that if you really want to expose some truths, to expose an enemy you don't use the exact codes and methods this enemy is using. If Gaga aim is really to expose them (which I still doubt ) this will only have an impact on people who already know about these things, who have sufficient knowledge to decode things, not many people in reality. Gaga is an example of the music industry manipulation process to me. She's like Britney Spears or Christina Aguilera. Just make a comparison between their beginnings and what they have become today. To me it speaks volumes. This is just what I think I can be completely wrong and don't say this is the truth it's just what I feel. I think I'll keep an eye on Gaga to see how things evolve. If I realize that I'm wrong about her I'll admit it. I only search for the truth.God bless youWhat I bolded: it's not that long ago that I was a teen myself, and I think that people tend to underestimate their intelligence a lot- there's a good amount of TV shows on now and plenty of discussions about teen girls and sex and whatnot. They don't just see sex or hear about it in songs and think "I wanna do that!" For instance I adored plenty of Britney/Gaga-type pop music when I was younger (and still pretty much do) mainly for the funky sound of it, but I of course knew that artists just like to glamourize sex and that in real life they, and pretty much women don't just get jiggy with it with some man-ho they barely know.. Most teens that listen to that stuff are still smart girls with good heads on their shoulders. I mean I've always thought that the antics in music videos were a little silly and overdone, and I'm sure most teens just laugh at Gaga or feel a little uncomfortable. It's not hard to know when something isn't appropriate for you and a lot of times it makes you feel pre-etty awkward, not "I wanna be just like her!" Little girls are a concern, but most teens know better..Another thing is that at those ages, romance is important, too- at least to me, just having sex for the hell of it is boring! It means nothing if you don't truly know/care for the person, and most teens know that! Sex is meant to be a passionate affair between two people, and even now I would only want to do at a perfect, unplanned, beautiful moment with a guy I love, you know? Maybe that's just me, but I definitely know that teen girls can be just as romantic..
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