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Re: Michael Isnt coming back
October 05, 2011, 05:42:31 PM
you guys,
after having some doubts myself last week (after seeing that "body" picture) I can only tell what I came to realize: if michael was really dead. it wouldn't be so f***ing complicated!
it's that simple!
when someone dies - and it really doesn't matter how huge of a star he is -  then he is dead, burried, gone. no question about it (just think about amy winehouse - did anyone question her death? was there anything weird about it? nop).
in michael's case, there are just too many things that don't add up. too many.
  :-X
I recently wrote an article (i'm a journalist in israel) about the hoax (I even interviewed souza for it) and I started researching about other celebrties who died and which thier fans believed to have faked their deaths.
well, no one, but NO ONE had so many weird, questionable circumstances - jim morrison, kurt cobain, princess diana, etc. they all died, leaving their fans heart broken, many of them didn't want to believe it, they started looking for clues and odd things. they found some, but hardly enough.   
the only one who comes close to michael is of course elvis, but even in his case, there aren't so many clues and weird things. elvis_/

plus, the most important thing that michael is trying to tell us before and after his "death", and some of you seem to forget it, is not to listen to everything that the media tells us. and as someone who works in the media (in israel, but still), I can tell you from first hand that he is completely right!
instead, listen to what his friends and family are telling us. if teddy riley thinks michael's alive, then I think so too!

so just stop giving yourself a headache with questions and doubts - if michael is coming or not coming back, it's irrelevant (it's not like any of us were his BFF) the FACT is that there's something seriously strange with his "death" and sooner or later, we will have an answer.
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There's A Man
Who Plays The Game Of Life So Well
There's Such A Man
His Thoughts You Can Never Tell
And It's Just The Way He Thought It Would Be
'Cause The Day Has Come For Him To Be Free
Then He Laughs, He Kicks And
Rolls Up His Sleeves
I'm Alive And I'm Here Forever

Re: Michael Isnt coming back
October 05, 2011, 05:53:44 PM
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you guys,
after having some doubts myself last week (after seeing that "body" picture) I can only tell what I came to realize: if michael was really dead. it wouldn't be so f***ing complicated!
it's that simple!
when someone dies - and it really doesn't matter how huge of a star he is -  then he is dead, burried, gone. no question about it (just think about amy winehouse - did anyone question her death? was there anything weird about it? nop).
in michael's case, there are just too many things that don't add up. too many.
  :-X
I recently wrote an article (i'm a journalist in israel) about the hoax (I even interviewed souza for it) and I started researching about other celebrties who died and which thier fans believed to have faked their deaths.
well, no one, but NO ONE had so many weird, questionable circumstances - jim morrison, kurt cobain, princess diana, etc. they all died, leaving their fans heart broken, many of them didn't want to believe it, they started looking for clues and odd things. they found some, but hardly enough.   
the only one who comes close to michael is of course elvis, but even in his case, there aren't so many clues and weird things. elvis_/

plus, the most important thing that michael is trying to tell us before and after his "death", and some of you seem to forget it, is not to listen to everything that the media tells us. and as someone who works in the media (in israel, but still), I can tell you from first hand that he is completely right!
instead, listen to what his friends and family are telling us. if teddy riley thinks michael's alive, then I think so too!

so just stop giving yourself a headache with questions and doubts - if michael is coming or not coming back, it's irrelevant (it's not like any of us were his BFF) the FACT is that there's something seriously strange with his "death" and sooner or later, we will have an answer.

This is some great encouragement and great advice. Thanks for posting this.  /bravo/ ;))
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I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

Re: Michael Isnt coming back
October 05, 2011, 06:01:53 PM
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well, no one, but NO ONE had so many weird, questionable circumstances ...

- that's exactly why I'm here for example - things are way too messy for murder cover up
I started with, just way too messy, sooo..  :roll: we should keep watching!
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Re: Michael Isnt coming back
October 06, 2011, 09:21:52 PM
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First of all we found out that faking your death is not a crime as long as you are not trying to escape from being convicted, or committing insurance fraud etc.  He probably has the help from the FBI or other authorities so it is not a crime.  A lot of information is pointing to the fact that he had to do it to save his life and even to protect his children.   It is more dangerous than you think because it may not be only crooked SONY executives or lawyers, police etc.   As we have learned about the illuminati it could go way up the chain, from the freemasons, to the bilderberger group, bohemian grove, and others from the so called "evil" bloodline.  The military-industrial complex trying to take over the world "New World Order". 

So I think this hoax was to save his life but also to SAVE THE WORLD, and awaken people to the TRUTH about what is going on.  People have to stop the propofol drip and WAKE UP.   I don't think he was taking propofol to sleep.  That is a drug for operations for surgery.   This is a message for us to WAKE UP and seek the TRUTH.  You can't just tell people.  They have to learn it for themselves.

People have to learn that the media and governments are not giving us the whole truth.  They have to learn about all the corruption and evil in the world.  We have to learn about it so we can fix it.  Heal the World, Make that change. 

It is hard because things you thought were real or there for you aren't.  For example Government, Education, Religion, Economics, Science.  We were not given complete, correct, and completely true information.   There is a lot of mind control and manipulation.   Seek the truth so we can heal the world.  Also, you have to do it with Peace and Love.  That is the only way it will work.

Also, an additional reason for this hoax may be related to the new age of peace starting on December 21, 2012.  I don't think it is a coincidence that this date keeps popping up.  I think it is planned.    This is also the same date as the Mayan Calendar, Sumerian calendar, given by Nostradamus, and talked about by current scientists.  This is the date when the planets will all be lined up and earth will be in the center of the milky way.  This only happens every 26,000 or so years !!!!!!   I think he has been trying to tell us for years.  Listen to the song "Another part of me", and "We are here to change the World", and there are pictures of the milky way and planets and stars and spaceships etc.   all over the place.  So, the prediction is that earth will receive more energy and we will enter a new age of consciousness and peace.  He is getting us ready for it.  It won't work if we keep up the hate, fear, greed, evil and violence.     
Also, there are songs, symbols and art about the corrupt government, illuminati, and police all over his stuff.  Watch both videos for "They don't care about us".  One is in brazil or somewhere where they had the SLAVE TRADE, and one is in a prison.   Also, watch the video of the panther dance where he is fighting the KKK, and other groups.   He has been saying to fight this evil for a long time.

People think it is just entertainment but it is a lot more.  I think he had to fake his death so people would FINALLY PAY ATTENTION and LISTEN, and LEARN and SEEK THE TRUTH.   He can't do it by himself.

I don't know if he will come back physically or not but that is not what is important.  The messages are important.  The evil party did not want him to spread his messages so that is why they gave him a hard time, tried to put him in prison, and probably wanted him dead.    Help him by spreading the messages and learning. penguin/   LOVE  and PEACE     


THIS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE!!!!!!! Makes my day feel a lot better! /bravo/ #NowPlaying "Tabloid Junkie".  moonwalk_/
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I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

Re: Michael Isnt coming back
October 06, 2011, 10:16:51 PM
I totally believe he is alive and in witness protection for now.  But I don't know how he can ever actually come back because the people who wanted him dead will still want him dead.....they can't arrest everyone!  I bet Tom Sneddon is LHAO....but I'd love to see his face IF MJ actually does come back! 
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Re: Michael Isnt coming back
October 17, 2011, 10:06:51 AM
Not gonna say anything new, and not being negative and all, but Michael won't come back. IF he is alive...
Those trolls, who sent Mopey a message about Michael that he's alive, ok and very sorry, are real bithces. Karma will get you sooner or later. Mark my words.
Again, Michael won't come back because 1. he doesn't need to/shouldn't. He's finally getting his rest. 2. If he does, all those haters will crucify him. 3. Otherwise, all his family would just look ridiculous. All those tears, tributes, etc...
Elvis never came back. I know, I know - Elvis and Michael are different people, but still. Officially Michael won't come back like - "Hello! Guess, who's back?! It's me - Michael F****** Jackson! Please honour and love." No. I think he'll just continue giving somekind of signs.
And again, I'm not being pessimistic - just realistic.
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Re: Michael Isnt coming back
October 17, 2011, 10:17:08 AM
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Not gonna say anything new, and not being negative and all, but Michael won't come back. IF he is alive...
Those trolls, who sent Mopey a message about Michael that he's alive, ok and very sorry, are real bithces. Karma will get you sooner or later. Mark my words.
Again, Michael won't come back because 1. he doesn't need to/shouldn't. He's finally getting his rest. 2. If he does, all those haters will crucify him. 3. Otherwise, all his family would just look ridiculous. All those tears, tributes, etc...
Elvis never came back. I know, I know - Elvis and Michael are different people, but still. Officially Michael won't come back like - "Hello! Guess, who's back?! It's me - Michael F****** Jackson! Please honour and love." No. I think he'll just continue giving somekind of signs.
And again, I'm not being pessimistic - just realistic.

I think you're one of those people who just wants to move on and hear nothing about it, that's pessismistic, dear. No way around it.
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"You better lose yourself in the music, the moment you own it, you better never let it go, you only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow, this opportunity comes once in a lifetime."

Re: Michael Isnt coming back
October 17, 2011, 10:32:32 AM
 /pull hair/


Jeez, there is so much proof that he ISN"T dead....show me proof that he is dead...


1. Have you seen his body? Nobody has. Why is it that we can visit Liz Taylor's grave, we can visit Frank Sinatra's grave, Sammy Davis JR all buried in the same cemetary...but they have his locked up like Fort Knox? Grave robbers? Give me a break.

2. the casket used at both the private and public memorials has proven to be 2 DIFFERENT caskets...did he decide one wasn't nice enough and jump into the 2nd one?  WTF??

3. He feared for his life. He thought someone was out to kill him, why not disappear?

4. Jermaine's slip ups? "This is not it"...." I took Michael to the airport....err hospital"..."I know where he is"...

5. Katharine and Joe did NOT see Michael in UCLA...Katharine stayed in the waiting room...sorry, if that was my son, I would have wanted to see my son ONE last time...that indication right there proves something is going on...

6. Crime scene was tampered with


We have posted enough clues and knowledge here for anyone to reevaluate their "death" opinion.

If he comes back, super. If he doesn't, thats fine too...but he isn't dead...and I've already bet money that the trial is fake, Murray will come out innocent, there will be a civil suit filed that we may never know the outcome of...

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Re: Michael Isnt coming back
October 17, 2011, 02:20:12 PM
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Last Edit: October 17, 2011, 02:39:43 PM by Love4MJ
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Give, but don't allow yourself to be used.
Love, but don't allow your heart to ...be abused.
Trust, but don't be naive.
Listen to others, but don't lose your own voice ...

Re: Michael Isnt coming back
October 17, 2011, 02:30:01 PM
He has to...Do you really think that he would live the rest of his live hidden somewhere and far away from his kids/family????
No way..he will stay away until it will be necessary and then he will be back. If not I would  reconsider the whole thing... :!:
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Re: Michael Isnt coming back
October 17, 2011, 02:47:52 PM
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He has to...Do you really think that he would live the rest of his live hidden somewhere and far away from his kids/family????
No way..he will stay away until it will be necessary and then he will be back. If not I would  reconsider the whole thing... :!:

Michael never left his Children.
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Re: Michael Isnt coming back
October 17, 2011, 03:03:19 PM
Mike is alive and he will come back bearhug with its time..... has told him...... bearhug




And we will be here waiting....... bearhug












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Re: Michael Isnt coming back
October 17, 2011, 03:21:00 PM
@Raikiramari:
"Michael never left his children", what do you mean?
It is obvious that he didn't because he is alive, but (unless he is well hidden at his parents' place in Encino) they don't live together, there is much that he is loosing about them, and you'd agree that even if they're in touch someway it couldn't be the same as living together...

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Re: Michael Isnt coming back
October 17, 2011, 04:02:26 PM
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Not gonna say anything new, and not being negative and all, but Michael won't come back. IF he is alive...
Those trolls, who sent Mopey a message about Michael that he's alive, ok and very sorry, are real bithces. Karma will get you sooner or later. Mark my words.
Again, Michael won't come back because 1. he doesn't need to/shouldn't. He's finally getting his rest. 2. If he does, all those haters will crucify him. 3. Otherwise, all his family would just look ridiculous. All those tears, tributes, etc...
Elvis never came back. I know, I know - Elvis and Michael are different people, but still. Officially Michael won't come back like - "Hello! Guess, who's back?! It's me - Michael F****** Jackson! Please honour and love." No. I think he'll just continue giving somekind of signs.
And again, I'm not being pessimistic - just realistic.

I think you're one of those people who just wants to move on and hear nothing about it, that's pessismistic, dear. No way around it.

Amen to that. This person is talking like an insider like they know all the in's and out's of MJ's brain and perhaps the circumstances and or consequences of MJ's supposedly return. If he DOES actually come back, only his true believers will know the reason for his faking his death....HENCE the reason for leaving clues and us believers doing research. It's not like he's going to get into legal trouble for faking his death. For all we know, the legal system could be in on it and on MJ's side. For those who would "crucify" him, it's nothing new to MJ so I'm sure he wouldn't be surprised. This hoax isn't only for his safety and to expose the criminals, but to test how strong his TRUE fans really are AND to show his haters the FACTS regardless of the accusations. #NUFFSAID

I'm not trying to sound rude in response to the creator of this thread BUT it shouldn't suprise the host of this sub that believers would have something to say about their theory of what they would call "reality". It's almost like a craving for further enlightment OR a craving for negative attention...and that's not too cool. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN BELIEFS AND OR OPINION don't get me wrong, but I would suggest checking the aura of the forum before speaking otherwise. It's just common courtsey , common sense, and common logic. :)
Last Edit: October 17, 2011, 04:07:39 PM by alfarle
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I turned 6 yrs old when MJ released the Smooth Criminal single. The 24th will be a very special b-day this yr....:) I'll be 29. Subtract 9-2 and what do you get???? lol Lucky #'s . Last yr in my 20's....

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Re: Michael Isnt coming back
October 17, 2011, 04:15:35 PM
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@Raikiramari:
"Michael never left his children", what do you mean?
It is obvious that he didn't because he is alive, but (unless he is well hidden at his parents' place in Encino) they don't live together, there is much that he is loosing about them, and you'd agree that even if they're in touch someway it couldn't be the same as living together...

Michael never left his Children, plain and simple. Michael is able to visit his Children, or even live with his Children for short periods of time.

If I've realized anything since 2009, is that the Money Withdrawals (Which was $5 Million) were given to the Jackson Family by Thome Thome Michael's advisor.
The Press have been paid, since they have money and can keep receiving it, there's nothing they can do really.

Ever noticed how shady the press have been since Michael's death, hardly any Camera crews as before following the Jackson Family, sure there's plenty of interviews but that doesn't quite cut it. There's something going on, I know for sure Michael is with his Children.
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