Tatiana and MJ and THAT KISS!!! Why Hide it? WHO? WHY?

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Tatiana and MJ and THAT KISS!!! Why Hide it? WHO? WHY?

  • on: January 23, 2010, 01:22:59 PM
Why oh why have they hidden the video of THAT kiss between MJ and Tatiana during the Bad concert?

The only footage we have is this:

[youtube:2p44fgn3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr-CH4OXOKo&feature=related[/youtube:2p44fgn3]

So we know TV cameras were there and filmed the whole thing in Kansas.  So who has the footage and why is it being witheld?

I cant fathom it...  its as if MJ kissing a girl on stage is the worst thing anyone could see!   :lol:   Why is Michael or his people hiding it when all the fans want to see it!!!!!   I want to see it so i can see MJs reaction to it.. whether it really was a one way thing, if MJ really did bite his lip and if it was a full on snog that MJ went into full throttle.   :lol:   I want to see if MJ looked happy or annoyed.

Aargh.. anyone know why this footage has disappeared?

Tatiana talks of the kiss in this video:  I feel for her, she seems to have been deeply affected by her love for MJ and never seemed to get over it.  Unrequited love really does hurt.  Poor girl.

Look at the way he looks at her at 01:05!

[youtube:2p44fgn3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GjMhedYVAg&feature=related[/youtube:2p44fgn3]

[youtube:2p44fgn3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjNgx8xe3Nw[/youtube:2p44fgn3]
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OMG..  i just found this.. Im getting nearer.  You can HEAR the kiss.

[youtube:2q01edvj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1ITnvLzO4s[/youtube:2q01edvj]
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This video blends the audio with the video we do have,... the kiss is DEFINITELY CUT OFF AND DELETED!

[youtube:1dit82c2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUFuWIu7u30[/youtube:1dit82c2]
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I didn't know anything about Tatiana before this forum.  Actually, the only time you see MJ kissing a girl is when he kissed Lisa Marie.  It is strange that they have  hid the kiss!! The only reason I can think of, and it is far-fetched, is that they did not want to offend his gay fans (remember the Bashir interview).  That remark has always puzzled me.  Does MJ have a big gay following?  I thought women were crazy about him.  Or maybe it was against his religion. But Tatiana says Katherine approved of her. She was invited to the private funeral. This is interesting.
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Someone has it and they are hiding it!!   See how good MJ and his people are at hiding things?
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Quote from: "liegi"
I didn't know anything about Tatiana before this forum.  Actually, the only time you see MJ kissing a girl is when he kissed Lisa Marie.  It is strange that they have  hid the kiss!! The only reason I can think of, and it is far-fetched, is that they did not want to offend his gay fans (remember the Bashir interview).  That remark has always puzzled me.  Does MJ have a big gay following?  I thought women were crazy about him.  Or maybe it was against his religion. But Tatiana says Katherine approved of her. She was invited to the private funeral. This is interesting.
That is not why they hid the kiss, they hid it because MJ and Tatiana liked each other but Michael never mixed buissness with pleasure he even said in moonwalk he didn't like when women would fall for him and become unprofessional, also michael had a crush on her and really liked her and his mother even tried to hook then up but she got kicked of the tour by Frankie for kissing him on stage because she became unprofessional her excuse was "he bit his lip as if to challenge me " honey he bites his lip all the time if that's what it meant then women would be kissing that man like crazy, anyways, she got kicked off the tour by Frankie because Frankie didn't want her being unprofessional, and he didn't want michael in a relationship at the time because he wanted Michael's focus on his music only.
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@Jacksongirl..  but why hide it now?  After all these years.  I want to see it.. i want to see if MJ looks like he is happy and if it is a one way kiss or a recipricated thing.  In the audio you can hear him chuckling as if he is happy.
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Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
@Jacksongirl..  but why hide it now?  After all these years.  I want to see it.. i want to see if MJ looks like he is happy and if it is a one way kiss or a recipricated thing.  In the audio you can hear him chuckling as if he is happy.
it has always been hidden lol they never showed it to the public, we've heard about it from Tatiana , but the video was never released they got rid of it right away.
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I have the video from the performance.. its the first one i posted...  but the kiss is cut.
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I have the video from the performance.. its the first one i posted...  but the kiss is cut.
yes thats what im trying to say it was cut out right away, because the management fired her and didnt want that getting out , because it was unprofessional. tatiana talks about it but you can never find it on dvd or any videos because they got rid of it
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:cry:  :cry:
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That is not why they hid the kiss, they hid it because MJ and Tatiana liked each other but Michael never mixed buissness with pleasure he even said in moonwalk he didn't like when women would fall for him and become unprofessional, also michael had a crush on her and really liked her and his mother even tried to hook then up but she got kicked of the tour by Frankie for kissing him on stage because she became unprofessional her excuse was "he bit his lip as if to challenge me " honey he bites his lip all the time if that's what it meant then women would be kissing that man like crazy, anyways, she got kicked off the tour by Frankie because Frankie didn't want her being unprofessional, and he didn't want michael in a relationship at the time because he wanted Michael's focus on his music only.[/quote]
Thanks for explaining what happened. So they really liked each other! Tatiana came on too strong, spoiling her chances for a relationship (I remember her saying she wanted to change the routine a bit, that must have upset someone).  Well, that's too bad. She seemed to have genuinely liked him, even to this day.
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Quote from: "liegi"
That is not why they hid the kiss, they hid it because MJ and Tatiana liked each other but Michael never mixed buissness with pleasure he even said in moonwalk he didn't like when women would fall for him and become unprofessional, also michael had a crush on her and really liked her and his mother even tried to hook then up but she got kicked of the tour by Frankie for kissing him on stage because she became unprofessional her excuse was "he bit his lip as if to challenge me " honey he bites his lip all the time if that's what it meant then women would be kissing that man like crazy, anyways, she got kicked off the tour by Frankie because Frankie didn't want her being unprofessional, and he didn't want michael in a relationship at the time because he wanted Michael's focus on his music only.
Thanks for explaining what happened. So they really liked each other! Tatiana came on too strong, spoiling her chances for a relationship (I remember her saying she wanted to change the routine a bit, that must have upset someone).  Well, that's too bad. She seemed to have genuinely liked him, even to this day.[/quote]
yes thats right she is still madly in love with him, but he simply didn;t mix the two, he liked her his mom even admitted he loved her but nothing happened because she was kicked off the tour for being unprofessional and then after that they lost touch. but his family really liked her and in my opinion i think shes ten times better than LMP no offense im not an LMP fan i think her personality stinks :P lol
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I thought even MJ agreed with Tatiana being fired because he thought she was taking advantage of the trust he gave her. But IDK it was what I heard and maybe he chuckled because at the time he wasn't that comfrotable with a lot of things and that was more a nervous laugh??? We know that MJ in the time on the BAD tour wasn't the same that in the History tour, he was far more confident at the time he kissed LMP in public.
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Quote from: "jonnysgirldangerous"
I thought even MJ agreed with Tatiana being fired because he thought she was taking advantage of the trust he gave her. But IDK it was what I heard and maybe he chuckled because at the time he wasn't that comfrotable with a lot of things and that was more a nervous laugh??? We know that MJ in the time on the BAD tour wasn't the same that in the History tour, he was far more confident at the time he kissed LMP in public.
No he never said anything and he didn;t have much control over the situation, but he was sad to see her get fired cause he liked her, but he didn;t mix , if you were hired to be professional, then thats what he wanted to to remain, Michael didn;t like girls becoming unprofessional towards him.
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OK.  Here's my take on all of this.

Tatiana was hired to do a job...period.
She took it a bit too far and lost sight of the fact that although she was performing with MJ, she was there to do a job and be professional.
It was rehearsed and she knew what to do.
To decide on her own to change it up a little was a  mistake and it cost her.

However, to be fired over it was harsh.  A reprimand would have sufficed.  DeLeo, IMO, didn't want ANYONE to stand in the way of his fortune even though it could have brought a little bit of normalcy to Michael's life.
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We all saw in tii how profesional michael was when he was performing I was surprised it showed the firm but kind side he was in controll all the time and people did asthey were told  it was good to see I always had this vision of him being pushed about and being bossed about but the film showed the business side the performer in him    maybe that was why the kiss was cut it must have been micheals call
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I've always wanted to see that kiss, well a bit more lately since I was about 1 or 2 years old when it actually happened  :lol:  I wanna see the kiss! He is gorgeous and so was she it must be a beautiful sight  :D
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they are friends to this day she was at fake funeral its ok guys i like herxxx :)
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[youtube:13flav9k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgq-o9SDhf8[/youtube:13flav9k]

Now you sort of can see THE kiss haha
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Quote from: "Missyb007"
[youtube:q19j0w1z]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgq-o9SDhf8[/youtube:q19j0w1z]

Now you sort of can see THE kiss haha


I just repeated it 5 times, LOL!
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I heard that Tat admitted to making everything up. She liked him and he liked her, yes, but anything was false.


how about this!!!! Hes so funny..he cant even sing!!!

[youtube:2jxh3b6e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcKgnksz3RM[/youtube:2jxh3b6e]
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@thejacksonologist.. that is so funny.  Especiallly when she says "i love you" into the microphone.. you can see MJ cracking up with laughter.   :lol:

I had a thought about the Tatiana kiss.   MJ has the footage, right...  he has kept it just like he kept the Pepsi burn footage and didnt release it.
But the Pepsi footage got leaked after his "death"... so i think at some point the Tatiana kiss will get leaked.
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@thejacksonologist.. that is so funny.  Especiallly when she says "i love you" into the microphone.. you can see MJ cracking up with laughter.   :lol:

I had a thought about the Tatiana kiss.   MJ has the footage, right...  he has kept it just like he kept the Pepsi burn footage and didnt release it.
But the Pepsi footage got leaked after his "death"... so i think at some point the Tatiana kiss will get leaked.


I know!! I think he was into her.....

I dont know if that kiss will be released.....there would be no reason for it to be released. The Pepsi footage at least had some bearing on his "death"...to make us believe he was addicted...the kiss...IDK what grounds he would have to release that....I hope he does though!
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