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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 23, 2010, 08:11:49 PM
Never heard another peep from the person who supposedly hoaxed this video.  Why?  Because he was more than likely handsomely paid to shut the hell up.
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Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
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You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 23, 2010, 08:20:08 PM
I think it's real too.
I think whoever shot the video leaked it and got bitched out by Michael's camp.
That's when RTL came in and said, "LOL GUYZ WE FAKED IT!!!!"

No...no you didn't.
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 23, 2010, 08:29:44 PM
Quote from: "letstalkagain"
I was thinking that the video of Mj jumping out of a van, is probaly correct.  Because why in the world
would RTL spend a great deal of money to make the video.  I mean the  van, the artwork, the guards, the
coroners area,.  Why ? This was not a simple video to make, it called for technical people to carry it out.
Get a van, decorate it, get decals,the license plates, everything had to be customized, and customizatiomn is definitely not cheap.  C"mon people. Why would grown men 40 plus do this,a group of 20 years old probaly, but it still would require some big dollars.     There was no money made off of it, for them, so it makes no sense to me at all, other than it probaly is for real.   After the authentic video was leaked, they made a fake video on how they did it,to cover up, the real video that was leaked.

Yeah I think that video was real too.  That look just like MJ.  The excuse they gave for making the video is really silly.  They said they made it to prove how fast rumors spread over the internet.  Well duh? :roll:   We already know that so why prove something that people already know.  That's just common sense.  People ain't stupid.  We know everything that is presented on the internet is not true and spreads fast.  That's such a lame excuse to make a video like this please. :roll:  I wouldn't be suprised if MJ himself was a part of that being released.  He's put his own rumors out in the past to mess with people.  I read one of Kim Kardasian's tweets and she even thought the video might be real.  She was like OMG do you think MJ is still alive and she even went to his memorial.  So even a celebrity that knew MJ questions his death.  Ain't that something? :lol:
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 23, 2010, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: "mirandacnc"
but WHY would he get out of the van?? wouldnt he be long gone? i mean if he wanted to pull this off?? i dont get it? :?  :?


Maybe there was some last things that had to be done...just like fingerprints....talking about what they should tell and what not?
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 24, 2010, 01:01:22 AM
Plus, 40-50 year old men, using their talents to make aq youriube video. C'mon i have friends that are
heating, and genberal contractors, and if their is no money they will not get off of their butts to use their talents.  So if their was no money, why do it ?  Just like you said it was damage control, and someone had to pay someone some serious dollars, to get all of those painting, and licensing techs off of their butts !!
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 24, 2010, 05:21:11 AM
Quote from: "SEHF"
I also believe the van video was real. The overhead helicopter video showing of the van going into the building you can clearly see someone run, literally run, right into the tunnel just after the van pulls in.
do u have a link to this video or the hoax video made regarding this? curious to see..still undecided if its fake or not, but u all have some very good points
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 24, 2010, 05:27:21 AM
Quote from: "willeyd"
Quote from: "SEHF"
I also believe the van video was real. The overhead helicopter video showing of the van going into the building you can clearly see someone run, literally run, right into the tunnel just after the van pulls in.
do u have a link to this video or the hoax video made regarding this? curious to see..still undecided if its fake or not, but u all have some very good points

Just go to youtube and type in Michael Jackson alive jumping out of van and it should pop up unless they deleted the video.  There's all kinds of videos on youtube about him being alive.
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 24, 2010, 05:44:02 AM
Quote from: "letstalkagain"
Plus, 40-50 year old men, using their talents to make aq youriube video. C'mon i have friends that are
heating, and genberal contractors, and if their is no money they will not get off of their butts to use their talents.  So if their was no money, why do it ?  Just like you said it was damage control, and someone had to pay someone some serious dollars, to get all of those painting, and licensing techs off of their butts !!

That's a great point!  Why would seasoned professionals, as pictured in the rebuttal video, go to all that trouble?  It doesn't make any sense.  I think what happened is that the video leaked, it received a tremendous response, even on major media, and so the rebuttal video was made to cover up. Notice that they haven't done that with any other hoax videos. Now why's that?
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 24, 2010, 05:51:47 AM
The reason why I believe the FIRST van video is real:

RTL is trying TOO hard to make it LOOK like a fake one  :D
Actually I have to admit they did a "great" job but it just doesn't makes sense, why make a video to prove you made the video :D you know what I mean? that's just S.T.U.P.I.D. don't you think?

That's the same thing with the making of of the making of of the concerts  :lol:
everytime I hear that, I can't help myself but I really burst into a big laugh  :D

So now we've got 2  vids to laugh about:

The making of of the making of of the van video
The making of of the making of of the concert tour


I wonder what's next?  :roll:
The making of of the making of of the fake your death? :lol:
Maybe there's another part too! "The making of of the making of of "fake your death for dummies"  :lol:

I mean shamone!( :lol: ), how can you make a making of of something that already WAS a making of? ...sooo uhm yes I'm a bit confused
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 24, 2010, 06:05:42 AM
Can anyone please explain the diferent form of the letter R on the van, bcause that is the only thing that remains in the way for me to believe it is indeed real :(
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 24, 2010, 06:13:39 AM
Quote from: "raphaelleanique"
Can anyone please explain the diferent form of the letter R on the van, bcause that is the only thing that remains in the way for me to believe it is indeed real :(

Thats an easy question :) It's a different FONT, that's why the 1st and the second are different :)
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 24, 2010, 01:59:37 PM
And another thing about the "Making of"_Video that is questionable:

They have actors and people for everything in this video: A Bodyguard, "Michael", the buddy who  prepared the Van etc.

BUT:

WHO IS THE CAMERAMAN?

I saw a lot of RTL Making of Blah blahs, and they always showed everyone who's involved in the making of that, but not here!

They didn't show the person who "acted" as the cameraman!

HA! FAKE!
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 25, 2010, 02:35:13 AM
Quote from: "Missyb007"
Quote from: "raphaelleanique"
Can anyone please explain the diferent form of the letter R on the van, bcause that is the only thing that remains in the way for me to believe it is indeed real :(

Thats an easy question :) It's a different FONT, that's why the 1st and the second are different :)



I know that it is a different font, but the R on both the first vanvideo and the making of are the same. If you compare these to the van where MJ is loaded in near the helicopter, the one that drives in that big garage, you can see a different R . I think I´ll have to get the pics. But actually there was a big thread on this on the old forum, directly after the making of came out. Gonna have a look at that once more. ;)
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 27, 2010, 05:53:20 PM
The filming through a wire mesh fence in the Cebu prison video reminds me of the filming through the fence in the coroner van video.
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 27, 2010, 07:59:39 PM
I love watching Michael jump out of that van.  It's the last piece of LIVE footage we have on him before he left the building.
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

 

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