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I believe the van video was real and why
January 21, 2010, 10:38:29 PM
I was thinking that the video of Mj jumping out of a van, is probaly correct.  Because why in the world
would RTL spend a great deal of money to make the video.  I mean the  van, the artwork, the guards, the
coroners area,.  Why ? This was not a simple video to make, it called for technical people to carry it out.
Get a van, decorate it, get decals,the license plates, everything had to be customized, and customizatiomn is definitely not cheap.  C"mon people. Why would grown men 40 plus do this,a group of 20 years old probaly, but it still would require some big dollars.     There was no money made off of it, for them, so it makes no sense to me at all, other than it probaly is for real.   After the authentic video was leaked, they made a fake video on how they did it,to cover up, the real video that was leaked.
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 21, 2010, 10:43:32 PM
You know, there is a photo of Michael in PJ's standing behind a white van.  I think that the guy standing beside him is the fellow that took the ambulance photo.  That photo (which i do not have on my computer-- maybe someone else will have it) always reminds me of the coroner's van video.
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 22, 2010, 12:29:27 AM
I also feel that the van video is real.  The one thing about it that I couldn't figure out is 'why wouldn't MJ have a getaway car waiting for him in that garage?'  The only answer that came to mind was that a visit to the coroner's office was necessary; for fingerprinting (which was later made a big deal of in another video) and possibly, a few fake autopsy photos.  In addition, I'm sure the coroner was rewarded for his role in the hoax as well.  The RTL was nothing more than DAMAGE CONTROL.  We may NEVER know who REALLY shot the original footage, IMO.  I posted all of this on Annie's blog a while back...we miss YOU! :D
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 22, 2010, 01:56:22 PM
I also believe the van video was real. The overhead helicopter video showing of the van going into the building you can clearly see someone run, literally run, right into the tunnel just after the van pulls in.
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 22, 2010, 02:14:51 PM
I'm inclined to believe it's real as well.

I mean, as posted, why go through the trouble to "fake" that video?

Then go through it all over again to PROVE that it's fake?!?!?  :lol:

And for the record - the 2nd video "proving" that 1st video is "fake" looks faker than the original video.   :lol:
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 22, 2010, 02:31:22 PM
The video that Maura's done about this subject was great !
Have you seen it ? I don't know if the van's video is real but it could be.
Maybe he did this to stir things up ! and to awaken our curiosity..
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 22, 2010, 02:52:49 PM
It does make you wonder why they would have gone to all that trouble to release a rebuttal video.  It really  makes no sense at all.  However, the video was shown on regular media networks and laid a lot of suspicion on the "death".  So I agree that the van video could have been real and that the RTL version was damage control.  Now, how do we prove it? Maura already has done some excellent work.  The thing that impressed me the most on her video was she showed how the columns in the two sequences are at a different distance.  Well, maybe this warrants a more thorough investigation.  What made you think about this possibility?
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 23, 2010, 04:51:23 AM
Quote from: "virgo75"
I'm inclined to believe it's real as well.

I mean, as posted, why go through the trouble to "fake" that video?

Then go through it all over again to PROVE that it's fake?!?!?  :lol:

And for the record - the 2nd video "proving" that 1st video is "fake" looks faker than the original video.   :lol:

I think the reason is for "damage control ".
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 23, 2010, 02:32:08 PM
I BELIEVE.
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 23, 2010, 02:36:10 PM
When the van video, I do not know .....You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 23, 2010, 02:41:06 PM
The thing that got me convinced about the video was, that the person who is supposed to have filmed it, breaths almost normal UNTILL he sees Michael. Then he starts to almost hyperventilate ( I would have done that too ! ) and breath like he is almost scared.It could be fake of cause, but I dont think so.
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 23, 2010, 02:42:42 PM
I do not know, I can not judge .....You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 23, 2010, 07:41:53 PM
Quote from: "Tina K."
The thing that got me convinced about the video was, that the person who is supposed to have filmed it, breaths almost normal UNTILL he sees Michael. Then he starts to almost hyperventilate ( I would have done that too ! ) and breath like he is almost scared.It could be fake of cause, but I dont think so.



There's another thing about the making of and the Van video, that doesnt make sense:

In the making of, they're explaing how they prepared the van with the sirens on it. They just put in on the van, without fixing it on the van ( yes, THEY ARE SAYING THAT!). So then, in the van Video, we can see, the van is driving....and it would be logical, if it would be the fake van, that the sirens would fall off the van right?? BUT IT DOESN'T!!  Because the video is real!
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 23, 2010, 08:04:16 PM
I also think it's real ..  :roll:
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Re: I believe the van video was real and why
January 23, 2010, 08:09:30 PM
but WHY would he get out of the van?? wouldnt he be long gone? i mean if he wanted to pull this off?? i dont get it? :?  :?
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