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Re: A phone call from America
January 17, 2010, 07:59:36 PM
umm okay  , i m  interested about her opinion,  waiting anxiously for your post
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Re: A phone call from America
January 17, 2010, 09:00:34 PM
Quote from: "Suzi~Ses~Its~Right"
I can post her thoeries as long as some people understand that this is no way factual or even close to a clue that she may know something.
Ok she personally does not believe Murry is a qualified cardiologist but thats just her personal opinion.
if and that is a very big IF it is true that murry administered Propofol to MJ then it was wrong from the very start, she does not believe the propofol would have killed him had murry been a qulified cardiologist who should as a cardiologist had a broad knowledge of that drug, if the death is true, then you have a man with little medical knowledge of anaesthetic type drug supplying MJ without the right medical eqipment, even the small amount murrey claims to have given him, could have killed him in the hands of an unproffesional. like she said Propofol is one of the safest drugs used in a hospital. plus the cocktail of drugs murrey claims to have given MJ in that night she said no doctor would risk giving any patient such a leathal concoction well no qualified doctor would. Its hard for me to put it the way she did as im not medically trained. but like i said i asked her opinion as a doctor.
summing up she said if Murry is a doctor then no she does not believe MJ has gone. If murrey is a fake with little medical knowledge then yes it's a big possibility. Nothing new there that we dont already know really
hope that makes sense

I think your cousin is right and possibly they made sure that all the media knew all the drug cocktail that MJ recieved that night, so any qualified person would come to the conclusion that it was indeed what killed MJ without any further speculation. But it's strange that we could know everything Murray gave to MJ that day and the amount of dosis and all that, but everything that happened in the hospital is so secretive. I think everything is part of the plan.

And on the other side is very strange that nobody, not even one real person, has said anything that happened that day in UCLA. It's not like MJ was in the hospital all by himself, and I think people is afraid to talk maybe after some disclosure contract (?) like the ones actors sign before being in a movie. That if the plot or the details come up to the media they have to pay millions for breaking the contract. Millions that I'm sure any doctor or nurse or any other worker in the hospital can't really pay.
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juliet

Re: A phone call from America
January 17, 2010, 09:22:04 PM
Thanks for sharing.  I think you're cousin is placed in a very awkward position as a staff of UCLA.  Most probably she would want to talk to you, plain conversation like cousin to cousin, but I don't think she can.

If the facts of JUNE 25 were all true, then the conversation would have been like a question and answer thing. But it's obvious that everything should be kept under the hat. No questions/answers to why/how/when/where, but people will just talk about what we/they are fed with through the media.

Thanks again for sharing.
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Re: A phone call from America
January 17, 2010, 09:43:00 PM
Thanks for your post.  It does lead me to believe that all employees of the hospital were given strict direction they could not comment on anything to do with the day Michael Jackson was brought in.  It sounds like the employees suspect it was a hoax.
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Re: A phone call from America
January 17, 2010, 10:34:43 PM
That sounds promising.  I think I would probably lose my job if I worked there.Frankly, I KNOW I would.
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Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
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You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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Re: A phone call from America
January 17, 2010, 10:38:17 PM
What I do find odd is that as someone just mentioned if Murray is a true cardiologist..then surley he knew not to give MJ all the other sedatives in addition to the propofol during the time frame he administered them right?  What real experienced cardiologist would even do something like that! THere is noooo way he should have gave MJ those drugs. No way. If he is a fake doctor then definitley he didnt know what the bleep he was doing in the first place..! :evil: But then would MJ even waste his time dealing with a fake doc. when he had access to sleep specialist all over the world? It just doesnt make sense! That is why I am soooo anxious to see the outcome of this case which is dragging on for entirley tooo long.
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Re: A phone call from America
January 17, 2010, 10:41:36 PM
Murray is a witch doctor.  I'm convinced of that.
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

Re: A phone call from America
January 18, 2010, 12:04:54 AM
:shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o
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Re: A phone call from America
January 18, 2010, 12:17:46 AM
Hi - I work in a very well known medical facility (not in California).  We have several high profile patients that we treat regularly (No, I'm not a physician).  There are very strict confidentiality laws in place. Not only Federal and State laws, but also policies for the hospital.  Our IT department monitors patient information to see who's been viewing the information and anyone looking at a person's information without reason will be fired on the spot.  This has even happened. Taking that to UCLA - they probably have the same policies in place which is why everyone is so secretive.  I know this seems odd that nobody would talk but it's possible that only a select few really know what happened and the rest is just speculation. If those select few said what they knew they could be sued big time.  I find it very interesting what the doctor said because of her medical knowledge. And, I find what the porter said to be even more interesting.  Hmmmm....I don't know where to post next bit of info but I was looking at business licenses in California and I stumbled across this one. Notice the date it was filed is October 27, 2009.  I'm not sure what to make of this - any ideas?

LP/LLC
MICHAEL JACKSON AND DR. STEVEN HOEFFLIN, M.D. INNOVATIVE CHILD POVERTY PROGRAM, LLC, THE
Number: 200930110110    Date Filed: 10/27/2009    Status: active
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Address
149 S BARRINGTON AVE #215
LOS ANGELES, CA 90049
Agent for Service of Process
PAMELA HOEFFLIN
149 S BARRINGTON AVE #215
LOS ANGELES, CA 90049
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Re: A phone call from America
January 18, 2010, 01:21:08 AM
Hi - I work in a very well known medical facility (not in California).  We have several high profile patients that we treat regularly (No, I'm not a physician).  There are very strict confidentiality laws in place. Not only Federal and State laws, but also policies for the hospital.  Our IT department monitors patient information to see who's been viewing the information and anyone looking at a person's information without reason will be fired on the spot.  This has even happened. Taking that to UCLA - they probably have the same policies in place which is why everyone is so secretive.  I know this seems odd that nobody would talk but it's possible that only a select few really know what happened and the rest is just speculation. If those select few said what they knew they could be sued big time.  I find it very interesting what the doctor said because of her medical knowledge. And, I find what the porter said to be even more interesting.  Hmmmm....I don't know where to post next bit of info but I was looking at business licenses in California and I stumbled across this one. Notice the date it was filed is October 27, 2009.  I'm not sure what to make of this - any ideas?

LP/LLC
MICHAEL JACKSON AND DR. STEVEN HOEFFLIN, M.D. INNOVATIVE CHILD POVERTY PROGRAM, LLC, THE
Number: 200930110110    Date Filed: 10/27/2009    Status: active
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Address
149 S BARRINGTON AVE #215
LOS ANGELES, CA 90049
Agent for Service of Process
PAMELA HOEFFLIN
149 S BARRINGTON AVE #215
LOS ANGELES, CA 90049

Now this really is a find WOW!!  The doctor was simply imolying through her porter co worker that she believes it is a hoax with a diversion, (get away) made by Michael.
But......, did Dr Hoeflin get sued or is trying to sue Dr Klien ??  Soimething was going on between the two doctors.
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Re: A phone call from America
January 18, 2010, 01:22:21 AM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Hi - I work in a very well known medical facility (not in California).  We have several high profile patients that we treat regularly (No, I'm not a physician).  There are very strict confidentiality laws in place. Not only Federal and State laws, but also policies for the hospital.  Our IT department monitors patient information to see who's been viewing the information and anyone looking at a person's information without reason will be fired on the spot.  This has even happened. Taking that to UCLA - they probably have the same policies in place which is why everyone is so secretive.  I know this seems odd that nobody would talk but it's possible that only a select few really know what happened and the rest is just speculation. If those select few said what they knew they could be sued big time.  I find it very interesting what the doctor said because of her medical knowledge. And, I find what the porter said to be even more interesting.  Hmmmm....I don't know where to post next bit of info but I was looking at business licenses in California and I stumbled across this one. Notice the date it was filed is October 27, 2009.  I'm not sure what to make of this - any ideas?

LP/LLC
MICHAEL JACKSON AND DR. STEVEN HOEFFLIN, M.D. INNOVATIVE CHILD POVERTY PROGRAM, LLC, THE
Number: 200930110110    Date Filed: 10/27/2009    Status: active
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Address
149 S BARRINGTON AVE #215
LOS ANGELES, CA 90049
Agent for Service of Process
PAMELA HOEFFLIN
149 S BARRINGTON AVE #215
LOS ANGELES, CA 90049
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Re: A phone call from America
January 18, 2010, 05:14:38 AM
Hmm, very interesting that he brought up the subject of illusion. Does everyone really know MJ is a master of illusion? The moonwalk is an illusion but haha seems kinda odd to say.
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Re: A phone call from America
January 18, 2010, 06:43:37 AM
Quote from: "Game Player"
Hmm, very interesting that he brought up the subject of illusion. Does everyone really know MJ is a master of illusion? The moonwalk is an illusion but haha seems kinda odd to say.

no, i don't think moonwalk is an illusion. if you learn and practice hard, you'll know how to do it!  ;)
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Re: A phone call from America
January 18, 2010, 08:51:11 AM
Hello Suzi,
Very good your comment, but I'll say what I think:
The medical profession is very corporate, and moreover there is the ethics, that happens anywhere in the world, after all they follow the rules of the World Health Organization
Now one thing is certain when we have an opportunity to clarify something, we doubt that it is clear that we do not think twice.
Of course if you have started a new job with new team, you will not ask them, you will take time to adapt, local knowledge, and get intimate with the weight, after this happens, then you can start wonder what happened.
If I were in their prime, I would not question whether the doctor actually was Conrad, which he applied, no!
I would on the main point, "Michael really die?", "It is true that the fire alarm rang at the entry of the stretcher in the hospital?" "Someone was in the act of care and resuscitation?"
My friend Suzi, these are the questions that I would do to his cousin, Conrad in relation to whether or not the physician, which it applied or not does not concern us most, because I already know and how much he missed! Only interested in one thing: Michael is alive or dead?
That's all that interests us and we have left after seven months in the never ending search ...
Kisses from Brazil to you! ;)
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Re: A phone call from America
January 18, 2010, 09:54:06 AM
i work for a bank that has handled several of Michaels accounts and still have some to this day.  The day that he died we had a meeting and we were told that our computers are monitored and if someone goes into his accounts to see how much money he had or to see what is going on with the accounts, we would be fired on the spot.  We have several high profile people who bank with us and they reiterated the same for those other people.  So, if a bank has such high standards regarding high profile accounts.  I can assume they would do the same in hospitals.
But, what keeps the patients from talking.  I mean there was media all over the hospital, even if someone didn't physically see Michael, they would know he was there by tv.  They would be able to see the weirdness around the hospital that day.  They do not sign a confidentiality agreement about what they see.  So, they could talk.  But, I have not seen nor heard anything from any patient that was at the hospital that day.  It is clear to me that they went through a private entrance and escaped through another private entrance.  I dont believe Michael was there getting medical treatment.  It was just a ploy.  If it wasn't people would talk. I know I would if I was a patient there and saw something.
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