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Embalming Date 7/7/09
January 17, 2010, 04:46:01 PM
I just read on one of the death certificates that the embalming date is officially listed as 7/7/09 which was the same day as the Staples Center memorial!
I have issues with this date even being remotely correct due to
-a viewing the night before for family
-private service held for family that morning of 7/7/09
-the memorial service which the "body" was present for at the Staples Center

There is no way possible that a "viewing" was held on the evening of 7/6/09 and they "viewed" a body that was deceased almost 2 weeks without being embalmed.I am sure you can all guess why without me going into graphic details  :shock:

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I have posted the certificate I viewed since there are so many and the image is too big for posting so direct link to my Photobucket is provided.
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Re: Embalming Date 7/7/09
January 17, 2010, 04:47:55 PM
I find the whole embalming thing strange because it is not something we do here in the UK so i am just learning about it.

Could they have not done the embalming in the morning before the memorial and viewing?
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Re: Embalming Date 7/7/09
January 17, 2010, 04:59:30 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I find the whole embalming thing strange because it is not something we do here in the UK so i am just learning about it.

Could they have not done the embalming in the morning before the memorial and viewing?


I believe its something which needs to be done fairly quickly following death or things will deteriorate quickly.  Im also from UK, I believe that Princess Diana was embalmed.

Not something I really know much about.

 :roll:
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Re: Embalming Date 7/7/09
January 17, 2010, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: "Ijustcantstoplovingu"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I find the whole embalming thing strange because it is not something we do here in the UK so i am just learning about it.

Could they have not done the embalming in the morning before the memorial and viewing?


I believe its something which needs to be done fairly quickly following death or things will deteriorate quickly.  Im also from UK, I believe that Princess Diana was embalmed.

Not something I really know much about.

 :roll:

you are rigth! in my country a famous singer dies ten days ago. the public memorial was in a place called "Luna Park" like the staples, we don´t see pictures of this man in the casket because the family don´t alow to take photos but the fans can go to the memorial and see the open casket. the person who prepare the body at the funeral house sais that they take all the blood off the body and put some fluids so the body could stay 1 week at the open casket without deteriorate. this fluids depends on the way of dead and the drugs on the body at the time of death.
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Re: Embalming Date 7/7/09
January 17, 2010, 05:12:16 PM
Excuse me. I know it might be a kind of disgusting thought - but wasn`t the reason for his delayed burial that "the brain" (or at least some brain tissue) was missing - and therefore the body kept frozen somewhere ... ?

So are we suppposed to believe that he was "embalmed" in July and just some "tissue" was added to his coffin in early September?

-  "shaking head in disbelief"  -
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Re: Embalming Date 7/7/09
January 17, 2010, 05:13:41 PM
but i was wondering about james browr he died and buried appox 70 days (as far as i remember) and they had open casket
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Re: Embalming Date 7/7/09
January 17, 2010, 05:18:18 PM
brain went missing :shock: ? really ?  it cant went missing its ridiculous media story they are experts   !
  it only take 1 week to fix the brain to enable it for thorough examination ok lets say 1 month maximum MAXIMUM i would say,even then  why they bought that   much time to bury him?
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Re: Embalming Date 7/7/09
January 17, 2010, 05:22:33 PM
Embalming is idealy done within three days of the date of death.  My uncle was found dead in his home and had apparently had been dead two or three days.  The funeral home told us he could not be embalmed because there was already too much decay.  I would think the body could not been embalmed after 2 weeks for this reason unless the body was kept extremely cold.
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Re: Embalming Date 7/7/09
January 17, 2010, 05:26:11 PM
Quote from: "mjj_fan"
brain went missing :shock: ? really ?  it cant went missing its ridiculous media story they are experts   !
  it only take 1 week to fix the brain to enable it for thorough examination ok lets say 1 month maximum MAXIMUM i would say,even then  why they bought that   much time to bury him?


Part of his brain was removed during the autopsy for drug testing.  I read somewhere that the part of the brain that was removed was later creamated.
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Re: Embalming Date 7/7/09
January 17, 2010, 05:30:04 PM
@ jil the whole brain is taken out , the brain gets fixed by chemicals to save the changes and to ensure if the tissue wont go into autolysis ,the process takes one week the brain is dissected bit by bit in to slices and then viewed . reports are made and the organs are either returned or save for future analysis if needed  for second opinion
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Re: Embalming Date 7/7/09
January 17, 2010, 05:53:51 PM
I did wonder if the delay in embalming was due to the autopsy story but I believe the family used that story about his brain being held due to testing,etc as an excuse to stall with burial plans,in my humble opinion.
I say this because the whole brain is not taken for testing but only samples.
This is a common testing and is done in many autopsies but notibly the autopsies of my own sister,Anna Nicole Smith and most recently Brittany Murphy.
Both my sister and Brittany were buried within days of the death but Anna wasn't for weeks due to other legal issues that had nothing to do with autopsy testing.
For a hoax there are alot of inconsistincies that should have been thought out before hand to make everything sound more legit unless it was done on purpose as clues.
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Re: Embalming Date 7/7/09
January 17, 2010, 05:57:31 PM
did we ever find out the results of the brain testing? link if you guys have one!! :)
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Re: Embalming Date 7/7/09
January 17, 2010, 06:36:36 PM
Perhaps they were collecting sperm up until this time, since they thought it appropriate to mention he was still producing it.  Answers my 1st question about how would they know?  However my 2nd one, what did they do with it, is still out there.
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Re: Embalming Date 7/7/09
January 17, 2010, 06:46:17 PM
@ heis outmy life
                           first thing the autopsies were fake
           2. a ll organs are examined not specifically the gonads and only the organs with abnormality "  are labelled     with expert opinion rest are remarkslike  " finding ...nil of note  , normal ,N/A
                           
           3. the cells show varies stages of grotwh arrest and on that basis the pathologist comments as if they actively growing or not
   
    I too believe  that delay in burial was an excuse ,toxicology report never takes too much time
 
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                       i m sorry to hear about yoursister , may her soul rest in peace
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Re: Embalming Date 7/7/09
January 17, 2010, 06:48:28 PM
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did we ever find out the results of the brain testing? link if you guys have one!! :)

The results are secret and the LAPD sealed the file.
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