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he may have wanted to show us the many HOAXes there are and how easily people belive. hoaxes like 911. jfk, jfk jr. global warming, the stimulus package, hoax, hoax, he can come out and say yup just another hoax..hehe.
I PM'd you on youtube, MJAlive999. I'm going to briefly re-state what I said in the message, because I feel it is important. Obviously, many people here feel that Mike is sending a message to the world for the "sheeple" to wake up and see how the world is changing, and not in a positive way. Many folks believe in concepts called the New World Order, the Illuminati, etc. And they feel that Michael is trying to warn us of the evil intentions of the NWO plan -- some even believe that the antichrist or the devil is directly involved in the nwo. They believe that Mike is trying to tell us that a huge change is coming fast -- I personally feel that after Obama was elected, this country started moving in a direction that most people thought was going to be a very positive and fresh new approach. Now many are starting to realize, even those who voted for him, that the country is actually moving in a very scary direction...towards socialism and maybe even worse! (police state, communism, nwo, etc). I see that with my own eyes and it scares the living daylights out of me. I don't want my country, the FREE country that I grew up in, to change in that direction. I don't want the government having control over my life. Maybe that's what Michael means by the greatest demonstration of FREEDOM in the history of our nation/the world. We must prevent the current world leaders from taking away our freedom (because that is the inevitable result of socialism, communism, facism, etc). PLEASE, hoax believers, tell me if you think I am on the right track here... Because if I'm not, I'll keep my mouth shut. My theories about the hoax enter into the political landscape; and that is often a dangerous place to go. I usually keep my politics to myself. For example, many countries around the world hate the USA because we are a FREE society. We don't believe that the gov't should put everyone on the same playing field (socialism); because that is not real freedom. Was Michael Jackson a socialist? A capitalist? Does his message have ANYTHING to do with politics at all? Anyway, I'm digressing a bit. Unfortunately, I do see a few serious problems with what I think is Michael's message, imo. First of all, so many people don't even believe that he is still alive, so I am afraid the message will never reach enough people. Second, very few of the hoax believers are in any kind of position to actually go out there and try to change something as vast as the nwo, if it really exists. Many members are young, and don't even understand yet the way the world works from the inside...how much of what we see (from the media) is an illusion, etc. Btw, does anyone know if Michael was a fan of the movie, "The Matrix"? If so, then I think Michael is trying to tell us to:TAKE THE RED PILL!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!! Anyway, another problem I've seen with this hoax is how cryptic the clues are/were. Again, for those of us who are paying attention, it makes the whole thing seem like just a game. (sorry Michael, I'm just attempting to get into the minds of those who are confused/frustrated over all of this). Maybe it's just me, but a message as SERIOUS as "Watch out for the nwo, illuminati, communism/facism, the antichrist, etc.", imo, maybe shouldn't be presented to us like the game CLUE . But then again, maybe dropping clues was the only way Michael could have done this safely.I DO feel that people, now, are MORE concerned with WHAT Michael is trying to tell us as opposed to "When will he make his big comeback"? Personally, as I said to MJAlive999 on youtube, I don't concern myself with a comeback at all. We all have enough fantastic Jackson music from the pop genre to last a lifetime. And to be fair to those who DO keep asking about the comeback -- I think most of them TRULY just want to know that he is alive & well, more so than when he will be back to entertain us again. If he was murdered by powerful people who DON'T want the sheeple to wake up, well...that still fits in to the whole "Michael has a message for us" theory, too.What troubles me the most is the media. Many feel that LKL, TMZ, AEG, CAngel, etc are all in on this hoax. Certain things were staged, etc. It looked like Michael needed the cooperation of MANY in the entertainment industry to pull this off. But if you look at the videos of a youtuber named EsotericKitten, she believes that the whole entertainment industry and media is CONTROLLED by the Illuminati. Why would MJ enlist the help/assistance of the media if he knew that they are already under the spell of the very EVIL institution that he is trying to warn us about? Hmm...One more thing. It's possible (I've heard this from others), that Mike's message may be entirely religious in nature. i.e. The return, the resurrection, "soon very soon, we are going to see the King", etc. To be perfectly honest, THAT is a heavy, HEAVY concept to ponder; and I am very doubtful that many people would ever accept the possibility of Michael being a supernatural being (Jesus Christ or an angel sent to warn us of Jesus' return). This kind of ties in with the whole 2012, endtimes, or spiritual transformation theme. If THIS is the "red pill" we are supposed to swallow, it surely is the biggest, hardest pill I, personally, will ever have to swallow in my life!!...as it would be for many others too. I was reading on some other forum not too long ago -- these were MJ fans who felt that he is indeed dead (from drugs/murder); and they were commenting on how sorry they felt for us hoax believers who have gone so far as to say that MJ's death has a Biblical/spiritual purpose. They laughed at our "delusion". And I gotta admit, as much as I am desperately trying to look at any and all possibilities for the hoax, I think this one is really hard to believe... Also, other theories are still out there and have been discussed a Ba-Zillion times...i.e. Michael's efforts to expose the Hollywood DrFeelGood's, etc... How do we come to the right conclusions?Two final points: 1) I get a little frustrated at those who keep telling us to "open our eyes", the "evidence is right in front of you!", "wake up!", etc. (Sorry moderators!) This frustrates me for several reasons: A) the evidence, although YES, is there...the clues are everywhere...they are still quite cryptic & sometimes vague, sometimes hard to believe (especially if you are more scientific in the way your brain is wired and are not prone to believing in things you cannot experience with your 5 senses, conspiracies, the Bible, etc). B) as I mentioned before, and I mean no disrespect here, but I think as you get older, it gets harder to believe in things like this as your brain becomes more practical, more hardened, more cynical; and thus it's more likely I personally would hear a comment like, "Oh that is all so ridiculous! Michael is dead! Grow up! A conspiracy?! HaHa! Take off your tin foil hat!" from my peers (I'm in my 40's, older than probably most folks here). So, WILL his message reach ENOUGH people!?!? Maybe he's just targeting the younger generations, because they are the ones in the best position to actually CHANGE things for the better? 2) I've decided that the "message" must be one of the following things: a) stop the nwo; b) get right with God because Jesus is nearer than we think; c) or something as simple and plain as 'love one another, be kind to one another, be charitable, stop being such a materialistic, superficial, self centered society and give of yourself to others. Would he fake his death for any of these messages?Whew! That's my final answer and I'm sticking to it. Am I on the right track or WAY off base? Please give me your insights; I respect everyone's opinion here!!!
^^I agree with u. I don't think socialism is a bad thing...Here in America, I think they (the ones in power) told/brainwashed Americans that socialism is a bad thing...that's because they feel threatned. Capitalism keeps the few in power on top of the "little people", while socialism is an attempt on equality, i.e. something Mj and Obama believe in. Don't be fooled by the socialism scare tactics.... the elite just don't want to lose power....
Sarahli, Without first a dream, there is no reality. Dreams, goals, and vision are the mandatory beginnings to accomplishing a reality. This is partially why Michael believed so much in children, as they were not jaded by life to stop believing in their dreams. It's that critical belief in oneself and utilizing one's God-given talents and abilities that make all dreams possible. This is what I interpret as being the "American Dream". It's not about being self-absorbed, but rather, making the most out of one's life with determination, sacrifice, and hard work. It's about "dreaming big" in all that one chooses to do in life.
Quote from: "SomethingReal"I PM'd you on youtube, MJAlive999. I'm going to briefly re-state what I said in the message, because I feel it is important. Obviously, many people here feel that Mike is sending a message to the world for the "sheeple" to wake up and see how the world is changing, and not in a positive way. Many folks believe in concepts called the New World Order, the Illuminati, etc. And they feel that Michael is trying to warn us of the evil intentions of the NWO plan -- some even believe that the antichrist or the devil is directly involved in the nwo. They believe that Mike is trying to tell us that a huge change is coming fast -- I personally feel that after Obama was elected, this country started moving in a direction that most people thought was going to be a very positive and fresh new approach. Now many are starting to realize, even those who voted for him, that the country is actually moving in a very scary direction...towards socialism and maybe even worse! (police state, communism, nwo, etc). I see that with my own eyes and it scares the living daylights out of me. I don't want my country, the FREE country that I grew up in, to change in that direction. I don't want the government having control over my life. Maybe that's what Michael means by the greatest demonstration of FREEDOM in the history of our nation/the world. We must prevent the current world leaders from taking away our freedom (because that is the inevitable result of socialism, communism, facism, etc). PLEASE, hoax believers, tell me if you think I am on the right track here... Because if I'm not, I'll keep my mouth shut. My theories about the hoax enter into the political landscape; and that is often a dangerous place to go. I usually keep my politics to myself. For example, many countries around the world hate the USA because we are a FREE society. We don't believe that the gov't should put everyone on the same playing field (socialism); because that is not real freedom. Was Michael Jackson a socialist? A capitalist? Does his message have ANYTHING to do with politics at all? Anyway, I'm digressing a bit. Unfortunately, I do see a few serious problems with what I think is Michael's message, imo. First of all, so many people don't even believe that he is still alive, so I am afraid the message will never reach enough people. Second, very few of the hoax believers are in any kind of position to actually go out there and try to change something as vast as the nwo, if it really exists. Many members are young, and don't even understand yet the way the world works from the inside...how much of what we see (from the media) is an illusion, etc. Btw, does anyone know if Michael was a fan of the movie, "The Matrix"? If so, then I think Michael is trying to tell us to:TAKE THE RED PILL!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!! Anyway, another problem I've seen with this hoax is how cryptic the clues are/were. Again, for those of us who are paying attention, it makes the whole thing seem like just a game. (sorry Michael, I'm just attempting to get into the minds of those who are confused/frustrated over all of this). Maybe it's just me, but a message as SERIOUS as "Watch out for the nwo, illuminati, communism/facism, the antichrist, etc.", imo, maybe shouldn't be presented to us like the game CLUE . But then again, maybe dropping clues was the only way Michael could have done this safely.I DO feel that people, now, are MORE concerned with WHAT Michael is trying to tell us as opposed to "When will he make his big comeback"? Personally, as I said to MJAlive999 on youtube, I don't concern myself with a comeback at all. We all have enough fantastic Jackson music from the pop genre to last a lifetime. And to be fair to those who DO keep asking about the comeback -- I think most of them TRULY just want to know that he is alive & well, more so than when he will be back to entertain us again. If he was murdered by powerful people who DON'T want the sheeple to wake up, well...that still fits in to the whole "Michael has a message for us" theory, too.What troubles me the most is the media. Many feel that LKL, TMZ, AEG, CAngel, etc are all in on this hoax. Certain things were staged, etc. It looked like Michael needed the cooperation of MANY in the entertainment industry to pull this off. But if you look at the videos of a youtuber named EsotericKitten, she believes that the whole entertainment industry and media is CONTROLLED by the Illuminati. Why would MJ enlist the help/assistance of the media if he knew that they are already under the spell of the very EVIL institution that he is trying to warn us about? Hmm...One more thing. It's possible (I've heard this from others), that Mike's message may be entirely religious in nature. i.e. The return, the resurrection, "soon very soon, we are going to see the King", etc. To be perfectly honest, THAT is a heavy, HEAVY concept to ponder; and I am very doubtful that many people would ever accept the possibility of Michael being a supernatural being (Jesus Christ or an angel sent to warn us of Jesus' return). This kind of ties in with the whole 2012, endtimes, or spiritual transformation theme. If THIS is the "red pill" we are supposed to swallow, it surely is the biggest, hardest pill I, personally, will ever have to swallow in my life!!...as it would be for many others too. I was reading on some other forum not too long ago -- these were MJ fans who felt that he is indeed dead (from drugs/murder); and they were commenting on how sorry they felt for us hoax believers who have gone so far as to say that MJ's death has a Biblical/spiritual purpose. They laughed at our "delusion". And I gotta admit, as much as I am desperately trying to look at any and all possibilities for the hoax, I think this one is really hard to believe... Also, other theories are still out there and have been discussed a Ba-Zillion times...i.e. Michael's efforts to expose the Hollywood DrFeelGood's, etc... How do we come to the right conclusions?Two final points: 1) I get a little frustrated at those who keep telling us to "open our eyes", the "evidence is right in front of you!", "wake up!", etc. (Sorry moderators!) This frustrates me for several reasons: A) the evidence, although YES, is there...the clues are everywhere...they are still quite cryptic & sometimes vague, sometimes hard to believe (especially if you are more scientific in the way your brain is wired and are not prone to believing in things you cannot experience with your 5 senses, conspiracies, the Bible, etc). B) as I mentioned before, and I mean no disrespect here, but I think as you get older, it gets harder to believe in things like this as your brain becomes more practical, more hardened, more cynical; and thus it's more likely I personally would hear a comment like, "Oh that is all so ridiculous! Michael is dead! Grow up! A conspiracy?! HaHa! Take off your tin foil hat!" from my peers (I'm in my 40's, older than probably most folks here). So, WILL his message reach ENOUGH people!?!? Maybe he's just targeting the younger generations, because they are the ones in the best position to actually CHANGE things for the better? 2) I've decided that the "message" must be one of the following things: a) stop the nwo; b) get right with God because Jesus is nearer than we think; c) or something as simple and plain as 'love one another, be kind to one another, be charitable, stop being such a materialistic, superficial, self centered society and give of yourself to others. Would he fake his death for any of these messages?Whew! That's my final answer and I'm sticking to it. Am I on the right track or WAY off base? Please give me your insights; I respect everyone's opinion here!!! Dear SomethingReal,Reading your post made me realize that we are from such different worlds and everything that bonds us is media and english language. Your knowledge of socialism is different then mine, you've been told different. Socialism has nothing to do with NWO, NWO is more like imperialism , and socialism is something for people, nation, they own everything, everyone is taken care of... you probably think and asociate socialism with something bad because they told you that in your country....believe me....it's not like that. It's hard to create the system that is good for everyone, but the best one is the one that is good for people and environment, capitalism is good for few and is bad for environment. US media created and made other systems look bad on the other hand I would never live in the US...and SomethingReal, can please pm me so we can talk about communism/fascism....if you want We are all feeling that MJ is sending us message about something, my biggest thought is MEDIA, they can create everything and control everything it's like making a movie. We have to be careful, we have to spread love, don't judge something you don't know anything about, just because they told us so.....We have to love each other, respect each other and fight against media brainwashing. All we can do for MJ is to boycot tabloids, TMZ (they are making money from his name as well), try and wash his name, at least for his children.SoemthingReal it's all for L.O.V.E., that's why I posted this
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