[Guest]

I know most of you don't like me or whatever, but anyways I like to believe that we are all here for the same reason..

Please read this


Hi guys,
yes I did find out who Murray really is
I went to peoplefinders.com and found out that
his real name is Robert Earl Carter and he is married to Blanche Yvette Bonnick Murray. According to DMV records Robert Earl Carter and his wife live
at 2579 Red Springs Drive in Las vegas, Now this isnt the address that the "police searched" for their Home but they do own Both properties. Now
Dr. Blanche Yvette Bonnick Murray has a practice
at 2110 east flamingo unit 301, Now this address is very important because its listed on the warrant for Global cardiovascular associates. and it isnt its her Nevada paractice and shes a family Doctor.
Now also Robert Changed his name on his license in
Febuary of 2009 to "conrad murray" and then he boght properties in Conrad Murrays Name. Now when You google Conrad Murray Global Associates you get
3121 south maryland pkwy, not 2110 east flamingo which is on the warrant, Now if you Google conrad murray Houston Texas you get that same address of 3121 south Maryland Pkwy but its listed for Houston texas. Now this Medical clinic armstrong that he supposably works at is owned by Dr davil armstrong
and his medical licensce was suspeneded in 2006, but he owns the building at 6826 west Montgomery Road
Houston Texas 77091. There hasnt been patients in there for a while. his Phone numebr of his office is 713-692-1000.
Also "murray" has 1 adult daughter named Monique lee Carter and Blanche has 1 adult daughter named Maureen
Ray Rose. "murray" doesnt have any "other children
according to Peoplefinders.com And Both adult children live with them at that address.

something else I found out which I think might be important, remember when that car was towed at mjs house and they said murray was driving it but it belonged to his sister Susan Rush, well I noticed on peoplefinders it listed Susan rush as an associate or roommate of the "murray's. So I did a googe check on her well I couldnt figure out if she is related to them or if she is a real person, The name Susan rush is a personal circus, like the Circus is called susan rush, and the address for whoever owns the circus is 10629 Sandpiper Dr# 14 Houston texas 77096
well That address is owned by robert Earl carter.
so im thinking its him who owns the Circus. the Suzan rush circus comes(performs) from Magnolia Texas. So the car that was owned by "suzan rush"
may have been "Murray"s work car. If you Google
the name Robert earl carter 2 things come up one that
there is a obstrician that is named robert earl carter from Ca, and 2 a circus owner. so Im thinking this dude really does circus things.
remember though when mj died the police couldnt find murray so they went to Suzan Rush"s house to find him
or question her about where he was well they went to
robert earl carters House. It was all staged from the getgo
so Im thinking This Dr. Blanche Murray is the real
Dr Murray, and that their is no "conrad murray who is
a cardiologist, However it makes sense I think
that perhaps this Dr Blanche Murray is who may have treated Michaels kids in Vegas considering she is
a Family doctor. This may be the real doctor that
may go on tour with Michael eventually.

I think her real name might be Blanche Yvette Bonnick Carter.


IF you read the actual post you will see that all of the information has been very backed up with well researched evidence... Yeah  lol Dr.Murray is busted

[MJhunny]

you're a good person for doing this !!! You're so right about the fact that
there's indeed no need for all this division crap ,we all want the same thing !!
You rock!!

[Guest]

you're a good person for doing this !!! You're so right about the fact that
there's indeed no need for all this division crap ,we all want the same thing !!
You rock!!

United we stand.. Divided we fall :)

She has some cool pictures and warrants and stuff posted. Really check it out :) Its amazing. Thank you so much for your kind words

[naomifury]

Maura I love your videos! (:

Whoever posted that did sooo much researching! Finally we know for sure that Conrad Murray isn't who he says he is! This is great news!!

[Guest]

Maura I love your videos! (:

Whoever posted that did sooo much researching! Finally we know for sure that Conrad Murray isn't who he says he is! This is great news!!

Thank you :)

And yes its AMAZING news lol :) especially after that TMZ article that had everybody freaked out. lol :) Alll coming together now eh?

[Iused2dream]

Justlettingyouknow....thank you!  I can't guarantee that what you posted is 100% accurate but I have done a lot of research on this "ConradMurray" but haven't been able to devote all of my time on it so constantly get interrupted and end up with a headache.  whoever found all of this is probably correct and has given ALOT of their time to do it b/c  I know there were times during my court records research where I saw many aliases listed but again didn't continue the research.  I've always believed there was a yellow brick road to follow when it comes to Dr Murray and this person has probably found it.  

[hesouttamylife]

So the name Conrad Murray was bought specifically for the hoax :!:  How can you prosecute a non existing person for a non existing crime?  YOU CAN'T.  So any and every thing concerning Conrad Murray is a mirror image. You see it, but you cannot touch it because it is only a reflection.  It's magic!  Wow!  This is good.  Now, when all this is over,I'll bet Murray goes back to using his real name.

[Leah-Kim]

If this is true it makes sense and is BIG!!!!  Also Klein had never heard of Murray until the "death" This was a clue from him back then.. I hope this is true :D

[mirandacnc]

:shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  OMG!!! i hope your telling the truth !!!! if you r this is amazing and thank you!! :D

[Leah-Kim]

http://www.vitals.com/doctors/Dr_Blanch ... urray.html

[Guest]

:shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  OMG!!! i hope your telling the truth !!!! if you r this is amazing and thank you!! :D

omg what the hell? lol Im not making it up GEEZ just read the thread that i posted its on my forum. ITS CRAZY!!

It talks also about the 1957 Court of Last Resort  tv show and one of the episodes is called "conrad Murray" omg look at this!!
http://www.oldies.com/product-view/5092D.html

This is out of control LOL !!!!!

[iMJacksonfaN]

We all should know Conrad Murray is a fake name, therefor no one knows who this guy is.. And havn't said anything about him in the media.. like "We were friends.."

He is an actor.. And they can jail/punish an actor.. But NOT the man behind a movie/act.

[Shout]

If this is true then it is just great, I doubt.

[DarkYetLovely]

I'm trying to make this make sense in my mind but I'm failing miserably. If anybody has any theories on the whys and wherefores I'd love to hear them...

Isn't Murray practicing again? Haven't some of the members here even called the office to schedule fake appointments? Why would Jackson hire a circus owner to play the doctor who supposedly kills him and why would said circus owner agree to do it? What the heck is the purpose of creating a false story about a child support case if in fact there is no child to support?

I am so thoroughly confused. Thanks for sharing though.

[Guest]

So the name Conrad Murray was bought specifically for the hoax :!:  How can you prosecute a non existing person for a non existing crime?  YOU CAN'T.  So any and every thing concerning Conrad Murray is a mirror image. You see it, but you cannot touch it because it is only a reflection.  It's magic!  Wow!  This is good.  Now, when all this is over,I'll bet Murray goes back to using his real name.

Mirror image?

[lisap27]

at last something positive.. thanks maura.. :)

[Secret Dove]

:shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  OMG!!! i hope your telling the truth !!!! if you r this is amazing and thank you!! :D

omg what the hell? lol Im not making it up GEEZ just read the thread that i posted its on my forum. ITS CRAZY!!

It talks also about the 1957 Court of Last Resort  tv show and one of the episodes is called "conrad Murray" omg look at this!!
http://www.oldies.com/product-view/5092D.html

This is out of control LOL !!!!!

I don't think mirandacnc is saying that you're lying! I think their in shock over the news. There's no need to get in a huff over what they said.  ;)

You're right, this is out of control. If Murray's real is Robert Earl Carter and changed his name on his license  to "Conrad Murray" and then bought properties under Conrad Murray's name, can they arrest him? I would think they would have to arrest him under his real name? Does this prove that there's not going to be a arrest made? Am i misunderstanding? I think I just confused myself more... :lol:  :roll:  :lol:

[Guest]

I'm trying to make this make sense in my mind but I'm failing miserably. If anybody has any theories on the whys and wherefores I'd love to hear them...

Isn't Murray practicing again? Haven't some of the members here even called the office to schedule fake appointments? Why would Jackson hire a circus owner to play the doctor who supposedly kills him and why would said circus owner agree to do it? What the heck is the purpose of creating a false story about a child support case if in fact there is no child to support?

I am so thoroughly confused. Thanks for sharing though.

 All I can say is read the post this Jruby made.. Its beautifully backed up. she provided the arrest warrants, pictures and everything. Im more than convinced that she pieced this all together ver well

to whomever said I was getting in a "huff" what are you talking about exactly? I thought myself and the other person was joking back forth? Im good thanks ;)

[Secret Dove]

I'm trying to make this make sense in my mind but I'm failing miserably. If anybody has any theories on the whys and wherefores I'd love to hear them...

Isn't Murray practicing again? Haven't some of the members here even called the office to schedule fake appointments? Why would Jackson hire a circus owner to play the doctor who supposedly kills him and why would said circus owner agree to do it? What the heck is the purpose of creating a false story about a child support case if in fact there is no child to support?

I am so thoroughly confused. Thanks for sharing though.

Join the club, I'm trying to make sense of it too and I'm failing miserably too! :lol:

Yes, Murray is suppose to be practicing and members here have called his office to schedule fake appointments. I don't get the circus owner(funny when you think of it though) to play the doctor who supposedly kills him. I don't get the purpose of having a fake child support case when there isn't any child support. I'm so confused! :?

[Secret Dove]

to whomever said I was getting in a "huff" what are you talking about exactly? I thought myself and the other person was joking back forth? Im good thanks ;)

That's what it sounded like to me. It didn't sound like joking, it sounded like you were getting worked up over what the op said. Sorry. :?

[MJJLIVZ]

this is very interesting indeed...
wonder how mj came up with getting
a circus guy to play murray? now my mind
is on circus things..like, wasnt the circus in
town on the day of the memorial??
thanks so much for posting this..
 :o  :o  :)  :)  :geek:

[live~love~laugh~mj]

this is very interesting indeed...
wonder how mj came up with getting
a circus guy to play murray? now my mind
is on circus things..like, wasnt the circus in
town on the day of the memorial??
thanks so much for posting this..
 :o  :o  :)  :)  :geek:

Wow, forgot about the circus in town i remember someone saying it didnt mean anything cause the circus was always in town but i was thinking then it was not right but never looked no further into it i think it was just another clue so we would research circus owners  :D  and maybe we could of found out about conrad murray earlier

[Shout]

So the name Conrad Murray was bought specifically for the hoax :!:  Howhttp://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/p ... 48&p=48083 can you prosecute a non existing person for a non existing crime?  YOU CAN'T.  So any and every thing concerning Conrad Murray is a mirror image. You see it, but you cannot touch it because it is only a reflection.  It's magic!  Wow!  This is good.  Now, when all this is over,I'll bet Murray goes back to using his real name.

Mirror image?

Oh this picture is for sure interesting, but there are a lot of people who would stand like that (they are not open). It is body language!! Would you point out, ah look they speak the same language (english) actually NO. Bodylanguage is the oldest form of comunication, everyone speaks this language...it is very possible that it is just a coincidence

I don´t want to attak you or anything like that, do not misunderstand me, but if you look a little bit objective you will find many people who will stand like that. So...

[MJJLIVZ]

wonder if we asked BLACKORWHITE what
murrays real name is she would tell us?
or if we asked her if his real name is
robert earl carter she would tell us yes?

[ilprincipe]

Wow...I'm really overwhelmed with so many different news....

so Elvis birthday is indeed a kind of "little bamsday"...


da troot will hopefully prevail soon  ;)

[Guest]

Guys all I can tell you is that this girl is posting more and more stuff and it is completely crazy. I mean she did some SERIOUS research... Im almost afraid for lol.. PLEASE . My forum is private but I made this particular one open so everybody can see it without even signing up. This is SO bamsday omg

http://thedeathofmj.forumotion.com/conr ... e-t248.htm

[hesouttamylife]

So the name Conrad Murray was bought specifically for the hoax :!:  Howhttp://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/p ... 48&p=48083 can you prosecute a non existing person for a non existing crime?  YOU CAN'T.  So any and every thing concerning Conrad Murray is a mirror image. You see it, but you cannot touch it because it is only a reflection.  It's magic!  Wow!  This is good.  Now, when all this is over,I'll bet Murray goes back to using his real name.

Mirror image?

Oh this picture is for sure interesting, but there are a lot of people who would stand like that (they are not open). It is body language!! Would you point out, ah look they speak the same language (english) actually NO. Bodylanguage is the oldest form of comunication, everyone speaks this language...it is very possible that it is just a coincidence

I don´t want to attak you or anything like that, do not misunderstand me, but if you look a little bit objective you will find many people who will stand like that. So...

I didn't post a link nor a picture in my post. So who is your response directed to?  I'm confused.

[Guest]

Mirror image?

[/quote]



I didn't post a link nor a picture in my post. So who is your response directed to?  I'm confused.[/quote]

 Im sorry when you said "mirror image" it just made me think of this picture that was posted on my forum and how it was compared to Murray :)

[Shout]

Crazy news. A friend of my who knows the biz very good because the person works there for many years has  got an email in which is written that if the person wants the truth about Michael Jacksons death the person can get it for money. This friend helps me with the investigation since I have told that there is something wrong with michaels death. This is realy crazy and scary!!!

[Shout]

Mirror image?

It was you Justlettingyouknow, first side

[lisap27]

Guys all I can tell you is that this girl is posting more and more stuff and it is completely crazy. I mean she did some SERIOUS research... Im almost afraid for lol.. PLEASE . My forum is private but I made this particular one open so everybody can see it without even signing up. This is SO bamsday omg

http://thedeathofmj.forumotion.com/conr ... e-t248.htm

 :shock:  :shock: WOW!! she's like sherlock holmes..  :lol:

[KINGdom52]

Thank God some Good news! :)  :)  :)  :)

Indeed this has become TOO SCARY !!!!!
So the rumors about the 8th Jenuary become true!!!! :o  :o

Is there any chance to hear smg equall or bigger  about the kids of Michael  ???
Someone said that something like that is goingto happen this month  :?:  :?:

But even with that I can smile again  :)  :)  :)

Many bravos , really great job  :!:   :!:   :!:

[MJJLIVZ]

that girl is good...
i think she found the troot on murray...
look what i got when i searched robert earl carter...
http://i45.tinypic.com/2nk6t0g.jpg
i hope it works im not good at adding links or pics..
if not i will try again...
 :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :!:  :!:  :!:

[MJLover1990]

This is a good find, thank you so much for sharing! :o

[MJJLIVZ]

http://i46.tinypic.com/2q8348i.jpg
and this is what you get when you search
conrad robert murray.... same info....
funny how there is only 1 listed for conrad..

[angelshadow]

Excellent work!
Murray, we are close to you ;)  :o

[MissG]

I am getting crazy here  :lol:

So....who is going to be charge with unvoluntary man slaughter? This is neverending.

Very interesting findings!

[itsall4love]

Excellent work!
Murray, we are close to you ;)  :o

:D  :D  :D oh angelshadow you're too funny :D

[angelshadow]

@ itsall4love
Ohhh no, I can smell it .... seriously
I hope I do not nerve (I am by nature so) I mean really it's our turn ;)  :)

[MJJLives]

The name Susan rush is a personal circus, like the Circus is called susan rush, and the address for whoever owns the circus is 10629 Sandpiper Dr# 14 Houston texas 77096
well That address is owned by robert Earl carter.
so im thinking its him who owns the Circus. the Suzan rush circus comes(performs) from Magnolia Texas. So the car that was owned by "suzan rush"

I searched for this Susan Rush Circus and found this info:

http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_cnkjbg

It seems she is the only employee, sooooo, she is probably an individual act such as an acrobat or aerialist.  Wasn't Michael going to have an Aerialist act in This Is It?  Of course, this is purely speculation because there isn't much on the website about Company information.  There is a phone number if someone is brave enough to call and inquire! :?

It talks also about the 1957 Court of Last Resort tv show and one of the episodes is called "conrad Murray" omg look at this!!
http://www.oldies.com/product-view/5092D.html

I would LOOOOOOOOVE to see the episode titled "Conrad Murray!"  I wonder if he wears a yellow tie!!!!!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[MJFOREVER]

I know most of you don't like me or whatever, but anyways I like to believe that we are all here for the same reason..

Please read this

http://thedeathofmj.forumotion.com/conr ... e-t248.htm


Hi guys,
yes I did find out who Murray really is
I went to peoplefinders.com and found out that
his real name is Robert Earl Carter and he is married to Blanche Yvette Bonnick Murray. According to DMV records Robert Earl Carter and his wife live
at 2579 Red Springs Drive in Las vegas, Now this isnt the address that the "police searched" for their Home but they do own Both properties. Now
Dr. Blanche Yvette Bonnick Murray has a practice
at 2110 east flamingo unit 301, Now this address is very important because its listed on the warrant for Global cardiovascular associates. and it isnt its her Nevada paractice and shes a family Doctor.
Now also Robert Changed his name on his license in
Febuary of 2009 to "conrad murray" and then he boght properties in Conrad Murrays Name. Now when You google Conrad Murray Global Associates you get
3121 south maryland pkwy, not 2110 east flamingo which is on the warrant, Now if you Google conrad murray Houston Texas you get that same address of 3121 south Maryland Pkwy but its listed for Houston texas. Now this Medical clinic armstrong that he supposably works at is owned by Dr davil armstrong
and his medical licensce was suspeneded in 2006, but he owns the building at 6826 west Montgomery Road
Houston Texas 77091. There hasnt been patients in there for a while. his Phone numebr of his office is 713-692-1000.
Also "murray" has 1 adult daughter named Monique lee Carter and Blanche has 1 adult daughter named Maureen
Ray Rose. "murray" doesnt have any "other children
according to Peoplefinders.com And Both adult children live with them at that address.

something else I found out which I think might be important, remember when that car was towed at mjs house and they said murray was driving it but it belonged to his sister Susan Rush, well I noticed on peoplefinders it listed Susan rush as an associate or roommate of the "murray's. So I did a googe check on her well I couldnt figure out if she is related to them or if she is a real person, The name Susan rush is a personal circus, like the Circus is called susan rush, and the address for whoever owns the circus is 10629 Sandpiper Dr# 14 Houston texas 77096
well That address is owned by robert Earl carter.
so im thinking its him who owns the Circus. the Suzan rush circus comes(performs) from Magnolia Texas. So the car that was owned by "suzan rush"
may have been "Murray"s work car. If you Google
the name Robert earl carter 2 things come up one that
there is a obstrician that is named robert earl carter from Ca, and 2 a circus owner. so Im thinking this dude really does circus things.
remember though when mj died the police couldnt find murray so they went to Suzan Rush"s house to find him
or question her about where he was well they went to
robert earl carters House. It was all staged from the getgo
so Im thinking This Dr. Blanche Murray is the real
Dr Murray, and that their is no "conrad murray who is
a cardiologist, However it makes sense I think
that perhaps this Dr Blanche Murray is who may have treated Michaels kids in Vegas considering she is
a Family doctor. This may be the real doctor that
may go on tour with Michael eventually.

I think her real name might be Blanche Yvette Bonnick Carter.


IF you read the actual post you will see that all of the information has been very backed up with well researched evidence... Yeah  lol Dr.Murray is busted

I dont know you so i dont have a reason to not like you ;)

[MJJLIVZ]

i think i just got an idea...
me and my husband own some land
parcels in several diff states and we always
look up on the net our land tax info,acessments,
parcel ids etc...i am going to look up properties
owned by conrad murray and or robert carter...
i will be back if i find anything interesting.... :arrow:

[Toija]

Here are a couple of interesting tidbits to add to this thread.



***ok I have done a search on the property listed in Magnolia Texas ......  that particular address doesn't seem to exist ...  

*** both Killeen,TX and Fort Hood <tx are military installations.



The strangest thing ... and this may be a coincidence .... but there is a famous high profile person in Texas names Robert  Earl Carter ..... well not anymore ... he was put to death by the state of Texas a few years ago.

[adventureland]

Could this be interesting for you? Im german and I have no Idea what it is.

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_det ... rst=Conrad

[TheKingWillReturn]

Dr Murray = Circus, Don't they call all the press a "Media Circus?"

[MJJLIVZ]

http://i49.tinypic.com/voq5hc.jpg
link to a screenshot i just took of conrad murrays
marriage record for 1984.. i dont know why it wont let
me post direct link to the site page. there has to be a real
conrad murray somewhere or all this wouldnt exist..so according
to this if he was 31 in 1984 he is 56 or born in 1953.. how old
has he been reported to be? i have seen so much in 7 months
i am forgetting things...

[Freedom]

BOW made this comment before this thread was started.

"About-Murray .... he will be charged and Michael will have justice ....no..it's a joke..Murray will not be arrested.How can you indict a person who does not use his own name? It would be false."

Maybe BOW really does know something.

[Butterfly J]

BOW made this comment before this thread was started.

"About-Murray .... he will be charged and Michael will have justice ....no..it's a joke..Murray will not be arrested.How can you indict a person who does not use his own name? It would be false."

Maybe BOW really does know something.

I knew it long time ago from Twitter friend who affirms to be close to MJ. http://twitter.com/ChildByAdoption you have to send her friend request and read all by yourself. She gives out very much interesting information and she seems very real to me.

[mmz]

this sounds to be the best news of the day!
ANd it is amazing that also Bow said Conrad Murray was not the real name..
...bam day close??? :D

[MJJLIVZ]

http://sandgate.co.clark.nv.us/AssrReal ... tance=pcl7
link to property owned by murray in NV.
click on recorded document no. on page to see
the deed,it says "a married man". and has his sig..
damn it, i have looked at so much stuff, i had found
a page stating he purchased land from blanche y. bonnick
but i cant find it. ill keep looking.i cant remember if it
was in NV or TX...

[mumof3]

Yes I found that as well about Robert earl carter he was executed in 2000 he killed children  getting  very scary now and exciting..

[iMJacksonfaN]

I dont think BlackOrWhite is a close friend of MJ..

But I believe this person is very intelligent. Know's what he/she talks about. She probably think further than other, she probably does alot of research and know how to revail something..

Well.. Sometimes I really know what's going to happend, or what the answer is.. And I got a feeling now, that BlackOrWhite could been Dave Dave! Black or white?.. You often get black skin marks after being a burn-victim, and he is white now.. He don't really know. Cause he used to be darker before.

The truth will prevail. Follow the yellow brick road?.. Where is this road? > BlackOrWhite  :roll:

[mumof3]

so do you think this is what jonell star was going to reveal

[MJJLIVZ]

Yes I found that as well about Robert earl carter he was executed in 2000 he killed children  getting  very scary now and exciting..

????????????????????????????????????????????????
 :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
omg..now that you said that i think i do remember
hearing that name back then and that story......
okay,now i am thoroughly confused again,how could
a dead child killer ( :evil: burrrr) have anything to do
with murray or this?????????????????
please help............

[iMJacksonfaN]

so do you think this is what jonell star was going to reveal

Are you talking to me?

-I think it isn't a rumour that Jonell is going to reveal something very big. But how longer it takes us now, when we have gotten so far.. Beyond the planets and stars.. Maybe she is connecting all pieces together, and we have a whole "book."

The future will show

[Iused2dream]

quote: It talks also about the 1957 Court of Last Resort  tv show and one of the episodes is called "conrad Murray" omg look at this!!
http://www.oldies.com/product-view/5092D.html

This is out of control LOL !!!!!

The Court of Last Resort episode doesn't seem to have any connection with the current case, except for the name "Conrad Murray"....here's a link to watch the episode online  http://http://www.tv4u.com/show-large-video.asp?cid=12&sid=663&vid=1753&t=The%20Conrad%20Murray%20Case&cat=Drama

[Guest]

so do you think this is what jonell star was going to reveal

Personally... I believe its exactly what she was going to reveal... yeah.. um.. yeah

[iMJacksonfaN]

quote: It talks also about the 1957 Court of Last Resort  tv show and one of the episodes is called "conrad Murray" omg look at this!!
http://www.oldies.com/product-view/5092D.html

This is out of control LOL !!!!!

The Court of Last Resort episode doesn't seem to have any connection with the current case, except for the name "Conrad Murray"....here's a link to watch the episode online  http://http://www.tv4u.com/show-large-video.asp?cid=12&sid=663&vid=1753&t=The%20Conrad%20Murray%20Case&cat=Drama

HAHAHAHAHA!! This is the best evidence we have on Conrad Murray.
-Michael have been watching this movie, definiteley!

THE CONRAD MURRAY CASE: Conrad Murray was sentenced to life in prison after murderinging a grocery store owner and his wife during a robbery attempt. He's hoping to win a parole, but first he must confront the adult son of the couple he killed.

Clues, Clues, Clues!

[MJJLIVZ]

again,someone please help me understand
how robert earl carter  :twisted:  :twisted:
fits in this..
ppplllleeeaaassseee........... :?  :?

[live~love~laugh~mj]

Things seem to be falling into place
All the news of today is so crazy
I wonder what will happen next
I think we are going to be seeing alot more from now on

[TinkerbellLovesMJ]

Things seem to be falling into place
All the news of today is so crazy
I wonder what will happen next
I think we are going to be seeing alot more from now on

I agree! What a day this has been! :D

[ladylee1979]

excellent piece gets my thumbs up also has anyone tried to see if conrad murray is an anagram of anything? still not understanding the whole child maintenance court case thing although i did read yesterday murray has supposedly started making his payments now!

[Ninanina]

again,someone please help me understand
how robert earl carter  :twisted:  :twisted:
fits in this..
ppplllleeeaaassseee........... :?  :?

If my name was similar to the name of a recent serial killer, I would think about a name change, too.
But he's supposed to have changed his name in 2009??

I have to read the OP on Maura's forum...
Could somebody PM me the link please?

[susie_23]

Here's a list of anagrams for "Conrad Murray":

http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cg ... t=1000&a=n

[TheKingWillReturn]

Since i read the post of Dr Murray the real person being a circus owner, i have had a weird picture in my mind... Dr Murray dressed in loud colours, big red nose, curly colored hair, and Long Shoes.
Yes i Mean a Clown trying to do resuss.  ;)

I'm going to my padded cell now.  :D

[AnnieIsNotOK]

Since i read the post of Dr Murray the real person being a circus owner, i have had a weird picture in my mind... Dr Murray dressed in loud colours, big red nose, curly colored hair, and Long Shoes.
Yes i Mean a Clown trying to do resuss.  ;)

I'm going to my padded cell now.  :D

 :shock:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[TinkerbellLovesMJ]

Since i read the post of Dr Murray the real person being a circus owner, i have had a weird picture in my mind... Dr Murray dressed in loud colours, big red nose, curly colored hair, and Long Shoes.
Yes i Mean a Clown trying to do resuss.  ;)

I'm going to my padded cell now.  :D

[MJJLIVZ]

http://recorder.co.clark.nv.us/oncorewe ... ame&vbt=MC

i hope that works^^^^
link to info on murrays property transactions in NV.
scroll down to see the listings on bottom of page.
this shows he bought land from one blanche y.bonnickmurray.
sooo, there is a connection there... what i find VERY STRANGE
though,is there is also a transaction with a bonnick murray?
it is listed as if that is another person altogether with the first name
bonnick last name murray?? who the hell would bonnick murray be?
if link doesnt work ill try again....

[Ninanina]

Here's a list of anagrams for "Conrad Murray":

http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cg ... t=1000&a=n

CONRAD ROBERT MURRAY = MURDER BY CONTRACT

The same letters, there are just some doubles either way. Try it! ;-)
Credits to...don't remember @MJHD

[tenschi]

Since i read the post of Dr Murray the real person being a circus owner, i have had a weird picture in my mind... Dr Murray dressed in loud colours, big red nose, curly colored hair, and Long Shoes.
Yes i Mean a Clown trying to do resuss.  ;)

I'm going to my padded cell now.  :D

 :shock:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

RIGHT    :!:  :?  :!:  :?

I missed the info on Jonell's big upcoming reveal.  Will someone PLEASE send me a pm or answer here where this I can read about this.

[TinkerbellLovesMJ]

http://recorder.co.clark.nv.us/oncorewebecommerce/search.aspx?bd=1%2F1%2F1988&ed=1%2F8%2F2010&n=murray%2Cconrad&bt=OR&d=1%2F8%2F2010&pt=-1&dt=AFFTR%2CD%2CDGAFF%2CTAXD%2CTSD&st=fullname&vbt=MC

i hope that works^^^^
link to info on murrays property transactions in NV.
scroll down to see the listings on bottom of page.
this shows he bought land from one blanche y.bonnickmurray.
sooo, there is a connection there... what i find VERY STRANGE
though,is there is also a transaction with a bonnick murray?
it is listed as if that is another person altogether with the first name
bonnick last name murray?? who the hell would bonnick murray be?
if link doesnt work ill try again....

Could it be that they just listed part of Blanche's name on the other document and just didn't list her first name?

[Ninanina]

http://recorder.co.clark.nv.us/oncorewebecommerce/search.aspx?bd=1%2F1%2F1988&ed=1%2F8%2F2010&n=murray%2Cconrad&bt=OR&d=1%2F8%2F2010&pt=-1&dt=AFFTR%2CD%2CDGAFF%2CTAXD%2CTSD&st=fullname&vbt=MC

i hope that works^^^^
link to info on murrays property transactions in NV.
scroll down to see the listings on bottom of page.
this shows he bought land from one blanche y.bonnickmurray.
sooo, there is a connection there... what i find VERY STRANGE
though,is there is also a transaction with a bonnick murray?
it is listed as if that is another person altogether with the first name
bonnick last name murray?? who the hell would bonnick murray be?
if link doesnt work ill try again....

Ooh, and definitely not just any connection - look at the respective transaction values.
$ 0
So, must be true, that she's his wife!?
And he spent some serious money...

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

Oh my friggin God!! Are you serious?????????????????????????????????????

I cannot believe this is hapening!! I SOOOO wanna hug MJ right now!!

Dr Conrad Murray!! We got you now sucka!!!

I think I need to breathe!! After the way my life has been going lately I now feel a sense of hope!!!

WOOT WOOT WOOT!!!!! :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen: \

This whole plan is GENIUS!!!! MJ RAAAWWWKKKS

[MJJLIVZ]

@tinkerbelllovesmj, could be the case..
but they are 2 diff property transactions
3 years apart,and they are deeds.i think
on a registered deed it must have the complete
name mentioned..still, i dont know who that could
be,if its a different person..

[MJJLIVZ]

@ninanina, yes, 0 dollars..
i think the only way that can be,
is they are married and he bought
it and then signed it to her or vice versa..

[MyMindseye]

I'm trying to make this make sense in my mind but I'm failing miserably. If anybody has any theories on the whys and wherefores I'd love to hear them...

Isn't Murray practicing again? Haven't some of the members here even called the office to schedule fake appointments? Why would Jackson hire a circus owner to play the doctor who supposedly kills him and why would said circus owner agree to do it? What the heck is the purpose of creating a false story about a child support case if in fact there is no child to support?

I am so thoroughly confused. Thanks for sharing though.

The support hearings arent real the one with the Gilda money was fake by a retired judge remember? So I believe they are all fake backing up the theroy that he is an actor.

@OP OMFG awesome awesome you have made my entire year and what I just saw on the Jack5ons twitter seals it "working up to a secret finale that will BLOW YOUR MIND. Isnt that what MJ said he wanted to do? And TheRealKennyOrtega has some interesting tweets too...OMG Hes coming!!!

[q0txciityl0ve]

I'm trying to make this make sense in my mind but I'm failing miserably. If anybody has any theories on the whys and wherefores I'd love to hear them...

Isn't Murray practicing again? Haven't some of the members here even called the office to schedule fake appointments? Why would Jackson hire a circus owner to play the doctor who supposedly kills him and why would said circus owner agree to do it? What the heck is the purpose of creating a false story about a child support case if in fact there is no child to support?

I am so thoroughly confused. Thanks for sharing though.

idk, but wasn't there like a Circus march or something right before the Memorial? i remember seeing a picture. i could be wrong.

[q0txciityl0ve]

I'm trying to make this make sense in my mind but I'm failing miserably. If anybody has any theories on the whys and wherefores I'd love to hear them...

Isn't Murray practicing again? Haven't some of the members here even called the office to schedule fake appointments? Why would Jackson hire a circus owner to play the doctor who supposedly kills him and why would said circus owner agree to do it? What the heck is the purpose of creating a false story about a child support case if in fact there is no child to support?

I am so thoroughly confused. Thanks for sharing though.

The support hearings arent real the one with the Gilda money was fake by a retired judge remember? So I believe they are all fake backing up the theroy that he is an actor.

@OP OMFG awesome awesome you have made my entire year and what I just saw on the Jack5ons twitter seals it "working up to a secret finale that will BLOW YOUR MIND. Isnt that what MJ said he wanted to do? And TheRealKennyOrtega has some interesting tweets too...OMG Hes coming!!!

TheRealKennyOrtega is fake.

[tinker_bell]

Guys... check out this site, it provides a lot of info on Murray, including his wife, properties and legal cases:

http://www.webofdeception.com/michaeljacksondoctor.html

Also, the info about his wife and children been there a while ago, in July actually (viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2884)

There's this woman who worked with him, she's on FB, shall we contact her?

[MjjGirlSteph]

I know most of you don't like me or whatever, but anyways I like to believe that we are all here for the same reason..

Please read this

http://thedeathofmj.forumotion.com/conr ... e-t248.htm


Hi guys,
yes I did find out who Murray really is
I went to peoplefinders.com and found out that
his real name is Robert Earl Carter and he is married to Blanche Yvette Bonnick Murray. According to DMV records Robert Earl Carter and his wife live
at 2579 Red Springs Drive in Las vegas, Now this isnt the address that the "police searched" for their Home but they do own Both properties. Now
Dr. Blanche Yvette Bonnick Murray has a practice
at 2110 east flamingo unit 301, Now this address is very important because its listed on the warrant for Global cardiovascular associates. and it isnt its her Nevada paractice and shes a family Doctor.
Now also Robert Changed his name on his license in
Febuary of 2009 to "conrad murray" and then he boght properties in Conrad Murrays Name. Now when You google Conrad Murray Global Associates you get
3121 south maryland pkwy, not 2110 east flamingo which is on the warrant, Now if you Google conrad murray Houston Texas you get that same address of 3121 south Maryland Pkwy but its listed for Houston texas. Now this Medical clinic armstrong that he supposably works at is owned by Dr davil armstrong
and his medical licensce was suspeneded in 2006, but he owns the building at 6826 west Montgomery Road
Houston Texas 77091. There hasnt been patients in there for a while. his Phone numebr of his office is 713-692-1000.
Also "murray" has 1 adult daughter named Monique lee Carter and Blanche has 1 adult daughter named Maureen
Ray Rose. "murray" doesnt have any "other children
according to Peoplefinders.com And Both adult children live with them at that address.

something else I found out which I think might be important, remember when that car was towed at mjs house and they said murray was driving it but it belonged to his sister Susan Rush, well I noticed on peoplefinders it listed Susan rush as an associate or roommate of the "murray's. So I did a googe check on her well I couldnt figure out if she is related to them or if she is a real person, The name Susan rush is a personal circus, like the Circus is called susan rush, and the address for whoever owns the circus is 10629 Sandpiper Dr# 14 Houston texas 77096
well That address is owned by robert Earl carter.
so im thinking its him who owns the Circus. the Suzan rush circus comes(performs) from Magnolia Texas. So the car that was owned by "suzan rush"
may have been "Murray"s work car. If you Google
the name Robert earl carter 2 things come up one that
there is a obstrician that is named robert earl carter from Ca, and 2 a circus owner. so Im thinking this dude really does circus things.
remember though when mj died the police couldnt find murray so they went to Suzan Rush"s house to find him
or question her about where he was well they went to
robert earl carters House. It was all staged from the getgo
so Im thinking This Dr. Blanche Murray is the real
Dr Murray, and that their is no "conrad murray who is
a cardiologist, However it makes sense I think
that perhaps this Dr Blanche Murray is who may have treated Michaels kids in Vegas considering she is
a Family doctor. This may be the real doctor that
may go on tour with Michael eventually.

I think her real name might be Blanche Yvette Bonnick Carter.


IF you read the actual post you will see that all of the information has been very backed up with well researched evidence... Yeah  lol Dr.Murray is busted

I find this Murray guy very suspicious ... Mainly because he is also an actor, I remember i saw something where somone had posted information about a movie and Conrad Murray was listed as one of the actors.

[tinker_bell]

Guys, really look up that site his WHOLE life is there and documented: marriages, divorce, liens, cars, geesh!

The man is real.

[mjthelegendlives]

And it is nothing new....Here was a discussion about this name of Conrad Murray
Date:21.12.2009

http://forum.mjackson.net/forum/showthread.php?p=276879

Is this a hoax forum as well? or just a fan club forum?

[TinkerbellLovesMJ]

idk, but wasn't there like a Circus march or something right before the Memorial? i remember seeing a picture. i could be wrong.

Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus  were in town at Staples at the same time as the Memorial.They arrived that morning and walked the animals in the street right in front of all the fans and reporters that camped out in front of Staples for Michael's Memorial.

[TheKingWillReturn]

I have seen the clown... Lol

[TinkerbellLovesMJ]

I have seen the clown... Lol

[Guest]

Guys, really look up that site his WHOLE life is there and documented: marriages, divorce, liens, cars, geesh!

The man is real.

Nobody is denying that he is "real" but im sorry im not buying ANYTHING on that site.. That information was created AFTER Michael died and most of it conflicts with the real information that Jruby found (and I verified by paying myself)

You have to understand that this hoax wasnt executed only by Michael. He HAD to have federal help.. The US government is SO corrupt and create anything to look real..

I want to see ORIGINAL documentation.. Not just transcripts provided..

This is all  crazy and im keeping an openmind about everything considering what I already know.. But this Conrad Murray shit is way too crazy. I'm simply NOT buying that he is who he says he is.. No way.. Jruby did an AMAZING job at proving that..

[tinker_bell]

Nobody is denying that he is "real" but im sorry im not buying ANYTHING on that site.. That information was created AFTER Michael died and most of it conflicts with the real information that Jruby found (and I verified by paying myself)

You have to understand that this hoax wasnt executed only by Michael. He HAD to have federal help.. The US government is SO corrupt and create anything to look real..

I want to see ORIGINAL documentation.. Not just transcripts provided..

This is all  crazy and im keeping an openmind about everything considering what I already know.. But this Conrad Murray shit is way too crazy. I'm simply NOT buying that he is who he says he is.. No way.. Jruby did an AMAZING job at proving that..

I see... what exactly is the conflicting info? I don't deny, i'm just curious. The names and addresses seem to coincide perfectly. I agree, federal authorities can create any identity/informaton needed, but what would be the use of creating tax records which date back years for Conrad Murray? Isn't it normally done for the person under WPP? And what do you mean by original documentation? Aren't we dealing with scans/transcripts/copies all the time during this case?

[MJsFan4Ever]

WOW  :shock:  everything went from QUIET to THIS
OMG I feel BAMSDAY closer than ever!
"The BEST is YET to come" just like MJ said  ;)

[LavdHim]

agreee the end is near ..  8-)
btw MJsFan4Ever your signature is so beautiful ..  :)

[scorpionchik]

Justlettingyouknow

I did not get the point.If there is no cardiologist Conrad Murray, could that mean that AEG hired fake person to kill Michael as I read this kind of comment, or tthis proves hoax and our Michael is alive? Which version you are pointing to? I love last  one :P

Is that peoplefinder free of charge? thank you though. I did not get why you say nobody likes you?  :roll:

[msteetee34]

Yeah I think Dr. Conrad Murray is a shady character too.  I even saw on one of the other forums that he was an actor that's been in two movies before.  He even went to his church with a camera crew like a month ago.  I was like what the heck? :o  Why would you bring a camera crew to church with you.  I even saw a video that was interesting on youtube that was suggesting that his hearing for child support may have even been staged and looked very fake.  No one was even allowed to get near Murray to ask him any questions.  Something is definitely up with this man.  Come on let's be real.  This is a black man who may be responsible for the death of one of the most famous people in the world and he still free and haven't been arrested yet. please :roll: When OJ was a suspect for killing his wife they tracked that dude down so fast.  So that's one of the main reason why I think MJ's death was a hoax.  I mean how could he even step foot in a church if he was responsible for murdering somebody?

[iMJacksonfaN]

This is like Michael Jackson's first movie ever made? :lol:

What a mess, and what a thriller!

[youtube:3165jq79]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N889ZR5_Mw8[/youtube:3165jq79]

Pay attention to 3:28 and watch the rest. Pay EXTRA attention at 3:33 'til 3:44!

And Conrad Murray was a movie person.. He murdered someone, and was in the court.
-Have anyone seen the movie, and how does it end?

Very strange how Michael is saying Dr. Murray in Smooth Criminal, and a man in the court named Conrad Murray was charged for murder. How ODD would it be, if Michael was really dead.

First there is a guy named Conrad Murray that kill somebody, then Michael sings about Dr. Murray in Moonwalker, Smooth Criminal.

[DaTrootWillPrevail]

:o  :o  :o  :o  OMG ...
wow when it is real ..
i can't imagine ...
MICHAEEELLL  is sooo ALIVE hahaha :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

[the_gloved_one]

This is amazing  :shock: i always knew there was something shady about Dr Murray.I'm surprised that those vultures in the media haven't made this discovery themselves!

[Happy Feet]

Guys, really look up that site his WHOLE life is there and documented: marriages, divorce, liens, cars, geesh!

The man is real.

Tinker_bell I hear ya  :)  I went through the old MJKIT posts looking at the info Diana Jean originally posted regarding  his houston texas medical board rego,  intelluis search etc.  A group of us researched on another forum regarding Conrad as I too thought he was just a figment of the imagination. However people uncovered that a Dr Conrad Murray does exist. I'm still trying to locate the info (tonnes of threads to go through), but as mentioned the old MJKIT had documents regarding him too.

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/dr-conrad-m ... -t3890.htm

[mumof3]

Justlettingyouknow

I did not get the point.If there is no cardiologist Conrad Murray, could that mean that AEG hired fake person to kill Michael as I read this kind of comment, or tthis proves hoax and our Michael is alive? Which version you are pointing to? I love last  one :P

Is that peoplefinder free of charge? thank you though. I did not get why you say nobody likes you?  :roll:

Yes that is what i worried about was he hired by some one to do what he did  to finish Michael hate to say it

[mumof3]

This is like Michael Jackson's first movie ever made? :lol:

What a mess, and what a thriller!

[youtube:2xru4ok4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N889ZR5_Mw8[/youtube:2xru4ok4]

Pay attention to 3:28 and watch the rest. Pay EXTRA attention at 3:33 'til 3:44!

And Conrad Murray was a movie person.. He murdered someone, and was in the court.
-Have anyone seen the movie, and how does it end?

Very strange how Michael is saying Dr. Murray in Smooth Criminal, and a man in the court named Conrad Murray was charged for murder. How ODD would it be, if Michael was really dead.

First there is a guy named Conrad Murray that kill somebody, then Michael sings about Dr. Murray in Moonwalker, Smooth Criminal.

I can hear the dr Murray and what puzzles me is there are tons on moonwalker dvds for sale in the supermarkets straight after the "death" and they were not ther before how did they all appear so quick  plus the Michael book how did they get that out  writtenm  printed in a few weeks so  strange .  it is all gettin interesting now very excited about this.

[Alem (Thetruth)]

Please read this

http://thedeathofmj.forumotion.com/conr ... e-t248.htm


Hi guys,
his real name is Robert Earl Carter
Now also Robert Changed his name on his license in Febuary of 2009 to "conrad murray" and then he boght properties in Conrad Murrays Name.

Wait a minute here!

What do you mean he changed his name on his licence? What is his birthname?? Because on his supposed mugshot it is stated Conrad Murray and this was taken in 1994...
Could someone explain this?

[iMJacksonfaN]

Michael Jackson and his team would be checking and testing the doctor that was suppose to watch Jackson.

They would never employe anyone that had a criminal background.

[Grace]

Michael always choose the ones BEST FITTING FOR THE JOB to work with him on a project.

[andrea_garay2005]

wasn't JonellStar working on this particular matter? Wonder what she knows?

[Shout]

Michael Jackson and his team would be checking and testing the doctor that was suppose to watch Jackson.

They would never employe anyone that had a criminal background.

And what about this men  Marc Schaffel. Michael worked with him and did not know that he was a gay porn producer.

[attachment=0:2jcvldrn]jackson-beatty.jpg[/attachment:2jcvldrn]Michael Jackson (left) and Marc Schaffel (right) seen in photo with Warren Beatty (center)

[itsall4love]

As I'm reading this thread I'm thinking these are quite some news!!!
How come no one in the media picked up on this subject???

[Shout]

As I'm reading this thread I'm thinking these are quite some news!!!
How come no one in the media picked up on this subject???

I am thinking about it too. How realistic is it if Conrad Murray would not be the real name that no one has mentioned it in the news. I am sure that a reporter would have presented it, if this were true. I do not believe a second that Michael can control every media, every chanel. No way this is completely unrealistic.  I think Murray is real and it is his real name. Everything else is just a wish of some people who want Murray to be fake, because they think he is a the key to the hoax (if there is one).

[iMJacksonfaN]

As I'm reading this thread I'm thinking these are quite some news!!!
How come no one in the media picked up on this subject???

I am thinking about it too. How realistic is it if Conrad Murray would not be the real name that no one has mentioned it in the news. I am sure that a reporter would have presented it, if this were true. I do not believe a second that Michael can control every media, every chanel. No way this is completely unrealistic.  I think Murray is real and it is his real name. Everything else is just a wish of some people who want Murray to be fake, because they think he is a the key to the hoax (if there is one).

I thinking about how unrealistic it is, if Conrad Murray is a real name. According to all thing I've seen and read. Conrad Murray in the Court-movie, and there is an actor is named Conrad Murray..

[Happy Feet]

I know that there was a Robert Earl Carter executed in May 2000 for the 1992 deaths of his 4 year old son, his son's mother and members of her family.

Anyway like I mentioned before Conrad Robert Murray does exist. As does Blanche Bonnick Murray. Both of them can be found on inteluis.com. So they are real names of real people.

FOR CONRAD:-
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary- ... cusfirst=1

FOR BLANCHE:-
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary- ... cusfirst=1

Anyway to stop us heading down what could be a dead end with this thread (and I'm not saying it is, so don't get all psycho on me  :lol: ) I've gone ahead and ordered the full report ($49.95 one which will roughly work out to $80-$90 australian). If I need further verification I will order Blanche's as well.

Not sure how long it will take to process, but I let you know when I get it!

[Shout]

@iMJacksonfaN

There is an actor named Conrad Murray, but is has been prooved that it is another Conrad Murray not the doctor of Michael Jackson. They look different.

I try to be open about the possibility C.M. beeing not the real name, though it is hard to do. But who knows

[iMJacksonfaN]

@iMJacksonfaN

There is an actor named Conrad Murray, but is has been prooved that it is another Conrad Murray not the doctor of Michael Jackson. They look different.

I try to be open about the possibility C.M. beeing not the real name, though it is hard to do. But who knows

I know! That's why it's very odd that Michael's doctor was named Conrad Murray, when there was a movie with the central-character named Conrad Murray, that was charged for a murder in the court. Also this actor named Conrad Murray.

Conrad Murray is a real name, but Michael's doctor is not name Conrad Murray "in real life."
-They wouldn't tell his real name, it's privacy until the judgement has been complete.

[Shout]

I know that there was a Robert Earl Carter executed in May 2000 for the 1992 deaths of his 4 year old son, his son's mother and members of her family.

Anyway like I mentioned before Conrad Robert Murray does exist. As does Blanche Bonnick Murray. Both of them can be found on inteluis.com. So they are real names of real people.

FOR CONRAD:-
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary- ... cusfirst=1

FOR BLANCHE:-
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary- ... cusfirst=1

Anyway to stop us heading down what could be a dead end with this thread (and I'm not saying it is, so don't get all psycho on me  :lol: ) I've gone ahead and ordered the full report ($49.95 one which will roughly work out to $80-$90 australian). If I need further verification I will order Blanche's as well.

Not sure how long it will take to process, but I let you know when I get it!

Oh my god, you pay for it...? This is really a little bit crazy, but great. Maybe some people will be convinced that C.M. es real name not fake and that one name could really refer to the doctor of MJ. I am not sure

[Alem (Thetruth)]

I know that there was a Robert Earl Carter executed in May 2000 for the 1992 deaths of his 4 year old son, his son's mother and members of her family.

Anyway like I mentioned before Conrad Robert Murray does exist. As does Blanche Bonnick Murray. Both of them can be found on inteluis.com. So they are real names of real people.

FOR CONRAD:-
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary- ... cusfirst=1

FOR BLANCHE:-
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary- ... cusfirst=1

Anyway to stop us heading down what could be a dead end with this thread (and I'm not saying it is, so don't get all psycho on me  :lol: ) I've gone ahead and ordered the full report ($49.95 one which will roughly work out to $80-$90 australian). If I need further verification I will order Blanche's as well.

Not sure how long it will take to process, but I let you know when I get it!

You are our hero! lol Let us know what you found out  :mrgreen:

[Shout]

@iMJacksonfaN

There is an actor named Conrad Murray, but is has been prooved that it is another Conrad Murray not the doctor of Michael Jackson. They look different.

I try to be open about the possibility C.M. beeing not the real name, though it is hard to do. But who knows

I know! That's why it's very odd that Michael's doctor was named Conrad Murray, when there was a movie with the central-characted named Conrad Murray, that was charged for a murder in the court. Also this actor named Conrad Murray.

Conrad Murray is a real name, but Michael's doctor is not name Conrad Murray "in real life."
-They wouldn't tell his real name, it's privacy until the judgement has been complete.

I understand what you mean, so we have to wait. Hope this is right that C.M. is not the real name. But what about the reporter wouldn´t they want to find out what is real? This would be  really a great story, don´t you think that? Afterwards they will be dead I think  :)

[Happy Feet]

I know that there was a Robert Earl Carter executed in May 2000 for the 1992 deaths of his 4 year old son, his son's mother and members of her family.

Anyway like I mentioned before Conrad Robert Murray does exist. As does Blanche Bonnick Murray. Both of them can be found on inteluis.com. So they are real names of real people.

FOR CONRAD:-
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary- ... cusfirst=1

FOR BLANCHE:-
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary- ... cusfirst=1

Anyway to stop us heading down what could be a dead end with this thread (and I'm not saying it is, so don't get all psycho on me  :lol: ) I've gone ahead and ordered the full report ($49.95 one which will roughly work out to $80-$90 australian). If I need further verification I will order Blanche's as well.

Not sure how long it will take to process, but I let you know when I get it!

Oh my god, you pay for it...? This is really a little bit crazy, but great. Maybe some people will be convinced that C.M. es real name not fake and that one name could really refer to the doctor of MJ. I am not sure

Yeah, but u know theories get debated and debated without any solid or at least plausible proof.  People start getting their nickers in a twist and get abusive to one another  :lol: ..... (although I secretly get a bit of a giggle sometimes  :lol: ) Conrad R Murray does exist. If you check out those intelius links on my previous thread, both conrad and blanche's names are on each ones "relatives" list. So they are related in some way (which would be marriage). Conrad has a few more names than Blanche (guess those are his other children)

Anyway different time zone (1.30am in my world), so bed time. I'll let you know what I get in the reports as well as the other forum.

[MJJLIVZ]

Wait a minute here!

What do you mean he changed his name on his licence? What is his birthname?? Because on his supposed mugshot it is stated Conrad Murray and this was taken in 1994...
Could someone explain this?[/quote]

check out my post at the top of page 3..
it is a screenshot i took of a conrad murrays
marriage license in 1984....now with the shot
you have they contridict each other in age....
the marriage license says 31 in 1984 so he would
have been born in 1953 right? something is very
fishy who is conrad???????????????????????????????????? :)

[Alem (Thetruth)]

Wait a minute here!

What do you mean he changed his name on his licence? What is his birthname?? Because on his supposed mugshot it is stated Conrad Murray and this was taken in 1994...
Could someone explain this?

check out my post at the top of page 3..
it is a screenshot i took of a conrad murrays
marriage license in 1984....now with the shot
you have they contridict each other in age....
the marriage license says 31 in 1984 so he would
have been born in 1953 right? something is very
fishy who is conrad???????????????????????????????????? :)

Yes I know there have been a hell of an issue about his real age.

[Lou]

As I'm reading this thread I'm thinking these are quite some news!!!
How come no one in the media picked up on this subject???

Because they don't have time to do researches. They report things as they are told, most of the times. Sometimes they don't even have time to check the reliability of a source.

[Guest]

As I'm reading this thread I'm thinking these are quite some news!!!
How come no one in the media picked up on this subject???

I am thinking about it too. How realistic is it if Conrad Murray would not be the real name that no one has mentioned it in the news. I am sure that a reporter would have presented it, if this were true. I do not believe a second that Michael can control every media, every chanel. No way this is completely unrealistic.  I think Murray is real and it is his real name. Everything else is just a wish of some people who want Murray to be fake, because they think he is a the key to the hoax (if there is one).

Wether Conrad murray is a real person or not, it isnt wishful thinking what Jruby discovered.. Did you even READ the thread or are you going off of this one? Shes discovered all KINDS of lies and twists about Conrad Murray since yesterday.. Im sorry, but if people dont want to accept or believe in the hoax its fine.. I Believe that Dr.Murray is a real person, but based off of evidence presented in front of me.. It aint the dude we have been seeing on TV..

Dr. Murray’s biological father, whom he met at age 25, was the late Dr. Rawle Andrews of Houston, Tex. Dr. Andrews died in 2001, but was a respected Houston physician.

Both Dr. Andrews and his son, Dr. Murray, are graduates of Nashville’s Meharry Medical College.

http://showbiz411.blogs.thr.com/michael ... e-andrews/

=======================================

The famed Acres Home physician, the late Dr. Rawle Andrews once practiced in walking distance of the African-American News&Issues for many years. Dr. Murray, who operates out of the Acres Home Heart and Vascular Institute, 509 W. Tidwell, and the Armstrong Medical Center, 6826 W. Montgomery Rd.—is the son of Dr. Andrews.

http://www.aframnews.com/html/interspir ... Page1.html

=======================================

After graduating in 1989 from Meharry Medical College, a traditionally African-American school in Nashville, Tenn., he had cardiology fellowships in Arizona and San Diego.

In 2006, Murray opened a cardiovascular institute in the Houston community where his father, Dr. A. Rawle Andrews, ran a celebrated family practice for decades.


but THEN this was found

http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/14/72/19/75/40-and10.jpg

THATS the son

and here is his son (or one of) Ronald Andrews
and he is a doctor.

http://www.vitals.com/doctors/Dr_Ronald_Andrews_2.html

and here is an article about how he is the one that should have taken over his fathers practice, mentions nothing about murray doing it.

http://www.businessreport.com/news/2007 ... d-andrews/

and here is Dr. Rawles address for his practice
7901 W Montgomery Rd
Houston Tx 77088-7823
http://www.blackhouston.com/request1.cf ... physicians
look under physicians/family practice


Remember they "searched" this address
(Davill Armstrong)
6286 West Montgomery Road
Hoston Texas 77091
saying this was Dr. Rawles Home acre place that murray had taken over

Then there is this
http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/14/72/19/75/propof10.jpg

is this what you have been seeing on the news???
I have, I was kinda shocked when I found the same thing here
http://www.petplace.com/drug-library/pr ... page1.aspx

propofol is a prescritpion drug and can only be obtained from a veternarian.

The human formulation is Diprovan
made by Zenaca
so the marketed version, on the Box should say Zenaca
Diprovan, thats what the Dea should be looking for.

Meaning The warrants/police reports what ever shouldnt be calling it propofol. They should be using the correct pharmocolgy term which is diprovan.
Now I have heard Diprovan but what bothers me is
the coroner, the police, and the Dea use propofol.
in there paperwork.
You could infer then that Mike was given a vet drug.
Or is that the trick here??? and there using the name propofol on purpose.

http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/14/72/19/75/lidoca10.jpg

same for lidocaine
http://www.petplace.com/drug-library/li ... page1.aspx

lidocaine is a perscription drug that can only be obtained by a veternarian

Human formulation is xylocain
makers of Xylocain is Astra

lidocaine-
This drug is not approved for use by the FDA
but its perscribed legally by vets as an axtra label drug but Xylocain is approved by the FDA and is used by Doctors/Hospitals

http://www.tmz.com/tag/lidocaine
this supposably was found in bottle form by mjs body
according to police.(and tmz)
shouldnt they be refering to xylocain the Human version of lidocaine or does Michael have an addiction to vet drugs....

I guess if they cant get the address correct on any of the search warrants why would they get the name of the drugs correct????  

How does a cardiolgist get a hold of vet drugs?

Applie pharmacy that was searched
http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/1http://i1 ... 589010.jpg

Call this number...
Applied Pharmacy Services
6370 W Flamingo Ste 1
Las Vegas, NV
(702) 304-0770

Thats supposedly the pharmacy that was filling the scripts... They "changed locations"


This is garbage... And these people are caught..

[Alem (Thetruth)]

@Justlettingyouknow

The search warrent will be released on 18 th of January we just have to see what the outcome of searching the wrong adress will be...

[lisap27]

WOW!! good find an sleuthing!! :)

i rememeber didn't Anna Nicole Smith lose all her weight by taking something that they give to horses!! which is extremely dangerous for human consumption!! i'm sure i read that somewhere!!

could this be the case with MJ.. not the same stuff obviously.. or are they just telling BIG FAT LIES!!  :shock:

[Guest]

OMG NO NO SHE WAS TOTALLY RIGHT!! LOOK

The search warrant states THIS address
Applied Pharmacy Services
6370 W Flamingo Ste 1
Las Vegas, NV

with THIS telephone number
(702) 304-0770

 right?

But  check this out

 THIS is the REAL applied pharmacy
http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/ ... 2-304-0770
The address is
2851 N Tenaya Way # 202
Las Vegas, NV

You can say its just a coinky dink right???

BUT GUESS WHAT NUMBER IS LISTED ON THE SECOND ONE
(702) 304-0770 !!!!


omg this is sooo funny hahahaha SOO BUSTED!!!

[mjthelegendlives]

Maura let me get this straight...Dr. Rawles is Dr. Murray's father, Dr. Murray is real, but that's not the man we have seen all the way? So who is this man we've seen the whole time?  Robert E. Carter?  So how is it possible that they are both related to this Yvonne Bonnick? The real Dr. Murray and the fake Dr. Murray (the one related to MJ's case)?  

Sorry, I think I have misunderstood all this... :?

[MJJLIVZ]

Maura let me get this straight...Dr. Rawles is Dr. Murray's father, Dr. Murray is real, but that's not the man we have seen all the way? So who is this man we've seen the whole time?  Robert E. Carter?  So how is it possible that they are both related to this Yvonne Bonnick? The real Dr. Murray and the fake Dr. Murray (the one related to MJ's case)?  

Sorry, I think I have misunderstood all this... :?

lol,, :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
i thought yesterday i had it pretty much understood,
but the more i go the more  :? i get too....
i am sooo lost, thats what i cant figure out,
how they are both showing relation to blanche y. bonnick?
i know there is a real conrad murray somewhere, but who
we have been seeing is the million $ ?

[Happy Feet]

Applied Pharmacy's address on the search warrant is correct. I rang the number myself as did another person back in Nov. At that time the were in the process of moving again and they confirmed the address.  They moved from
2851 N Tenaya Way Ste 202, Las Vegas, NV 89128 to 6370 W. Flamingo Road in 2008. Here's a link that shows the address in the  reviews section left by a Alan Burnstein in Dec 2008.
 
http://www.topix.com/yp/enterprise-nv/5 ... armacy-svc

They now have their new address listed with the same phone number. Businesses can move and be able to keep their business telephone number if the move within a certain proximity.  It's a common practice.

APPLIED PHARMACIES NEW LISTED ADDRESS
5785 S Fort Apache Rd # 100
Las Vegas, NV 89148 -5629
 (702) 304-0770

Like I said, I did ring the number back when the warrant originally came out and the person confirmed the address and that they were in the process of moving again (which they have done).  

I'm not deny that there is something fishy with Conrad Murray or the search warrant in general.  Something is up, that's for sure.

[Guest]

Applied Pharmacy's address on the search warrant is correct. I rang the number myself as did another person back in Nov. At that time the were in the process of moving again and they confirmed the address.  They moved from
2851 N Tenaya Way Ste 202, Las Vegas, NV 89128 to 6370 W. Flamingo Road in 2008. Here's a link that shows the address in the  reviews section left by a Alan Burnstein in Dec 2008.
 
http://www.topix.com/yp/enterprise-nv/5 ... armacy-svc

They now have their new address listed with the same phone number. Businesses can move and be able to keep their business telephone number if the move within a certain proximity.  It's a common practice.

APPLIED PHARMACIES NEW LISTED ADDRESS
5785 S Fort Apache Rd # 100
Las Vegas, NV 89148 -5629
 (702) 304-0770

Like I said, I did ring the number back when the warrant originally came out and the person confirmed the address and that they were in the process of moving again (which they have done).  

I'm not deny that there is something fishy with Conrad Murray or the search warrant in general.  Something is up, that's for sure.

lol Bah im an idiot..  I get what you're saying.. But I still dont buy this Dr.Murray shit.. There is TOO many weird things going on here..

[jennyruby]

they might of confirmed the address but they wernt there
keep in mind in order to use the name of applied pharmacy
someone from applied pharmacy has to go along with it.

Master dental lab is there now
Nilex was there
 all state staffing was there

 all these companys there at that address on the search warrant all since 2007
i assure you applied pharmacy was not one of them
Google them

[Shout]

As I'm reading this thread I'm thinking these are quite some news!!!
How come no one in the media picked up on this subject???

I am thinking about it too. How realistic is it if Conrad Murray would not be the real name that no one has mentioned it in the news. I am sure that a reporter would have presented it, if this were true. I do not believe a second that Michael can control every media, every chanel. No way this is completely unrealistic.  I think Murray is real and it is his real name. Everything else is just a wish of some people who want Murray to be fake, because they think he is a the key to the hoax (if there is one).

Wether Conrad murray is a real person or not, it isnt wishful thinking what Jruby discovered.. Did you even READ the thread or are you going off of this one? Shes discovered all KINDS of lies and twists about Conrad Murray since yesterday.. Im sorry, but if people dont want to accept or believe in the hoax its fine.. I Believe that Dr.Murray is a real person, but based off of evidence presented in front of me.. It aint the dude we have been seeing on TV..

Dr. Murray’s biological father, whom he met at age 25, was the late Dr. Rawle Andrews of Houston, Tex. Dr. Andrews died in 2001, but was a respected Houston physician.

Both Dr. Andrews and his son, Dr. Murray, are graduates of Nashville’s Meharry Medical College.

http://showbiz411.blogs.thr.com/michael ... e-andrews/

It seem to me that you think that I do not believe in a hoax. If I would not do it I will be not here. It is sometimes hard to belive because many things are not logical to me, but I try to look a little bit deeper into the whole story of Dr. Murray not being the real name of the doctor who caused Michaels "death".

I have written on the first page that these ideas are not new they were discussed on another forum on December 21. 2009

And it is nothing new....Here was a discussion about this name of Conrad Murray
Date:21.12.2009 http://forum.mjackson.net/forum/showthread.php?p=276879

It was not my aim to hurt someone, sorry if you feel like that. It is nothing I want to do. I try a little bit harder to get into the story of Murray.

[Shout]

Dr Murray = Circus, Don't they call all the press a "Media Circus?"

Yes, yes, yes, and Elisabeth Taylor said that she dont want do be a part of this circus and that this is it is the greates film she has EVER seen..

[jennyruby]

But How realistic is it for the media to ever tell the truth, just cause they aint printing it or saying it doesnt mean they dont know it.  
They print what the others are printing. Even if they know better or know otherwise
and thats the Point in all of this, Look just because Mj "died" on June 25th does not
mean the media/.cops/courts are going to tell the truth.
Conrad murray is just as fictional as jesus Juice, its coming from the same
media pundits who purposly lied during that trial.
You read the transcripts of that trial, no one ever reported it right
accept maybe geraldo who then got shipped out.
There not telling the truth now Dont believe it.

[Shout]

And it is nothing new....Here was a discussion about this name of Conrad Murray
Date:21.12.2009

http://forum.mjackson.net/forum/showthread.php?p=276879

Is this a hoax forum as well? or just a fan club forum?

It is just a fan club. But they were not really allowed to do researches. Germany you know not so open minded  :lol:  ;). I am on another fan club forum and always get frustrated because they do not even think aboutthat Michael could have faked his death. And they are Michaels fans, but do not expect Michael being such creative...I feel here much confortable then in other forums.

[Shout]

But How realistic is it for the media to ever tell the truth, just cause they aint printing it or saying it doesnt mean they dont know it.  
They print what the others are printing. Even if they know better or know otherwise
and thats the Point in all of this, Look just because Mj "died" on June 25th does not
mean the media/.cops/courts are going to tell the truth.
Conrad murray is just as fictional as jesus Juice, its coming from the same
media pundits who purposly lied during that trial.
You read the transcripts of that trial, no one ever reported it right
accept maybe geraldo who then got shipped out.
There not telling the truth now Dont believe it.

I totaly agree with you on most of the points. I was just thinking if everything is so easy for MJ to do...I wonder why they would support Michael right now if they have alway played against him, it does not make really sense to me..that is why I am not that fast to claim that everything is written here is true as well

[jennyruby]

the media doesnt support him, its possible that Tmz knows the truth and is helping but the other media outlets are listening to tmz , they dont check ever.  i heard at one point Tmz that Harvey levin guy was paid to do this, I dont know never confirmed it.   The trick is is that tmz is tablodish and everybody listens to them and reports what they reported but never checks it out.  Tmz could report neverlands grass
is Blue and by tommorw evening the cbs news would have a report on how Blue it is when its green.
Eevn Geraldo on Bill oreilly last night was saying murray would get 4 yrs,  No one is checking into this hog wash

[Guest]

Applied Pharmacy's address on the search warrant is correct. I rang the number myself as did another person back in Nov. At that time the were in the process of moving again and they confirmed the address.  They moved from
2851 N Tenaya Way Ste 202, Las Vegas, NV 89128 to 6370 W. Flamingo Road in 2008. Here's a link that shows the address in the  reviews section left by a Alan Burnstein in Dec 2008.
 
http://www.topix.com/yp/enterprise-nv/5 ... armacy-svc

They now have their new address listed with the same phone number. Businesses can move and be able to keep their business telephone number if the move within a certain proximity.  It's a common practice.

APPLIED PHARMACIES NEW LISTED ADDRESS
5785 S Fort Apache Rd # 100
Las Vegas, NV 89148 -5629
 (702) 304-0770

Like I said, I did ring the number back when the warrant originally came out and the person confirmed the address and that they were in the process of moving again (which they have done).  

I'm not deny that there is something fishy with Conrad Murray or the search warrant in general.  Something is up, that's for sure.

Jen Im taking this from my forum and posting it here

I know there are some doubters out there about applied Pharmacy so im going tell ya that applied pharmacy was never at the address in 2008 (search warrant) heres my proof

Master dental lab is in there now (October of 2009)
http://www.rateitall.com/i-113674-maste ... go-rd.aspx

Nilex was there in from august of 2008 -febuuary 2009-
http:////lasvegas.kudzu.com/merchant/17318907.html

AllState staffing was in there from November of 2007- to June of 2008
http://lasvegas.kudzu.com/merchant/1447957.html

I have contacted all these places
along with applied pharmacy, now applied just moved again, but it has nothing to do with that address

keep in mind that applied pharmacy services has to go along with this, its there name there using.
so im sure they will say thats them when it isnt.
so for them to say we were there in 2008, from june 0f 2008 till august of 2008? cause thats the only
Time that paticular address wasnt used.

[Shout]

the media doesnt support him, its possible that Tmz knows the truth and is helping but the other media outlets are listening to tmz , they dont check ever.  i heard at one point Tmz that Harvey levin guy was paid to do this, I dont know never confirmed it.   The trick is is that tmz is tablodish and everybody listens to them and reports what they reported but never checks it out.  Tmz could report neverlands grass
is Blue and by tommorw evening the cbs news would have a report on how Blue it is when its green.
Eevn Geraldo on Bill oreilly last night was saying murray would get 4 yrs,  No one is checking into this hog wash

It works because TMZ was the first who have  pronounced MJs death and they are the first with other news. If this is true with Harvey...then...


“And we should make it clear Dr. Murray has not been charged. The DA has not even the case yet, that said it´s very clear the LAPD staggering Dr. Murray. Dr. Murray has told the LAPD in his interview, the Saturday after Michael Jackson´s death, that he administered the Propofol. We know that they gonna say the Propofol was front (do not understand) in terms of legal level…the lithel level, excuse me.” TMZ LIVE 8.7.2009 ;) ;)

We should add it to the slipup list...

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/tmz-l ... reURL=true

[mjthelegendlives]

And it is nothing new....Here was a discussion about this name of Conrad Murray
Date:21.12.2009

http://forum.mjackson.net/forum/showthread.php?p=276879

Is this a hoax forum as well? or just a fan club forum?

It is just a fan club. But they were not really allowed to do researches. Germany you know not so open minded  :lol:  ;). I am on another fan club forum and always get frustrated because they do not even think aboutthat Michael could have faked his death. And they are Michaels fans, but do not expect Michael being such creative...I feel here much confortable then in other forums.

Hmm thats why I asked, because I find it odd that non-believers are asking themselves whether Dr. Murray is really a doctor or not, or that they are even questioning Dr. Murray.  Is the person who posted the information a non believer of the hoax?  Interesting indeed.

[q0txciityl0ve]

okay. I read all this and I'm in total confusion.

can someone tell me straight up in a direct summary, please?

[Shout]

http://forum.mjackson.net/forum/showthread.php?p=276879

Is this a hoax forum as well? or just a fan club forum?

[/quote]

It is just a fan club. But they were not really allowed to do researches. Germany you know not so open minded  :lol:  ;). I am on another fan club forum and always get frustrated because they do not even think aboutthat Michael could have faked his death. And they are Michaels fans, but do not expect Michael being such creative...I feel here much confortable then in other forums.

Hmm thats why I asked, because I find it odd that non-believers are asking themselves whether Dr. Murray is really a doctor or not, or that they are even questioning Dr. Murray.  Is the person who posted the information a non believer of the hoax?  Interesting indeed.

[/quote]

Mh, a member has writter there that a lot of people who are questioning Michaels death ar just normal fans like you and me and they are not so "crazy" because they do not want to believe that Michael is dead. I am a big fan too. Maybe some fans who are there are here aswell. They are not stupid  ;)

Another plot:
[attachment=0:1k24l3he]Miss Murray.JPG[/attachment:1k24l3he]

It was really hard for me to find out that Murrays wife is a doctor  :D  ;)  ;)  ;)

Source: http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/15/spotted-d ... -in-vegas/

[Shout]

[attachment=1:3tt4ve9r]image_fmabspic_0_0-1118050462.jpg[/attachment:3tt4ve9r]
[attachment=0:3tt4ve9r]clowning about.jpg[/attachment:3tt4ve9r]

 ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)

[jennyruby]

In now way am Im Implying michael faked his death or that Conrad murray doesnt exist.
Im saying that The media never is close on what the truth is about Michael.
(Alive or Dead). Clearly The way the Media purposley makes u think Murray
has all these girlfriends and all these children, and then to find out that he has a wife
that is a doctor, who happens to have a practice at the address listed on a search warrant.
Look it would be different if the media or the cops or whoever would say , he split from his wife
and we searched her property thinking she was hiding stuff from for him. But they dont they
purposly leave her out . That is HUGE,  along with the fact that they say Murray went back to work at
a place that isnt is Home acre place, it belongs to somebody else. Do I know Mj is alive, NO
Do I know anyone with in the jackson camp No, But what i do know is this, whatever happened to Michael
if anything, isnt whats being reported. Im pretty confident that the person we know as conrad Murray
isnt a cardoligist and goes by a different name.

[MJJLIVZ]

i just thought of something, please
help me out here.. now assuming robert carter (aka)
conrad murray is a circus owner, could it be possible
that he could have propofol on hand,seeing as it is
from a vet. for animals in said circus?? i dont know
how that would play into things,just thinking of vet. meds
and circus/animals..

[q0txciityl0ve]

can someone PM please about this whole thing on Dr. Murray & also about the pharmacy or whatever?
i'm very confused & need help in comprehending.

thank you.

[Shout]

As I'm reading this thread I'm thinking these are quite some news!!!
How come no one in the media picked up on this subject???

Then there is this
http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/14/72/19/75/propof10.jpg

is this what you have been seeing on the news???
I have, I was kinda shocked when I found the same thing here
http://www.petplace.com/drug-library/pr ... page1.aspx

propofol is a prescritpion drug and can only be obtained from a veternarian.

The human formulation is Diprovan
made by Zenaca
so the marketed version, on the Box should say Zenaca
Diprovan, thats what the Dea should be looking for.

Meaning The warrants/police reports what ever shouldnt be calling it propofol. They should be using the correct pharmocolgy term which is diprovan.
Now I have heard Diprovan but what bothers me is
the coroner, the police, and the Dea use propofol.
in there paperwork.
You could infer then that Mike was given a vet drug.
Or is that the trick here??? and there using the name propofol on purpose.

http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/14/72/19/75/lidoca10.jpg

You are talking about Propofol Deprivan. I just can tell that in germany I have seen it several times that they have talked about Deprivan and Propofol. I do not know what you are trying to tell me/us..But maybe you are to critical, people always make mistakes it does not mean anything sometimes. And to me it does not proof anything, so.. I go on reading and draw my own conclusions by researching for myself and by questioning the opinion of other people whoever they will be, media or else..

[jennyruby]

Robert earl Carter did not have any propofol, did not administer any propofol, he wasnt in the house with mj on the night of june 24th or the day of june 25th, Propofol and Murray are fictional,  If Michael is dead it wasnt from Propofol
or "conrad murray"
This is the story thats being created around june 25th
none of it is true
If Michael has a doctor its Blanche Yvette Bonnick Murray
and she didnt give him propofol or was in the house at the timje of his "death"

[MJJLIVZ]

http://www.elephantcare.org/Drugs/propofol.htm

[Grenat]

Everyone I don't know if it can help to prove that Dr Conrad Murray is indeed Robert Earl Carter and is related to Yvette Blanche Bonnick
This is a post I made yesterday with screenshots
Here if you want to see the screenshot

A TMZ Article mentionning Conrad Murray's wife so that you see it's her correct name



Here is Yvette Blanche Bonnick Murray(Conrad Murray's wife)

when you search for relatives you go to : Bonnick Murray, Conrad



His name really is Robert Earl Carter ?That's a huge changement !

Here is the original post if you want to see a little bigger the screenshot
http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3152
I hope I helped

[Shout]

@Justlettingyouknow
Here is just ONE example of your presentation:

 Sedative Deprivan found in Micheal Jackson's home
http://www.chinaview.cn 2009-07-04 14:21:23         Print

    BEIJING, July 4 (Xinhuanet) -- The powerful sedative Diprivan was discovered in Micheal Jackson's home, according to law enforcement officials Friday.

Pop star Michael Jackson rehearses for his planned shows in London at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, California in this handout photo taken June 23, 2009. (Xinhua/Reuters, File Photo)
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    Diprivan is an anesthetic used in hospitals to induce unconsciousness. The anesthetic, administered intravenously, is highly unusual to have in a private home.

Source: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009- ... 651738.htm

    As autopsy results are expected in several weeks, authorities are looking into allegations that Micheal, who died last Thursday after he went into cardiac arrest at his rented home in Los Angeles, was on painkillers, sedatives, and antidepressants.

    They talked to Cherilyn Lee, a registered nurse who was working with the pop star, after Deprivan was found. "Jackson pleaded for Diprivan just a few days before his death amid the stress of preparing for a massive series of comeback concerts.

   Lee said she repeatedly rejected his demands because the drug was unsafe.
 Sources close to Micheal told CNN Thursday the late singer was routinely using potent drugs to combat insomnia in the past.

  (Agencies)

We do not see everything....that is why it does not mean that we are right with what we have found out...

[mjthelegendlives]

So Yvonne is Conrad's wife, but Conrad isn't Conrad, he's actually Robert?  Or is Yvonne married to the real Conrad Murray? the real doctor? not the guy that we think "killed" Michael . Am I thinking straight, because I thought I was last night... :?   I'm using simple words for my own benefit and others benefit since language barrier can be a problem.  This whole story is confusing by itself.

[MJJLIVZ]

So Yvonne is Conrad's wife, but Conrad isn't Conrad, he's actually Robert?  Or is Yvonne married to the real Conrad Murray? the real doctor? not the guy that we think "killed" Michael . Am I thinking straight, because I thought I was last night... :?   I'm using simple words for my own benefit and others benefit since language barrier can be a problem.  This whole story is confusing by itself.

 :lol:  :lol:
that is exactly the way i would say it...
my exact way of thinking too...
 :?  :?  :?  :?  :?  :x  :x  :oops:  :oops:  :shock:  :shock:  :!:

[Grenat]

I think that Yvette Blanche Bonnick Murray married to Conrad Bonnick Murray
(she took his name I think)
Conrad Robert Murray is an alias(Like Michael Joseph Jackson and Michael Joe Jackson) , and Robert Earl Carter is his former name
That's my theory.

[hesouttamylife]

I don't believe he is married :lol:  she's the real doctor, family practice.  He's an office boy who she got together with and planned to dupe Michael out of his money.  He had used her for the children's colds.  She saw dollar signs, came up with the plan to have him pose as her hubby, the cardi, and bam.  She is probably the "girlfriend" he was on the phone talking to trying to get instructions on how to do cpr, since he obviously didn't have a clue.

[TheKingWillReturn]

I just can't get my head around 'Dr Murray' being a circus owner, Heart specialist... I wouldn't even trust him with my Funny Bone.  :P

[jennyruby]

look there isnt any search warrants that are legit
therefore there isnt any crime thats been commited or
any real investigation ever on Murray. There has never been
any Public statement from police/Dea or Coroners office.
Craig harvey works in hollywood.   He Creates fake autopsys.
all of this 'investigation' on Murray has only been reported by the media
that its being done.  all of this is fake and not true
No one came out from the Police and did a Public Statement.
No one came out from The Dea and did a Public statement
No one came out from the coroners Office.
Craig harvey is the 'spokeperson"
think about it remeber when they were going to investigate Michael and or arrest him
in 1993 and 2003 there were press conferences made by Police/prosecutors.
Jermaine is the one who said Michael died
Not any Doctors.....
Murray didnt sign the death certificate and either did anyone form the coroners office.
Murray isnt a doctor. thats why he didnt sign it, The coroner isnt in this, thats why he didnt sign it.

[jennyruby]

I just can't get my head around 'Dr Murray' being a circus owner, Heart specialist... I wouldn't even trust him with my Funny Bone.  :P

I know what you mean but I tell ya Id much more believe that Michael was into circus things then cardiologists.

[mjthelegendlives]

I don't believe he is married :lol:  she's the real doctor, family practice.  He's an office boy who she got together with and planned to dupe Michael out of his money.  He had used her for the children's colds.  She saw dollar signs, came up with the plan to have him pose as her hubby, the cardi, and bam.  She is probably the "girlfriend" he was on the phone talking to trying to get instructions on how to do cpr, since he obviously didn't have a clue.

Whoa...thats an interesting theory. That would explain the cpr on the bed.

[Happy Feet]

Applied Pharmacy's address on the search warrant is correct. I rang the number myself as did another person back in Nov. At that time the were in the process of moving again and they confirmed the address.  They moved from
2851 N Tenaya Way Ste 202, Las Vegas, NV 89128 to 6370 W. Flamingo Road in 2008. Here's a link that shows the address in the  reviews section left by a Alan Burnstein in Dec 2008.
 
http://www.topix.com/yp/enterprise-nv/5 ... armacy-svc

They now have their new address listed with the same phone number. Businesses can move and be able to keep their business telephone number if the move within a certain proximity.  It's a common practice.

APPLIED PHARMACIES NEW LISTED ADDRESS
5785 S Fort Apache Rd # 100
Las Vegas, NV 89148 -5629
 (702) 304-0770

Like I said, I did ring the number back when the warrant originally came out and the person confirmed the address and that they were in the process of moving again (which they have done).  

I'm not deny that there is something fishy with Conrad Murray or the search warrant in general.  Something is up, that's for sure.

Jen Im taking this from my forum and posting it here

I know there are some doubters out there about applied Pharmacy so im going tell ya that applied pharmacy was never at the address in 2008 (search warrant) heres my proof

Master dental lab is in there now (October of 2009)
http://www.rateitall.com/i-113674-maste ... go-rd.aspx

Nilex was there in from august of 2008 -febuuary 2009-
http:////lasvegas.kudzu.com/merchant/17318907.html

AllState staffing was in there from November of 2007- to June of 2008
http://lasvegas.kudzu.com/merchant/1447957.html

I have contacted all these places
along with applied pharmacy, now applied just moved again, but it has nothing to do with that address

keep in mind that applied pharmacy services has to go along with this, its there name there using.
so im sure they will say thats them when it isnt.
so for them to say we were there in 2008, from june 0f 2008 till august of 2008? cause thats the only
Time that paticular address wasnt used.

Well I'm sorry, but I am going off the fact that I, myself called Applied Pharmacy whilst it was located at Flamingo. They weren't there until Aug 08. They were there when the search warrant was issued.  Now if you are being told something otherwise is a non issue for me. I know what I was told and will base my knowledge from that. I would appreciate not being alluded to as a liar or someone that doesn't know what they are talking about. I have been respectful enough when responding to posters here even if I disagree. Flamingo is also a large permises and has multiple businesses running from it.

I told everyone I will get the report off Inteluis regarding Conrad and I have done so. I am going through it now and will need to probably order another 2 in this process of verifying information which will include one for Blanche.

I don't understand why everyone is arguing. It's not about being the person who "breaks the case" or has all the "insider information".   We are in this together or are we? Cause half the time it seems like it's the them and the us.

Once I get a chance to go through them myself, I will post information for everyone that is relevant.

[Happy Feet]

I don't believe he is married :lol:  she's the real doctor, family practice.  He's an office boy who she got together with and planned to dupe Michael out of his money.  He had used her for the children's colds.  She saw dollar signs, came up with the plan to have him pose as her hubby, the cardi, and bam.  She is probably the "girlfriend" he was on the phone talking to trying to get instructions on how to do cpr, since he obviously didn't have a clue.

Whoa...thats an interesting theory. That would explain the cpr on the bed.

I'm gonna say I have thought of this theory too for about the last month, that she was the Dr all along, hence the reason I'm going after her files as well. Want to try a cover as much ground as possible.

Anyway I got to get back to it.

[jennyruby]

I don't believe he is married :lol:  she's the real doctor, family practice.  He's an office boy who she got together with and planned to dupe Michael out of his money.  He had used her for the children's colds.  She saw dollar signs, came up with the plan to have him pose as her hubby, the cardi, and bam.  She is probably the "girlfriend" he was on the phone talking to trying to get instructions on how to do cpr, since he obviously didn't have a clue.

I believe Michael or Michaels Kids were seeing Blanche and he asked her would she be apart of this
My personal doctor gave me propofol drama but she didnt want to do it and ruin her name but she wanted the money so she had her husband do it(play the part) for he works as a clown anyways. I believe Mike knows her as Bonnick when he saw her or his kids did. I Believe after he was aquitted he became upset with why
it didnt clear his name and started watching things like the court of last resort the conrad murray story.
and thats where he came up with it. In order for this to work Robert had to chabge his name and for her
to stay hidden she did to. Thats why they call her Blanche Yvette bonnick-Murray.  Hyphenated always means you can get rid of it when you need to.

[jennyruby]

Applied Pharmacy's address on the search warrant is correct. I rang the number myself as did another person back in Nov. At that time the were in the process of moving again and they confirmed the address.  They moved from
2851 N Tenaya Way Ste 202, Las Vegas, NV 89128 to 6370 W. Flamingo Road in 2008. Here's a link that shows the address in the  reviews section left by a Alan Burnstein in Dec 2008.
 
http://www.topix.com/yp/enterprise-nv/5 ... armacy-svc

They now have their new address listed with the same phone number. Businesses can move and be able to keep their business telephone number if the move within a certain proximity.  It's a common practice.

APPLIED PHARMACIES NEW LISTED ADDRESS
5785 S Fort Apache Rd # 100
Las Vegas, NV 89148 -5629
 (702) 304-0770

Like I said, I did ring the number back when the warrant originally came out and the person confirmed the address and that they were in the process of moving again (which they have done).  

I'm not deny that there is something fishy with Conrad Murray or the search warrant in general.  Something is up, that's for sure.

Jen Im taking this from my forum and posting it here

I know there are some doubters out there about applied Pharmacy so im going tell ya that applied pharmacy was never at the address in 2008 (search warrant) heres my proof

Master dental lab is in there now (October of 2009)
http://www.rateitall.com/i-113674-maste ... go-rd.aspx

Nilex was there in from august of 2008 -febuuary 2009-
http:////lasvegas.kudzu.com/merchant/17318907.html

AllState staffing was in there from November of 2007- to June of 2008
http://lasvegas.kudzu.com/merchant/1447957.html

I have contacted all these places
along with applied pharmacy, now applied just moved again, but it has nothing to do with that address

keep in mind that applied pharmacy services has to go along with this, its there name there using.
so im sure they will say thats them when it isnt.
so for them to say we were there in 2008, from june 0f 2008 till august of 2008? cause thats the only
Time that paticular address wasnt used.

Well I'm sorry, but I am going off the fact that I, myself called Applied Pharmacy whilst it was located at Flamingo. They weren't there until Aug 08. They were there when the search warrant was issued.  Now if you are being told something otherwise is a non issue for me. I know what I was told and will base my knowledge from that. I would appreciate not being alluded to as a liar or someone that doesn't know what they are talking about. I have been respectful enough when responding to posters here even if I disagree. Flamingo is also a large permises and has multiple businesses running from it.

I told everyone I will get the report off Inteluis regarding Conrad and I have done so. I am going through it now and will need to probably order another 2 in this process of verifying information which will include one for Blanche.

I don't understand why everyone is arguing. It's not about being the person who "breaks the case" or has all the "insider information".   We are in this together or are we? Cause half the time it seems like it's the them and the us.

Once I get a chance to go through them myself, I will post information for everyone that is relevant.

No one is arguing , or calling you a liar, we're calling Applied pharmacy Services liars.
I know what they told you they told me that to but what they didnt know is I already researched
other companys that were at that address and when they were there.
applied Pharmacy Services is in this sham and they are getting paid to Lie about where they were when.

[mjthelegendlives]

I don't believe he is married :lol:  she's the real doctor, family practice.  He's an office boy who she got together with and planned to dupe Michael out of his money.  He had used her for the children's colds.  She saw dollar signs, came up with the plan to have him pose as her hubby, the cardi, and bam.  She is probably the "girlfriend" he was on the phone talking to trying to get instructions on how to do cpr, since he obviously didn't have a clue.

Whoa...thats an interesting theory. That would explain the cpr on the bed.

I'm gonna say I have thought of this theory too for about the last month, that she was the Dr all along, hence the reason I'm going after her files as well. Want to try a cover as much ground as possible.

Anyway I got to get back to it.

HF...let us know what you learn, thanks  :)

[Happy Feet]

I don't believe he is married :lol:  she's the real doctor, family practice.  He's an office boy who she got together with and planned to dupe Michael out of his money.  He had used her for the children's colds.  She saw dollar signs, came up with the plan to have him pose as her hubby, the cardi, and bam.  She is probably the "girlfriend" he was on the phone talking to trying to get instructions on how to do cpr, since he obviously didn't have a clue.

I believe Michael or Michaels Kids were seeing Blanche and he asked her would she be apart of this
My personal doctor gave me propofol drama but she didnt want to do it and ruin her name but she wanted the money so she had her husband do it(play the part) for he works as a clown anyways. I believe Mike knows her as Bonnick when he saw her or his kids did. I Believe after he was aquitted he became upset with why
it didnt clear his name and started watching things like the court of last resort the conrad murray story.
and thats where he came up with it. In order for this to work Robert had to chabge his name and for her
to stay hidden she did to. Thats why they call her Blanche Yvette bonnick-Murray.  Hyphenated always means you can get rid of it when you need to.

Sorry. I apologise for making that assumption.  

Anyway I've printed off the 3 reports and am trying to cross reference them with one another. So far there is a Conrad Robert Murray with a listed alias of Conrad BonnickMurray on the intelius report.  Both are one in the same person with the DOB of Feb 19, 1953. There are 2 other birthdates being Feb 15, 1972 & Aug 15, 1939 (not sure why those are there) There are slight variations in ownership of properties, but they are very similar. BonnickMurray in both Conrad & Blanche's isn't hypenated. I think this might be his name as on the last page of both Conrad BonnickMurray & Blanche's their names are listed on each others, whereas on Conrad Robert Murray last page it is listed as Conaro Murray & Stacey O Murray.

Blanche Y BonnickMurray's report does merge in terms of properties/associates and relatives with both of Murray's reports with only slight variations. There is another Blanche Bonnick Murray, but my husband said I'm not allowed to order anymore  :lol:

Can someone give me an idea of how I can get these reports posted so others can investigate/sift through them themselves. At the moment I don't have much time  with 7 kids being home from school, plus I fly overseas in a weeks time, but am happy for others to use them.  The only idea I have is to possibly scan them into a document and then send them to whoever can analysis them.

So from scanning through what I have so far, they seem to be real people. Hopefully someone might be able to shed more light if I can get this information to you. For some reason something just seems off to me. Can't pinpoint it either.

[Happy Feet]

I think that Yvette Blanche Bonnick Murray married to Conrad Bonnick Murray
(she took his name I think)
Conrad Robert Murray is an alias(Like Michael Joseph Jackson and Michael Joe Jackson) , and Robert Earl Carter is his former name
That's my theory.

Not sure about the Robert Earl Carter name, but the rest of the stuff you said seem to be what the reports allude to.

[Christiana]

can someone PM please about this whole thing on Dr. Murray & also about the pharmacy or whatever?
i'm very confused & need help in comprehending.

thank you.

If someone PM's you with the simple explanation, please PM me too! I got lost about 3 pages ago. Sometimes I can't figure this crapola out when it gets this involved!  :cry:

[Christiana]

I don't believe he is married :lol:  she's the real doctor, family practice.  He's an office boy who she got together with and planned to dupe Michael out of his money.  He had used her for the children's colds.  She saw dollar signs, came up with the plan to have him pose as her hubby, the cardi, and bam.  She is probably the "girlfriend" he was on the phone talking to trying to get instructions on how to do cpr, since he obviously didn't have a clue.

I believe Michael or Michaels Kids were seeing Blanche and he asked her would she be apart of this
My personal doctor gave me propofol drama but she didnt want to do it and ruin her name but she wanted the money so she had her husband do it(play the part) for he works as a clown anyways. I believe Mike knows her as Bonnick when he saw her or his kids did. I Believe after he was aquitted he became upset with why
it didnt clear his name and started watching things like the court of last resort the conrad murray story.
and thats where he came up with it. In order for this to work Robert had to chabge his name and for her
to stay hidden she did to. Thats why they call her Blanche Yvette bonnick-Murray.  Hyphenated always means you can get rid of it when you need to.

Sorry. I apologise for making that assumption.  

Anyway I've printed off the 3 reports and am trying to cross reference them with one another. So far there is a Conrad Robert Murray with a listed alias of Conrad BonnickMurray on the intelius report.  Both are one in the same person with the DOB of Feb 19, 1953. There are 2 other birthdates being Feb 15, 1972 & Aug 15, 1939 (not sure why those are there) There are slight variations in ownership of properties, but they are very similar. BonnickMurray in both Conrad & Blanche's isn't hypenated. I think this might be his name as on the last page of both Conrad BonnickMurray & Blanche's their names are listed on each others, whereas on Conrad Robert Murray last page it is listed as Conaro Murray & Stacey O Murray.

Blanche Y BonnickMurray's report does merge in terms of properties/associates and relatives with both of Murray's reports with only slight variations. There is another Blanche Bonnick Murray, but my husband said I'm not allowed to order anymore  :lol:

Can someone give me an idea of how I can get these reports posted so others can investigate/sift through them themselves. At the moment I don't have much time  with 7 kids being home from school, plus I fly overseas in a weeks time, but am happy for others to use them.  The only idea I have is to possibly scan them into a document and then send them to whoever can analysis them.

So from scanning through what I have so far, they seem to be real people. Hopefully someone might be able to shed more light if I can get this information to you. For some reason something just seems off to me. Can't pinpoint it either.

If you can scan them and convert them to PDF's, you could upload them to a free file hosting site, like Box.net and then any of us can download them. There are also sites that will let you convert doc's into PDF for free.

http://en.pdf24.org/onlineConverter.html

http://www.freepdfconvert.com/default.asp

http://www.pdfonline.com/convert-pdf/

[Happy Feet]

Thanks Christiana, that's probably the best way for me to do it. I was gonna send the password to the inteluis account that was created but I realise it links directly to my credit card so anyone can access that to buy more. I'll start scanning them in the next hour and let you know via PM of them.

[andrea_garay2005]

can someone check Conrad Murray or this other name Robert Carl Carter on the FBI site? Like we had Michael's?
Maybe we can come up with smth.... :?:

[andrea_garay2005]

http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/sea ... right_view

if you search Conrad Murray on people finders there are 2 results: Conrad Murray and BonnickMurray Conrad with associated name Robert Earl Carter  :roll: . So are there 2 people?

[Happy Feet]

http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/searchpreview.aspx?fn=CONRAD&mn=ROBERT&ln=MURRAY&city=Las%20Vegas&state=NV&utm_source=criminalsearches&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=summary_right_view

if you search Conrad Murray on people finders there are 2 results: Conrad Murray and BonnickMurray Conrad with associated name Robert Earl Carter  :roll: . So are there 2 people?

Yeah I saw that too. Are you from America?  Only asking cause I wanted to know what the difference is between information provided by people.search and information provide by inteluis.  I'm not really sure which one is more reliable or accurate as I'm from Australia (I know reputable businesses here and which ones give out more accurate information then the others).

I've scanned all the files I just need someone to tell me how to merge folders into one x 3 whole documents and then post them. Can anyone help?

The thing is with Conrad, he does exist. BUT whether he's the one we are looking for remains to be seen. His and Blanche's information does match one anothers too, but the info being put out in the media especially these fake c/support ones differ. Also his Texas Medical Licence states a complete different DOB from that of both the people.search & inteluis info. However on his Texas Medical License it has info that is verified by the board and info that isn't but is provided by the licensee. There are address (well at least states & cities) that say where Dr Conrad Murray lived/study that match on both the people.search & inteluis info for Conrad R Murray aka Conrad R BonnickMurray.  Those states/cities to name a few being Loma Linda CA, Tucson AZ, San Deigo CA, Las Vegas NV. What are the chances of that happening unless they are all one in the same persons.

This confusion I'm sure has been created for a purpose. I wonder if Murray was creating aliases earlier on for fraudlent purposes (ie tax evasion, real estate etc) and possibly cut a deal the DA or whoever to be the fall guys in this and have this stuff wiped. If Michael really did get the governments help on this for serious reasons, that could be possible since Conrad R Murray seems to be the most elusive Dr I have ever known.  I'm not saying that to start a theory, just thinking that's all, so no psycho responses please from anyone  :lol:

Texas Licence Stuff on link below. Scroll down to page 2 which is information provided but not verified by medical board. Matches address on the people.search & inteluis.

http://reg.tmb.state.tx.us/OnLineVerif/ ... 75&Type=LP

Oh yeah, can someone give me a hand with posting those files.  Thanks in advance.

[jennyruby]

http://www.vitals.com/doctors/Dr_Blanch ... urray.html

Notice how the address for Blanche's Nevada practice match the search warrant for Murray's Cardio Vascular Associates

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/image ... arrant.pdf

[jennyruby]

Notice how Dr. Rawle andrews is listed as Murray's Father but yet His practice doesnt match
the one they searched for Murray in Houston
Dr. Rawle andrews                              
7901 West MontGomery Rd                    

http://www.blackhouston.com/request1.cf ... physicians

This the one they searched is suppose to be the home acre place where murray took the practice over
for his dad Dr. Rawle andrews. The Home acre place
Armstrong Medical Clinic
6826 West Montgomery Rd

http://1.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images ... davits.pdf
Go to page 24

Notice that place is owned by someone else
http://www.healthcare.com/profile/davill-armstrong

Notice that Armstrong Medical clinic is suppose to be where Murray went back to work
http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/23/dr-conrad ... rk-houston

Shouldnt he be returning back to his fathers Practice
like they said????

The home acre place supposably was started by Dr. Rawle andrews, the story is Conrad murray
took it over, so how come the address isnt right on the search warrant. Home Acre Place is not
a part of Medical clinic armstrong. Like The Police and the media have said.

[jennyruby]

Notice that conrad murray(practice) is at this address for Houston texas

http://www.healthgrades.com/directory_s ... 1459BD.cfm

Notice that conrad murray(practice) is listed at this address for Nevada

http://www.wellness.com/dir/2355044/car ... r-assoc-md

Notice its the same address 3121 but for different states????
and 3121  address isnt on any of the search warrants

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

look there isnt any search warrants that are legit
therefore there isnt any crime thats been commited or
any real investigation ever on Murray. There has never been
any Public statement from police/Dea or Coroners office.
Craig harvey works in hollywood.   He Creates fake autopsys.
all of this 'investigation' on Murray has only been reported by the media
that its being done.  all of this is fake and not true
No one came out from the Police and did a Public Statement.
No one came out from The Dea and did a Public statement
No one came out from the coroners Office.
Craig harvey is the 'spokeperson"
think about it remeber when they were going to investigate Michael and or arrest him
in 1993 and 2003 there were press conferences made by Police/prosecutors.
Jermaine is the one who said Michael died
Not any Doctors.....
Murray didnt sign the death certificate and either did anyone form the coroners office.
Murray isnt a doctor. thats why he didnt sign it, The coroner isnt in this, thats why he didnt sign it.

Hey jenny!! Nice to meet you!! if you are jruby then I commend you on your work!

To everyone,

Have any of you heard of the Ocaam's Razor theory?  I think we need to apply this theory in MJ's "death"

Read this link and focus on the explaination of crop circles....its the best example of what Occams AZOR is. I have posted this theory before...a few moths ago.....if you do not understand the theory,,please ask cus it is important that you understand it. Here is a link..
http://www.seanparnell.com/Hyperion%20C ... 0Razor.htm

[jennyruby]

thank You and yep Im Jruby

[hesouttamylife]

This is in a word SCANDALOUS :lol:   Got me workin, workin day and nite!  But it's ALL FOR LOVE 8-)

[jennyruby]

its really not about proproperties or what robert earl carter bought from Blanche
Its about whats on the search warrants
that link blanche and not Murray

[tinker_bell]

Have any of you heard of the Ocaam's Razor theory?  I think we need to apply this theory in MJ's "death"

Read this link and focus on the explaination of crop circles....its the best example of what Occams AZOR is. I have posted this theory before...a few moths ago.....if you do not understand the theory,,please ask cus it is important that you understand it. Here is a link..[/color]
http://www.seanparnell.com/Hyperion%20C ... 0Razor.htm

What a brilliant post! I just loved it! Thanks!

I've felt it must be much simplier than some 10-story theories we're sometimes building here, and the scientific approach rocks!

Actually, once thinking from this pespective... i'm stuck by how simple it may actually be!

[See]

[See]

I know this may come as a surprize for y´all, but I, yes I´m talking about me, DO NOT GET IT!!! :oops:  :lol:  :lol:
So Conrad is really fake, is that the conclusion.... :roll:
Could you guys put some screenshots of the Earl link plzzzzzzz

[MJDHI]

New information on Dr. Blanche Murray and her mysterious relationship with Conrad.

http://http://spotlight.vitals.com/2010/01/is-dr-conrad-murray-a-facade-for-dr-blanche-yvette-bolick-murray/

[See]

New information on Dr. Blanche Murray and her mysterious relationship with Conrad.

http://http://spotlight.vitals.com/2010/01/is-dr-conrad-murray-a-facade-for-dr-blanche-yvette-bolick-murray/

is this a reliable site...what the h3ll is going on here!!!..
Is there anything consictend in this case, seriously what is going on...

edit * P.S....(how rude of me) Welcome to the site and thanks for the post  :mrgreen:

[TinkerbellLovesMJ]

New information on Dr. Blanche Murray and her mysterious relationship with Conrad.

http://http://spotlight.vitals.com/2010/01/is-dr-conrad-murray-a-facade-for-dr-blanche-yvette-bolick-murray/

Great post and welcome to the forum MJDHI! Something is odd with that site. It doesn't seem to be a professional site for physicians. More like a tabloid gossip blog is what it looks like to me. If you go to the homepage it looks like a TMZ version about doctors. :lol: It would be intersting to know who runs that blog.

[Happy Feet]

New information on Dr. Blanche Murray and her mysterious relationship with Conrad.

http://http://spotlight.vitals.com/2010/01/is-dr-conrad-murray-a-facade-for-dr-blanche-yvette-bolick-murray/

Great post and welcome to the forum MJDHI! Something is odd with that site. It doesn't seem to be a professional site for physicians. More like a tabloid gossip blog is what it looks like to me. If you go to the homepage it looks like a TMZ version about doctors. :lol: It would be intersting to know who runs that blog.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  No that doesn't look like a professionally run website. It's a mockup of the real vitals website for Dr's and tabloid info.  This is the real vitals link.  http://www.vitals.com.

This info isn't new the person posted it on the MJDHI forum under their original username.  

Hi MJDHI, nice to meet you again.

[Happy Feet]

Ok, here's the link to  the thread regarding all the Conrad vs Robert vs Blanche inteluis files and Conrad's VERIFIED Texas Medical Board Certificate.  I paid over $180 Aus dollars for these files. They are not some tabloid or blogsite type of info.  They are records kept by agencies regarding the said persons.

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3246&p=51240#p51240

Read them and come to your own conclusions.

[Kirsche]

you're a good person for doing this !!! You're so right about the fact that
there's indeed no need for all this division crap ,we all want the same thing !!
You rock!!

United we stand.. Divided we fall :)

She has some cool pictures and warrants and stuff posted. Really check it out :) Its amazing. Thank you so much for your kind words

Yeah! United we stand, divided we fall! Gotta gotta gotta go!!

It's great!   Now I am  100% sure....HOAX!!

[Nakiska]

Wow! Am I late for this discussion...
I just wanted to say that I really think that the man we see in the news is a doctor. I say this because if he werent then surely somebody that knew him from the past would come forward and unmasked him.
Also I remember reading on a forum a post from someone who said that his father was his longtime patient. I dont have the link anymore, but this was discussed either here or on the other forum.
Imagine this: if the man that we see in the news is not a doctor and is someone else, wouldnt someone who know his true identity begin to ask questions and to tell everyone that he is lying? Like a friend from the past, ex-girlfriends, family, work associates etc
I dont think is logical to say that the man we see is not a doctor.
I hope I made myself clear :)

[mdc]

OK, not sure where to ask this so since it involves the DEA searching Dr. Blanche Murray office building...I was just wondering what was up with this LVPD officer. I mean what's up with the hood?

(There are 2 other pics of him but just going to link to one.)

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/TDlLQeaK ... 2mRzoA9P4i

[Kirsche]

I would like to know, since when profiles like these :   http://www.vitals.com/doctor/profile/1730137340

are existing? Because it is mentioned that he changed his name at around February 2009 and so I'm interested to know when these profiles of him were added??   Is somebody here able to find that out? I'm not technical freak :D

[voiceforthesilent]

I know most of you don't like me or whatever, but anyways I like to believe that we are all here for the same reason..

Please read this


Hi guys,
yes I did find out who Murray really is
I went to peoplefinders.com and found out that
his real name is Robert Earl Carter and he is married to Blanche Yvette Bonnick Murray. According to DMV records Robert Earl Carter and his wife live
at 2579 Red Springs Drive in Las vegas, Now this isnt the address that the "police searched" for their Home but they do own Both properties. Now
Dr. Blanche Yvette Bonnick Murray has a practice
at 2110 east flamingo unit 301, Now this address is very important because its listed on the warrant for Global cardiovascular associates. and it isnt its her Nevada paractice and shes a family Doctor.
Now also Robert Changed his name on his license in
Febuary of 2009 to "conrad murray" and then he boght properties in Conrad Murrays Name. Now when You google Conrad Murray Global Associates you get
3121 south maryland pkwy, not 2110 east flamingo which is on the warrant, Now if you Google conrad murray Houston Texas you get that same address of 3121 south Maryland Pkwy but its listed for Houston texas. Now this Medical clinic armstrong that he supposably works at is owned by Dr davil armstrong
and his medical licensce was suspeneded in 2006, but he owns the building at 6826 west Montgomery Road
Houston Texas 77091. There hasnt been patients in there for a while. his Phone numebr of his office is 713-692-1000.
Also "murray" has 1 adult daughter named Monique lee Carter and Blanche has 1 adult daughter named Maureen
Ray Rose. "murray" doesnt have any "other children
according to Peoplefinders.com And Both adult children live with them at that address.

something else I found out which I think might be important, remember when that car was towed at mjs house and they said murray was driving it but it belonged to his sister Susan Rush, well I noticed on peoplefinders it listed Susan rush as an associate or roommate of the "murray's. So I did a googe check on her well I couldnt figure out if she is related to them or if she is a real person, The name Susan rush is a personal circus, like the Circus is called susan rush, and the address for whoever owns the circus is 10629 Sandpiper Dr# 14 Houston texas 77096
well That address is owned by robert Earl carter.
so im thinking its him who owns the Circus. the Suzan rush circus comes(performs) from Magnolia Texas. So the car that was owned by "suzan rush"
may have been "Murray"s work car. If you Google
the name Robert earl carter 2 things come up one that
there is a obstrician that is named robert earl carter from Ca, and 2 a circus owner. so Im thinking this dude really does circus things.
remember though when mj died the police couldnt find murray so they went to Suzan Rush"s house to find him
or question her about where he was well they went to
robert earl carters House. It was all staged from the getgo
so Im thinking This Dr. Blanche Murray is the real
Dr Murray, and that their is no "conrad murray who is
a cardiologist, However it makes sense I think
that perhaps this Dr Blanche Murray is who may have treated Michaels kids in Vegas considering she is
a Family doctor. This may be the real doctor that
may go on tour with Michael eventually.

I think her real name might be Blanche Yvette Bonnick Carter.


IF you read the actual post you will see that all of the information has been very backed up with well researched evidence... Yeah  lol Dr.Murray is busted

This is the most insightful and well researched information yet.  And it makes the most sense of all.  I'm amazed at your detective skills.  Bravo.

[Nathalia]

Not sure if this was said already,
But this would explain the circus in town right before Michael's "memorial"  ;)

[raphaelleanique]

http://gawker.com/5453659/hugh-jackman- ... on-musical

I was looking for the PT Barnum musical and ended up with this. Does anybody know more, Which musical is this supposed to be?

[Hoaxornot]

Unfortunately I have to burst your bubble
But Conrad Murray is REAL and a cardiologist.. This I know for a FACT since my BF is a friend of his
He was born on the island of Tobago in the Caribbean... But I have posted this before
I want to know about if this is a hoax or not.. but when i see everybody getting so excited about somebody who did a wrong search.. I am starting to believe that the others are also wrong and maybe Michael did die
Please get your facts together. I am sure source that Dr Conrad Murray is real.. Now what can we find?

I am starting to have the feeling that Michael did die but is not buried where they say he is

Remember the Story about John F Kennedy. That he is not in Arlington but he was thrown in the ocean. This way all traces were gone and no way of proving that Oswald was not the one who killed Kennedy

I am getting really confused
I just hope he is alive but I do not want to be like Elvis fans who still believe he is alive... they just could not let go and it became ridiculous

So please before posting something and getting everybody excited, be sure your sources are correct
maybe we should start another topic with everything we know is real

[MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs]

And I found this:  http://blog.taragana.com/e/2009/08/05/h ... man-22026/

..."things that make you go hmmmm"..... ?!?!?!?!   8-)

http://gawker.com/5453659/hugh-jackman-prepares-for-lead-role-in-michael-jackson-musical

I was looking for the PT Barnum musical and ended up with this. Does anybody know more, Which musical is this supposed to be?

[simplyme]

I know most of you don't like me or whatever, but anyways I like to believe that we are all here for the same reason..

Please read this


Hi guys,
yes I did find out who Murray really is
I went to peoplefinders.com and found out that
his real name is Robert Earl Carter and he is married to Blanche Yvette Bonnick Murray. According to DMV records Robert Earl Carter and his wife live
at 2579 Red Springs Drive in Las vegas, Now this isnt the address that the "police searched" for their Home but they do own Both properties. Now
Dr. Blanche Yvette Bonnick Murray has a practice
at 2110 east flamingo unit 301, Now this address is very important because its listed on the warrant for Global cardiovascular associates. and it isnt its her Nevada paractice and shes a family Doctor.
Now also Robert Changed his name on his license in
Febuary of 2009 to "conrad murray" and then he boght properties in Conrad Murrays Name. Now when You google Conrad Murray Global Associates you get
3121 south maryland pkwy, not 2110 east flamingo which is on the warrant, Now if you Google conrad murray Houston Texas you get that same address of 3121 south Maryland Pkwy but its listed for Houston texas. Now this Medical clinic armstrong that he supposably works at is owned by Dr davil armstrong
and his medical licensce was suspeneded in 2006, but he owns the building at 6826 west Montgomery Road
Houston Texas 77091. There hasnt been patients in there for a while. his Phone numebr of his office is 713-692-1000.
Also "murray" has 1 adult daughter named Monique lee Carter and Blanche has 1 adult daughter named Maureen
Ray Rose. "murray" doesnt have any "other children
according to Peoplefinders.com And Both adult children live with them at that address.

something else I found out which I think might be important, remember when that car was towed at mjs house and they said murray was driving it but it belonged to his sister Susan Rush, well I noticed on peoplefinders it listed Susan rush as an associate or roommate of the "murray's. So I did a googe check on her well I couldnt figure out if she is related to them or if she is a real person, The name Susan rush is a personal circus, like the Circus is called susan rush, and the address for whoever owns the circus is 10629 Sandpiper Dr# 14 Houston texas 77096
well That address is owned by robert Earl carter.
so im thinking its him who owns the Circus. the Suzan rush circus comes(performs) from Magnolia Texas. So the car that was owned by "suzan rush"
may have been "Murray"s work car. If you Google
the name Robert earl carter 2 things come up one that
there is a obstrician that is named robert earl carter from Ca, and 2 a circus owner. so Im thinking this dude really does circus things.
remember though when mj died the police couldnt find murray so they went to Suzan Rush"s house to find him
or question her about where he was well they went to
robert earl carters House. It was all staged from the getgo
so Im thinking This Dr. Blanche Murray is the real
Dr Murray, and that their is no "conrad murray who is
a cardiologist, However it makes sense I think
that perhaps this Dr Blanche Murray is who may have treated Michaels kids in Vegas considering she is
a Family doctor. This may be the real doctor that
may go on tour with Michael eventually.

I think her real name might be Blanche Yvette Bonnick Carter.


IF you read the actual post you will see that all of the information has been very backed up with well researched evidence... Yeah  lol Dr.Murray is busted

This is the most insightful and well researched information yet.  And it makes the most sense of all.  I'm amazed at your detective skills.  Bravo.

Dr. Murray has always been a Murray and there's no way a person could find out someone changed the name on their drivers license unless they worked at motor veh.  so what is the source for the drivers license thing... people finder is not a good or complete source for anything.  Sources are important.  Dr. Murray has owned property in Nevada for a very long time - years.  If you go the the LasVegas assesors site you can look it all up.  There are a couple different links at the site.  One of them give much information.

[simplyme]

I'm trying to make this make sense in my mind but I'm failing miserably. If anybody has any theories on the whys and wherefores I'd love to hear them...

Isn't Murray practicing again? Haven't some of the members here even called the office to schedule fake appointments? Why would Jackson hire a circus owner to play the doctor who supposedly kills him and why would said circus owner agree to do it? What the heck is the purpose of creating a false story about a child support case if in fact there is no child to support?

I am so thoroughly confused. Thanks for sharing though.

The support hearings arent real the one with the Gilda money was fake by a retired judge remember? So I believe they are all fake backing up the theroy that he is an actor.

@OP OMFG awesome awesome you have made my entire year and what I just saw on the Jack5ons twitter seals it "working up to a secret finale that will BLOW YOUR MIND. Isnt that what MJ said he wanted to do? And TheRealKennyOrtega has some interesting tweets too...OMG Hes coming!!!

That "retired" judge was called back into service because something happened with the other just.  I think the link is posted somewhere on this site.  It wasn't fake. Sorry.

[TouchedByAnAngel]

TMZ is pretty obvious revealing the HOAX these days

http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/13/dr-conrad ... s-picture/

Notice the word CARNIVAL in bold? Like a Circus....lol. It's late and I'm tired but this is so in your face you don't need to read between any lines.

I've missed everybody here, will try to stop in later today after I've had a few Zzzzzz's


Blessed to have been,
TouchedByAnAngel

http://twitter.com/TouchedByAngelM

[Hoaxornot]

Yes there is a pretty famous carnaval in T&T Islands
So what is weird about it?

[giannip]

I don't know if someone can help or if this has been discussed, but while watching this video (http://http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=7d503f79-a9c1-4111-83ce-2c74c34e4642&isShareURL=true) on tmz I understood that that is the place where Dr. CM is working.
We know that his office is in LA and you can see from the video that number "6725-3" is shown above the entrance but while checking this with the information provided at the beginning of this thread, I found no correlation. Maybe it's nothing, maybe this is a track we can follow.

As I live very far away I can't personally check what's really there.... but maybe someone could get there and see if Murray really has his office there and ask some questions about him.
Just an idea...

[simplyme]

I know most of you don't like me or whatever, but anyways I like to believe that we are all here for the same reason..

Please read this


Hi guys,
yes I did find out who Murray really is
I went to peoplefinders.com and found out that
his real name is Robert Earl Carter and he is married to Blanche Yvette Bonnick Murray. According to DMV records Robert Earl Carter and his wife live
at 2579 Red Springs Drive in Las vegas, Now this isnt the address that the "police searched" for their Home but they do own Both properties. Now
Dr. Blanche Yvette Bonnick Murray has a practice
at 2110 east flamingo unit 301, Now this address is very important because its listed on the warrant for Global cardiovascular associates. and it isnt its her Nevada paractice and shes a family Doctor.
Now also Robert Changed his name on his license in
Febuary of 2009 to "conrad murray" and then he boght properties in Conrad Murrays Name. Now when You google Conrad Murray Global Associates you get
3121 south maryland pkwy, not 2110 east flamingo which is on the warrant, Now if you Google conrad murray Houston Texas you get that same address of 3121 south Maryland Pkwy but its listed for Houston texas. Now this Medical clinic armstrong that he supposably works at is owned by Dr davil armstrong
and his medical licensce was suspeneded in 2006, but he owns the building at 6826 west Montgomery Road
Houston Texas 77091. There hasnt been patients in there for a while. his Phone numebr of his office is 713-692-1000.
Also "murray" has 1 adult daughter named Monique lee Carter and Blanche has 1 adult daughter named Maureen
Ray Rose. "murray" doesnt have any "other children
according to Peoplefinders.com And Both adult children live with them at that address.

something else I found out which I think might be important, remember when that car was towed at mjs house and they said murray was driving it but it belonged to his sister Susan Rush, well I noticed on peoplefinders it listed Susan rush as an associate or roommate of the "murray's. So I did a googe check on her well I couldnt figure out if she is related to them or if she is a real person, The name Susan rush is a personal circus, like the Circus is called susan rush, and the address for whoever owns the circus is 10629 Sandpiper Dr# 14 Houston texas 77096
well That address is owned by robert Earl carter.
so im thinking its him who owns the Circus. the Suzan rush circus comes(performs) from Magnolia Texas. So the car that was owned by "suzan rush"
may have been "Murray"s work car. If you Google
the name Robert earl carter 2 things come up one that
there is a obstrician that is named robert earl carter from Ca, and 2 a circus owner. so Im thinking this dude really does circus things.
remember though when mj died the police couldnt find murray so they went to Suzan Rush"s house to find him
or question her about where he was well they went to
robert earl carters House. It was all staged from the getgo
so Im thinking This Dr. Blanche Murray is the real
Dr Murray, and that their is no "conrad murray who is
a cardiologist, However it makes sense I think
that perhaps this Dr Blanche Murray is who may have treated Michaels kids in Vegas considering she is
a Family doctor. This may be the real doctor that
may go on tour with Michael eventually.

I think her real name might be Blanche Yvette Bonnick Carter.


IF you read the actual post you will see that all of the information has been very backed up with well researched evidence... Yeah  lol Dr.Murray is busted

I don't think it's as complicated as all that.  If Monique's last name is Carter [maiden name Murray] it's probably because she is or was married to this Robert Carter fellow.  Dr. Conrad Murray is Dr. Conrad Murray.

[AThousandTimes]

I just read on another forum that it was said during the trial that the Robert Earl Carter story is real? Haven't really heard anything else about it.... does anyone know?

[underthemoon]

So this treat was linked from Dr. Arnold Klein on Twitter. He always had said that he don't know Conrad Murray.
The men in court ...we where told he was Conrad Murray...who is he ? Only a actor, a dummy....that could be the reason that he can't testify and he seems so emotionless...

[Ijustcantstoplovingu]

Dr Kline has posted a line to this thread on the forum on his facebook page .....  and sorry I dont seem to be able to paste the link on facebook heis Arnold W Kline and you will see the link half way down the page.  This is in addition to the link he posted on twitter.


Strange and stranger.   :shock:

[use_your_illusion]

Wonder why he decided to tweet about this now, he obviously checks this forum so I won't be surprised if he is a forum member on here....also I wonder if the Jackson's will find out that Arnie is tweeting this and if they do, will they talk about it.

[Tink.I.Am]

I see his  facebook messages..  but  he links this  to lots of other sites aswell.. anyway,,..
who is to say that this is really Kleains facebookpage  and not  another  believer posing as him??
I don't see any evidence to say that it is  100% infact the real Klein

I would rather say that this is the real Dr. Klein http://www.facebook.com/#!/Number1Dermatologist

[reveron1958]

This is Arnold Klein's correct Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/arnold.klein



BTW why do I get a box up with my avatar when I try to paste anything into the reply box?

I am not able to copy and paste stuff here anymore, I have to type it all out.  /pull hair/

[reveron1958]

Can't paste anything here, but Arnie is Tweeting links to this forum and links to William Wagener's You Tube video about Murry being Robert Carter.

[everlastinglove_MJ]

I believe that Arnold Klein surely has a role in the hoax. His recent tweets about CM being Robert Earl Carter and the links to this forum seem a contribution to increase beLIEvers, which is the purpose in the hoax timeline. Or... he thinks "totally nuts this forum" crash/.. nah don't think so ;D

[fordtocarr]

Well, I believe it's his twitter  it has other medical stuff on there.  He goes to conferences and links to them too.  I've been tweeting him a few days now...
Anyone know if he even sees my tweets if I'm following him, but he is not following me!!  I know he can look at my page..but does he GET my tweets?
Like if we tweet LaToya..does she get them?
Also, I still don't know why Arnie isn't allowed in court but his records are.  O..not his records, because he DID say the records are NOT his!!
So, I'm thinking that No Arnie in court...fake Arnie records...Fake Murray..all means this is a movie/or sting or both. 
Maybe really, Arnie was out of the country during the trial so they just omitted him from the script.
Time will tell!!

[reveron1958]

OK, if I want to paste I have to use Control V :-)

I'm sure it is his Twitter too Ford.

[missudi]

I remember reading about conrad murray and this Earl carter,over 12 months ago,but nothing ever came of it,Perhaps some people have only just learnt of it,so its back in the news.

[Miss.Peppers]

Arnold Klein brought me here...   WTF??

[use_your_illusion]

Arnold Klein brought me here...   WTF??

Haha Miss Peppers...by the way WB, haven't seen you in a while.

[Suzy7]

If I remember correctly they did mention some of this early on in the trial. The media spoke about his wife and her being a doctor aswell as them living together and having an adult daughter. They also used her name; so if thats true then the rest most likely is aswell. I also read Murray purchased a property owned by Thomé, cant find the link though.
It makes sense if all of this is true, its fitting. Fictional characters, storyline and HIStory all created for the hoax. And yes, patients, baby mama's and child support too.

[bec]

Betcha Robert Earl Carter's name was changed to Dr. Conrad Murray to fit with the lyrics of Smooth Criminal; "Doctor Murray rescessitation".

[curls]

^^ I think it was changed to fit 'The Court Of Last Resort' episode entitled 'The Conrad Murray Case'!

[Suzy7]

 I think both could be true. Pianogames/codeofthriller had a good video on that episode. It's funny how Michael had several songs depicting doctors, drugs, crime scenes and cpr lol.
 
 Conrad *Robert* Murray and *Robert* Earl Carter- another name connection is also the director for To Kill A Mockingbird who is named Robert; one of Michaels favs--about a similar court case ofcourse.
Btw when I mentioned media discussed (confirmed) this, it was HLN specifically.

[raphaelleanique]

http://dianajeann.blogspot.com/2010/01/drconrad-murray-revealed.html

I am in a hurry, so I probably send you a link which someone else already posted. What I find interesting is the discussion down below the post, sorry if double posted!

[annieareyouokannie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHQ9vfqwc7M

VERY interesting!!!!!

[use_your_illusion]

Isn't there a doc who's name is also Conrad Murray and he comes from Houston, but he isn't this Conrad Murray (Robert Earl Carter)?