Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 07, 2010, 12:40:19 PM
His body seems darker than his face.. And his face should been darker because of the light..

Weird.

Hahaha.. Is it just me or does it seems like the face is 'cut & paste'? Look at the mouth.. a black line devorce the 'mask' and his face. The mask seems to just cover his mouth, then it kinda sinks in his cheecks.. I also wonder what is on his ear.. That kinda arrow thing ^
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 07, 2010, 12:41:14 PM
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There is only a difference in the light as far as I can see ?
Yes,that and you see more of the EMTs, car reflection, badges seem a little more clear and there's some sort of flash on the EMTs back. At lest it wasn't what people thought it was, a picture of a bald MJ.  It's pretty much the same as the first ambulance picture but it's not zoomed in. ;)  
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 07, 2010, 12:49:31 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
They are two different photos taken within milliseconds of each other because of the subtle differences.

Look at the position of the car in the two.. i keep saying this and no-one listens.  Look at the position of the car headlight in relation to the paramedics legs.  Different.

Also.. MJ looks lighter skin tone.  Hmmm.. we sure these are photoshopped??   :?


I dont know what you are trying to say.. But I don't belive it was one single photo, editet into two different ones.. Because no one can fix angels and movements, as long you only have one picture..

But look at the picture.. As I said.. The body is darker than his face, and his face should be darker then..
Why is it a black line between his mouth and the mask.. Why is the mask like pushed inside his cheecks..
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 07, 2010, 01:23:50 PM
Don't think you're heading for a padded cell.
There's still more to it - read what has been identified already:

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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 07, 2010, 01:27:57 PM
What i am saying is this is a different picture than the one OK magazine published.  It was taken probably a second later or earlier due to the subtle differences.  The position of the red car is different.
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 11, 2010, 05:30:05 PM
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to me it looks like the first is much better quality

It looks like the 2nd one was taken a split second after the first.. the car is further forwards...
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 11, 2010, 05:38:10 PM
At least that means that he wasent dead in the ambulance :?  If he moved his head..... but still :(
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 18, 2010, 12:47:54 PM
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Didn't MJ own one himself?
a ambulance?

Yes, either an ambulance or a fire engine

yeah both... he used to let the community borrow them in an emergency.  ;)
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 18, 2010, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
His body seems darker than his face.. And his face should been darker because of the light..

Weird.

Hahaha.. Is it just me or does it seems like the face is 'cut & paste'? Look at the mouth.. a black line devorce the 'mask' and his face. The mask seems to just cover his mouth, then it kinda sinks in his cheecks.. I also wonder what is on his ear.. That kinda arrow thing ^

What about the discoloration being the lighting, because the ambulance personal look dark too.. and I assume they are just plain white guys LOL... But then again it is LA hmmmm
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 20, 2010, 06:15:49 PM
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Hello everyone,
We discussed this in chat last night after discovering this image in a new hoax video.   After some research, the photo was linked to an EMT discussion forum - a poster named "Daphne" asked the EMT's if the ambulance looked to be an older or new one based on the photo.

At first we thought..hmm...is this the undiscovered "original" photo, or did "Daphne" photoshop the face to disguise MJ when posting.

Since it caused quite a stir in chat I wanted to open this up to all of the investigators on here.  I've tried to PM "Daphne" to inquire about the photo...
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Here is a screen shot and web address of the message board this was found on (you have to register on the site to view the post "live")


I tried to compare this photo with an existing ambulance photo I had, but the photo I had wasn't the same exact photo (not as much of the background is visible).  If anyone has an exact match of the equivalent photo with MJ, please post. Scroll to see both pics...


So one of these photos is a photoshop... which one?   The new one is either a photoshop or an old man...

I've shown the  photo to my boyfriend ( he's a photoshop freak) and he immediately said "That photo is a fake! When you're good in photoshop then nobody would recognize that this photo is fake" So this old frail man can not be Michael. This pic can't be real because the Oxygen maske doesn't fit.....On that picutre it looks like his face is turned to the right side, with eyes closed, without wig etc. But then, the oxygen mask would be set on the chin? It's totally  fake, the angle doesnn't fit and the hands of the paramedic doing CPR would push on the neck...so FAKE!!!
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 22, 2010, 03:59:21 AM
I'm sorry but has anyone ever thought about this:

His chest is visible, his head, his neck, wouldn't we be able to see Vitiligo spots?
No offence, but I guess they didn't had the time to do his makeup FIRST then take him to the hospital SECOND?...

Just a thought..

Also the second ambulance picture does look like a fake to me, or maybe it's a "double shot" you know? when you've made some pictures with a disposable camera, sometimes the images are over eachother? otherwise that second picture doesn't make sense to me, since the breahting tube (which I also have my doubts about) shouldn't be in someone neck! And when someone turns their head with a breathing tube in his or her throat, shouldn't the breathing tube also turn to the side a little bit?

(About the breahting tube: is there really even one?, to me it seems like the shelf of one but I don't see a real TUBE? it even almost looks like the ambulance man's finger is going TRHU the "breathing tube" or is it just me?  :lol:  )
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 22, 2010, 04:27:08 AM
ok i have 2 ideas from this...one as if michael were alive and the other as if michael was really dead
ok if MJ is dead...Maybe they blurred out the picture for privacy issues...who knows maybe the family requested it...im not quite sure but MAYBE there is that SMALL chance...
But if he were really alive i got a CRAZY idea...ok pay attention closely because i dont know if i will be able to make sense...WHAT IF the picture with the blurry face is one that ( the photographer) picked because he saw it on the emt forum and wAS like perfect!! it looks similiar to MJs body build...i think i can work with this and then he simply stuck a picture of MJ's face on there which explains the misplacement of the breathing instruments and all that stuff who knows heehee...but MAYBE they saw that picture and used it to photoshop MJ into it because it did look similiar to MJs body build...Im just saying because MJs skin looked quite healthy in that pic for him supposely being dead for a few hours before actually having 911 called who knows?? you never know and we may never know...hmm....i wonder for the blurr because i tried adjusting the blurred picture and everything to see if maybe it was just the enhancements crap and nope its def blurred on purpose ugh this is frustrating
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 22, 2010, 04:29:00 AM
This new discovered photo look crazy.  I'm sorry but it doesn't even look like a face.  It looks all distorted and blurred out or something.  I don't know what's up with this pic.  Maybe it was photoshopped and the real person's face was blurred out and replaced by MJ's face.  Who knows?  Also is it just me or does the equipment in the ambulance look hecka old like from the 80's.
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 22, 2010, 04:41:32 AM
I remeber that the one who had posted this pic from the start said, that the one she had got the pic from, had BLURRED it, to protect Michaels privacy :?  But then, why post something when it's so hard to see actually who it is.....
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 22, 2010, 07:15:27 PM
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I remeber that the one who had posted this pic from the start said, that the one she had got the pic from, had BLURRED it, to protect Michaels privacy :?  But then, why post something when it's so hard to see actually who it is.....

Yeah right? :roll:   The paparazzi is scandalous and they would not protect his privacy.  Let's be real that man had no privacy when ever he was out in public.  If this really was his death photo they shouldn't have taken it in the first place if they wanted to respect his privacy.  They all about that dollar bill that's why they do it for the money not because they enjoy taking photos of celebrties as a hobby. :!:
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 22, 2010, 11:35:17 PM
The older man can't be him IMO.  The way he runs and jumps around on stage, it would be really difficult to keep the wig on straight wouldn't it? I do believe he had some baldness but he wasn't totally bald.  Also, wasn't he supposed to have a tatoo on his front hairline? Also, he still had eyebrows right?  That old man had no eyebrows and no tatoo on his hairline.  Also odd was the car. I don't buy this as genuine.  I believe the photo was mocked up in order to try and get the paramedics to talk.  If they knew who the person in the ambulance was they would be less likely to say anything, right?
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 23, 2010, 12:53:15 AM
I never saw this new pic before tonight.

I agree with 'i need you's post about the possibility of the 2nd pic being used and then photoshopped to put a recognizable image of Michael onto it.

Now the question to me is: was the original photograph Michael or not?


I ask that because
1)Yes, it's blurry and the head is turned to the side.  But if the paramedic on the left is doing chest compressions, that can cause the head to turn to one side or the other.  
2)Yes, that pic of "MJ" is paler than the 1st one, but the 1st one is obviously photoshopped with an old pic.  Also, there wouldn't be a lot of obvious vitiligo spots because his upper half is mostly white at this point.  No need for makeup on his arms and chest.  You can see it in close ups of making of "They Don't Care About Us" - the Brazil version.  His shirt is open and he has on short sleeves.  His skin is about 90% white, with a few brown spots here and there.
3)It's possible that he shaved his head bald since he wore wigs all the time.  
4)The 2 pics do look like they were taken within seconds of each other from slightly differen angles.  It also looked like the paramedic holding the bag moved slightly.

It's late so I'm not sure if I make sense.  I'm just trying to look at all the possibilities.
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 23, 2010, 08:26:08 AM
I just realized there ARE 2 pictures of the ambulance take a look at these 2:



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Spot the differences :)

(The leg near his head, the colour of his skin "Could also be because of the camera right?" his eyebrows, that vein on his forehead, the hand near his nose, his nose ...)

Could this mean what Ben Evanstad said? (That day and the other d uh...)?
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 24, 2010, 09:06:29 AM
Quote from: "Missyb007"
I just realized there ARE 2 pictures of the ambulance take a look at these 2:



and




Spot the differences :)

(The leg near his head, the colour of his skin "Could also be because of the camera right?" his eyebrows, that vein on his forehead, the hand near his nose, his nose ...)

Could this mean what Ben Evanstad said? (That day and the other d uh...)?


I noticed the bag on the left down corner.. On the first picture it's closed, the second is opened..
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 24, 2010, 09:20:07 AM
What about this one?



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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 24, 2010, 12:56:13 PM
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What about this one?

That's just the way it's cropped and sized.
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 24, 2010, 03:51:40 PM
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I have just realized this man appears not to have any tatoos on his head.  didn't the autopsy say he had tatoos on his head at the front by the hairline?  

Phew!  I was worried for a while there I thought maybe it was him
That is just what I was going to say we were told about the tattoo on Michael head this is not showing   thank god
I f you look at these pics there is a visible tattoo close to the hairline... If you zoom in on the pics its very clear to see. But that's good, because then this ambulance pic MUST be fake ;)[attachment=0:1b9y5p20]tattoo hairline.jpg[/attachment:1b9y5p20]
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 28, 2010, 06:43:37 PM
i dont know why but looking at the pic at the top of the thread reminds me of the film total recall - dont know why and also judge dread when they discover the photo of Dread as a boy with his parents was photoshopped with state of the art tech.
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Re: Odd New Ambulance Photo Discovered on EMT Forum

  • on: January 28, 2010, 06:51:28 PM
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i dont know why but looking at the pic at the top of the thread reminds me of the film total recall - dont know why and also judge dread when they discover the photo of Dread as a boy with his parents was photoshopped with state of the art tech.

I know what you mean.  But im undecided on the photoshop theory.

There are clearly more than one photo going around, taken within milliseconds of each other.
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