HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

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Offline i_need YoU

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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 11:04:34 PM
that was not him during halloween it couldnt have been...i was thinking a worker because no one else could have masks on...and i know MJ wouldnt reveal his ID so universal studios would let him lol i can just see it... Michael:" Hey  can i please where this mask? You see, I hoaxed my death so I don't want anyone to know its me." Manager: " oh well fine by me, and i swear i won't tell press this awesome news for a big bundle of money!"  palease it couldnt have been MJ. unless the mask rule is untrue because that was the only thing that swayed my mind on that halloween video ;)
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 11:12:08 PM
all I am going to say is Cheryl Crow said that she had hoped he just staged a way out.  I admit, some things get silly here but behind every silly thing is a chance for us to make real connections.  One thing leads to another.   Take a break for a while...this will still be going on and on and on...just keep your heart open.
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Offline michangelo

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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 11:58:17 PM
Quote from: "Justlettingyouknow"
I hate to chime in because im really not even supposed to be posting here.. But let me say something

Michael's children havent even been photographed this holiday season..

We have a half barely there photo of the boys on december 16th getting a hair cut.

Paris has not been photographed since around December 6th and thats really the last time we saw all of them together..

Think about what you just said "A father can only go so long without his children".. Well we havent even really seen them, though no doubt of course a picture will pop up tomorrow, since they always seem to pop up when we mention not seeing them..

I hate to sound rude, but people thinking that Michael is going to make some EPIC come back only six months after it took him probably YEARS to put together is silly.


If your heart is telling you to move on and accept that he is gone, id suggest doing so for your own well being and peace of mind.. But just look at the big picture first :)

ok i'll shut up now!

Who are you to own this information? I see you're registered after my topic
... the dates you reported how they come?

And that means: (I hate to chime in because im really not even supposed to be posting here
 .. But let me say something )...???

We'd say you're a photographer? ... really interesting! We want more! :D

Secondly to all, I know Michael will not come back after 6 months,
but a small clue in this period would have been welcome .. even a blurry photo would make the case.
I know I'm selfish, I know ... but I appreciate your comments, Thank you to all of you.

L.O.V.E
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Offline foreverking

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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 12:14:07 AM
Have you ever thought that maybe his life and his kids lives were in danger so he had to separate himself from them for their own safety?  Maybe as a parent he made the ultimate sacrifice. Which would explain why he made a point to show his kids just a few weeks before he faked his death. Maybe someone threatened their lives and to protect them he had to be away from them for a while.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 12:15:24 AM
Quote from: "michangelo"
Quote from: "Justlettingyouknow"
I hate to chime in because im really not even supposed to be posting here.. But let me say something

Michael's children havent even been photographed this holiday season..

We have a half barely there photo of the boys on december 16th getting a hair cut.

Paris has not been photographed since around December 6th and thats really the last time we saw all of them together..

Think about what you just said "A father can only go so long without his children".. Well we havent even really seen them, though no doubt of course a picture will pop up tomorrow, since they always seem to pop up when we mention not seeing them..

I hate to sound rude, but people thinking that Michael is going to make some EPIC come back only six months after it took him probably YEARS to put together is silly.


If your heart is telling you to move on and accept that he is gone, id suggest doing so for your own well being and peace of mind.. But just look at the big picture first :)

ok i'll shut up now!

Who are you to own this information? I see you're registered after my topic
... the dates you reported how they come?

And that means: (I hate to chime in because im really not even supposed to be posting here
 .. But let me say something )...???

We'd say you're a photographer? ... really interesting! We want more! :D

Secondly to all, I know Michael will not come back after 6 months,
but a small clue in this period would have been welcome .. even a blurry photo would make the case.
I know I'm selfish, I know ... but I appreciate your comments, Thank you to all of you.



L.O.V.E


I just meant that i was banned so I shouldnt be posting. Im nobody special..

But honestly dont give up.. We've come to far :).. Please believe.. I can promise you that its worth it to at least belive and keep hope alive

But if its unhealthy and you cant function because of this.. let it go.. take a break for awhile and walk away.. Even if its for good

You are a father and you have your own life to live for yourself and your children.. Michael Jackson faking his death should NOT be your priority..

To the person who state they dont want to live in a world with MJ.. I strongly suggest that you seek some professional help and I mean that only in the kindest of ways.. That is NOT healthy..

This isnt about us..  People do things because they have to.. But you cant let it consume you like this.. Its selfish to Michael actually...

If its affecting you like this.. Leave it alone.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 12:19:19 AM
dang i was getting my hopes up thinking u were a photographer hehe so why did you get banned lol
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Offline michangelo

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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 12:26:42 AM
Quote from: "Justlettingyouknow"
If its affecting you like this.. Leave it alone.

Don't worry, I love Michael, but has not mad at that point.  :lol:

L.O.V.E
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 01:51:20 AM
How are you so sure he didn't meet his children? Even if paparazzi are everywhere, Michael knows them so well and he is able to diddle them . You are a father, too so you should understand what a father could do for his children. Of course it's your right to believe in a hoax or not, nobody will try to convince you of contrary, me less than anyone here, but i don't like when those who lost their belief try to convince the others. Keep your thoughts for yourself .
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:04:07 AM
you dont think it would look a little fishy i mean you have Liz and Michaels 2 children...and you see a skinny man walking around with them in a mask?...lol dont you think people would wonder who was with them??...
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:05:25 AM
To Michaelangelo, I have not even read the 2 pages of what others had to say yet, but I wanted to let you know that no matter what others say you feel what you feel in your heart and you are allowed that.

You sound like a lovely father and I can only say that your children are very lucky that you care for them so much. I do understand how you are feeling as it has been 6 mths of waiting, wishing and hoping for all of us. I also am feeling that it is time to let this all go and get on with things and if Mr Jackson appears sometime in the future great but if not I will honor his life by being a better parent and being kinder to my fellow man and doing what I can for the children in need in this horrible world we live in.

BON NUIT michaelangelo and kiss your children and enjoy thier lives now as they grow up very quickly

Au Revoir from Canada. ( we are a bilingual country but I do not want to embarrass myself with my bad french.)
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:12:34 AM
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but i don't like when those who lost their belief try to convince the others. Keep your thoughts for yourself .

Do not particularly think that, I'm not trying to convince anyone, I am looking for answers as you all!
To you I say you do not like what I feel and you do not want me sharing?
This is absurd, if what I say does not please you if it breaks your illusions this is not my fault
you has not read me!
I can not stop myself from saying what I feel, as everyone does here, then why not me?
The positive is not without negative, light without darkness is not of this world,
good without evil does not exist.
Keep my feelings for me? WHY? ;) With LOVE!

THANK'S  LovelyLurker merci et bonne nuit a toi aussi! 8-)
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:19:46 AM
Quote from: "michangelo"
Quote from: "tiida11"
but i don't like when those who lost their belief try to convince the others. Keep your thoughts for yourself .

Do not particularly think that, I'm not trying to convince anyone, I am looking for answers as you all!
To you I say you do not like what I feel and you do not want me sharing?
This is absurd, if what I say does not please you if it breaks your illusions this is not my fault
you has not read me!
I can not stop myself from saying what I feel, as everyone does here, then why not me?
The positive is not without negative, light without darkness is not of this world,
good without evil does not exist.
Keep my feelings for me? WHY? ;) With LOVE!

THANK'S  LovelyLurker merci et bonne nuit a toi aussi! 8-)

nicely said  :)  I have my off days and good days on all of this just depends on how well research has taken me...which these last few days has been blah blah becuz we are running outta clues and ppl are repeating clues already discussed...but i am in on it and i think ima stay here for awhile...but i dont mind you sharing your thoughts as well, everyone is entitles to the opinion  :)  Peace to you, share the love L.O.V.E.
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Offline LiteEyeZ22

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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:20:35 AM
I don't usually make post...only when necessary.....but I agree with I forgot who posted it but neway I agree to the fact that this is NOT the forum to post this topic in......there's a forum for those who believe he died....use it.....I'm not knocking any1s opinions b.c its a natural feeling but not every1 feel that way and I doubt Every1 want to read sumin like this post....hence y its a completly different forum for non believers.....if ur getting discouraged post in the death not in the section where EVERY believer comes....b.c its only going to cause heartaces yelling and worst divisions....like i said not knocking ur opinion or anything....just dnt feel its the right post for THIS forum about his death HOAX..........nd by the way just because you dnt c MJ and his kids walking dwn the nearest street. Doesn't mean he don't see them....its a hoax remember y wud he show up as himself???? And ur absolutely right.....i dnt think he can b away from his kids which is y I know he wudnt dare overdose on drugs and keep asking for more knowing what the outcome wud b! Makes me believe in the hoax even more!!!!
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Offline LovelyLurker

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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:25:24 AM
michaelangelo, I understood what you said I would like to answer in your native language, Je sius un parent et je comprend votre dilemme. Recherche votre coeur. Votre coeur vouloir donner vou le response.

I am sure that was very bad but I hope you get my meaning?
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:34:04 AM
oh Michaelangelo one more thing, C'est un beaucoup enfant ici, n'est pas fait beaucoup attention, You have said what you feel, bonne annee  :D
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 03:42:47 AM
I believe he is in contact with his kids :P
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 04:10:45 AM
IT AINT OVER TILL ITS OVER ......... Dont give up you have come this far Take time to breath if you have to,,,  There are times I believed he was dead too but I think about the messy trail left behind with questions marks ..The way the family acts..etc.... Its all been done on purpose for people like us to search for the TRUTH  
If he wanted the world to believe he was dead the trail would of been cleaner... we would have excepted it  and moved on 6 mths ago...

If he is in police protection maybe there are alot of things that are out of his control.

At the end of the day whether he is dead/murdered or alive we want the truth,  The fans want JUSTICE for Micheal..
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 04:16:52 AM
if your haveing doubt go read the thread  saying he wasnt listed...again!!!
 during the ball drop fro new years on CBS they mentioned the celebs that passed this year and guess what....NO MJ!!!! lol this is such good news. not in tmz rip list and not dead to cbs either hehehehehe.... its either good news he is alive or bad news if he is dead cuz that just means they are very rude lol but i sure he alive now. just no freggin way!!! MJ WE LOVE YOU MORE
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 05:17:05 AM
Quote from: "michangelo"
I know I'm selfish, I know ... but I appreciate your comments, Thank you to all of you.

Please don't call you selfish... you are not,believe me! You just need closure and it's understandable. I had my ups and downs too, like everyone else I think... I kept wondering "what if?",but we've found so many things so far that I believe 99%in it now .
I don't get people who bash the ones who are saying they don't believe anymore...We are all different, we react all differently. That's why  I disagree with Truthbetold when he/she said your comment was disrespectful. The fact that you don't believe in the hoax anymore doesn't mean you're not a true fan. There are people who has never believed in the hoax, and these people may have followed Michael's carreer since the beginning and admire him. There are some who still are crying and thinking about Michael everyday. They are fans. I'm sorry but his/her post was the one that was disrespectufl...there's no need to be rude  :?

Anyway, michangelo, I'm sad to see that you're leaving :( but I respect your choice. I wish you a happy new year with your little family! :)
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: "O-drey-O"
Quote from: "michangelo"
I know I'm selfish, I know ... but I appreciate your comments, Thank you to all of you.

Please don't call you selfish... you are not,believe me! You just need closure and it's understandable. I had my ups and downs too, like everyone else I think... I kept wondering "what if?",but we've found so many things so far that I believe 99%in it now .
I don't get people who bash the ones who are saying they don't believe anymore...We are all different, we react all differently. That's why  I disagree with Truthbetold when he/she said your comment was disrespectful. The fact that you don't believe in the hoax anymore doesn't mean you're not a true fan. There are people who has never believed in the hoax, and these people may have followed Michael's carreer since the beginning and admire him. There are some who still are crying and thinking about Michael everyday. They are fans. I'm sorry but his/her post was the one that was disrespectufl...there's no need to be rude  :?

Anyway, michangelo, I'm sad to see that you're leaving :( but I respect your choice. I wish you a happy new year with your little family! :)

Merci O-drey-O,  ;)

OK, I'll put a text in French, and since I am not perfectly bilingual I ask someone to translate and not with GOOGLE ... thank you!

Écouter, je connais toute l'histoire je la suis depuis le début,
mais ce que je n'aime pas si il est vivant c'est que c'est arrangé avec les autorités
et cela impliquerais beaucoup trop de gens.
Alors comment garder le silence si longtemps?
Cela n'a pas de sens a mes yeux,ou bien ce sont tous des artistes payés par
Michael Jackson et son entourage (Kenney Ortega,Sony entre autres).
J'y ai cru très fort pendant un temps,mais plus j'analyse la situation
plus le temps passe plus je constate que c'est presque impossible.
Si je me trompe,le gourvenement va passer pour bouffon et c'est là que ça
deviens très dangereux pour Michael,
ils n'apprécieront pas de s'être fais piéger ainsi!
Vaudrait mieux pour lui d'être ailleurs si il est vivant
si c'est lui qui a monté le coup,
mais je doute fort que les autorités locales est embarqués la dedans.
alors comment cela peut-il s'avérer vrai?

PEACE AND LOVE...We all seek the truth!
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 05:51:09 PM
Quote from: "michangelo"
Quote from: "TruthBeTold"
To be honest, i find your post quite disrespectful, and clearly show you are not a true Michael Jackson fan, because if you were, you would know of the disguises he can pull off, he is probably with his children now, and even so, you have seen technology these days? easy to access via skype and webcam, so dont come on here with crap like that, go and post it in the section for those who think he may be dead because thats what that section is for. im disgusted. You don't know Michael, because if you did you would understand how highly intelligent he is , and how intelligent his children are. phhttt

I listen to Michael Jackson from the album OFF THE WALL, I love him like a brother!
Who are you to judge my heart?
I have all his albums, while the 12 inches he did, my only regret is not being a native English speaker to understand everything he wrote. (I'm french).
People like you who judge does not even deserve one attention.
To be a true fan must believe in 100 years?
No, I think it's you that lacks love to write about me and that's disrespectful! :?


Hey Michangelo,it all started with OFF THE WALL for me too,we must be around the same age I guess ;) I bought the 45 rpm single ...boy,this makes me feel old :shock:  :lol:  :lol:

And Michangelo,I hope you will reconsider leaving here 'cause I appreciate your posts,it's always a pleasure...so please follow your heart and stay with us ;)

Et moi aussi,parfoisil m'arrive de croire qu'il peut être vraiment décédé mais même dans cette éventualité le mystère plane...je serais triste de te voir partir sans savoir le dénouement de cette aventure rocambolesque...Bonne année à toi et tes proches...L.O.V.E
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 05:59:41 PM
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Well I threw in the towel, I no longer believe.
My head told me that he died even though my heart said no.
Let me explain why]

Most of us can understand your personal conclusions.  Please do check in from time to time so you will be abreast of the "REVEAL",  :D  :D  :D

Love to you and your family...
Kathi
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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 02, 2010, 06:01:39 PM
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Did you ever think that maybe Michael is meeting his kids without the paparazzi's? How do you know he isnt seeing kids just because you dont have evidence of it? There's a big possibility the kids have travelled to the house he is staying at (perhaps even the Encino family house) and that they see him on a regular basis. Just because you dont see Michael Jackson + three children together walking on the streets of LA with paparazzis surrounding them it dosnt mean they dont have any contact with each other. There's a thing called privacy and thats what they are doing, they are meeting up in privacy.

Yep, we see what he wants us to see, when he wants us to see it, and how he wants us to see it.

 :D  :D  :D
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 08:09:09 PM
I respect the OP's feelings and opinions. I have my own doubts from time to time, but I'm on a quest for the truth and don't plan to give up any time soon. If I ever do, I don't plan to make any posts about it, I'll just leave...but that's just me.

All I want to say here is that feelings are NOT wrong. You can't blame someone for their feelings, anymore than they can blame you for yours. And if you start reading a thread that really bothers you, then hey, stop reading and use the Back arrow on your browser and get out of it. Why put yourself through any sort of torture or frustration when you have the means to escape it? You can't change someone else's feelings. Just let them be. Whatever is the right path for them is their choice alone.

I'm not one to make resolutions, but I did make one this year: that I will leave threads that bother me to any great extent. In my case, these are threads that generally have to do with Karen Faye, Dave Dave, the Illuminati, LMP, and the people who are having a change of heart and/or leaving the community. Most of these threads end up frustrating me beyond belief. There are exceptions, of course. But if I start reading any thread that irritates me, I am just leaving it! It doesn't serve any purpose to argue, just for the sake of arguing. And that's really all it turns out to be in most cases, because it becomes a war of wills between a poster and myself--and that is simply a war that can't be won.

So I'm endeavoring to rise above it, stay focused on the goal (the TRUTH), and avoid any threads that provoke excessive negativity in me and a need to argue about someone's feelings. I'm all for healthy debate of a theory or evidence or clues--that's how we get to truth. But feelings are just something else all together. So I personally am trying not to do that. To the OP, I wish you all the best. You love MJ, and so do I. We're just on different paths. And that's OK. Take care.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 11:12:07 PM
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I respect the OP's feelings and opinions. I have my own doubts from time to time, but I'm on a quest for the truth and don't plan to give up any time soon. If I ever do, I don't plan to make any posts about it, I'll just leave...but that's just me.

All I want to say here is that feelings are NOT wrong. You can't blame someone for their feelings, anymore than they can blame you for yours. And if you start reading a thread that really bothers you, then hey, stop reading and use the Back arrow on your browser and get out of it. Why put yourself through any sort of torture or frustration when you have the means to escape it? You can't change someone else's feelings. Just let them be. Whatever is the right path for them is their choice alone.

I'm not one to make resolutions, but I did make one this year: that I will leave threads that bother me to any great extent. In my case, these are threads that generally have to do with Karen Faye, Dave Dave, the Illuminati, LMP, and the people who are having a change of heart and/or leaving the community. Most of these threads end up frustrating me beyond belief. There are exceptions, of course. But if I start reading any thread that irritates me, I am just leaving it! It doesn't serve any purpose to argue, just for the sake of arguing. And that's really all it turns out to be in most cases, because it becomes a war of wills between a poster and myself--and that is simply a war that can't be won.

So I'm endeavoring to rise above it, stay focused on the goal (the TRUTH), and avoid any threads that provoke excessive negativity in me and a need to argue about someone's feelings. I'm all for healthy debate of a theory or evidence or clues--that's how we get to truth. But feelings are just something else all together. So I personally am trying not to do that. To the OP, I wish you all the best. You love MJ, and so do I. We're just on different paths. And that's OK. Take care.

I agree. I do the same thing.

I had already made up my mind long ago not to give up a long time ago. I guess I already had it in mind he wouldn't be back for a while. But I still have to go day by day. Doubt always comes and I have to do battle with it everyday. Some of them are tougher than others.

Keep the Faith!
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