HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

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Offline michangelo

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HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 04:34:49 PM
Well I threw in the towel, I no longer believe.
My head told me that he died even though my heart said no.
Let me explain why:
I think he is dead, a father can not do without her children for so long,
and no paparazi has photos of his children with him.
It's too long, I am a father myself and just get away a week of my family driving me mad.
I thought we would hear him talk about Christmas or New Year's Day,
he would come out of anonymity because of the love for his children, but this is not the case,
I sincerely hope even lost with all that we could say here!
I closed the book, I can only hope is to hear his last album even incomplete
and hear 100 new songs that he have written.

I will continue to follow the topics here intelligent and reasonable,
but I think even more with Dave Dave or blonde ... enough is enough!

Peace and love you all .. I'm really sad to start the year this way but for me it's obvious ...
MJ is gone and it shines in the sky like a star...and his message of love will stay alive has ever.

Goodbye Michael, and all of you who still believe, pay attention to the lies of internet and media ...
that can be manipulated and you believe things!

PS: If ever I am wrong I would have a big doubt about the love of a father to his children.
Please do not judge me, I hoped his return but my logic say no it's over ... R.I.P M.J i love you!
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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 04:37:11 PM
My head told me that he died even though my heart said no.

Have you ever read "Dancing the Dream" by Michael Jackson???

If you have, you will know why these words you wrote jumped out at me.

Michael said those exact words.  Read the book.
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Offline DontBelieveTheHype

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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 04:40:25 PM
Did you ever think that maybe Michael is meeting his kids without the paparazzi's? How do you know he isnt seeing kids just because you dont have evidence of it? There's a big possibility the kids have travelled to the house he is staying at (perhaps even the Encino family house) and that they see him on a regular basis. Just because you dont see Michael Jackson + three children together walking on the streets of LA with paparazzis surrounding them it dosnt mean they dont have any contact with each other. There's a thing called privacy and thats what they are doing, they are meeting up in privacy.
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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 04:41:33 PM
ooh.. That is not cool.. :(
But you know, maybe Michael is with his kids. But we can't see it, because he is in disguise or just nobody CAN see him. I think he was with his kids with Christmas. And Yeah I think he is not always with them right now, But I am sure he thought very good about this and maybe he does this even for his children. Who knows.
But if you think he is really dead, then OK.. :(
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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 04:44:59 PM
@michangelo..

Well have a save retirement.. I'm glad you are still here looking around... Close your computer for awhile and have some fun with our kids... No disrespect of your opinion at all.... Take care of yourself and remember to look around in here once awhile..

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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 04:45:19 PM
Ich dachte, eine Menge wegeI thought a lot because of the children....
Still a lot speaks against death MJs ...... I still believe he lives.
First I might against proof!

Everything good for you and your family (I understand you) all the best to you :!:
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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 04:47:30 PM
I actually don't think he's away from his children!
Were his children supposed to be in London with him for all 50 shows? I don't know about that.

All the best for you! Good, if it's easier for you that way and I'm sure, you'll realize, if he comes back ;-)
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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 04:48:14 PM
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
Did you ever think that maybe Michael is meeting his kids without the paparazzi's? How do you know he isnt seeing kids just because you dont have evidence of it? There's a big possibility the kids have travelled to the house he is staying at (perhaps even the Encino family house) and that they see him on a regular basis. Just because you dont see Michael Jackson + three children together walking on the streets of LA with paparazzis surrounding them it dosnt mean they dont have any contact with each other. There's a thing called privacy and thats what they are doing, they are meeting up in privacy.

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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:00:19 PM
I understand your reaction but who told you that he is not seeing them from time to time ?  Michael has been able to fool the world (except we the believers) he can now play with the paparazzi like they used to play with him. Things have been reversed now.
Even, we must take into account the fact that if he did fake his death it's for a very important reason maybe including the safety of his children, he then had to make this sacrifice (if he finally cannot see his children). Sometimes in life you are confronted to extreme situations, you have no choice than take the right decision. I think that Michael had to do it. I think we should not give up so quick, Michael deserves that we look for the truth and we have now many evidences. I will personnally never give up and will always keep a place for him in my heart til I die.
Maybe you will change your mind, your deep inside is telling you he's still alive, listen to your heart.

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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:07:27 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
My head told me that he died even though my heart said no.

Have you ever read "Dancing the Dream" by Michael Jackson???

If you have, you will know why these words you wrote jumped out at me.

Michael said those exact words.  Read the book.

WOW! Honestly I never heard him write a poem that I am really disturbed I confess,
 I wrote the same thing without knowing I swear on my son's head! :shock:
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:24:05 PM
We didn't know you just had been gone from your family.. So doesn't the media either. Michael would live as a normal person, without attracting any attention.

Ofcourse would Michael never meet his children surrounded with paparazzies, or seen in the street.

If Michael fake his death, he have it all planned. How to meet children, how to get food, meet family.. Give clues to believers ^^

I'm sure Michael is staying at one of his family members house, with the children.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:32:13 PM
with all the clues that we have uncovered..the one thing that stands out,,that really convinced me that michael is alive is one very simple thing.  Remember in the very beginning when Michael first "died".  I forget if it was Joe Jackson or Katherine, but one of them said that the kids would go to regular school like regular kids.  I remember thinking..no freaking way in hell would Michael ever allow the kids to go to school..and guess what???all of a sudden Katherine changed her mind and they continued home schooling.  That is the single piece of evidence that convinced me that Michael is alive.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:33:41 PM
I believe that Michael's children are with him no matter what, I know he's alive I know and feel it in my bones and no way he can do without his children so his children are with him. But please don't throw in the towel because you had some great posts about the Illuminati theory, keep the faith!
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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:41:35 PM
Quote from: "michangelo"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
My head told me that he died even though my heart said no.

Have you ever read "Dancing the Dream" by Michael Jackson???

If you have, you will know why these words you wrote jumped out at me.

Michael said those exact words.  Read the book.

WOW! Honestly I never heard him write a poem that I am really disturbed I confess,
 I wrote the same thing without knowing I swear on my son's head! :shock:

Michael is hanting you LOL... He is in your head you should rethink you thoughts LMAO.. :lol:
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:48:09 PM
This whole thing is not clear at all, nobody can be 100% sure he is alive :(
Nobody of us knows it exactly.

Faked death, you think when MJ said at the O2 "See you in July", he already planned his own death? But this is just an example, there is more thing like that.

So i am 50%/50% with the hoax...
it is so hard after these months, this is too much, i really hope the truth will prevail very soon...

And i agree with michangelo.

But i still believe.
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Offline michangelo

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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:48:54 PM
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To be honest, i find your post quite disrespectful, and clearly show you are not a true Michael Jackson fan, because if you were, you would know of the disguises he can pull off, he is probably with his children now, and even so, you have seen technology these days? easy to access via skype and webcam, so dont come on here with crap like that, go and post it in the section for those who think he may be dead because thats what that section is for. im disgusted. You don't know Michael, because if you did you would understand how highly intelligent he is , and how intelligent his children are. phhttt

I listen to Michael Jackson from the album OFF THE WALL, I love him like a brother!
Who are you to judge my heart?
I have all his albums, while the 12 inches he did, my only regret is not being a native English speaker to understand everything he wrote. (I'm french).
People like you who judge does not even deserve one attention.
To be a true fan must believe in 100 years?
No, I think it's you that lacks love to write about me and that's disrespectful! :?
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:51:09 PM
Please.. dudes.. you are depressing me.

I love Michael. I dont want to be on this Earth if he is not.

Ive just spent the last 48 hours in bed.  I didnt eat and i didnt go out.

I am depressed over all of this.  I just want closure.

I wish to know what has happened to Michael.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:59:23 PM
Quote from: "TruthBeTold"
To be honest, i find your post quite disrespectful, and clearly show you are not a true Michael Jackson fan, because if you were, you would know of the disguises he can pull off, he is probably with his children now, and even so, you have seen technology these days? easy to access via skype and webcam, so dont come on here with crap like that, go and post it in the section for those who think he may be dead because thats what that section is for. im disgusted. You don't know Michael, because if you did you would understand how highly intelligent he is , and how intelligent his children are. phhttt

to be honest?? If someone here has a change of heart that is their full right.To then call them "not a true fan" is more disrespectful than the original poster's post.To then say you're disgusted and that the OP is coming on here with "crap" is more disgusting then what the OP is saying. To then say"you don't know Michael because then you would understand how highly intelligent he is" shows that you lack some yourself imo
Don't get all fired up when someone says goodbye for the reasons they believe or no longer believe ...surely MJ himself advocated that all are entitled to their own opinions...
Peace
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 06:07:11 PM
Hello Michangelo,
Firstly happy 2010 to you and your family.
I would like to tell you how much I understand your reaction is natural.
But think of it this way:
Who set out to do what Michael did, to form their "death", knowing that he would have a much more restrained than it had before.
He knew that would be trapping for the world.
Do you really believe that Michael is meeting with the children may appear out of nowhere for the paparazzi?
The life Michael ran it, and it would be easier now that he.
If he has a plan a proposal, it will follow her to the end!
Now more than ever he will have to be very touching, until the right moment.
As it was a shock to the world this "death" sudden, his reappearance is further improved.
Will trigger all kinds of feelings of anger, frustration, excitement, questions, etc. ...
Now Michael Jackson is leaving clues, those fans really have discovered, and those who are skeptical, which are equal to these are Thomas think he is among us, it was in fact, they will be shocked, and these are Michangelo that will charge you, offend you, and why not say crucify him?
What we have to do is take our day to day, living our lives, we just know he is alive, it is because we read, we investigate are always looking for new things.
We know our bikes to the family practice and talk, we know that serious people in your life as if Diana Ross was present either at the moment, it certainly does not agree with what is being done, we know that nothing happened to the doctor, including this practice again!
Michael would not harm someone's life this way, leading to prison, that's enough what are making people suffer.
Could it be that Michael does not return, and it can even happen, I do not doubt anything.
Now my friend, until I prove to contráio dead he is not the same!

Sincerely! ;)
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 06:14:17 PM
Please........
   
I think it's not good when we dig up here ......
Each of us suffers, and it had been heavy 6 months and we have sweated blood, so to speak

I know it is hard and often do not know quite what to do, I also want only one thing to learn the truth one way or another!
We know we deserve what really happened is to be with MJ, we have not lied to us deserves that people think we are stupid.

I also have family and I neglect things if I spend hours every evening. (I have a husband and a daughter)

I know it's hard but I want to know what really happened!

MJ I can not simply be regarded as dead and over! If MJ is dead I want to know why damn it!
I want justice MJ has earned it, all those lies / Widersprüche.....ich can not tolerate it!

I fight my way through since June / July and I'm often very tired, but what do I do ... I'm glad to have you, yes, we have and we are a team right? One way or family? Please, no one is alone with these feelings!

I love you .... I do not know what else I can say
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 07:08:47 PM
I am a very true real fan of MJ since he and me were childs, and I have to say that I share the feeling of Michelangelo, I begin the year with my head cooler and my heart hurting but I have to accept the fact of not seeing him any more, my logic, my common sense tells me it is impossible he is alive  :cry:

I read with really incredulity and indignation some comments I see on internet about this, I find it very cruel to play with the feelings of thousands of fans that are looking for information about a possible hoax, sometimes I feel that some people enjoy hurting us inventing false clues, photoshoping pictures to make us believe....so sad.

I will not give up looking for logic and intelligent comments about the possible hoax, I enjoy doing it because my heart sings when it happens, but I wish I will not read again silly clues and proofs of nothing, they have made me loose my hopes and it hurts.

Be carefull and dont trust in everybody, let your head talk to you, not only your heart. We all want he is alive but think what will happen into 6 months if he doesnt appear, will you be here discussing about Dave Dave and the ambulance picture?

I need my life back, I lose it on 25th june but now I am ready to enjoy him, we have sooo many videos, songs, interviews, pictures......he always will be alive, very alive into each of us.

And if one day he appears OHHHHHHHHHH my God, I will be soo happy. Meanwhile, if he decided to dissapear it is not a child game, so I feel I must respect him and maybe if we find a real clue, it is not good for him, I dont know.

Sorry for my bad english and for my opinion.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 07:13:50 PM
I hate to chime in because im really not even supposed to be posting here.. But let me say something

Michael's children havent even been photographed this holiday season..

We have a half barely there photo of the boys on december 16th getting a hair cut.

Paris has not been photographed since around December 6th and thats really the last time we saw all of them together..

Think about what you just said "A father can only go so long without his children".. Well we havent even really seen them, though no doubt of course a picture will pop up tomorrow, since they always seem to pop up when we mention not seeing them..

I hate to sound rude, but people thinking that Michael is going to make some EPIC come back only six months after it took him probably YEARS to put together is silly.


If your heart is telling you to move on and accept that he is gone, id suggest doing so for your own well being and peace of mind.. But just look at the big picture first :)

ok i'll shut up now!
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 07:18:06 PM
We all die.. It's a very natural part of life and nobody is exempt from it..

But when we die, it makes sense.. Even if we are murdered, things add up..

Think about it.. Really.. Forget all of what the "hoax" has taught you and go back to June 25th 2009 and fast forward to today... THINK about it.. Michael is dead?
Come on.. Use all of that knowledge and common sense.. That should really give you the most logical answer :)
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 09:15:37 PM
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Please.. dudes.. you are depressing me.

I love Michael. I dont want to be on this Earth if he is not.

Ive just spent the last 48 hours in bed.  I didnt eat and i didnt go out.

I am depressed over all of this.  I just want closure.

I wish to know what has happened to Michael.
IF YOU HAVE BEEN PERFOMING FOR OVER FORTY YEARS 6 MONTHS IS NOT LONG TO REST DONT LOSE FAITH MJ IS WATCHING ;) HI MJ
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 10:50:50 PM
gosh i am feeling so bad right now :( ....u guyz if he wants to dissappear forever then why are we trying to figure him out? if we figure him out then people can get to him and hurt him all over again...i keep thinking we are being selfish by wanting him inthe public eye just for our satisfaction, if its not what he wants anymore then why are we trying to do this?

now what if he is really dead? are we being disrespectful on his death, to his family, children, and other fans? do we really need to just let go and just stop trying to figure it all out and just enjoy the memories he has given us through his music and interviews? I feel like...he isn't going to come back. i miss him too much to keep feeding my mind saying he is alive...and then what spring comes and he doesn't show? then we going to say well next season he will? its just going to be a forever thing... i very stressful.

I am still going to get on here everyday and search but I have this strange feeling that he may never show again because he dead/hiding forever. but i will still get on here because i want this so badly to be true...that he is still alive... but i feel i am not being very respectful and letting him RIP if he really is resting  :cry:  Michael I Love you, I really do, I'm afraid i will never let this go...its a life changing thing for me...Thank you for everything you have done...You taught me so much. Now i am spreading the love L.O.V.E....Peace
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 11:04:34 PM
that was not him during halloween it couldnt have been...i was thinking a worker because no one else could have masks on...and i know MJ wouldnt reveal his ID so universal studios would let him lol i can just see it... Michael:" Hey  can i please where this mask? You see, I hoaxed my death so I don't want anyone to know its me." Manager: " oh well fine by me, and i swear i won't tell press this awesome news for a big bundle of money!"  palease it couldnt have been MJ. unless the mask rule is untrue because that was the only thing that swayed my mind on that halloween video ;)
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 11:12:08 PM
all I am going to say is Cheryl Crow said that she had hoped he just staged a way out.  I admit, some things get silly here but behind every silly thing is a chance for us to make real connections.  One thing leads to another.   Take a break for a while...this will still be going on and on and on...just keep your heart open.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 11:58:17 PM
Quote from: "Justlettingyouknow"
I hate to chime in because im really not even supposed to be posting here.. But let me say something

Michael's children havent even been photographed this holiday season..

We have a half barely there photo of the boys on december 16th getting a hair cut.

Paris has not been photographed since around December 6th and thats really the last time we saw all of them together..

Think about what you just said "A father can only go so long without his children".. Well we havent even really seen them, though no doubt of course a picture will pop up tomorrow, since they always seem to pop up when we mention not seeing them..

I hate to sound rude, but people thinking that Michael is going to make some EPIC come back only six months after it took him probably YEARS to put together is silly.


If your heart is telling you to move on and accept that he is gone, id suggest doing so for your own well being and peace of mind.. But just look at the big picture first :)

ok i'll shut up now!

Who are you to own this information? I see you're registered after my topic
... the dates you reported how they come?

And that means: (I hate to chime in because im really not even supposed to be posting here
 .. But let me say something )...???

We'd say you're a photographer? ... really interesting! We want more! :D

Secondly to all, I know Michael will not come back after 6 months,
but a small clue in this period would have been welcome .. even a blurry photo would make the case.
I know I'm selfish, I know ... but I appreciate your comments, Thank you to all of you.

L.O.V.E
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 12:14:07 AM
Have you ever thought that maybe his life and his kids lives were in danger so he had to separate himself from them for their own safety?  Maybe as a parent he made the ultimate sacrifice. Which would explain why he made a point to show his kids just a few weeks before he faked his death. Maybe someone threatened their lives and to protect them he had to be away from them for a while.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 12:15:24 AM
Quote from: "michangelo"
Quote from: "Justlettingyouknow"
I hate to chime in because im really not even supposed to be posting here.. But let me say something

Michael's children havent even been photographed this holiday season..

We have a half barely there photo of the boys on december 16th getting a hair cut.

Paris has not been photographed since around December 6th and thats really the last time we saw all of them together..

Think about what you just said "A father can only go so long without his children".. Well we havent even really seen them, though no doubt of course a picture will pop up tomorrow, since they always seem to pop up when we mention not seeing them..

I hate to sound rude, but people thinking that Michael is going to make some EPIC come back only six months after it took him probably YEARS to put together is silly.


If your heart is telling you to move on and accept that he is gone, id suggest doing so for your own well being and peace of mind.. But just look at the big picture first :)

ok i'll shut up now!

Who are you to own this information? I see you're registered after my topic
... the dates you reported how they come?

And that means: (I hate to chime in because im really not even supposed to be posting here
 .. But let me say something )...???

We'd say you're a photographer? ... really interesting! We want more! :D

Secondly to all, I know Michael will not come back after 6 months,
but a small clue in this period would have been welcome .. even a blurry photo would make the case.
I know I'm selfish, I know ... but I appreciate your comments, Thank you to all of you.



L.O.V.E


I just meant that i was banned so I shouldnt be posting. Im nobody special..

But honestly dont give up.. We've come to far :).. Please believe.. I can promise you that its worth it to at least belive and keep hope alive

But if its unhealthy and you cant function because of this.. let it go.. take a break for awhile and walk away.. Even if its for good

You are a father and you have your own life to live for yourself and your children.. Michael Jackson faking his death should NOT be your priority..

To the person who state they dont want to live in a world with MJ.. I strongly suggest that you seek some professional help and I mean that only in the kindest of ways.. That is NOT healthy..

This isnt about us..  People do things because they have to.. But you cant let it consume you like this.. Its selfish to Michael actually...

If its affecting you like this.. Leave it alone.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 12:19:19 AM
dang i was getting my hopes up thinking u were a photographer hehe so why did you get banned lol
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 12:26:42 AM
Quote from: "Justlettingyouknow"
If its affecting you like this.. Leave it alone.

Don't worry, I love Michael, but has not mad at that point.  :lol:

L.O.V.E
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 01:51:20 AM
How are you so sure he didn't meet his children? Even if paparazzi are everywhere, Michael knows them so well and he is able to diddle them . You are a father, too so you should understand what a father could do for his children. Of course it's your right to believe in a hoax or not, nobody will try to convince you of contrary, me less than anyone here, but i don't like when those who lost their belief try to convince the others. Keep your thoughts for yourself .
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:04:07 AM
you dont think it would look a little fishy i mean you have Liz and Michaels 2 children...and you see a skinny man walking around with them in a mask?...lol dont you think people would wonder who was with them??...
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:05:25 AM
To Michaelangelo, I have not even read the 2 pages of what others had to say yet, but I wanted to let you know that no matter what others say you feel what you feel in your heart and you are allowed that.

You sound like a lovely father and I can only say that your children are very lucky that you care for them so much. I do understand how you are feeling as it has been 6 mths of waiting, wishing and hoping for all of us. I also am feeling that it is time to let this all go and get on with things and if Mr Jackson appears sometime in the future great but if not I will honor his life by being a better parent and being kinder to my fellow man and doing what I can for the children in need in this horrible world we live in.

BON NUIT michaelangelo and kiss your children and enjoy thier lives now as they grow up very quickly

Au Revoir from Canada. ( we are a bilingual country but I do not want to embarrass myself with my bad french.)
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:12:34 AM
Quote from: "tiida11"
but i don't like when those who lost their belief try to convince the others. Keep your thoughts for yourself .

Do not particularly think that, I'm not trying to convince anyone, I am looking for answers as you all!
To you I say you do not like what I feel and you do not want me sharing?
This is absurd, if what I say does not please you if it breaks your illusions this is not my fault
you has not read me!
I can not stop myself from saying what I feel, as everyone does here, then why not me?
The positive is not without negative, light without darkness is not of this world,
good without evil does not exist.
Keep my feelings for me? WHY? ;) With LOVE!

THANK'S  LovelyLurker merci et bonne nuit a toi aussi! 8-)
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:19:46 AM
Quote from: "michangelo"
Quote from: "tiida11"
but i don't like when those who lost their belief try to convince the others. Keep your thoughts for yourself .

Do not particularly think that, I'm not trying to convince anyone, I am looking for answers as you all!
To you I say you do not like what I feel and you do not want me sharing?
This is absurd, if what I say does not please you if it breaks your illusions this is not my fault
you has not read me!
I can not stop myself from saying what I feel, as everyone does here, then why not me?
The positive is not without negative, light without darkness is not of this world,
good without evil does not exist.
Keep my feelings for me? WHY? ;) With LOVE!

THANK'S  LovelyLurker merci et bonne nuit a toi aussi! 8-)

nicely said  :)  I have my off days and good days on all of this just depends on how well research has taken me...which these last few days has been blah blah becuz we are running outta clues and ppl are repeating clues already discussed...but i am in on it and i think ima stay here for awhile...but i dont mind you sharing your thoughts as well, everyone is entitles to the opinion  :)  Peace to you, share the love L.O.V.E.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:20:35 AM
I don't usually make post...only when necessary.....but I agree with I forgot who posted it but neway I agree to the fact that this is NOT the forum to post this topic in......there's a forum for those who believe he died....use it.....I'm not knocking any1s opinions b.c its a natural feeling but not every1 feel that way and I doubt Every1 want to read sumin like this post....hence y its a completly different forum for non believers.....if ur getting discouraged post in the death not in the section where EVERY believer comes....b.c its only going to cause heartaces yelling and worst divisions....like i said not knocking ur opinion or anything....just dnt feel its the right post for THIS forum about his death HOAX..........nd by the way just because you dnt c MJ and his kids walking dwn the nearest street. Doesn't mean he don't see them....its a hoax remember y wud he show up as himself???? And ur absolutely right.....i dnt think he can b away from his kids which is y I know he wudnt dare overdose on drugs and keep asking for more knowing what the outcome wud b! Makes me believe in the hoax even more!!!!
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:25:24 AM
michaelangelo, I understood what you said I would like to answer in your native language, Je sius un parent et je comprend votre dilemme. Recherche votre coeur. Votre coeur vouloir donner vou le response.

I am sure that was very bad but I hope you get my meaning?
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:34:04 AM
oh Michaelangelo one more thing, C'est un beaucoup enfant ici, n'est pas fait beaucoup attention, You have said what you feel, bonne annee  :D
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Offline Game Player

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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 03:42:47 AM
I believe he is in contact with his kids :P
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 04:10:45 AM
IT AINT OVER TILL ITS OVER ......... Dont give up you have come this far Take time to breath if you have to,,,  There are times I believed he was dead too but I think about the messy trail left behind with questions marks ..The way the family acts..etc.... Its all been done on purpose for people like us to search for the TRUTH  
If he wanted the world to believe he was dead the trail would of been cleaner... we would have excepted it  and moved on 6 mths ago...

If he is in police protection maybe there are alot of things that are out of his control.

At the end of the day whether he is dead/murdered or alive we want the truth,  The fans want JUSTICE for Micheal..
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 04:16:52 AM
if your haveing doubt go read the thread  saying he wasnt listed...again!!!
 during the ball drop fro new years on CBS they mentioned the celebs that passed this year and guess what....NO MJ!!!! lol this is such good news. not in tmz rip list and not dead to cbs either hehehehehe.... its either good news he is alive or bad news if he is dead cuz that just means they are very rude lol but i sure he alive now. just no freggin way!!! MJ WE LOVE YOU MORE
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 05:17:05 AM
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I know I'm selfish, I know ... but I appreciate your comments, Thank you to all of you.

Please don't call you selfish... you are not,believe me! You just need closure and it's understandable. I had my ups and downs too, like everyone else I think... I kept wondering "what if?",but we've found so many things so far that I believe 99%in it now .
I don't get people who bash the ones who are saying they don't believe anymore...We are all different, we react all differently. That's why  I disagree with Truthbetold when he/she said your comment was disrespectful. The fact that you don't believe in the hoax anymore doesn't mean you're not a true fan. There are people who has never believed in the hoax, and these people may have followed Michael's carreer since the beginning and admire him. There are some who still are crying and thinking about Michael everyday. They are fans. I'm sorry but his/her post was the one that was disrespectufl...there's no need to be rude  :?

Anyway, michangelo, I'm sad to see that you're leaving :( but I respect your choice. I wish you a happy new year with your little family! :)
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: "O-drey-O"
Quote from: "michangelo"
I know I'm selfish, I know ... but I appreciate your comments, Thank you to all of you.

Please don't call you selfish... you are not,believe me! You just need closure and it's understandable. I had my ups and downs too, like everyone else I think... I kept wondering "what if?",but we've found so many things so far that I believe 99%in it now .
I don't get people who bash the ones who are saying they don't believe anymore...We are all different, we react all differently. That's why  I disagree with Truthbetold when he/she said your comment was disrespectful. The fact that you don't believe in the hoax anymore doesn't mean you're not a true fan. There are people who has never believed in the hoax, and these people may have followed Michael's carreer since the beginning and admire him. There are some who still are crying and thinking about Michael everyday. They are fans. I'm sorry but his/her post was the one that was disrespectufl...there's no need to be rude  :?

Anyway, michangelo, I'm sad to see that you're leaving :( but I respect your choice. I wish you a happy new year with your little family! :)

Merci O-drey-O,  ;)

OK, I'll put a text in French, and since I am not perfectly bilingual I ask someone to translate and not with GOOGLE ... thank you!

Écouter, je connais toute l'histoire je la suis depuis le début,
mais ce que je n'aime pas si il est vivant c'est que c'est arrangé avec les autorités
et cela impliquerais beaucoup trop de gens.
Alors comment garder le silence si longtemps?
Cela n'a pas de sens a mes yeux,ou bien ce sont tous des artistes payés par
Michael Jackson et son entourage (Kenney Ortega,Sony entre autres).
J'y ai cru très fort pendant un temps,mais plus j'analyse la situation
plus le temps passe plus je constate que c'est presque impossible.
Si je me trompe,le gourvenement va passer pour bouffon et c'est là que ça
deviens très dangereux pour Michael,
ils n'apprécieront pas de s'être fais piéger ainsi!
Vaudrait mieux pour lui d'être ailleurs si il est vivant
si c'est lui qui a monté le coup,
mais je doute fort que les autorités locales est embarqués la dedans.
alors comment cela peut-il s'avérer vrai?

PEACE AND LOVE...We all seek the truth!
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 05:51:09 PM
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Quote from: "TruthBeTold"
To be honest, i find your post quite disrespectful, and clearly show you are not a true Michael Jackson fan, because if you were, you would know of the disguises he can pull off, he is probably with his children now, and even so, you have seen technology these days? easy to access via skype and webcam, so dont come on here with crap like that, go and post it in the section for those who think he may be dead because thats what that section is for. im disgusted. You don't know Michael, because if you did you would understand how highly intelligent he is , and how intelligent his children are. phhttt

I listen to Michael Jackson from the album OFF THE WALL, I love him like a brother!
Who are you to judge my heart?
I have all his albums, while the 12 inches he did, my only regret is not being a native English speaker to understand everything he wrote. (I'm french).
People like you who judge does not even deserve one attention.
To be a true fan must believe in 100 years?
No, I think it's you that lacks love to write about me and that's disrespectful! :?


Hey Michangelo,it all started with OFF THE WALL for me too,we must be around the same age I guess ;) I bought the 45 rpm single ...boy,this makes me feel old :shock:  :lol:  :lol:

And Michangelo,I hope you will reconsider leaving here 'cause I appreciate your posts,it's always a pleasure...so please follow your heart and stay with us ;)

Et moi aussi,parfoisil m'arrive de croire qu'il peut être vraiment décédé mais même dans cette éventualité le mystère plane...je serais triste de te voir partir sans savoir le dénouement de cette aventure rocambolesque...Bonne année à toi et tes proches...L.O.V.E
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 05:59:41 PM
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Well I threw in the towel, I no longer believe.
My head told me that he died even though my heart said no.
Let me explain why]

Most of us can understand your personal conclusions.  Please do check in from time to time so you will be abreast of the "REVEAL",  :D  :D  :D

Love to you and your family...
Kathi
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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 02, 2010, 06:01:39 PM
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Did you ever think that maybe Michael is meeting his kids without the paparazzi's? How do you know he isnt seeing kids just because you dont have evidence of it? There's a big possibility the kids have travelled to the house he is staying at (perhaps even the Encino family house) and that they see him on a regular basis. Just because you dont see Michael Jackson + three children together walking on the streets of LA with paparazzis surrounding them it dosnt mean they dont have any contact with each other. There's a thing called privacy and thats what they are doing, they are meeting up in privacy.

Yep, we see what he wants us to see, when he wants us to see it, and how he wants us to see it.

 :D  :D  :D
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 08:09:09 PM
I respect the OP's feelings and opinions. I have my own doubts from time to time, but I'm on a quest for the truth and don't plan to give up any time soon. If I ever do, I don't plan to make any posts about it, I'll just leave...but that's just me.

All I want to say here is that feelings are NOT wrong. You can't blame someone for their feelings, anymore than they can blame you for yours. And if you start reading a thread that really bothers you, then hey, stop reading and use the Back arrow on your browser and get out of it. Why put yourself through any sort of torture or frustration when you have the means to escape it? You can't change someone else's feelings. Just let them be. Whatever is the right path for them is their choice alone.

I'm not one to make resolutions, but I did make one this year: that I will leave threads that bother me to any great extent. In my case, these are threads that generally have to do with Karen Faye, Dave Dave, the Illuminati, LMP, and the people who are having a change of heart and/or leaving the community. Most of these threads end up frustrating me beyond belief. There are exceptions, of course. But if I start reading any thread that irritates me, I am just leaving it! It doesn't serve any purpose to argue, just for the sake of arguing. And that's really all it turns out to be in most cases, because it becomes a war of wills between a poster and myself--and that is simply a war that can't be won.

So I'm endeavoring to rise above it, stay focused on the goal (the TRUTH), and avoid any threads that provoke excessive negativity in me and a need to argue about someone's feelings. I'm all for healthy debate of a theory or evidence or clues--that's how we get to truth. But feelings are just something else all together. So I personally am trying not to do that. To the OP, I wish you all the best. You love MJ, and so do I. We're just on different paths. And that's OK. Take care.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 11:12:07 PM
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I respect the OP's feelings and opinions. I have my own doubts from time to time, but I'm on a quest for the truth and don't plan to give up any time soon. If I ever do, I don't plan to make any posts about it, I'll just leave...but that's just me.

All I want to say here is that feelings are NOT wrong. You can't blame someone for their feelings, anymore than they can blame you for yours. And if you start reading a thread that really bothers you, then hey, stop reading and use the Back arrow on your browser and get out of it. Why put yourself through any sort of torture or frustration when you have the means to escape it? You can't change someone else's feelings. Just let them be. Whatever is the right path for them is their choice alone.

I'm not one to make resolutions, but I did make one this year: that I will leave threads that bother me to any great extent. In my case, these are threads that generally have to do with Karen Faye, Dave Dave, the Illuminati, LMP, and the people who are having a change of heart and/or leaving the community. Most of these threads end up frustrating me beyond belief. There are exceptions, of course. But if I start reading any thread that irritates me, I am just leaving it! It doesn't serve any purpose to argue, just for the sake of arguing. And that's really all it turns out to be in most cases, because it becomes a war of wills between a poster and myself--and that is simply a war that can't be won.

So I'm endeavoring to rise above it, stay focused on the goal (the TRUTH), and avoid any threads that provoke excessive negativity in me and a need to argue about someone's feelings. I'm all for healthy debate of a theory or evidence or clues--that's how we get to truth. But feelings are just something else all together. So I personally am trying not to do that. To the OP, I wish you all the best. You love MJ, and so do I. We're just on different paths. And that's OK. Take care.

I agree. I do the same thing.

I had already made up my mind long ago not to give up a long time ago. I guess I already had it in mind he wouldn't be back for a while. But I still have to go day by day. Doubt always comes and I have to do battle with it everyday. Some of them are tougher than others.

Keep the Faith!
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 03, 2010, 02:16:17 AM
I hope you and your family had a great holiday and will have a great year. I know it's hard because it's been so long. I don't think I'll be right until I know what happened. I hope you give it some more thought and decide to stay with us. If you decide not, that's okay too. You will still be just as much a fan as all of us.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 03, 2010, 03:03:19 AM
@ Michaelangelo

You have a point about about the father thing....

BUT we dont know what is going on behind the scenes so we can't say for sure what is or isn'T going on in the fatherhood department.

I still choose to hang on because I cant dissmiss all the other stuff we have discussed in this forum. Yes there are some threads that are a little out there but there are other ones that one cant ignore ;) IMO He may not be back and maybe he will but he lives! :D
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 03, 2010, 06:18:56 AM
Jesus! I have to reprint my post one more time, it just disappear. It was very long though.

Have you ever heard about webcameras and Skype? 8-)
Michael can keep in touch with his kids 24 hours/ 365 days a year! yes, you might think it's not complete realtionship between parent and his children, but it's better then isolation.
Noone knows they accounts and IPs, and they can have dynamic IPs, so it's safe, secure and great for them all.

By the way, he can actually live in Encino house with his kids and mother (I heard Joseph doesn't live with Katherine anymore) and his friends and siblings can visit him anytime! :P With his money and so many people who love him around he can stay there for years untill the media frenzy will go down.
Then he can leave the house and start new complete life as a common man. Who knows how he would look after all. He can afford any surgery and treatment, maybe even become black again and put some weight for good. Do new hairslyle, new look, don't use make up and disguise his age. Noone would believe it's him.
He will be able to shop. go the cinemas as normal guy, and do some other stuff. you know...

Ok, I went too far, but you have to admit it make sence.

And by the way if you think a parent can live so long without his kids, please answer me a question - can normal kids act like this if their father really died? Can they go to karate and shopping?

I remember my friends died I couln't do anything.

I'm not MJ kid, but I feel like a fell to pieces and can't put myself together. I can't say the same thing about his family. This is the most suspicious thing, the biggest clue! Or they are the weirdeest weirdos and freaks in this world! :x
watch Paris speech one more time. Do you believe her? Me - no :)
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 03, 2010, 06:23:11 AM
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Jesus! I have to reprint my post one more time, it just disappear. It was very long though.

Have you ever heard about webcameras and Skype? 8-)
Michael can keep in touch with his kids 24 hours/ 365 days a year! yes, you might think it's not complete realtionship between parent and his children, but it's better then isolation.
Noone knows they accounts and IPs, and they can have dynamic IPs, so it's safe, secure and great for them all.

By the way, he can actually live in Encino house with his kids and mother (I heard Joseph doesn't live with Katherine anymore) and his friends and siblings can visit him anytime! :P With his money and so many people who love him around he can stay there for years untill the media frenzy will go down.
Then he can leave the house and start new complete life as a common man. Who knows how he would look after all. He can afford any surgery and treatment, maybe even become black again and put some weight for good. Do new hairslyle, new look, don't use make up and disguise his age. Noone would believe it's him.
He will be able to shop. go the cinemas as normal guy, and do some other stuff. you know...

Ok, I went too far, but you have to admit it make sence.

And by the way if you think a parent can live so long without his kids, please answer me a question - can normal kids act like this if their father really died? Can they go to karate and shopping?

I remember my friends died I couln't do anything.

I'm not MJ kid, but I feel like a fell to pieces and can't put myself together. I can't say the same thing about his family. This is the most suspicious thing, the biggest clue! Or they are the weirdeest weirdos and freaks in this world! :x
watch Paris speech one more time. Do you believe her? Me - no :)

I forgot to say, I don't think he will come back so I don't expent it. The opposite, I want him to be free, but he still can give us some new music, like if he wrote it "'before", or give us some ultimate clue that only real fans can understand and disappear forever.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 03, 2010, 06:35:01 AM
you write from the perspective of a parent...i can only write from the perspective of a daughter...so I am almost 30 but the thought of losing my parent is scaring the shit outta me...i cannot imagine that moment, so i don't wanna judge, but all i wanna say that my behaviour would not be even close to the one of jackson family, that is not the behaviour of a mourning family
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 03, 2010, 06:49:07 AM
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you write from the perspective of a parent...i can only write from the perspective of a daughter...so I am almost 30 but the thought of losing my parent is scaring the shit outta me...i cannot imagine that moment, so i don't wanna judge, but all i wanna say that my behaviour would not be even close to the one of jackson family, that is not the behaviour of a mourning family

This is exactly what I was trying to say at the end of my passage :D .
Thank you.

We have to admit that we dont really have any real clues but this, because fake ambulance picture can be made before and was sold because they couldn't get real ambulance picture. And the same is other stuff, life death certificate (which could be made on valid blanc by any person, not even Latoya to put online), 911 call, Murray and other suspicious stuff.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 03, 2010, 06:58:46 AM
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Please.. dudes.. you are depressing me.
I hope
I love Michael. I dont want to be on this Earth if he is not.

Ive just spent the last 48 hours in bed.  I didnt eat and i didnt go out.

I am depressed over all of this.  I just want closure.

I wish to know what has happened to Michael.
You sound in a bad way do you know I was thinking the same this is driving me mad I will have to go for a while then I walked my dog to clear my head and I thought pains.    Not pain and the photo of people so happy at the memorial it does not add up some one so special has died and they laugh. What the heck.  So I am back again I left for 10 mins. I try to be like eveybody else except it but you just can't
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 03, 2010, 07:07:23 AM
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I respect the OP's feelings and opinions. I have my own doubts from time to time, but I'm on a quest for the truth and don't plan to give up any time soon. If I ever do, I don't plan to make any posts about it, I'll just leave...but that's just me.

All I want to say here is that feelings are NOT wrong. You can't blame someone for their feelings, anymore than they can blame you for yours. And if you start reading a thread that really bothers you, then hey, stop reading and use the Back arrow on your browser and get out of it. Why put yourself through any sort of torture or frustration when you have the means to escape it? You can't change someone else's feelings. Just let them be. Whatever is the right path for them is their choice alone.

I'm not one to make resolutions, but I did make one this year: that I will leave threads that bother me to any great extent. In my case, these are threads that generally have to do with Karen Faye, Dave Dave, the Illuminati, LMP, and the people who are having a change of heart and/or leaving the community. Most of these threads end up frustrating me beyond belief. There are exceptions, of course. But if I start reading any thread that irritates me, I am just leaving it! It doesn't serve any purpose to argue, just for the sake of arguing. And that's really all it turns out to be in most cases, because it becomes a war of wills between a poster and myself--and that is simply a war that can't be won.

So I'm endeavoring to rise above it, stay focused on the goal (the TRUTH), and avoid any threads that provoke excessive negativity in me and a need to argue about someone's feelings. I'm all for healthy debate of a theory or evidence or clues--that's how we get to truth. But feelings are just something else all together. So I personally am trying not to do that. To the OP, I wish you all the best. You love MJ, and so do I. We're just on different paths. And that's OK. Take care.

I agree. I do the same thing.

I had already made up my mind long ago not to give up a long time ago. I guess I already had it in mind he wouldn't be back for a while. But I still have to go day by day. Doubt always comes and I have to do battle with it everyday. Some of them are tougher than others.

Keep the Faith!

Yep, me too - I am getting a little tired of posting an opinion or thought and ending up being attacked for my views - so, like you, I will not bother with those threads.  I need to concentrate on getting to the bottom of this mystery  and I don't have a  lot of time to do it as I work all the time and can't really check this site at work and a lot of my spare time is spoken for.  When I do get the time to be here, I want it to be productive.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 03, 2010, 09:08:32 AM
Agree with you, Datroot.  Same here.  I'm so tired all the time, working 6 days a week, and 6/25/09 took such a toll on my physical well-being, ....I'm not getting any younger!  Please forgive me if some posts don't make much sense.  Thanks to everyone who contributes here.  I wish you all well this new year and I appreciate and love you ALL!
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 03, 2010, 09:54:25 AM
Thank you Angel - love you too xx
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