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Offline GwenMadlyn

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White Sheet?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 03:10:54 PM
Okay. So I'm new here, and I don't know if this was ever brought up.

Look at this picture.

That is Heath Ledger being taken out of his apartment after being pronounced dead.
See the BLACK BODY BAG?

Now look at this picture.


That is Michael Jackson being taken into the coroner's van, I believe.
See the WHITE SHEET?

Now at this point Michael was pronounced dead. Why on God's good earth would they put a white sheet over him instead of using a body bag? No, that's not a trick question, I don't know the answer and I don't know how exactly this relates to the death hoax. But really? Why would he get different treatment from any other dead man? Maybe it's because he's not dead? Let me know what you think.
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 03:13:28 PM
I do not know the use there....
I investigated and it blue corpse bags are also used
Obviously no uniform thing
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 03:16:10 PM
It was discussed that usually there are blue plastic bags with a top zipper being in use.
Reason: there may be liquids leaving the body.

If I remember right, *Michael...L.O.V.E.* (whoever is that) stated on LKL blog that these white sheets were from MJ's house.
And I remember that days after 6/25 there was the family taking truckwise goods out of the mansion and in media they were referred to as "taking toys and sheets out".

Oh and white means "innocent".
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 03:16:27 PM
Heath Ledger was in New York.. MJ was in La La Land..  that may make a difference.
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 03:16:56 PM
i think a black bag is used for the removal of a body from a house, and the white sheet is used when it's being removed from a hospital or any other medical related building such as coroner... but it's what i think, maybe not fact at all
and the blue bag would be used for removing a body on the street
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 03:17:29 PM
Not only is there the body bag discrepancy, but just look at all the papparazi in the background on Heath's picture.
Compare that to MJ. Is it just me or is it weird that all this footage seems to come just from the helicopter overhead?
Oh, and why did it take 2 months to bury him when Heath and Brittany were buried right away?
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 03:19:24 PM
I believe Heath died in NYC if I am not mistaken...there are many different colors/styles of bodybags...hospitals often use 'shrouds' which are a thin plastic sheet that is tied around the ankles, waste and neck area of the body.  There is no standard shroud/body bag across the nation  ;)
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 03:55:42 PM
Quote from: "susie_23"
Not only is there the body bag discrepancy, but just look at all the papparazi in the background on Heath's picture.
Compare that to MJ. Is it just me or is it weird that all this footage seems to come just from the helicopter overhead?
Oh, and why did it take 2 months to bury him when Heath and Brittany were buried right away?

Yes, I agree completely.

There seems to be no ground-level shot of this moment, no pictures showing the stretcher being taken into the van, etc. Which is EXTREMELY strange.

That is so weird. The autopsies were delayed and delayed some more, and then the toxicology reports took FOREVER.
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:20:08 PM
And why isn't the body strapped down especially during transport.
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:35:35 PM
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And why isn't the body strapped down especially during transport.

Mhm. Many many questions.
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:36:29 PM
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I do not know the use there....
I investigated and it blue corpse bags are also used
Obviously no uniform thing

Yes, I know that blue bags are used.

Black and blue mean two different things, but it's never just a plain white sheet.

He also isn't strapped down while being transported
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:46:41 PM
97. Michael Jackson was rolled out of the helicopter covered in a white sheet (that didn’t really look like it had a body underneath it IMO.), They normally have a blue thicker material they cover the body with. Or sometimes a black bag, depending on location and circumstances I suppose. But never a white sheet. Generally whatever is covering the body has text on it like LA County Coroner or something of that nature. This was just a white sheet with no identifying markers on it of any kind.

http://mjtruth.wordpress.com/the-weird-list/

The weird list. This basically explains what I'm trying to say.  :mrgreen:
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:59:32 PM
That's true the body was not strapped down during transportation. Why didn't they put the body in the blue bag before transport, since they were going to coroner's office. Also, did you notice the men getting in and out of van and the men walking around like they didn't know what to do. I wonder what they were doing inside the van. Too many unanswered questions.
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 10:47:36 PM
well, here is a link for a video in youtube that it explains (i guess :P) about the non-security to the transport of the body or why we don't see when they take the black bands before getting the suposedly death body into the van.

and about the blue/black/sheet cover, you can see the blue bag on the stretcher that cames out of the van.. but they don't use it!

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Re: White Sheet?

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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 02, 2010, 06:14:53 AM
Quote from: "techdiva"
Also, did you notice the men getting in and out of van and the men walking around like they didn't know what to do. I wonder what they were doing inside the van.

They were having a party LOL - no honestly, they were swarming in and out like a bee hive.
As if they had to get last minute orders (so not knowing what to do).

You could say that celebrities are not a rare species in L.A.
Further celebrities' deaths are not uncommon in L.A.
Right?

So usually also with an unusual case of death you would assume the persons in charge of duty would be trained and know what to do when?
So why not in this case?
I would say because it was the most unusual exception that they ever had to face in their job.

All of this given the case that the filmed material REALLY comes from UCLA, the coroner's and Forest Lawn - which we have no proof of. Helis may be rented for any movie in L.A., ambulances and all other equipment as well.

So remaining two alternatives:
* it was filmed on the right spots of attention with the real people in charge - then they (strangely) did not know what to do;
* it was not filmed on the real sites and then we are talking actors getting their last instructions on the storybook.

Anyway, after all, I don't think it does matter whether they were actors or real people.
The effect was the same.
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 02, 2010, 06:59:17 AM
If,and I repeat IF MJ converted to Islam then this would explain the white sheet I think.Isn't this a Muslim thing?
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 02, 2010, 07:02:50 AM
I dont wanna be negative but if you look good to the 2 pictures you see the footend is the same.Maybe a white bodybag?Can somone maybe zoom in?Thanks.
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 02, 2010, 07:18:16 AM
it just looks so wrong to me never seen a body transported like that before what would have happened it somebody tripped doesnt bear thinking about.
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Re: White Sheet?

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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 02, 2010, 07:42:36 AM
Only bodybags when a body is found on a crimescene... If he died at a hospital he will be wrapped in a sheet..
So above is the explanation, but this counts for ´normal´ ppl... This was Michael Jackson and he was being transported with a helicopter to get the body examend....  Would this explain why they showed the body like this in a white sheet, it is more obvious and they did not have to show his body during the memorial to the publik...
Why this dramatic thouch to everything....... No I get it!!!...
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 02, 2010, 08:41:48 AM
Even though this was apparently the body of Michael Jackson all cases are treated  infectious for blood borne pathogens hence the use of a body bag. We can clearly see that the guys transporting Heaths body are wearing gloves I wonder if this was the same in Michael case but, it’s difficult to tell from the aerial shot. In the book, "Death Scene Investigation: A Field Guide “states that some pathologist recommends that the body be wrapped in a clean white sheet because trace evidence can be lost in a large body bag.  Interestingly the book also states that a method of transporting a body would be to firstly wrap the body in a clean sheet then place it in a clean body bag.
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 02, 2010, 08:42:59 AM
To me it seems like MJ is wrapped in plastic.. His feets are sticking up, and it looks damn uncomfortable.
His body is too stiff, and seems like arms are ripped off, and his head.. Guess its fake.
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 02, 2010, 09:38:10 AM
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Yes there are such things as white body bags, but someone else also posted a picture of the body bags the LA Coroner traditionally uses; a blue body bag.

I'm not really sure at this point if it has anything to do with the hoax, but it still doesn't make much sense to me.
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Re: White Sheet?

  • on: January 02, 2010, 11:04:39 AM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
I do not know the use there....
I investigated and it blue corpse bags are also used
Obviously no uniform thing
Not just black or blue but white bodybags as well.I google searched it and found out that body bags come in white colour too. I have seen it in a movie too. But in Michael's case, I think it's a sheet adn not bodybag.....
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