911 call: Paramedic 33

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911 call: Paramedic 33

  • on: April 30, 2018, 08:08:44 AM
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Here is a transcript of the 911 call:

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Operator: Paramedic 33, what is the address of your emergency?
Caller: I need an ambulance as soon as possible, sir
Ok sir, what's your address?
100 North Carolwood Drive, Los Angeles California, 90077
Carolwood?
Carolwood Drive, yes,
Ok sir, what's the phone number you are calling from?
Sir, we have a gentleman here that needs help. He's stopped breathing, he's not breathing and we are trying to pump him, but he's not, he's not...
Ok ok, how old is he?
He's 50 years old, sir
Ok. He's not conscious, he's not breathing?
Yes, he's not breathing sir
And he's not conscious either?
No, he's not conscious sir
Ok (pause). Alright, is he on the floor, where's he at right now?
He's on the bed sir, he's on the bed
Ok let's get him on the floor
Ok
Ok let's get him down to the floor. I'm gonna help you with CPR right now, Ok
We need him... we need a...
Yes, we're already on our way there. We're on our way. I'm gonna do as far as I can to help you over the phone. We're already on our way. Did anybody see him?
Yes we have a personal doctor here with him, sir
Oh you have a doctor there?
Yes. But he's not responding to anything to no... no... he's not responding to the CPR or anything
Oh, OK. Well we're on our way there. If your guy is doing CPR and you're instructed by a doctor he has a higher authority than me. And he's there on the scene
Ok
Did anybody witness what happened?
No, just the doctor, sir. The doctor's been the only one here
Ok so did the doctor see what happened?
Doctor, did you see what happened sir? (inaudible voice) Sir, just, if you can please...
We are on our way. We are on our way. I'm just passing these questions on to my paramedics who are on their way there, sir.
Thank you sir. He's pumping, he's pumping his chest but he's not responding to anything sir. Please
Ok, OK, we are on our way. We are less than a mile away and we will be there shortly.
Thank you sir, thank you
Ok sir. Call us back if you need any help. Thank you

There is a few things wrong here. The caller specifically mentions that the patient is not breathing. Then he says 'we are trying to pump him'. Not breathing does not mean you need to start pumping. You start pumping when there is no pulse. Now a 911 operator will advise CPR anyway but we know from Murray that Michael supposedly had a pulse and was not breathing. In that case you start ventilating, not pumping.

Paramedic 33 never asks about a pulse since that has not been required to ask since 2000. Many people are not able to register a pulse right or know how to, so when a patient is unconscious and not breathing, CPR is always advised to make sure the patient has received the chest pumps in case they were needed.

But when the paramedic learns there is a doctor working on the patient, he says the doctor has a higher authority than him and actually hangs up the phone. Regardless of whether or not that is standard procedure, how can the paramedic hang up the phone after he learned from the caller that the so called doctor is pumping the patient on a bed? That alone should have told him the doctor might in fact not be a doctor at all and he is still needed to make sure the CPR given is done the right way.
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Re: 911 call: Paramedic 33

  • on: April 30, 2018, 08:10:18 AM
There are a lot of strange and wrong things in this call, why did the guy who made the call didn't specify Michael Jackson had a heart attack?
At some point there's a female voice say "less than a minute left", what does it mean?

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Re: 911 call: Paramedic 33

  • on: June 24, 2019, 06:52:28 PM
So many failures.
And here we go again, and again, and again... :Rainning:

 

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