The PT Barnum References Collection Thread

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The PT Barnum References Collection Thread

  • on: April 30, 2018, 07:42:28 AM
Whoever has been a hoaxer since the very start will remember tons and tons of PT Barnum references in this hoax. I'd like to use this thread to collect everything concerning these references.

Here is an old post from the original MJHD by sunnyscrapper:

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That News of the World photo was clearly staged but was it sold to them as just another example of the media who will print anything given to them.
I believe there are things in that photo that are very odd and are therefore clues telling us that Michael staged this whole event.
I wanted to summarise all the posts I have made on this with a couple of other observations:
Warning : These theories involve PT Barnum who was Michael's inspiration. If you don't support the other PT Barnmum links then this is not the post for you. Some of the links may seem tenuous but maybe we need to think laterally.
The links to the threads are shown if you want to follow it up further.
I am convinced that this whole event has been planned and that Michael wants us to work it out. This picture is just part of the puzzle we need to solve!

1. The Fiji Mineral water (why this brand?  - PT Barnum Fiji Mermaid)
https://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/old_mjhd/index_6588.html
2. The unopened toothpaste – PT Barnum advertising claims and Pepsodent toothpaste advertising
https://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/old_mjhd/index_6589.html
3. Porcelain doll – Jenny Lind (singer who Barnum promoted heavily through merchandising including porcelain dolls)
https://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/old_mjhd/index_6587.html
4. Orange juice – PT Barnum Speculation in Oranges
https://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/old_mjhd/index_6590.html
5. The Middle Eastern Prayer Beads/Turkish Rug and the Cushion
The middle eastern link is to a house. PT Barnmum built 4 homes, the main one was a Moorish revival mansion which was his 'country seat'. He called it IRANISTAN. Here is a picture of it. There is more on Wikipedia about it.

Sadly this beautiful palace was burnt down and the fire was believed to have been started by a workman who left a lit pipe on a cushion from the circular seat in the dome.
6. The incontinence pad  – Schlitzie the Pinhead
This one was a real challenge. How about this…Schlitzie the Pinhead was a sideshow performer who worked with Barnum circus amongst others. 'She' was actually a 'he' and wore a dress.
'Most sources say the choice to dress him like this was also due to his incontinence, as Schlitzie had to wear diapers and such clothing made it easier to care for him.[6]'
It does go on to say 'However, even this is debatable, as most pictures show that Schlitzie was in fact wearing pants under his dress and some who knew him have said that he didn't develop incontinence until later in life[3].' Make of this what you will…..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlitzie
7. The Tourniquet – link to The Residents
'The Residents are an American avant-garde music and visual arts group. They have created over sixty albums, created numerous musical short films, designed three CD-ROM projects and ten DVDs, and undertaken seven major world tours. Throughout their career, spanning nearly four decades, they have not disclosed their identity.'
Their Freak Show CD Rom was dedicated to PT Barnum.
'The Residents' Freak Show CD-ROM transforms your computer into an amazing animated twilight zone, unlike anything you've ever experienced. Meet Tex the Barker, Herman the Human Mole, Harry the Head, Wanda the Worm Woman, Jelly Jack, Benny the Bump, and those freaks of contemporary art, The Residents. See their incredible performances and navigate through bizarre backstage worlds.
Freak Show's Big Top offers amazing spectacles, but the freaks' stranger-than-fiction stories come magically to life when you sneak behind the circus tent and into their trailers. Discover fetishes, fantasies, rituals, and tragic secrets through photos, comics, music, music videos, and animation. You can even explore the history of freaks. Your fascination with “difference” will ultimately illuminate many other paths through this theme park of the imagination. Featuring spectacular animation designed by Jim Ludtke, Freak Show is a revolutionary new audio-visual experience, envisioning the future of interactive stories, music video, and digital art. '
Tourniquet of Roses was the original title of another of their albums.
8. Oxygen Mask
There is a link to the name of a man named Barnum who patented an oxygen mask in 1911. This was clearly no link to PT Barnum himself who died in 1891 but still interesting that the name was the same.
'U.S. Pat. No. 1,000,706, issued to Barnum on Aug. 15, 1911, … provides an unsophisticated and cumbersome respirator mask which was secured by several elastic straps and covered a large area of the bearer's lower face…  Barnum's mask lacked several safeguards necessary for use in a clinical hospital setting'

Add all this to the other PT Barnum references like:
 TMZ acting as the 'brickman' (see post relating to this)
Joice Seth – Barnum's claim that the autopsy for this woman was done on the wrong body (?)
Ringling Barnum Circus just happened to be arriving in LA on the day of Michael's funeral.
Also the similarity between the way he 'died' and that of Barnum:
One of the requests made by Mr. Barnum was that, when all hope was gone, sedatives which would make his passage to the next world more peaceful be administered. About 4 o'clock this morning the veteran showman spoke his last words. He was asked if he wished a drink of water, and answered, “Yes.” Soon after he sank into a lethargy. It was difficult to arouse him from this state, and on opening his eyes a faint gleam of recognition alone indicated that he had knowledge of his surroundings, or knew those about him. All day long Mr. Barnum lay in a semi-unconscious state. About 10 o'clock the first sedative was administered, and repeated several times during the day.

I think someone must be having a joke at our expense!

https://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/old_mjhd/index_2909.html

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Re: The PT Barnum References Collection Thread

  • on: April 30, 2018, 07:43:15 AM
There is also a PT Barnum movie coming out this year (which initially was to start production in August 2009 http://www.indiewire.com/2011/08/michael-gracey-to-direct-hugh-jackman-musical-the-greatest-showman-on-earth-116851/) called 'The Greatest Showman'...I remember on the old forum this was also mentioned quite a bit when referring to MJ (about MJ being a great showman).

And yes, don't forget on the early morning of MJ's memorial the Barnum elephants walking outside the Staples Center with 'The Greatest Show on Earth' signs. A CIRCUS. Which is what this hoax has been. And at what time were these elephants been paraded? Yep, 4:00 am. The same time PT Barnum spoke for the final time before he died.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleashed/2009/07/-michael-jackson-elephants-ringling-brothers-barnum-staples.html

Also OT but my username was already on this new forum but I do not remember registering on here. Were the usernames carried over from the old forum?
Do you give up yet?

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Re: The PT Barnum References Collection Thread

  • on: April 30, 2018, 07:43:44 AM
Also OT but my username was already on this new forum but I do not remember registering on here. Were the usernames carried over from the old forum?

Yes they were! You should be able to log in with that username. If you have let me know so I can merge your usernames.

 

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