Who Is Conrad R Murray?

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Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: September 25, 2014, 04:53:13 PM
I think most of us believe that Conrad is in the middle of all of this and there has been an enormous amount of information on this guy.

I thought maybe it would help if all of this info was in one place - it might connect some dots seeing it side by side.

Personal Info:

Birthdate:   February 19, 1953 (bio online) http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/03/us/conrad-murray-fast-facts/index.html
                 February 19, 1958 (credit report from AEG trial) http://www.psblaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Exhibit-462-4726to462-4727.pdf
                 February 19, 1959 (mug shot from 1994 for Domestic Violence)

Birthplace:   St. Andrews, Grenada (bio online) http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/03/us/conrad-murray-fast-facts/index.html

Parents:       Rawle Andrews Sr. and Milta (step father Leon Augustin Rush)

Siblings:       Ronald Andrews (1/2 brother)
                   Rawle Andrews Jr. (1/2 brother)
                   Rhonda Andrews Bowers (1/2 sister)
                   Rhetta Andrews (1/2 sister)
                   Susan (Suzan) Rush (½ sister)

Children:     7 that I know of (but only 3 have information about them online)

Marriage/Divorces: 

MARRIAGE RECORD

State: TEXAS
Type: Marriage
Filing Number: 192902
County: HARRIS
Marriage Date: 10/17/1984
Party 1
Name: MURRAY, CONRAD R
Type: GROOM
Age: 31
Address: TX
Party 2
Name: TESFAI, ZUFAN
Type: BRIDE
Age: 23
Address: TX

DIVORCE RECORD

Party 1
Name: MURRAY, CONRAD R
Type: HUSBAND
Address: TX
Party 2
Name: MURRAY, ZUFAN
Type: WIFE
Age: 27
Address: TX

Conrad Murray's Wife: Blanche Yvette Bolick Murray:
DOB: 8/28/1962
344-66-xxxx

I have never seen the marriage certificate for Murray and Blanche and haven't been able to find a record of it anywhere.


SS#’s:        464-51-3799* (credit report from AEG trial) was issued in Texas, 1981 (possibly born 1971) 
                  601-29-3121* (credit report from AEG trial) was issued in Arizona, 1992-1995 (possibly born 1981)
                  289-78-1390* (credit report from AEG trial) was issued in Ohio, 1982 (possibly born 1972)
                  454-51-3799**** (credit report from AEG trial) was issued in Texas, 1980 (possibly born 1970)

Source for SSN issued date: http://www.stevemorse.org/ssn/ssn.html

Source for SSN#’s (AEG trial) : http://www.psblaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Exhibit-462-4726to462-4727.pdf

Info from credit report provided from the AEG trial:

TTX2 RHS ****MURRAY, CONRAD ROBERT 454513799; CA-2426 GRASSY SPRING PLACE/LAS VEGAS NV 89135; Y-1951- K-PH, H-YM T-2B

*Las Vegas NV 89101
RPTD: 5-08 U 1X

*12520 SWAN CANYON CT
SAN DIEGO CA 921313542
RPTD: 12-07 U

* CONRAD B MURRAY, CONRAD BONNICK-MURRAY,
* CONRAD MD, CONRAD R MURRAY SR, CONRAD MC MURRAY

FRAUD SHIELD SUMMARY
INPUT SSN ISSUED 1979-1981 (issued years matches to SSN’s provided above for 464-51 and 454-51)
SSN REPORTED MORE FREQUENTLY FOR ANOTHER
FROM 8-01-09 INQ COUNT FOR SSN=2
FROM 8-01-09 INQ COUNT FOR ADDRESS=1

Known Addresses:  link to forum thread and link from AEG trial
 
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,7340.msg119647.html#msg119647
http://www.psblaw.com/wpcontent/uploads/2013/05/Exhibit-462-4726to462-4727.pdf

                      2579 Red Springs Drive, Las Vegas, Nevada (online property records)
                      2426 Grassy Spring Place, Las Vegas, Nevada (raid and police interview)
                      12520 Swan Canyon Ct., San Diego, CA  (AEG trial)
                                 

Education:  http://www.biography.com/people/dr-conrad-murray-481814?page=1
                 http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/06/26/concert-promoter-says-hired-doctor-to-be-with-jackson?mrp

                     Texas Southern University (1981) SSN 464-51-3799
                     Meharry Medical College (graduated 1989)
                     Mayo Clinic (somewhere between 1989 and 1992)
                     Loma Linda University (1992) SSN 601-29-3121                     
                     University of AZ (1995) SSN 601-29-3121
                     Sharp Memorial Hospital/San Diego (1996) SSN 601-29-3121

Knowing Michael:  treated kids in December 2006
                           Became personal Dr. in May 2009 (prescribed drugs in Nov. 2008 – autopsy report)


Professional Info:

1999/2000 – NEVADA – Global Cardiovascular
http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=0%252bAX%252b9r1sCoSf5Evz0DYag%253d%253d&nt7=0
File Date:   3/17/2000
Registered Agent Information 
Name:   CONRAD R MURRAY MD Address 1:   2121 E FLAMINGO SUITE #301
Address 2:    City:   LAS VEGAS
State:   NV Zip Code:   89119
Secretary - STACEY RUGGLES
Treasurer - SUSAN RUSH
http://www.ucomparehealthcare.com/drs/conrad_murray/
Dr. Conrad Murray
2110 E Flamingo Rd
Suite 210
Las Vegas, NV 89119
702-866-6802
Neighborhood
Paradise

In addition 3 other physicians are listed for this same address and more importantly same suite # but different phone #.
http://www.ucomparehealthcare.com/drs/report2.html?L=6323836818383833183361&R=LUx799PEhAODQzJ1omB52OdoD&I=63238368

Another known address for Global Cardiovascular Associates (this addresses has never been part of the hoax-same phone number as the Flamingo address and on Michael Amir’s phone from the trial)

http://www.wellness.com/dir/2355044/cardiologist/nv/las-vegas/conrad-murray-global-cardiovascular-assoc-md#referrer
Year? – NEVADA - 3121 S. Maryland Parkway, Suite 602, Las Vegas, Nevada
Global Cardiovascular Assoc
3121 S Maryland Pkwy Ste 602
Las Vegas, NV 89109
Phone
(702) 866-6802

Fax
(702) 866-6904

http://www.freemaptools.com/how-far-is-it-between.htm
Distance by Land Transport : 2.482
3121 s Maryland parkway and 2110 east flamingo road


Year? – San Diego, CA
The link I have no longer works but this is an excerpt from the article, dated Thu 07/13/2006
"Murray, who also has practices in Las Vegas and San Diego will be in the Acres Homes facility a few days each month, he sad, adding that he will personally perform specialized heart procedures".



2006 – Texas - Acres Homes Heart and Vascular Institute (509 West Tidwell Rd, Houston, TX)
The link I have no longer works but this is an excerpt from the article, dated Thu 07/13/2006
“The lobby of the Tidwell Medical Plaza, 509 Tidwell Drive, was filled on July 7 with residents from the Acres Homes community marking the opening of Acres Home Heart and Vascular Institute”.



http://business-search.org/texas/texas-corporation-search/
https://mycpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/Index.html



Year? – Texas - 6826 W Montgomery Rd, Houston, TX (raid)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMgRDH2fQ3s[/youtube]

The video above makes you think they are showing you the 6826 W Montgomery location but they show a plaque with Murrays name on it. When you google the other Dr.'s name it comes up as 6031 Airline Drive.






Year? – Texas
- 9999 Montgomery Rd, Houston TX

There is a video (I think from CNN) where the correspondent is talking about the 6826 Montgomery location but shows a clinic located at 9999 Montgomery instead. And yes that address does exist because I have been there. I'll keep searching for the video.

Feb. 2010 – NEVADA – 6725 S Eastern Ave (when he went back to work in Vegas)
http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/10/dr-conrad-murray-michael-jackson-work-las-vegas/







I am really curious about the different SSN #'s that Murray has, because by law you can only have one. And since he was not born in the US (at least that is what we have been made to believe) does a naturalized citizen receive a SSN or some other type of document when they move to the US? I have done some searching on this and will post it including the different SSN's associated with all of the liens.



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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: September 25, 2014, 11:34:55 PM
this is interesting. I do know that the first 3 digits of a SS# are based on the state you were born in, or the state you resided in when you applied for a #, if you were not issued one at birth. You can only have 1 # in your lifetime.

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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: September 26, 2014, 12:57:28 AM
And too (at least in my case) SSN’s are issued when you are around 10. Michael’s I think was issued when he was 10 or so.

If you look at the ones for Murray and take away 10 years from each one the age range now would be 33-44 years old. We know that isn’t correct.

Since he is not a US citizen (by birth anyway) and the info we have on all of the liens I would say he has the two TX SSN’s (464-51-3799 and 454-51-3799) and he received these when he became a naturalized citizen. The only thing I don’t know is if a SSN is issued or some other type of document is issued. If some other type of document is issued, then who do those SSN’s belong to?

Who the other SSN’s belong to, I don’t have a clue. Their ages would be approximately 33 and 42 if they received the SSN at age 10. They would be 22 and 32 if they received their SSN’s at the time of birth. They could be some of Murray’s kids.

Oh the tangled web that they have weaved for us  :moonwalk_:


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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: September 26, 2014, 01:56:32 AM
i received my SS# at birth. It just depends on when the application was made for it. It is not automatically assigned like a birth certificate. someone has to actually go and file for a #. MJ probably didn't receive his until he was 10 because that was a very common practice among poor people back in the 60s. Many of them didn't really see a need for one as they had gotten by for a lifetime without it. The SS administration will only issue one # per person. Even if you file bankruptcy, etc. You can read more here http://ssa.gov

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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: September 26, 2014, 05:16:07 AM
Iamhere, have you dismissed any 'Robert Earl Carter' connections to 'Conrad Murray'?  I remember a link was found between REC and Suzan Rush which I need to check out again.

(Trouble I'm finding at the moment, while re -looking at this Murray stuff, is that many of the original old links and forums no longer exist.)

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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: September 27, 2014, 12:14:59 AM
@curls, at this time I don't think Conrad is or ever was Robert Earl Carter only because I don't have any type of proof - that doesn't mean he can't be though. Having him listed under peoplefinders when you google Conrad Murray doesn't mean much to me.

I have tons of information, just let me know what you are specifically looking for and I will see if I have it. I learned early on in this investigation that if it is an article you have to save the whole article not just a link because links do disappear.

And just because I think one thing doesn't mean I won't search on it if the idea is plausible.

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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: September 27, 2014, 03:56:45 AM
@iamhere, I've found where I'd seen about Robert Earl Carter and Susan (?Suzan) Rush being connected - it's from an address:

" something else I found out which I think might be important, remember when that car was towed at mjs house and they said murray was driving it
 but it belonged to his sister Susan Rush, well I noticed on
peoplefinders it listed Susan rush as an associate or roommate of the
"murray's. So I did a googe check on her well I couldnt figure out if
she is related to them or if she is a real person,
The name Susan rush is a personal circus, like the Circus is called susan rush, and the
address for whoever owns the circus is 10629 Sandpiper Dr# 14 Houston
texas 77096
well That address is owned by robert Earl carter.
so im thinking its him who owns the Circus. the Suzan rush circus comes(performs) from Magnolia Texas. So the car that was owned by "suzan
 rush" may have been "Murray"s work car. If you Google the name Robert earl carter 2 things come up one that there is a obstrician that is named robert earl carter from Ca, and 2 a
circus owner. so Im thinking this dude really does circus things.
remember though when mj died the police couldnt find murray so they went to Suzan Rush"s house to find him or question her about where he was well they went to robert earl carters House. It was all staged from the getgo.
"

http://dianajeann.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/drconrad-murray-revealed.html

A lot of peoplefinders and google I know, which, like you, I'm always sceptical of, but from any additional information you may have, can you verify or dismiss this connection?

By the way, please check your messages - I PM'd you yesterday!

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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: September 27, 2014, 12:09:10 PM
Hi curls, I have replied to your PM which as I was typing a thought popped into my head - now I have to do some searching on it.

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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: September 28, 2014, 07:14:29 PM
Here are the medical licenses for Murray:



As of 09-28-2014 the above information was pulled from the individual State licensing look up website.

Here is some information on the address listed for the Texas license:

http://www.haynesboone.com/houston/

Haynes and Boone’s Houston office is involved in a wide array of corporate transactions and litigation work, with particular focus on the needs of Houston’s business community. Heavy emphasis is placed on the following sectors: Energy, and Oil & Gas, as well as Real Estate, Intellectual Property, Technology, Environmental, Business Litigation, Appeals, Business Reorganization, Bankruptcy, Labor and Employment, Tax, Corporate Securities, Mergers and Acquisitions, Public and International Law.

But our lawyers do even more: they are community leaders who give back much more than they take. In 2011, the Houston office was recognized by the Houston Bar Association as an Equal Access to Justice Champion for its continued support through the Houston Volunteer Lawyers Program. Our lawyers also serve as members of boards and in executive-level positions with many of the major cultural, educational, philanthropic and religious organizations in the city, as well as in leadership positions within bar and industry-related organizations.

Areas that Murray would fit in:
Appellate
Litigation/Trial Practice


http://www.bizapedia.com/addresses/1221-MCKINNEY-STREET-STE-2100-HOUSTON-TX-77010.html

There are 7 companies that have an address matching 1221 Mckinney Street, Ste. 2100 Houston, TX 77010.
The companies are Scana Industries Inc, Scana Oil And Gas Usa Inc, Texas Sonic Employers Trade Association Inc, Gulf States Oil Refining Company, Cyfair Minority Parents Association, International Housing Solutions LLC, and Dch Titan LLC.

I don't know why there would be a lawyers office (and one that we haven't heard of) listed. Why not just leave it blank?

Of the other companies listed at this Suite # I have only checked out Dch Titan LLC and see no connection.


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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: September 30, 2014, 09:14:26 PM
I've been looking through the liens and really didn't find any connections that were solid, but one record was interesting and that was the Citation for no proof of insurance and expired license plate.

I found the info on the Nevada Court Records:

http://www.clarkcountycourts.us/

102355940 (Citation #)
State of Nevada vs. MURRAY, CONRAD R
Case Type: Traffic
Date Filed: 10/12/2000
Location: Traffic
Criminal Case Number: 10002355940

02/19/2003 DISPOSITIONS Disposition (Judicial Officer: Boyles, Jim)
2. INSURANCE REQUIRED
Arraignment Pending
02/19/2003 Plea (Judicial Officer: Boyles, Jim)
1. EXPIRED LICENSE PLATE
Guilty
09/24/2006 Amnesty (Warrant)
#007 09/24/2006 10:48; SYSTEM; SYS; JDG-CHF; 0.00; 09/24/2006;
11/18/2010 Warrant Issued
06/29/2012 Unable to Locate
06/30/2012 Warrant Recalled
06/30/2012 Court Recalled from Collections
07/02/2012 Recalled from Outside Collections Processing
07/14/2012 Collections - Court Compliance Unit
07/20/2012 Case Closed - Unable to Locate
Defendant MURRAY, CONRAD R
Total Financial Assessment 85.00
Total Payments and Credits 85.00
Balance Due as of 09/30/2014 0.00
10/12/2000 Transaction Assessment 85.00
10/12/2000 Transaction Assessment 915.00
02/19/2003 Payment (Window) Receipt # 0005501636 MURRAY, CONRAD R   (85.00)
02/14/2009 Transaction Assessment 25.00
11/18/2010 Transaction Assessment 200.00
11/18/2010 Transaction Assessment 25.00


102355941 (Citation #)
State of Nevada vs. MURRAY, CONRAD R
Case Type: Traffic
Date Filed: 10/12/2000
Criminal Case Number: 10002355941

02/19/2003 DISPOSITIONS Disposition (Judicial Officer: Boyles, Jim)
1. DISMISSED CHARGE
Arraignment Pending
02/19/2003 Disposition (Judicial Officer: Boyles, Jim)
2. DISMISSED CHARGE
Arraignment Pending
Defendant MURRAY, CONRAD R
Total Financial Assessment 200.00
Total Payments and Credits 200.00
Balance Due as of 09/30/2014 0.00
10/12/2000 Transaction Assessment 100.00
10/12/2000 Transaction Assessment 100.00
02/19/2003 Payment (Window) Receipt # 0005501635 MURRAY, CONRAD R   (100.00)
02/19/2003 Payment (Window) Receipt # 0005501634 MURRAY, CONRAD R   (100.00)


$1165.00 was outstanding as of 11-18-2010 on 102355940
Case 102355940 was closed 07-20-2012 due to ‘can’t locate’
$285.00 was paid on 02-19-2003 between both citations (Citation # 102355941 was paid in full)





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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: October 01, 2014, 06:39:55 AM
You have to have an SS number as soon as you work. I am from Switzerland and while I was living in the States as a student I had to apply for one in order for me to work. The status of naturalized or not is irrelevant. The question is wether your visa allows work or not. So, if Murray is really a doctor and he got his work visa by order of qualifications alone he had to get a SS number. But we have another problem: To my knowledge every SS number is connected to one legal name. If his true name in fact is another and Murray just another legalised name then it explaines the four SS-numbers. But that also means there must be in fact yet two other names that this guy goes by. In total 4 different identities. If this guy is no doctor then it leaves the question open wether he was admitted to the US through CIA or FBI ...
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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: October 04, 2014, 12:06:47 PM
Thank you MFFreedom for the information about working via a Visa. That is reminding me of some information from sometime ago, maybe we can get something concrete...................

The other part of different SSN's will have to be worked on.

Anyone else have anything that can be added that they recall reading about or have first hand knowledge of?

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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: October 04, 2014, 07:59:21 PM
I went back to the probation and sentencing report that was created after Murray was found guilty:

<a href="http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/1129_murray_2.pdf" target="_blank">http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/1129_murray_2.pdf</a>

Here is a snap shot of the information I was looking for:



SID No. A308209I1 or A30820911 - SID stands for State Identification Number

Citizenship Status is NATURALIZED

Alien Registration No. is 040231745

Here is some info:

http://multimedia.journalism.berkeley.edu/tutorials/criminal-court-records/probation-reports/

criminal court records
By Paul Grabowicz   •   Updated Jul 22, 2013
Probation and Sentencing Reports

In California, if a defendant in a felony case has been convicted of a crime, a probation report will be prepared on the person.
The report is prepared in both plea bargains and jury verdicts, and it will be filed as part of the court record.

A probation report, prepared by the county probation department, is done to help the judge decide the appropriate sentence for the defendant. The report provides information such as:

•a description of the circumstances of the crime
•the person's family and work history.
•psychological evaluations of the person.
•an interview with the person.
•a detailed criminal history of the person, including prior criminal charges that were filed against him/her and in which courts they were filed. This is one of the only places where you can find a public record of a person's criminal history.
•a recommended sentence

The probation reports are sealed 60 days after a person is sentenced and are then no longer publicly available.

The only exception is if the person is charged with a new crime, in which case probation reports from the person's previous convictions are unsealed and available for public inspection in the courts where the previous convictions occurred.

Section 1203.05 of the California Penal Code specifies when a probation report is open to public inspection, including reports filed in a previous court case that should be unsealed when a new charge has been filed against the person:

"Any report of the probation officer filed with the court, including any report arising out of a previous arrest of the person who is the subject of the report, may be inspected or copied only as follows:"

"(a) By any person, from the date judgment is pronounced or probation granted or, in the case of a report arising out of a previous arrest, from the date the subsequent accusatory pleading is filed, to and including 60 days from the date judgment is pronounced or probation is granted, whichever is earlier."

A reporter should bring a copy of the new criminal complaint or even a news clipping about it to give to the clerk at the court for a previous case to show a new charge has been filed against the person and hence an old probation report should be made public again.
Some courts, such as in Alameda County, also have been challenging the right to access probation reports.

Similar reports, sometimes called sentencing or pre-sentencing reports, are filed for people found guilty of misdemeanor crimes and for people found guilty in federal court of federal crimes.

http://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/number

"A Number"

The alien registration number, which the Department of Homeland Security assigns to each alien. It is an "A" followed by eight numbers.   For example:    A12 345 678.  Some recently-issued A numbers consist of an "A" followed by nine digits. For example: A 200 345 678

http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/n039.htm

NATURALIZED CITIZEN

One who, being born an alien, has lawfully become a citizen of the United States Under the constitution and laws.

He has all the rights of a natural born citizen, except that of being eligible as president or vice-president of the United States. In foreign countries he has a right to be treated as such, and will be so considered even in the country of his birth, at least for most purposes.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AwrBTzajRzBUpgIAL3BXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzOWRvdm9yBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1NNRTY5OV8x?qid=20080509132013AAGyk7y

Do naturalized us citizens have an alien registration number?

If you are a naturalized citizen, then you should have a social security number. Use that. Or if you still have a doubt, then call the USCIS to ask. Also if you are out of teh country then contact the US Embassy. They will know exactly what number to use.

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So Murray's Alien Registration number should start with an A but it doesn't (040231745) the SID No. starts with an A though (A308209I1).

And according to the article, this report should no longer be available to the public, but yet it is.

One thing that is also interesting on the report is that the estimated days in jail is 41. He was found guilty 11/07/2011 and sentenced 11/29/2011 - that is not 41 days unless this is to represent being credited with extra days for 'good behavior'.

Sooo, Murray received an alien registration number when he first came to the states, then received his naturalization status which gave him a SSN#. But which one? And why would both numbers be referenced when he is no longer considered an Alien but a US Citizen?


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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: October 07, 2014, 04:17:39 PM
One thing to sift some truth out of all the SS numbers would be to see if they are of people who are deceased. It looks like one of his brothers is. Maybe CM is more of a criminal than anyone knew--except the FBI and MJ. :icon_e_wink: People who are in hiding for some reason often steal identity numbers from deceased people. Obtaining a dead sibling's soc. number would be a piece of cake. Also, the SID number is a System ID, assigned when he was sent to prison. It changes state to state, that is, if he has been in prison in any other state, this number would be different than the one you posted here. Some inmates have multiple SID numbers. Perhaps MJ is helping a convict to rebuild his life and bank account by utilizing his talents as a criminal, er... I mean,  :icon_albino: :smiley_abuv: chameleon (a lizard which changes color to communicate strategically with other lizards! :icon_e_surprised: :thjajaja121: ) to drive this Hoax down certain blind alleys! He could be a cop as well. I posted on that somewhere here, once. He LOOKs like Law Enforcement. Look at him! Cops can pretty much fake anything and getting 100 fake SS#s would not be a problem. They could even have lifted them from the personal prison files of "Lifers", who,  :animal0017: "won't be needing these, anymore, heh heh...". That's a serious crime, too, but so is eugenics, perjury and tampering with evidence, know what I mean, Vern? :icon_neutral: Perhaps MJ is righting some other secret wrong, here, as well, which requires someone able to handle a deep cover assignment.... :icon_cool:
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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: October 11, 2014, 03:32:24 PM
I found a site that you can search SSN's on - it appears everyone is still alive:

http://www.ssnvalidator.com/

Social Security Number:  464-51-3799 
Date of this report:  October 11, 2014 
State of Issuance:  Texas 
Approx. Date of Issuance:  1981 
Issuance Status:  According to Social Security Administration data, this SSN has been issued. 
SSA Death Masterfile:  No record as of 03-25-2014
STATUS:  THIS SSN HAS BEEN VALIDATED! 

Social Security Number:  454-51-3799
Date of this report:  October 11, 2014 
State of Issuance:  Texas 
Approx. Date of Issuance:  1980 
Issuance Status:  According to Social Security Administration data,this SSN has been issued. 
SSA Death Masterfile:  No record as of 03-25-2014
STATUS:  THIS SSN HAS BEEN VALIDATED! 

Social Security Number:  601-29-3121
Date of this report:  October 11, 2014 
State of Issuance:  Arizona 
Approx. Date of Issuance:  1992 And 1995 
Issuance Status:  According to Social Security Administration data, this SSN has been issued. 
SSA Death Masterfile:  No record as of 03-25-2014 
STATUS:  THIS SSN HAS BEEN VALIDATED!

Only 3 searches are allowed each day so I will check tomorrow on 289-78-1390, unless someone else would like to check and post the results here.

Also, @ its her which brother are you saying is dead? Murrays brother, Marlons brother?

UPDATE:

Social Security Number:  289-78-1390
Date of this report:  October 12, 2014 
State of Issuance:  Ohio 
Approx. Date of Issuance:  1982 
Issuance Status:  According to Social Security Administration data, this SSN has been issued. 
SSA Death Masterfile:  No record as of 03-25-2014
STATUS:  THIS SSN HAS BEEN VALIDATED! 


Since I was on the site I thought I would check Michael's SS# (at least the one that we were given):

Social Security Number:  303-62-5728 
Date of this report:  October 12, 2014 
State of Issuance:  Indiana 
Approx. Date of Issuance:  1969 
Issuance Status:  According to Social Security Administration data,  this SSN has been issued. 
SSA Death Masterfile:  MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON 06/25/2009 

Now before anyone freaks out, there is something missing on this entry - do you see what it is?

These words:

STATUS:  THIS SSN HAS BEEN VALIDATED! 




Love you Michael!
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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: October 19, 2014, 12:54:57 PM
I had gone through the probation report when it first came out and was puzzled by some of the things contained in it. It reads like it is about two different people, just like the autopsy report.

Here are some items from the probation report:

Recommend state prison, no probation



Not sure what the time of 11:00 means. 911 was called at approximately 12:22 PM on June 25th, 2009, Murray was arrested at 2:20 PM on Feb. 8th, 2010 and was found guilty at 2:00 PM on Nov. 7th, 2011.



This shows being arrested twice. And look at the time for 02/08/2010 - it says 10:00. Murray was arrested at 2:20 PM on 02/08/2010



He bonded out on 02/08/2010 but released on that bond 02/25/2010



5 victims (Katherine, the 3 kids and Joe?). In addition Katherine stated in the Oprah interview that it was Dr. Murray who told her that Michael was gone, he didn't make it, so she did have contact with him.



Joe hasn't responded yet to the victims statement




Name of Murray Conrad is listed and mention of CII records indicated (will talk about this later) and the odd statement 'should defendant be convicted' a DNA sample will be required. When this probation report was made out, Murray had been found guilty, therefore he was convicted so this box shouldn't have been checked.




Other records were used for personal history and no record of substance abuse (important information to remember)





Health - Murray was mentally disturbed while waiting sentencing




Gang activity - unknown




Sentencing considerations




Circumstances in mitigation - no prior record and mid base sentencing is recommended




No signatures on the report - so this isn't the real probation report?



Probation check list



These are the items checked, some words were bolded on the report. The item selected below in red refers to the no record of substance abuse mentioned in the report.

Serve 365 days in the Los Angeles County Jail

Pay a fine in the sum of $_

Make restitution to victim

Perform 180 days of community service

Obey all laws, rules, regulations and orders of the court and of the probation department

Seek and maintain training,. Schooling or employment

Support dependents as directed by the probation officer (503)

Report to the probation department within 48 hours after release from custody ascot intake office area office

Submit your person and property to search and seizure

Do not own, use or possess any deadly or dangerous weapons

Use only your true name, date of birth and address and do not give false information to any peace officer at any time

If you leave the country you shall not re-enter the United States illegally

Do not own, use, possess, buy or sell any controlled substances, or associated paraphernalia, except with valid prescription, and stay away from places where users, buyers, or sellers congregate. Don not associate with persons known by you to be controlled substance users or sellers, except in an authorized treatment program.

Provide a DNA sample and palm prints impression pursuant to PC section 296 and 296.1

Pay all of the following: restitution fine, a probation revocation restitution fine, a court security fee


If you take the bolded words this is what we have:

Fine
restitution to victim
perform 180 days
obey all laws, rules, regulations and orders of the court and of the probation department
submit your person and property to search and seizure
do not own, use or possess any deadly or dangerous weapons
pay all of the following: restitution fine, a probation revocation restitution fine, a court security fee


That isn't very harsh considering the King of Pop was dead.


Love you Michael!
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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: October 19, 2014, 07:15:37 PM
Does everyone remember the pic of the bail that was set and that Murray bonded out?

Here are two pics giving different information:



Assigned at 1513 - which is 3:13 PM Pacific time (no bail listed)
Assigned at 1438 - which is 2:38 PM Pacific time ($75,000.0 bail)



Here is a shot of being released on 02/25/2010 at 0715 which is 7:15 AM Pacific time - someone was in jail for 15 days. I'm thinking it was the one who was assigned at 1513 with no bail but later got bail and was bailed out on 02/25




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Re: Who Is Conrad R Murray?

  • on: January 18, 2015, 11:15:44 PM
I just noticed something on the probation report.

#11 says Report to the probation department within 48 hours after release from custody ascot intake office area office.

When Murray was released do we know where he went? We know he was shown with his son out in the desert which to me looked like Arizona or Nevada, not California. So when did Murray report to the intake office and was it within 48 hours?

I looked up ascot intake office and found this:

http://probation.lacounty.gov/wps/portal/probation/!ut/p/b1/04_SjzQztDAxNTM1stSP0I_KSyzLTE8syczPS8wB8aPM4t0MDAzc_Z2CjfyDXYwNPN3cnZwN_U0MjcyMgAoikRUYOLtbGng6mbhbeJmFGDr7mROn3wAHcDTApz_YywTdfkwFBOwP14_Ca4WhMboCLF4EK8DnB0K-8PPIz03Vz43KcXOz9MwMSFdUBAADSu2U/dl4/d5/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS80SmtFL1o2X0YwMDBHT0JTMk9TRDMwSUZHQkMxTzQxMjEy/

INVESTIGATIONS

Deputy Probation Officer (DPO) investigators assigned to the Central Adult Investigations (CAI) and Adult Services Court Officer Team (ASCOT) offices are tasked with reviewing criminal case-related documents and automated records, interviewing principals and interested parties in the case, and evaluating the information so that they can formulate a recommendation and produce a report for the court’s review and consideration.

http://probation.lacounty.gov/wps/portal/probation/!ut/p/b1/04_SjzQztDAxNTM1stSP0I_KSyzLTE8syczPS8wB8aPM4t0MDAzc_Z2CjfyDXYwNPN3cnZwN_U0Mg71MgAoikRUYOLtbGng6mbhbeJmFGDr7mROn3wAHcDQgpD9cPwqvEkNjdAVYnAhWgMcNfh75uan6uVE5bpaeWSYAtn-5Qg!!/dl4/d5/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS80SmtFL1o2X0YwMDBHT0JTMk9TRDMwSUZHQkMxTzQxMjYy/

JUST RELEASED FROM CUSTODY

It is important that all persons released from custody or the court, and referred to the Probation Department for supervision understand that they will need to report to a probation area office for intake and orientation instructions. The intake process for both Felony Probation supervision, Post-release Community Supervision, and Mandatory Sentences were established to provide the supervised person with clear instructions for the requirement of their supervision, assist with referrals for treatment and services, and to clarify and answer any questions that might arise concerning supervision. The goal of the intake processes is to assess the supervised person and circumstances of their case to provide the appropriate level of supervision required to provide for the safety of the community while protecting and ensuring the right so victims, and assisting the supervised person in making a successful re-entry into the community.

FELONY PROBATION

If you were just released from county jail or the court, following your sentencing, and you were ordered by the Court to report to the Probation Department for supervision, you need to report within 48 hours or within the time frame ordered by the court. When you report to the Probation area office, tell the receptionist that you were just recently released from jail, or referred from Court, and you need your orientation instructions.

Important documents to bring to your orientation
•Valid identification (driver’s license, California I.D., any identification with your name, picture, or signature.
•Verification of residence: this can be a letter or other correspondence with your name and the address where you reside, a copy of a rental agreement, or a signed letter from your landlord verifying that the address presented is your residence.
•A copy of any and all document you were given by the sentencing court. This may include a copy of the sentencing minute ordered, a referral card with your next court appointment, a referral for registration as a narcotics, gang, arson or sex offender or proof of registration of any one of these requirements, if so ordered by the Court.


If Murray was not on probation why would he need to report to an intake office?

I've never been arrested but once you are released from prison you're free, right? You are signed out at the jail/prison where you did your time, right? And if you are not on probation, there would be no reason for you to go to an intake office, right?

Love you Michael!