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Death Certificates Jackson/Murphy!
December 29, 2009, 02:34:56 PM
Hey everybody!

I don't know if it was already posted, but today they released the Death Certificate of Brittany Murphy...

I compared it with the DC of Michael.  First I noticed nothing, but then it was like "huuuh?"

1. The Headline


I compared the headlines of the DC's....Both persons died in the State Of California/Los Angeles County...but Michael's One looks selfmade, because of the second headline..

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2. The Signature

Jonathan Fielding, the Director of Health and Registrar signes these. Okay..but why is under his signature of Michaels DC a VE and why is under Brittanys DC a VD ??

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I think, that Michaels DC is a fake.... Here are the complete DC's so you can compare them:


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Re: Death Certificates Jackson/Murphy!
December 29, 2009, 02:37:12 PM
notice, there's another background... It's also weird, one State - different templates?
what these VE and VD by signature mean?
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Re: Death Certificates Jackson/Murphy!
December 29, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Quote from: "the_lost_child"
notice, there's another background... It's also weird, one State - different templates?
what these VE and VD by signature mean?


I don't know...Does somebody else know what it means?

Yes it's very weird....First I thought it's because of the quality  of the scan from MJ's DC but thoug it looks different
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Re: Death Certificates Jackson/Murphy!
December 29, 2009, 03:09:39 PM
they are clearly different. The template, muster is different... Please, someone from LA, I'm sure you can explain, are there different templates of DC in your state?
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Re: Death Certificates Jackson/Murphy!
December 29, 2009, 03:10:41 PM
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compare with Patrick Swayze's DC.  Its wierd..if anyone certificate looks fake its Brittany's.

The only wierd thing is the VD VE at the end.  Something is fishy somewhere.
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Re: Death Certificates Jackson/Murphy!
December 29, 2009, 04:08:37 PM
on brittany's the box is ticked at "manner of death" ,its ticked for "pending investigation"
on MJ's that box is not ticked, the dc for MJ's says at the bottom it was issued on july 7 so the investigation must have surely been underway by then right???so why is that box not ticked????
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Re: Death Certificates Jackson/Murphy!
December 29, 2009, 05:08:36 PM
BOTH of there DC's are saying INVALID...so there goes that theory that MJ's Death Certificate is invalid and fake :(
Remember that thread where everyone was getting excited about the DC saying INVALID...well bam there went that whole theory  :cry:
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Re: Death Certificates Jackson/Murphy!
December 30, 2009, 07:31:57 AM
MJ's DC has made me batty from day one (and I was looking for a hoax!), there are too many of them floating around on the internet and now I see the discrepancy I was looking for.Make no mistake, this is not proof that he does not have a real death certificate, nor is it proof that this one is NOT real, it just shows what is "wrong" with this particular one.

  Notice that Brittany's appears larger and spaced out. When you look at Michael's you will see what appears to to black lines around the fields as a whole like a page inside a page and it cock-eyed over to the right AND it has lost space at the bottom, not to mention the different color background. It looks placed on the background, not printed on the background.

 But to debunk theories in the past, you can see that the DCs look very similar in wording.
Cause of Death is Deferred, a cousin was the informant not a doctor and other like things that people want to pick apart.

  Here is the only thing I find weird about wording on one vs the other.  The deceased address is blocked out on Brittany's and not Michael's , that seems odd. It would seem to me that governmental offices in charge of releasing records do not make a determination on fame or request that certain information be blacked out, but rather do it by the "book" and all death certificates be treated the same.
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Re: Death Certificates Jackson/Murphy!
December 30, 2009, 05:02:04 PM
I'm still wondering why are there 3! DC's , all with different barcodes,  released?!
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Re: Death Certificates Jackson/Murphy!
December 30, 2009, 06:02:06 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Hey everybody!

I don't know if it was already posted, but today they released the Death Certificate of Brittany Murphy...

I compared it with the DC of Michael.  First I noticed nothing, but then it was like "huuuh?"

1. The Headline


I compared the headlines of the DC's....Both persons died in the State Of California/Los Angeles County...but Michael's One looks selfmade, because of the second headline..

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2. The Signature

Jonathan Fielding, the Director of Health and Registrar signes these. Okay..but why is under his signature of Michaels DC a VE and why is under Brittanys DC a VD ??

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I think, that Michaels DC is a fake.... Here are the complete DC's so you can compare them:


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It looks like they redesigned the form.  Probably because part of the text at the top starts to run in the boxes below when printed.  The top of Michael's is like the top of Patrick's
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Re: Death Certificates Jackson/Murphy!
December 30, 2009, 11:21:27 PM
wait there are 3 different DCs for Michael Joe Jackson??
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Re: Death Certificates Jackson/Murphy!
December 30, 2009, 11:36:41 PM
Brittanys and Patricks are the same (at the top). Michaels is different at the top and there is a space at the bottom missing.  :?:  :?
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Re: Death Certificates Jackson/Murphy!
December 31, 2009, 08:43:26 AM
In french when we pronounce "DC" it's like " décès" (=death)
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Re: Death Certificates Jackson/Murphy!
January 02, 2010, 07:22:24 PM
Here's an LA County Birth Certificate with the same background, and the abbreviation next to the signature (again Jonathan E. Fielding - the man is busy!) is VA.
And what about the "mo" after his signature? It's not on this Birth certificete, there's something else.


And that one (similar background) with an old document copied into the new blank document without VA, VD, VE or whatever.
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So, it looks like they copy docs into their new templates. This could mean, MJs DC was filled out on other template and they copied it to the new, and that'S why it looks selfmade. But for online purposes it'S pretty easy to fake a DC.

Just had a thought:
In all abbreviations the "V" is the first letter. So, probably it all starts with the same word.
What, if it's "verified"?

Britanny = VD = Verified Death
BC I posted above = VA = Verified Accouchment
Michael = VE = Verified Escape
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Re: Death Certificates Jackson/Murphy!
January 04, 2010, 05:14:49 PM
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wait there are 3 different DCs for Michael Joe Jackson??
Yep, there are 3 different DC's of Michael with 3 different barcodes....I just watched them in a Youtube vid, but I couldn't rememberg which video it was, sorry :(
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