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when i look at this whole thing in a hoax way i see the obvious exact same scenario thing and i see paris ( supposed ) act of cutting her wrist and michael's often comment about slitting his before he would do anything to a child.  but i don't quite know how it would fit together in the whole scheme of things past , present or future. :icon_e_confused:

I have always thought part of this hoax had to do with getting back at the media. To show them as the true vultures they are, and in all 4 cases (Michael, Paris, Whitney and Bobbi Kristina) the media performed at their best.

Even in death, Michael wasn't left alone and neither was Whitney. Articles about past drug problems and weird behavior didn't stop. And in each case with Paris and Bobbi the deaths and sordid lives of their parents were brought up once again.

I have always felt the media would fall flat on their face once Michael and Whitney came back (yes, I do think that Whitney is alive) and that Michael would have the last laugh. The media crucified him and once they were shown with egg on their face, the future for Michael could begin.

Whether the incident with Bobbi Kristina is true I don't know but it follows too closely as to what happened to her mom and the media reports haven't stopped writing about the 'sources' that have given them up to date information - contradictory information at that. Same reporting as usual.

My thoughts and prayers do go out to the Houston and Brown families, they don't need to be going through this if this is a tragic accident.

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There shouldn't be anything happening until the end of the week:

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Family Considers Taking Bobbi Kristina Brown Off Life Support At End Of This Week
Posted on Feb 16, 2015 @ 4:39AM

Bobby Brown has decided to keep his comatose daughter Bobbi Kristina Brown on life support “until the end of this week,” and continue to “pray she survives.”

A source close to the family tells RadarOnline.com exclusively that the family will hold out hope for Bobbi Kristina, who remains in a medically-induced coma more than two weeks after she was found unresponsive in her bathtub on the morning of Jan. 31.

The “Every Little Step” singer decided to set a timetable to remove her life support Friday after discussions with Whitney Houston‘s family, the source told Radar.

The former New Edition singer has struggled in the past weeks with discouraging reports from doctors about her chances for recovery, even moving her to a more advanced Atlanta hospital for treatment of brain injuries.

“We continue to request privacy in this matter,” the “On Our Own” singer said in a statement issued through his lawyer Friday night. “We thank everyone that supports Bobbi Kristina and God is hearing our prayers.”

Investigators in Roswell, Ga. continue to probe how the 21-year-old came to be unconscious in her tub that Saturday morning, and how long she wasn’t breathing before CPR efforts began.

Nick Gordon, the boyfriend she proclaimed to be her husband, has been working quietly to get her father’s permission to visit her at Emory Hospital, according to a source close to Gordon.


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News/ Bobby Brown's Lawyer Slams "False" Reports That Bobbi Kristina Brown Will Be Taken Off Life Support This Week
by Mike Vulpo  Today 3:20 PM PST
   
Bobby Brown and his family are not giving up hope!

As Bobbi Kristina Brown begins her third week in a Georgia hospital, those closest to her are remaining positive about a recovery.

In fact, despite reports that Whitney Houston's daughter will be taken off life support this week, Brown's attorney Christopher Brown says those rumors are simply not true.

Those are "false stories," he revealed to E! News Monday morning before assuring the media that there is "nothing happening."


Since Bobbi Kristina was hospitalized on Jan. 31 after being found facedown in a bathtub full of water at her home, there have been a variety of reports about her progress or lack thereof.

Some insist the 21-year-old is showing improvement while others caution that doctors have not been the most optimistic. Regardless of all the stories out in the media, Bobby wants people to focus on praying for a recovery.

"We continue to request privacy in this matter," he said in a statement to E! News just this past Friday. "We thank everyone that supports Bobbi Kristina and God is healing our prayers."

One of the many fans around the world hoping for a recovery is Kevin Costner.

Three years after the 60-year-old actor gave a touching eulogy at the funeral of Houston, Costner says he sincerely hopes Bobbi Kristina's fate isn't nearly as tragic.

"My thoughts are probably similar to everyone, which is obviously, the similarities, what's going on, the worry that this might have happened again," he told Nightline. "Where is this little girl going to go when you lose your mother?"

He added, "I hope that God opens her eyes and lets her breathe and lets her brain work, and she gets a second chance."


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The ventilator has been removed and replaced with a tracheostomy tube.

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Removed from ventilator, Bobbi Kristina Brown's condition unchanged -source
Reuters
‎February‎ ‎19‎, ‎2015

(Reuters) - Doctors have taken Bobbi Kristina Brown, daughter of late singer Whitney Houston, off the ventilator that has helped her breathe since she was found unresponsive in a bathtub last month, but no decisions have been made to take her off life support, a family source said on Thursday.

The source, who declined to be identified, said Brown's overall condition has not changed. Removing the breathing tube was a standard course of practise to avoid infection, the source said.

Family members have said Brown, 21, the only child of singers Bobby Brown and Houston, is fighting for her life at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta after she was discovered on Jan. 31 face down and unresponsive in a bathtub in her suburban home.

They have said little about the aspiring singer's treatment or medical prognosis, and Bobby Brown has asked for privacy.

Police in Roswell, Georgia, are treating the case as a criminal investigation and have been questioning people about the circumstances leading up to Brown being found in the tub.

Brown's famous mother, a six-time Grammy Award winner and actress who battled substance abuse, drowned in a hotel bathtub in Beverly Hills, California, on Feb. 11, 2012. Authorities said cocaine use and heart disease contributed to Houston's death at age 48.

(Reporting by Colleen Jenkins; Editing by Mohammad Zargham)



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Source: Whitney Houston's ailing daughter has tracheostomy

Associated Press
JONATHAN LANDRUM Jr.
‎February‎ ‎19‎, ‎2015

ATLANTA (AP) — Doctors have replaced Bobbi Kristina Brown's breathing tube with a tube usually used for patients who need to be on a ventilator for an extended period, a person close to the family said Thursday.

The 21-year-old's breathing tube was replaced with a tracheostomy tube, the person, who is not authorized to speak on Brown's condition, told The Associated Press. A tracheostomy, which involves cutting into a patient's neck, is often performed on patients who need to be on a ventilator for an extended period.

The surgery comes nearly three weeks after Whitney Houston's daughter was found face-down and unresponsive in a bathtub of her Georgia home.

Brown's family has said she's "fighting for her life" at Emory University Hospital. A police investigation is ongoing and few details on her condition have been released.

Bobbi Kristina is the only daughter of singers Bobby Brown and Houston.

Houston was found face-down and unresponsive in about a foot of water in a bathtub in the Beverly Hilton hotel on Feb. 11, 2012, just before the Grammys. She later died, and authorities concluded she had accidentally drowned. Investigators found a dozen prescription-drug bottles in the suite and listed heart disease and cocaine use as contributors to her death.

Bobbi Kristina's partner Nick Gordon said in a statement through his lawyers Wednesday night that he "desperately" wants to see her. The 25-year-old Gordon said he is looking for permission from Bobbi Kristina's family to visit her in the hospital.

Gordon said he has not tried to return to the hospital and risk a public confrontation.

Bobby Brown's lawyer hasn't responded to numerous requests seeking comment.

Houston brought Gordon into her household as an orphan at the age of 12, raising him and her daughter after divorcing Bobby Brown in 2007.

Relations between Gordon and some other family members soured last year: He remains subject to a protective order barring him from being within 200 feet of Bobbi Kristina's aunt, Patricia Houston.

Bobbi Kristina became the sole inheritor of her mother's estate when she died in 2012, and shortly thereafter, she and Gordon went public with their romantic relationship.

Bobby Brown says his daughter isn't and never has been married to Gordon.

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Latest developments state that Bobbi Kristina was using cocaine prior to the accident and that Nick is still being barred from visiting her.

After doing some searching online about Bobbi and drug use I found an article from 2011 stating that Whitney was cancelling Bobbi's 18th birthday party and taking back a Lexus convertible. Lexus, huh?

Nick and Bobbi Kristina were involved in a car accident on Dec. 30th, 2014. The car that Nick was driving was a 2010 Lexus. The report doesn't say if it was a convertible or not (I have the VIN # so I can look online to make sure). Was that 2010 Lexus the same as the Lexus that Whitney supposedly cancelled? If so, Whitney didn't cancel it.

IF Bobbi Kristina is really ok, has the last couple of years been an intro to what we have now? If not, this family is really messed up.

Now on to Nick. I was reading about Nick being barred from the hospital and there is one interesting piece from the following article that stood out to me because of how it was worded.

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Bobbi Kristina Brown: Nick Gordon 'Consistently Prohibited' from Visiting His Partner by Bobby Brown, Say Attorneys
By SHAHRIAR RAHMANZADEH and EMILY SHAPIRO
2 hours ago

 Good Morning America

"To address the continued and never ending media requests for comment about Mr. Gordon’s requests to visit Bobbi Kristina, let me be very clear, Mr. Gordon was offered an opportunity to potentially visit Bobbi Kristina and he declined to meet the terms of any possible visit," said Christopher Brown of Brown & Rosen LLC, legal counsel for Bobby Brown.

The statement did not elaborate on what those visitation terms were, but added, "We are only concerned with individuals that can help Bobbi Kristina and bring resolution to this investigation. Obviously Mr. Gordon is not as desperate to visit Bobbi Kristina as he wants the world to believe.”


Bring resolution? Any individual person visiting Bobbi Kristina would not be bringing resolution to the investigation. Anyone knowing anything should be talking to the police, not visiting Bobbi Kristina. So in essence, Nick Gordon isn’t visiting because he has nothing to do with the investigation even though we have been made to believe that there is a criminal investigation going on with Nick?

If this is true about Bobbi, why isn't the family keeping still? Why all of the interviews, why all of the different stories coming out? Why is there no update from a reputable source such as the police? If there really truly is a criminal investigation, why not ask the public for help in locating the 'person who may have left' the home of Bobbi and Kristina? Nick and Lomas would know if there was anyone else at the home at the time of the incident. And like I have asked before. What about the cable guy who was there and who found Bobbi with Lomas??? Why has the media not interviewed this guy?


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Clearer version of why Bobby Brown isn't allowing Nick to visit.

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Bobby Brown Claims Nick Gordon Isn't Explaining What Happened to Bobbi Kristina Brown in New Statement
Us Weekly
8 hours ago

The Brown family believes that Nick Gordon is holding back information. In a new statement released by Bobby Brown's lawyer on Sunday, Feb. 22, the R&B singer claims that Gordon has yet to explain what happened to his girlfriend Bobbi Kristina Brown before her hospitalization.

"Due to Mr. Gordon's failure to place in tangible form his understanding of the events that lead to the hospitalization of Bobbi Kristina, there is no reason for any additional discussion with him. It appears that Mr. Gordon did not want his understanding of the facts to be subject to the truthful examination of various experts or Bobby Brown himself," Christopher Brown of Brown & Rosen LLC told Us Weekly in a statement.

"Mr. Gordon has every right to remain silent and not share his version of the events with Bobby Brown. We are only concerned with individuals that can help Bobbi Kristina and bring resolution to this investigation. Obviously Mr. Gordon is not as desperate to visit Bobbi Kristina as he wants the world to believe," the statement continued. "At least not desperate enough to inform Bobby Brown, in writing, what happened to Bobbi Kristina."

Bobby Brown added: "We continue to request privacy in this matter. We thank everyone that supports Bobbi Kristina and God is hearing our prayers."

That same day, Gordon posted an Instagram photo of his new Bobbi Kristina arm tattoo. "Healing just fine like my baby," he wrote.


So Bobby Brown wants Nick Gordon to tell him what happened and since Nick won't he isn't allowed to see Bobbi Kristina. Again, if a person knows something they go to the police! And do you think Nick would be allowed to see Bobbi if Nick said he tried to kill her? No.

1. If the police had an ounce of evidence that Nick was involved in any way he would have already been arrested (warrant could be issued if Nick wouldn't come in)

2. Since we have been told that Bobbi took drugs prior to the incident why is this not being ruled an accident? Why is it being looked at as a criminal investigation?

3. Remember, this was a criminal investigation right from the start. That info came straight from the police spokeswoman.


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For the police to make a lawful arrest, the arresting officer(s) must have either (1) probable cause to arrest, or (2) a valid arrest warrant.

A valid arrest warrant is one

1.containing an adequate showing of probable cause
2.issued by a neutral and detached magistrate
3.issued on the basis of a police affidavit that does not contain known or reckless falsehoods
4.particularly describing the person to be seized

These minimum requirements stem from the language contained in the Fourth Amendment. Federal statute and most jurisdictions mandate the issuance of an arrest warrant for the arrest of individuals for misdemeanors that were not committed within the view of a police officer.
 
However, as long as police have the necessary probable cause, a warrant is usually not needed to arrest someone suspected of a felony in a public place; these laws vary from state to state.[10] In a non-emergency situation, an arrest of an individual in their home requires an arrest warrant.

Adequate showing of probable cause[edit]

Probable cause will be founded on either direct observations by the police officer, or on hearsay information provided by others to the police. The information brought by the police to the neutral and detached magistrate must establish that—considering the police officer's experience and training—the officer knows facts, either through personal observation or through hearsay information that would suggest to a reasonable prudent person that the individual named in the warrant had committed or was committing a crime.

From 1964 to 1983, a constitutionally adequate affidavit comprised exclusively or primarily of hearsay information had to have contained information suggesting to the examining magistrate that (1) the hearsay declarant supplying the information to the police was a credible person, and (2) that the hearsay declarant had a strong basis of knowledge for the alleged facts.[11] Since 1983, a constitutionally sufficient affidavit must support a conclusion by a reviewing magistrate that the "totality of the circumstances" suggest that there is a fair probability that the facts relied on by the police to find probable cause to arrest are in fact valid; the magistrate will balance “the relative weights of all the various indicia of reliability (and unreliability) attending an informant's tip.”[12]

Neutral and detached magistrate[edit]

The individual issuing the arrest warrant need not be a judge or an attorney, but must be both capable of determining whether probable cause exists as well as be a neutral and detached official. While arrest warrants are typically issued by courts, they may also be issued by one of the chambers of the United States Congress or other legislatures (via the call of the house motion) and other political entities.

No known or reckless falsehoods[edit]

A warrant will be held invalid if the defendant challenging the arrest warrant can show, by a preponderance of the evidence, that specific parts of the affidavit submitted by the police are false; that the police either knowingly made them or made them with reckless disregard as to their truth or falsity; and that, excluding the false statements, the remaining portion of the affidavit would not have by itself established probable cause to arrest the defendant.[13]

Description of arrestee[edit]

The arrest warrant must, to comply with the Fourth Amendment, "particularly describe" the person to be seized. If the arrest warrant does not contain such a description, it is invalid—even if the affidavit submitted by the police or the warrant application contained this requisite information.[14]


So either way Nick Gordon could be arrested whether a misdemeanors or felony.


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Interesting.

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Bobbi Kristina Brown's Boyfriend Nick Gordon Drops Temporary Restraining Order Against Police to Protect Home Security Footage -- Details
Us Weekly
2 hours ago

The plot thickens. Bobbi Kristina Brown’s boyfriend Nick Gordon, who is under criminal investigation following Brown’s Jan. 31 hospitalization, had filed for a temporary restraining to keep authorities from attaining a search warrant to view footage on his Dropcam, a personal, in-home security camera, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports. According to documents obtained by the site, the restraining order also sought to keep the company which owns Dropcam, Nest Labs, from complying with the search warrant. After Gordon’s lawyers Joe S. Habachy and Randall M. Kessler filed the documents, however, a new statement to Us Weekly reveals that Gordon has since changed his mind, in an effort to comply with the police investigation.

“To protect his client's interests, Mr. Habachy filed the Temporary Restraining Order. However, Mr. Gordon has since elected to dismiss the claim in an effort to help Roswell PD speed up their investigation,” the statement to Us reads.

In the initial filing, Gordon’s lawyer claimed that “The Search Warrant violates the Fourth Amendment in that it is overly broad and seeks private data ‘without limitation,’ and fails to narrowly limit the scope of the data sought by date or other characteristics.” The decision to seek a temporary restraining order came after Gordon received notice from Nest Labs that it had “received ‘legal process’ for data and documents related to the account and that it intended to comply.”


As previously reported, Gordon, 19, has been banned by the Brown family and unable to visit Bobbi in the hospital, where she’s been in an induced coma for almost a month. In a statement released to Us, Bobby Brown’s lawyers denied the two were ever married. "We are currently investigating the events that led to the hospitalization of Bobbi Kristina," Christopher Brown of Brown & Rosen LLC said in a statement on Feb. 3. "To correct earlier reports, Bobbi Kristina is not and has never been married to Nick Gordon."

Since her hospitalization, Gordon’s lawyers claim he’s been doing everything in his power to see Bobbi and that he continues to comply with the ongoing investigation.


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February 25, 2015

The petition for a TRO was filed Monday by Gordon’s attorney “to protect his interests. However Mr. Gordon has since elected to dismiss the claim in an effort to help Roswell PD speed up their investigation. ”

Documents filed in Fulton County Superior Court sought to keep the Roswell Police Department from carrying out a search warrant involving a security camera. The filing also seeks to stop the company Nest from complying with the warrant, issued on or about Feb. 12, documents show.

“The Search Warrant violates the Fourth Amendment in that it is overly broad and seeks private data ‘without limitation,’ and fails to narrowly limit the scope of the data sought by date or other characteristics,” court documents say.

According to court documents:

“Plaintiff, Nicholas Gordon, is a customer of Nest Labs, (which) owns and operates a ‘dropcam’ web-based security company.

“On February 12, 2015, Nest notified via email its customer, Nicholas Gordon …that it had received ‘legal process’ for data and documents related to the account and that it intended to comply.”

The issue is an unjust breach of privacy, the documents say:

“Privacy, in the context of stored information includes the right to control how stored information is communicated and prevent its abuse. lt is more than just confidentiality of data. The Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution implicitly governs in its very core that Americans have a reasonable expectation of privacy which inherently extends to the right to control their own data and access thereto.”

Documents go on to say “there is an insufficient link between the crime alleged in the Search Warrant, specifically ‘possession of a controlled substance.'”



I found this out on Nest Labs, Google and DropCam:

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Google Nest Labs' Acquisition Of Dropcam Scares The Heck Out Of Me

 Late last week, news broke that Google GOOGL +1.6% Inc.’s Nest Labs would be buying upstart Dropcam in a $555M cash deal. For those unfamiliar with the companies, Google purchased Nest Labs earlier this year for approximately $3.2B. Nest currently builds intelligent home thermostats and smoke and carbon monoxide detectors, but other home automation products are likely on the horizon.

To this point, Google GOOGL +1.6% has allowed Nest Labs to operate as its own brand and the company continues to grow at a steady clip. Dropcam is a provider of easy-to-use and configure Wi-Fi webcams and trackers, and cloud-based storage. Dropcam owners can check in on their connected cameras from virtually anywhere, and should the user choose, the video feed can be stored in Dropcam’s cloud (which leverages Amazon’s Web Services), and be viewed later.

I really dig Nest’s products and have used a number of video monitoring devices similar to Dropcam’s (though I haven’t tried an actual Dropcam just yet).  The conveniences products like these offer are undeniable; being able to remotely control your home’s heating/cooling system and monitor video and audio feeds can not only save you money, but they offer a bit of peace of mind as well. On a recent vacation, I checked in on my webcams constantly to make sure my house and pets were OK and that our house/pet sitter was doing everything we asked. It was great.

But there’s a problem with all of this—at least in my opinion. Assuming the deal is approved and Google ultimately ends up owning Dropcam, Google will technically have access to a wealth of data about what goes on in our homes.  Think about this for a moment. If you own a PC and use Google for search (or use Chrome as your browser, GMAIL, etc.), and also own an Android-based device, a Nest product, and a Dropcam, the data collected by all of these pieces of technology can reveal virtually everything about you. Google would know what sites you visit and what you’ve searched for, where you are at any given time (assuming you’re carrying your smartphone), your contacts, Wi-Fi passwords, the temperature you like to keep in your house, and the list goes on and on. Heck, technically speaking, Google could theoretically even listen in on activities in your home, not to mention check out video feeds at will. If you’ve also got a few Dropcam Tabs installed, they’d even be able to tell when certain doors and windows are opened, or where you’ve stashed something. That’s scary if you ask me. Really scary.


I'm trying to find the actual search warrant/restraining order, but no luck.


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Bobbi Kristina Brown Remains In a Coma Despite Media Reports
ETonline
By Rosalyn Oshmyansky
1 hour ago

While multiple outlets are reporting that Bobbi Kristina Brown has been taken out of her coma, ET has learned that these headlines are not true.

"She is still in a coma, still critical," family sources tell ET.

Just last week, ET reported exclusively that doctors were reducing Bobbi Kristina's medication in an attempt to bring her out of the coma. A source said that she was making improvements with stable vital signs and that her organs are not failing. However at this time, the 21-year-old remains in a coma and on life support as of Wednesday.

It's been over three weeks since the daughter of Bobby Brown and the late Whitney Houston was placed in a medically induced coma and on life support since being found unresponsive in a bathtub and rushed to a hospital in Rosewell, Ga. on Jan. 31.

Legally, the final decision to take Bobbi Kristina off of a ventilator is up to her father Bobby.

Dr. Julian Bragg, a neurologist at Midtown Neurology in Atlanta, who is not one of Bobbi Kristina's doctors, spoke to ET about the road ahead should Bobbi Kristina regain consciousness.

"After spending more than two weeks in a medically induced coma, or for any cause, the body goes through a number of changes," Dr. Braff says. "There is a significant decrease in muscle strength both in terms of moving the limbs and in terms of breathing. Often people require extensive strengthening not only in being able to sit, stand and move around, but even simpler things like swallowing and breathing."
The family continues to hold on to hope for Bobbi Kristina's recovery.


Got a question. Was there a search warrant for the surveillance tape at Carolwood or was it just turned over to the police?


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