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8/5/2014 12:20 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

EXCLUSIVE



Michael Jackson had code words and signals that he used with a boy he allegedly molested to describe various sex acts ... including "duck butter."

James Safechuck -- now 36 -- claims in his lawsuit against the MJ Estate ... the singer started abusing him when he was 10 ... when he traveled with Michael to Paris for the "Bad" tour in 1988.

In new court docs -- obtained by TMZ -- Safechuck says Michael taught him to use code words ... referring to his erection as "bright light, brick city" ... and calling semen, "duck butter."

Safechuck claims Jackson also used secret signals -- when they would hold hands, Michael would scratch the inside of James' hand with a finger ... to show he wanted to have sex.

Safechuck says MJ wanted a full-blown relationship with him ... to the point he performed a secret wedding ceremony with the boy with wedding ring and a marriage certificate.

He also describes how Michael would take him to various homes -- including a place called "The Hideout" in Century City -- where they would drink sweet, pink wine and watch porn ... including movies of children masturbating.

Safechuck says at one point ... he questioned his own sexuality -- because he also had a crush on Sheryl Crow, who was one of Jackson's backup singers. He says Michael found out and became jealous ... showing him unflattering pics of Crow without makeup.

Safechuck says the abuse stopped entirely when he reached puberty.

Howard Weitzman, attorney for the MJ Estate, tells TMZ the whole lawsuit should be scrapped because it was filed more than 20 years after the incidents supposedly happened ... and says Safechuck "has given sworn testimony that Michael never did anything inappropriate to him."

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Can I say that? I feel sick

Too absurd..... 
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MJ  code words = clues?
thought him to use code words = us he teaches us
Safechuk= safe chuks as a safe throw? to what?
bright light, brick city= Las Vegas, or...??? help
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Thank you for sharing this with us. I'm with DreamsComeTrue - sounds rather hoaxy.

If this happened more than 20 years ago, and the boy has already stated before that nothing has happened, then why now? Money? I sincerely don't believe this happened but maybe he just thinks that it's an easy target. Show me that marriage certificate!!!
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I'm proud to be a child of God and a member of MJ's Army of L.O.V.E.
 
"Press coverage of my life is like [watching] a fictitious movie...like watching science fiction. It's not true." ~Michael Jackson (2005)

"You should not believe everything you read. You are missing the most important revelations". Craig Harvey 3-15-2012

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Wade's accusations are way more disgusting than these. He is also asking for an outrageous sum of 1.62 billion.  Something does seem strange in all of this. The part about Ms Crow minus her make up  was just bizarre not to mention that a pre-pubescent child having the ability to know his sexual orientation and to also question it just adds ? in my mind.

Meanwhile there is silence from Michael's family.
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"This" is ridiculous......just like the story about M.J. beating bubbles was lol.... and that according to Jane Godall  :icon_geek:  :icon_rolleyes: !!!!
I really have to wonder.......who the f are all this people anyway  :icon_e_confused:  :thjajaja121: ??
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I have a new secret code for that guy :

when i punch your face, it mean you gotta stop lying.

Very simple code !

PS : his "secret" code is nothing new... "Duck butter" was already known and "scratching someone's hand for sex" is not something "new" (or am i the only girl to know it  :icon_lol:)
Those stuff were easy to re-use.

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^^^ no  :icon_redface: it's well known here in Aus too.
I wonder where these two are hiding out. The fans might forget to be loving and kind if  they get a hold of them.
Last Edit: August 07, 2014, 07:56:18 PM by RK
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Well if they've all sworn under oath 20 yrs ago that MJ did nothing to them, the  surely they would have committed purgery if they are now saying he did do things to them.  So they should all be locked up and the key thrown away.
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I'M A LOVER, NOT A FIGHTER

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I wonder where these two are hiding out. The fans might forget to be loving and kind if  they get a hold of them.

This could be one of many reasons why a victim of a worldwide superstar kept quiet for so long.
I know we don"t want to think about it, but if you are a reasonable person, you do understand what I'm saying.
If you don't agree that's okay, but this is what I'm feeling about these kind of cases.
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And no, I'm NOT a hater and I love Michael for many many years but I simply don't dismiss these accusations in advance, because I wasn't there and neither were any of us.
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And no, I'm NOT a hater and I love Michael for many many years but I simply don't dismiss these accusations in advance, because I wasn't there and neither were any of us.

No,you are not a hater but you are saying that MJ DID abuse those guys and they were afraid to denounce it due to MJ's fans.
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No, what I'm saying is that, yes, I do find it HARD to believe that Michael did this, but no, I'm not dismissing the accusations in advance. Because that would be an insult to all victims of abuse as well (and I also do believe Michael himself was a victim of sexual abuse).
There are many arguments that the timing of these accusations are highly suspicious and yes, they are, but one could also say so of the timing of Michael's marriage with LMP. I try to look at all happenings and circumstances with objective eyes, even if the outcome might be very hurtful.
If you choose not to do so, I'm okay with that as well. And if you have any inside *cough* information, then share it please, it's getting pretty monotonously. Maybe it will help change my view on a lot of things.
Last Edit: August 09, 2014, 12:12:21 PM by Do
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"Three passions, simple but overwhelmingly strong, have governed my life: the longing for love, the search for knowledge, and unbearable pity for the suffering of mankind."
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Sorry I don't buy any of the allegations. Not saying im blind, but no I just don't see it. First of all, this so called "Safechuck" VOLUNTARILY came forward and defended MJ publically. Nobody forced or asked him to come forward in 2005. Why make it a point to think so highly of a person that you have to come forward and say how good of a man Mike was? Nobody asked him anything. So why volunteer a lie? Why change it now? If he stayed silent all these years because of MJ being a superstar, why didn't he just keep quiet in 2005? Nobody asked his opinion. What was his motive for defending him then? But why say something now? Why not say it in 2009,2010,2011,2012,2013?

I think hes a liar. Him and Robson both. I have my own opinions of what I think is REALLY going on. But I will keep it to myself.
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Sorry I don't buy any of the allegations. Not saying im blind, but no I just don't see it. First of all, this so called "Safechuck" VOLUNTARILY came forward and defended MJ publically. Nobody forced or asked him to come forward in 2005. Why make it a point to think so highly of a person that you have to come forward and say how good of a man Mike was? Nobody asked him anything. So why volunteer a lie? Why change it now? If he stayed silent all these years because of MJ being a superstar, why didn't he just keep quiet in 2005? Nobody asked his opinion. What was his motive for defending him then? But why say something now? Why not say it in 2009,2010,2011,2012,2013?

I think hes a liar. Him and Robson both. I have my own opinions of what I think is REALLY going on. But I will keep it to myself.

Please do share your opinion, I'm always willing to view things from a different perspective. It sure is very well possible that a conspiracy, as Michael told us many times, is this far-reachting.

Btw, I can't seem to find Safechuck's testimony in the trial transcripts of 2005. He wasn't a witness, was he?
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