New pic of Paris and Grace?

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New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 09:59:55 AM
It looks like a recent pic to me..

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I guess the reports that she was fired wasnt true
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 10:11:20 AM
If I am remembering correctly I think that Katherine brought her back on board after the "death". I remember this being a subject that the news mentioned when they were talking about Katherine had called Grace to ask her "where the money was hidden" since apparently MJ didn't like to use banks and hid large amounts of cash in unexpected areas of his home.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 11:21:17 AM
What stood out to me was the way they make a V sign. Do you guys remember Murray's V sign when he was going to the court? It's the same.  ;)
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 01:47:28 PM
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What stood out to me was the way they make a V sign. Do you guys remember Murray's V sign when he was going to the court? It's the same.  ;)

PureLove do you have a chance to provide the link with Murray's V sign picture? I didn't see it.

Paris looks so cute.  :D  I love Michael's kids, they are so beautiful!  :D
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 03:42:14 PM
looks like Paris got the shape of her fingers from her Daddy.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 03:45:19 PM
Wow i see Michaels eyes in this photo of her.  :)
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 05:09:56 PM
And vitiligo on her fingers  :?:  :shock:
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 05:16:29 PM
It looks like a webcam photo....who's the person that they communicate allot with?
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 05:20:47 PM
Thank you for sharing this photo with us. The kids are growing before our eyes... :)

This picture looks too recent to be right after June 25, 2009. JMO.

The "V" stood out to me too. The other thing that stood out was the way Paris was wearing her hair over her eye and face, sort of like Michael used to. Blessings.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 07:52:18 PM
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It looks like a webcam photo....who's the person that they communicate allot with?
Exactly! 8-)  And who would have leaked this photo? Again 8-) maybe!
I'm glad Grace is back in their lives. She really does love the kids and she's the only mother they've known.

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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 08:08:53 PM


I do not know, but I think the girl in that picture looks different

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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 08:39:04 PM
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What stood out to me was the way they make a V sign. Do you guys remember Murray's V sign when he was going to the court? It's the same.  ;)

PureLove do you have a chance to provide the link with Murray's V sign picture? I didn't see it.

Here.  ;)

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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 08:40:53 PM
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And vitiligo on her fingers  :?:  :shock:

That's not Vitiligo. It looks like her fingers or hand is burnt.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 08:47:08 PM
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I do not know, but I think the girl in that picture looks different


did paris have bangs when we saw her last i can't remember
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 09:58:28 PM
@ kdkennedy74; there was reports in the media that she was fired again sometime in early 2010.

@ mac5k; it was said that she has Lupus, so there is a possibility that she has some type of Vitiligo. not as bad as MJ's of course. and if u look at pictures of her when the neckline of her shirt is low, you can see spots of discoloration on her chest area as well.

The picture looks like it could have been taken months ago to me, by the way
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 10:53:09 PM
I really don't think any of these people are giving the "V" sign.  They are simply giving the Peace sign, which A LOT of Americans do all of the time.  In no way do I think this "sign" is hoax-related.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 10:57:31 PM
Does anyone know when this photo was taken or where it came from?  Katherine definitely brought Grace back into the picture after Michael's "death", but she was supposedly dismissed because of a run-in with Paris.  How ironic that this photo is of the two of them seemingly very happy.  Paris has been sporting shorter locks since shortly after Michael's "death", but her bang length has varied some.  Personally I think this photo is a little older, from before Grace was supposedly dismissed.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 11:08:26 PM
Looks recent to me.[attachment=0:1hb8ie5f]gma pp.jpg[/attachment:1hb8ie5f]
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 11:11:52 PM
Paris's hair looks lighter in the pic with Grace than in the recent pic with Blanket.  Not that that really means much though, since she could have lightened her hair again recently.  Although I actually feel like I've seen this photo before.  I've definitely seen a pic of Grace wearing that bandana before.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 30, 2011, 11:12:41 PM
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Looks recent to me.[attachment=0:1hlz6ym1]gma pp.jpg[/attachment:1hlz6ym1]


oh nooooo here i go again. reflections in the tv set behind paris. :shock:
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 31, 2011, 03:45:47 AM
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looks like Paris got the shape of her fingers from her Daddy.


Please look at the fingers again ! All is possible, but they look like Michaels fingers   :o  We see the top of the hand and that looks like Michaels fingers ! It is so light that you can see not very much, but that are not Paris fingers to me.

lol....

@suspicious mind , the reflexion !!! :o  :o  
So much is possible with photoshop...i am confused.

And yes i think that Grace has vitiligo and i heard of Lupus. In the last pics we saw from December 2009 when she took the kids from the karate, she has the spots at her neck and her hands. She dosen't look good, like she has swollen fingers. Maybee she was ill and needed a break.

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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 31, 2011, 04:05:19 AM
Here is Paris when she made the V Sign. She often has lacked fingernails.

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/ ... 00-595.jpg

I am not if we see her fingers or Michaels  :shock:
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 31, 2011, 01:37:55 PM
You people are unbelieveable.  LMAO.
And it took almost 20 posts for someone to mention Michael being in disguise as Grace.  U guys are slipping
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 31, 2011, 01:52:27 PM
I think its safe to say those are PARIS's fingers. Not Michaels.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 31, 2011, 03:16:42 PM
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@ mac5k; it was said that she has Lupus, so there is a possibility that she has some type of Vitiligo. not as bad as MJ's of course. and if u look at pictures of her when the neckline of her shirt is low, you can see spots of discoloration on her chest area as well.


Just to make it clear, Vitiligo doesn't have any type. Lupus and Vitiligo are two different diseases. And the way they look is very different. I have Vitiligo since I was 4. That's the reason why I can talk certain about it. And Grace's is not Vitiligo.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 31, 2011, 03:26:22 PM
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Looks recent to me.[attachment=0:32zej2lh]gma pp.jpg[/attachment:32zej2lh]


oh nooooo here i go again. reflections in the tv set behind paris. :shock:
:shock:  :shock:  :shock:  do i see MJ?
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 31, 2011, 06:07:45 PM
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You people are unbelieveable.  LMAO.
And it took almost 20 posts for someone to mention Michael being in disguise as Grace.  U guys are slipping
:lol: I was thinking that MJ was in disguise as Grace.  I kept looking at the eyebrows and the cheek bones.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 31, 2011, 06:09:49 PM
What's this Grace still doing around his children after talking about Michael in such a horrible way?
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 31, 2011, 06:19:35 PM
^^
http://www.popcrunch.com/michael-jackso ... interview/

Michael Jackson’s nanny, Grace Rwaramba, has denied a report claiming she “routinely” pumped the late singer’s stomach after he ingested a dangerous amount of prescription drugs.

In fact, Grace says she has the utmost respect for her former employer — who was also her friend — and she is insistent that she never divulged any details of her nearly 20 year employment with the pop star to a London tabloid.

“Michael Jackson was an exceptional Human Being. He was gifted, deeply compassionate and brought joy to the lives of so many. He loved his family dearly, and above all, his beautiful children,” Rwaramba says in a new statement posted on intent.com.

“In addition to being my employer over the past 17 years and entrusting the care of his beloved children to me, he was my dear friend. While our friendship had challenges, as do all friendships, he was loyal to the end. I cherish and honor his memory,” the statement continued.

She added, “I am shocked, hurt and deeply saddened by recent statements the press has attributed to me, in particular, the outrageous and patently false claim that I ‘routinely pumped his stomach after he had ingested a dangerous combination of drugs.’ I don’t even know how to pump a stomach!! In addition, I have never spoken to the Times Online, the original source of the story that has now been picked up worldwide. The statements attributed to me confirm the worst in human tendencies to sensationalize tragedy and smear reputations for profit.”

“I convey my heartfelt and deepest condolences to Prince, Paris, Blanket and the entire Jackson family. The pain and sorrow I feel over the loss of Michael pales in comparison to what has been taken from them forever,” Grace concluded.


and I doubt Mj is  wearing a Grace costume o_O

I do wonder who is leaking these pics though,,,and who they always chat with online with??
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 31, 2011, 06:30:39 PM
This woman sold Michael to a tabloid (without knowing) and then of course, denied.
I guess i don't have to remind you all the upsetting things she said, because it's painful to hear someone close talking the way she did about Michael. And then, let's not forget Paris telling to Katherine: "We don't like her and we don't want her around."
Says everything.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 31, 2011, 07:07:17 PM
"let's not forget Paris telling to Katherine: "We don't like her and we don't want her around."

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^^ Obviously thats not the case, since she is recently seen goofing around with Paris on her laptop, and both looking quite happy together !!

There was no interview of her trash talking Michael !! They did the same thing to Debbie after Michael "died" They wrote an article abt her claiming she said the kids wasnt his and etc.look it up !! and we all know thats not true and a lie !! Tabloid junk is to not be taken seriously come on guys -__- ,,,, cant believe everything u read. i guess i have to remind u that as well...
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 31, 2011, 07:12:39 PM
who says it's real? who says it's recent? Yes, i don't believe tabloids either , that's why i don't like TMZ's "clues".
You could be right, i could be right.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 31, 2011, 08:24:33 PM
I did actually see an interview of Grace talking negatively about Michael saying he got angry when she started getting close with the kids, and would try to keep the kids away from her, making him out to be controlling and insensitive. Still I think she is in on the hoax, and has her role to play. MJ wouldn't have kept her on for 17 years if he didn't approve of her. There's another hoax side to every officially presented story.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: March 31, 2011, 08:39:42 PM
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I did actually see an interview of Grace talking negatively about Michael saying he got angry when she started getting close with the kids, and would try to keep the kids away from her, making him out to be controlling and insensitive. Still I think she is in on the hoax, and has her role to play. MJ wouldn't have kept her on for 17 years if he didn't approve of her. There's another hoax side to every officially presented story.

I heard that Grace (who has had delusions of marrying Michael from the get-go) used to hint about "leaking things" to the press if he did not hire her back.  Of course, who knows...there is so much stuff out there, and seeing things in the "hoax" light, she could have been very well in on everything.  

This is so darn complicated- and having to second guess everything gets exhausting at times.  But hey, I'm used to it now.  ;)
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 01, 2011, 02:14:43 AM
It's like learning a whole new language. Nothing straightforward about anything. Well at least we all have each other for support!
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 01, 2011, 05:35:06 PM
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You people are unbelieveable.  LMAO.
And it took almost 20 posts for someone to mention Michael being in disguise as Grace.  U guys are slipping
:lol: I was thinking that MJ was in disguise as Grace.  I kept looking at the eyebrows and the cheek bones.

Aha I knew this was going to come. :lol:
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 01, 2011, 06:06:34 PM
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You people are unbelieveable.  LMAO.
And it took almost 20 posts for someone to mention Michael being in disguise as Grace.  U guys are slipping
:lol: I was thinking that MJ was in disguise as Grace.  I kept looking at the eyebrows and the cheek bones.

Aha I knew this was going to come. :lol:


Does it mean that everytime we see someone, it is Michael in disguise?? Come on a little common sense. That is not Michael in disguise. I think this picture is not a recent picture. It must have been when she was their nanny..
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 01, 2011, 06:08:27 PM
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You people are unbelieveable.  LMAO.
And it took almost 20 posts for someone to mention Michael being in disguise as Grace.  U guys are slipping
:lol: I was thinking that MJ was in disguise as Grace.  I kept looking at the eyebrows and the cheek bones.

Aha I knew this was going to come. :lol:


Does it mean that everytime we see someone, it is Michael in disguise?? Come on a little common sense. That is not Michael in disguise. I think this picture is not a recent picture. It must have been when she was their nanny..

Personally I only believe that Michael was the hat man at the memorial and that's all. No other disguises.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 01, 2011, 07:33:22 PM
who says it's real? who says it's recent? Yes, i don't believe tabloids either , that's why i don't like TMZ's "clues".
You could be right, i could be right.
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Its real because its on her facebook page. its recent because only new pics of Paris is always leaked. never do they leak pics from last year. who exactly are 'they' I would love to know   :s



I did actually see an interview of Grace talking negatively about Michael saying he got angry when she started getting close with the kids, and would try to keep the kids away from her, making him out to be controlling and insensitive.
^^^^^^^
I saw that interview where she was talking about him on camera, and you can hear her voice....but I never heard that part thoughh? are you sure, do you have a link?



I heard that Grace (who has had delusions of marrying Michael from the get-go) used to hint about "leaking things" to the press if he did not hire her back. Of course, who knows...there is so much stuff out there, and seeing things in the "hoax" light, she could have been very well in on everything.

This is so darn complicated- and having to second guess everything gets exhausting at times. But hey, I'm used to it now.  
^^^^^^^^
she was just like every other 18 year old highschool girl back then, crazy about Michael. who didnt want to marry him??

and why do people think the absolutely worse things about this woman, I will never know....how about he hired her back because he wanted to and not because she planned on blackmailing him. O_o why is that so hard to fathom?? she loves his kids and i dont think she will ever want to speak bad about him because she knows it will hurt them.

I also believe she is in on the hoax because she still is in touch with his children.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 01, 2011, 07:37:00 PM
and she has a FACEBOOK btw , actually two pages because her first page was filling up...someone that know her JUST posted this on her wall and i thoughtt it was interesting and shows she's still connected to the kids

Tina Spock-Kopcik
Hi Grace, I hope you are doing well. I love the pic of you and Paris, absolutely priceless. I know Colton sent you an email awhile back, I think he has a crush on Paris. I knew you wouldn't mind, he is funny like that. Take care!
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and this was posted awhile back and pay attention to that ladies last sentence. was that a slip up ? "keep u in his care" ??

Eleanor Knowles
Grace, it was so wonderful to see you on FB. Sounds like you have lived a very exciting life since AUC days. Saw you once on TV with Michael's children. God bless and keep you in His care. Mrs K
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 01, 2011, 07:47:38 PM
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and she has a FACEBOOK btw , actually two pages because her first page was filling up...someone that know her JUST posted this on her wall and i thoughtt it was interesting and shows she's still connected to the kids

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Hi Grace, I hope you are doing well. I love the pic of you and Paris, absolutely priceless. I know Colton sent you an email awhile back, I think he has a crush on Paris. I knew you wouldn't mind, he is funny like that. Take care!
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and this was posted awhile back and pay attention to that ladies last sentence. was that a slip up ? "keep u in his care" ??

Eleanor Knowles
Grace, it was so wonderful to see you on FB. Sounds like you have lived a very exciting life since AUC days. Saw you once on TV with Michael's children. God bless and keep you in His care. Mrs K
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His care, meaning God's care.

I don't know if Grace is in the know, I tend to think she's not but I'm not sure.I don't think she was at Carolwood Drive on June 25 right? Bodyguards, the chef and the kids besides Murray I think.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 01, 2011, 08:05:21 PM
Okay! "keeping her in gods care" makes more since.

and i dont believe Grace was in the know in the beginning at all. she was living in england at the time everything went down i believe. but since Michael have been plotting this hoax thing for a very long time it seemed, she could have known if he talked to her about it, they was really close for the past years so maybe they had a conversation about it idk.

also Teddy Riley imo didnt know about the hoax in the beginning either. he was on CNN on the day Michael died i believe crying like a baby. but now all of sudden hes a knower and is in contact with Michael judging from his tweets. so Michael maybe is letting people he want to know he is alive at his own pace. brining them in one at a time i guess lol
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 01, 2011, 08:32:54 PM
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I did actually see an interview of Grace talking negatively about Michael saying he got angry when she started getting close with the kids, and would try to keep the kids away from her, making him out to be controlling and insensitive. Still I think she is in on the hoax, and has her role to play. MJ wouldn't have kept her on for 17 years if he didn't approve of her. There's another hoax side to every officially presented story.

doesn't sound like a situation of complete trust there to me, wonder why?
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 01, 2011, 08:37:23 PM
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I did actually see an interview of Grace talking negatively about Michael saying he got angry when she started getting close with the kids, and would try to keep the kids away from her, making him out to be controlling and insensitive. Still I think she is in on the hoax, and has her role to play. MJ wouldn't have kept her on for 17 years if he didn't approve of her. There's another hoax side to every officially presented story.

doesn't sound like a situation of complete trust there to me, wonder why?


Not to me either. It could be false of course though. With a sting operation in the back of our heads, it could be very well possible he kept people close for certain reasons. Didn't Grace have mob ties?
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 02, 2011, 04:10:15 AM
I think someone has commented before, but with whom are they speaking on the webcam? There are several videos on youtube of Paris and Blanket, but who is the person they supposedly speak?
I'm just thinking ...
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 02, 2011, 04:56:13 AM
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Personally I only believe that Michael was the hat man at the memorial and that's all. No other disguises.
What about the woman with a hat?

By the way, I found a picture where Michael shows two of his fingers (with the tape on, which ruins it a bit). But you can see his fingers are longer and have a different structure. These are Paris' fingers. Why would Michael be lying down below her showing the "V" sign?

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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 02, 2011, 08:10:50 AM
You know that saying, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Sometimes you just have to. That doesn't mean you love them.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 02, 2011, 12:42:29 PM
MJ in a Grace costume -  ha ha that struck me as funny. :mrgreen:

I can just imagine him at home with a Grace costume in his wardrobe.  Not making fun of anyone here - just tickled me a bit.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 02, 2011, 04:28:54 PM




They seem :?:

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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 02, 2011, 04:44:48 PM
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Personally I only believe that Michael was the hat man at the memorial and that's all. No other disguises.
What about the woman with a hat?

That was Teri Hatcher with her daughter. I saw her pictures with her daughter many times, so I know her daughter well too from the pictures and that was definitely Teri Hatcher with her daughter in that pic. I do not believe Michael would use a woman disguise with high heels etc. I don't believe the blonde woman disguise either.
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Re: New pic of Paris and Grace?

  • on: April 03, 2011, 01:55:06 PM
Beautiful children...defo Michaels.I especially see this when Paris turns to the side.I think it's the chin.
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