LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: March 06, 2011, 03:12:21 PM
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People finally stand up for themselves! People in Libya do not longer live by the rules of Kadhafi. They have their rights back. That was taken away from them. Kadhafi killed his own people, what a nice ruler...killing his own people...pfff :? [/b][/i]

Many people believe 9/11 was an inside job.  If this is true, Bush also killed his own people.

I truly believe all polititians and leaders, from whatever country, have their own power agenda and care little for their own citizens.
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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: March 06, 2011, 03:30:50 PM
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People finally stand up for themselves! People in Libya do not longer live by the rules of Kadhafi. They have their rights back. That was taken away from them. Kadhafi killed his own people, what a nice ruler...killing his own people...pfff :? [/b][/i]

Many people believe 9/11 was an inside job.  If this is true, Bush also killed his own people.

I truly believe all polititians and leaders, from whatever country, have their own power agenda and care little for their own citizens.

Wow!  Kim, on what basis do you say Qadaffi killed his own people?  What do you really know about Libya or are you just repeating what you've heard in the media.  I remind you the media told us repeatedly that Michael was a child molester.  Do they have similar aims to discredit Kadaffi?  Did you listen to the video link I provided?
Miss Peppers, how is it you come to the conclusion that ALL leaders care little for their own citizens.  There are literally hundreds of countries, some of which we probably don't know the names of and certainly can't claim to know much about.  Could it be that the Western propagandist machine wants you to lump all leaders into the same category so that you lose faith in all leadership and all movements and thereby lose all hope for a better future.
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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: March 06, 2011, 03:40:26 PM
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Miss Peppers, how is it you come to the conclusion that ALL leaders care little for their own citizens.  There are literally hundreds of countries, some of which we probably don't know the names of and certainly can't claim to know much about.  Could it be that the Western propagandist machine wants you to lump all leaders into the same category so that you lose faith in all leadership and all movements and thereby lose all hope for a better future.

Im talking about all leaders... East, West and Inbetween.  

I have enough intelligence to look beyond the media and recognize the propoganda and make my own mind up on these issues.  xxx   :geek:
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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: March 06, 2011, 03:51:32 PM
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Miss Peppers, how is it you come to the conclusion that ALL leaders care little for their own citizens.  There are literally hundreds of countries, some of which we probably don't know the names of and certainly can't claim to know much about.  Could it be that the Western propagandist machine wants you to lump all leaders into the same category so that you lose faith in all leadership and all movements and thereby lose all hope for a better future.

Im talking about all leaders... East, West and Inbetween.  

I have enough intelligence to look beyond the media and recognize the propoganda and make my own mind up on these issues.  xxx   :geek:

I'm not questioning your intelligence.  I'm questioning your source for information.  In the case of Kadaffi, what is your source for determining he killed his own people and doesn't care about them?  And you stand by you assertion that ALL leaders are corrupt and/or don't care about people.  NO EXCEPTIONS!  Is that correct?

Sorry if I sound harsh, but I've presented a theory and had hoped that people would either prove my theory wrong with evidence or consider the theory seriously and do their own investigation.  After all, have we not spent many months dismantling the mainstream media reports on Michael, proving repeatedly that MEDIA LIES!!!  I had not expected mere assertions of truth without any evidence, such as Kadaffi killed his own people.  You may as well be quoting Diane Diamond about MJ.
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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: March 06, 2011, 04:48:10 PM
@gywnedd.  I didnt say Gadaffi killed his own people..  i was replying to KIM and using 9/11 to challenge her perception.

For me to post all my research and reading, and all my sources, etc would take a lot longer than this thread.  Its an ongoing process and i read pretty much all i can when i have the time to do so.  My reading is far and wide.

I enjoy debate and i enjoy this thread.  xx
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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: March 06, 2011, 07:41:53 PM
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@gywnedd.  I didnt say Gadaffi killed his own people..  i was replying to KIM and using 9/11 to challenge her perception.

For me to post all my research and reading, and all my sources, etc would take a lot longer than this thread.  Its an ongoing process and i read pretty much all i can when i have the time to do so.  My reading is far and wide.

I enjoy debate and i enjoy this thread.  xx

So back to the subject at hand, what specifically have you read about Kadaffi that has lead you to conclude that, like ALL the other leaders in the world, he doesn't care about his people.
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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: March 07, 2011, 04:09:10 PM
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@gywnedd.  I didnt say Gadaffi killed his own people..  i was replying to KIM and using 9/11 to challenge her perception.

For me to post all my research and reading, and all my sources, etc would take a lot longer than this thread.  Its an ongoing process and i read pretty much all i can when i have the time to do so.  My reading is far and wide.

I enjoy debate and i enjoy this thread.  xx

So back to the subject at hand, what specifically have you read about Kadaffi that has lead you to conclude that, like ALL the other leaders in the world, he doesn't care about his people.

i cant quote specifics.   I read extensively and i dont bookmark all the links so i can then prove to someone what i have read in order to justify my beliefs.  Sorry about that. x
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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: March 08, 2011, 04:46:06 PM
What are you up to, gwynned?

Ghaddaffi is a sane saint, caring for his people? Are you sure? Why? How? And the world is wrong? Excuse me ....
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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: March 08, 2011, 05:20:42 PM
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What are you up to, gwynned?

Ghaddaffi is a sane saint, caring for his people? Are you sure? Why? How? And the world is wrong? Excuse me ....

It would be interesting if gwynned would post her proof that gadaffi isnt killing his own people.  Instead she demands i post proof of my belief that all polititians are power cray and have their own agenda.

But they do...  obvious.  Gadaffi funded the IRA.  Then Blair meets him and kisses him.  Now we have Cameron touring the middle east with Arms dealers.   Its all a load of twoddle and i dont believe or trust any of them.

Im not on Gadaffi's side.  He funded terrorism.  Enough for me.  Let alone all of the other things he is accused of doing.  

But the West are no angels either.  All as bad as each other.
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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: March 09, 2011, 12:27:20 AM
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What are you up to, gwynned?

Ghaddaffi is a sane saint, caring for his people? Are you sure? Why? How? And the world is wrong? Excuse me ....

It would be interesting if gwynned would post her proof that gadaffi isnt killing his own people.  Instead she demands i post proof of my belief that all polititians are power cray and have their own agenda.

But they do...  obvious.  Gadaffi funded the IRA.  Then Blair meets him and kisses him.  Now we have Cameron touring the middle east with Arms dealers.   Its all a load of twoddle and i dont believe or trust any of them.

Im not on Gadaffi's side.  He funded terrorism.  Enough for me.  Let alone all of the other things he is accused of doing.  

But the West are no angels either.  All as bad as each other.

Miss Peppers, can you prove to me that YOU have not killed anyone?  

But you're right about the IRA.  He looks more Irish to me than Libyan.
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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: June 11, 2011, 06:04:07 PM
Merging.
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You know, I'm not sure anything of consequence is going on in Libya at all.  In fact, I think it may all be a hoax.  And I'm not alone in thinking that.

It is not a hoax. Khadafi is recruiting soldiers from other countries.
This is a destabilization issue for North Africa.
Just because your media do not report on this war does not make it inexistant, less bloody and less dirty.
Use your instincts and the web instead. It's all there.
http://http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=18876&p=337520#p337480

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gwynned wrote: Please provide links or supporting information on your assertions about Khadfi.

Alstublieft - it is old news picked up from African sources by western main stream media, the subject is still being discussed in forums (in Italian or French):
the mercenaries are hired in Tchad, Soudan, Niger, Mali, Europe.

http://http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=364418
http://http://www.africafocus.org/docs11/na1103.php
http://http://intelligencenews.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/01-709/
http://http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/16/world/africa/16mali.html
http://http://tomathon.com/mphp/2011/02/libyas-african-mercenary-problem/
http://http://www.myweku.com/2011/02/gaddafi-is-killing-us-with-his-african-mercenaries/
http://http://www.suite101.fr/content/libye--qui-sont-les-mercenaires-du-dictateur-mouammar-kadhafi--a26205
http://http://tchadonline.com/kadhafi-emploie-des-mercenaires-mais-combien/
http://http://probe.20minutes-blogs.fr/archive/2011/04/30/serbian-mercenaries-fighting-on-behalf-of-gaddafi.html
http://http://adrar-info.net/?p=1422

Background:
http://http://www.iacenter.org/africa/libya-it-dinucci042411/

If you are a strong one, go to youtube and search the war videos about Libya.
Don't tell me burned bodies were a hoax.
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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: June 11, 2011, 07:44:58 PM
Without a doubt, that it is necessary to read between the lines and scavenging in sources independent of the communicational establishment that controls the flows of information in the world, to find the truth about this conflict only so they can detect the real causes of this Assembly, see those who are behind the scenes and move the pieces in this new "Coliseum of reality"which are the means of communication in the world.


How works all?; It first creates a "media reality" which replaces the true and reality on this matrix that has been built with lies and half-truths real political decisions are taken, diplomat and soldier, who end up pretending to be the consensus of the world, when in fact represent the geopolitics of the capitalist powers, for which Africa, that territory believe exploited by members of the aggressor coalitionIt is vital, (in terms of raw materials and energy), the domain of energy are playing, and therefore they are not shame of the brazenness with which you are lying to the world's population; give laughter see the Obama, Clinton, Sarkozi and all the kind of spokespersons of the European elite condoler for the dead and wounded in the confrontation of internal Libya, when they themselves have caused and continue "Just to the side", causing millions of deaths in Adganisthan, Pakistan, Iraq and Palestine; the dead of Libya you more hurt to the West to the dead Irakies or Palestinians, not sound strange this?

With that boldly tear their robes United States and European Governments, when they themselves motivate conspiracies genocides in the four cardinal points of the planet, Libya is a military reconquest of Africa by NATO, in the middle of the inter-capitalist fight that includes China and RussiaIndia and Brazil.

On Gaddafi, you could say that at a stage of his life was an insurgent, revolutionary, but in recent times, became an ally and usual glowingly of the capitalists, and European Government and us, it was forced to make major concessions, policies, military and economic to be accepted by these Governments with drums and cymbals, estimated that the investments are incalculable for the once radical leaderup shareholder of the Italian football team Juventus is Gaddafi, as well as a financier of the election campaigns of Berlusconi and Sarkocy.

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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: July 23, 2011, 11:53:24 AM
I don't think it is a hoax, but what the medias explain about the reasons of this war it's all fake. This isn't war for democraty and to help some libyans to beat a dictator....  ::)

Libya is one of the country who offer a great technological revolution and some independance to countries of Africa. (Telephony, TV, low cost internet connection, medicine... )
With this point of view, it is understandable that Occident, mainly France who have a lot of interest in Africa, want to beat Ghadafi. Because Occident and France don't want Africa to develop, they want to enslave Africa for mineral resources, oil and implant companies. For exemple, the majority of the economy, telephony, medias, financial activities and mineral resources of Ivory Coast are exploited by french companies.

This is why french air fighters are in Libya with british and some americans. Not for help people against a dictator.

If this is for help, why don't we help Syria ? There are more killed people over there and no french army to help them...  >:( Oh, yeah... Syria is not a danger for french and british interests in Africa...
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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: August 31, 2011, 01:46:21 PM
Whether one believes this war is fake or real, this video sets the record straight on the Colonel and our old friends, the Rothschilds.  Imagine, lending money at ZERO percent interest.  Giving couples $50,000 when they get married to buy a home.   We would all be RICH except for the their thievery....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek&feature=player_embedded#!

Ya gotta love the Colonel!

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THRILLER in Libya, Filmed in Dubai

  • on: September 01, 2011, 11:14:35 AM
 afraid/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftr0DrpH_oM&feature=player_embedded#!

Interesting that the maker chose to splice in fake Thriller footage into the fake Libya footage.  Whose idea was that?  A coincidence?

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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: September 01, 2011, 11:23:03 AM
gwynned, you really believe that propaganda?
Do you know why there is 0% interest?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_banking
I will give you the credit of not having lived in any Arab country.
The more it is appropriate to research before swallowing youtube.
youtube is not promoting truth but freedom of speech.
Free speech may also mean freedom to lie without any consequences.
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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: September 06, 2011, 09:54:53 AM
It´s not a hoax!  :(

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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: September 06, 2011, 10:03:33 AM
gwynned, you really believe that propaganda?
Do you know why there is 0% interest?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_banking
I will give you the credit of not having lived in any Arab country.
The more it is appropriate to research before swallowing youtube.
youtube is not promoting truth but freedom of speech.
Free speech may also mean freedom to lie without any consequences.


I don't understand what you are saying?  Are you suggesting the zero percent interest is a lie?

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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: September 06, 2011, 10:31:04 AM
Celebrate in advance the "post-Qadhafi era"
The oil and mercenary-NATO are prepared to rule Libya


 (IAR Noticias)  23-Agosto-2011













Openly, with impunity granted to them by international complicity, oil companies and bands Libyan mercenaries who work as task force of the coalition land-NATO, and savor a "post-Gaddafi was" in control a collaborationist government in Libya.



Oil companies operating in Libya Before the start of the War Began Preparing for the Challenges Monday to resume production in the country, at a time in the rebel forces Which are closer to take control of the country, adviser on Tuesday The Wall Street Journal.
The actions of Several Italian companies at Libya Exhibiting s, such as Eni and Ansaldo STS, beaten at the Beginning of the popular revolt of the high-pitched country, back Monday with spikes Above 5%, When rebels accessed to Tripoli.
Before the fall of the regime possible of Muammar Gaddafi, the British oil giant BP said on Monday That will return to Libya to continue with STD Programme of farms "when Conditions permit".
A rebel victory Could Pave the Way to replace the production of the country in North Africa, in 2010 Reached 1.8 million barrels per day of oil and Derivatives, According To data from us. howeve, There are still major Obstacles s, such as damage to Infrastructure and the Risk of Instability.


Marathon Oil Corp., headquartered in Houston, have been "preliminary talks" with the rebels on the situation in plants WHERE've Interests, in order to forge a plan to restore production, said a Spokesman for the company.


A Spokesman for BP PLC said on Monday the company WAS That Determined to return to Libya "as soon as Conditions permit", while you have not defined a specific term. Royal Dutch Shell PLC, Total SA and Repsol YPF SA, Also Previously active in Libya , Would not Provide details on when to resume production They Might.


With the largest oil reserves in Africa and Its tested significant role in export markets, The Importance of Libya for the oil industry and Its Future Potential production represents major attraction for international oil companies increasingly Who Have Used to Operate in dangerous Political Conditions Around the World .
Libya have "potential upside," said Lawrence Eagles, analyst of JP Morgan Chase & Co. howeve I added: "There is still a situation in Which no one can say with clarity how" will be the Government. "Basically we Have Before us a blank page ".


Marathon and ConocoPhillips, partners in the Waha field in Libya, said they did not yet have a timetable for the return of workers to the country, where fighting has intensified since early this year between a rebel and Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's regime, and where the battles continued on Monday around Tripoli.
Most of Libya's oil production was closed after the oil companies were forced to withdraw due to conflict and staff the plants are seen caught in the crossfire.


ConocoPhillips said ignoring the extent of damage at the site of Waha, who had previously paid an average production of about 350,000 barrels of equivalent oil per day.
The potential for damage is significant. The bombings have caused great damage and pipelines may be blocked with thick oil after being out of use for months, they said international oil companies and rebels.


Some analysts have compared the situation with Iraq, where it took more than four years to exceed production levels before the US-led invasion in 2003, says the International Energy Agency.


Pairs of Libya in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) have adopted a cautious attitude with regard to conclusions about the restoration of the country's oil industry.
"The situation in Libya remains very uncertain, and the time OPEC will adopt a wait and see," said a delegate of another member of OPEC.


Prepare the government "collaborator"

Meanwhile, French President Nicolas Sarkozy will meet Monday with the executive board chairman of the CNT (the coalition "rebel"), Mahmoud Jibril, who wait "in Paris in the coming days," said French Minister of Foreign Affairs, Alain Juppe.
Jibril Mahmoud studied in the U.S. and graduated in Egypt. He was a member of the Libyan government. led the think-tank 'economic regime until Qaddafi turned his steps to liberalize the economy and resigned. then lived much of his life abroad working as a consultant until his recent return.
President Sarkozy also called for the "coming days" at a meeting of the countries allied with the rebels, who have been recognized by 30 countries as the legitimate authority in Libya.
Seek to design a "roadmap" for the National Transition Council Benghazi, the 37-member secret-to prevent power from falling apart by tribal and religious differences between Sunni, Shia and Bedouins in Libya.


The 20 countries of the contact group be used to support and finance the rebels until now. France, Britain, Italy, USA. UU., Norway, Denmark and Qatar, among others, are now ready to prepare for the day after Libya is not "iraquíce" and make the same mistakes as in Baghdad.
They do not want to see a "Western hand" in the later and the new authorities recommend not to dissolve the police or the army. Abdul Jalil said that the oil and gas licenses will benefit the countries that helped.


British Prime Minister Cameron said the Libyans will be released frozen funds quickly to help in reconstruction.


Cameron and Sarkozy also spoke by telephone on Monday with the leader of the Transitional Council in Benghazi, Abdul Jalil, who had confirmed that "the rebels were under the control of most of Tripoli" but had "pockets of resistance throughout the country" . 'They agreed to respect human rights during the transition process, "said Cameron.

http://www.iarnoticias.com/2011/secciones/africa/0047_libia_petroleras_mercenarios_23agos2011.html

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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: September 06, 2011, 10:52:36 AM
Conference concludes "Friends of Libya" in Paris
2011-09-02 08: 50 BJT



World leaders and other authorities concluded the meeting on the future of Libya after the overthrow of Muammar Qadhafi. The President of France, Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister David Cameron paid honors to the interim leadership of Libya and set a roadmap for the reconstruction of the country high-pitched

Senior officials from some 60 countries attended the Conference "Friends of Libya" in Paris. The heads of NATO, the UN and the EU were also present at the event


Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, meanwhile, urged the interim leaders to seek reconciliation after deposing Gaddafi and pledged their support to the Transitional Government. With the anxious West to avoid the mistakes made in Iraq, the Conference of "Friends of Libya" focused on the political and economic reconstruction of the country.
The heads of NATO, the UN and the EU were also present at the event. Out of the talks, there was also interest in the lucrative business opportunities to restore and expand the oil sector of Libya as well as its infrastructure.

http://espanol.cntv.cn/20110902/103249.shtml




35% of Libyan oil for France?
AFP Updated on 01/09/2011 at 08:57| Released on 01/09/2011 at 08:57

The National Transitional Council (CNT) Libya has promised to give to France 35% of crude oil from Libya in exchange for recognition of its legitimacy Paris, Liberation reported today . The newspaper reprinted the letter of the CNT, written in Arabic and he said the firm sent the Emir of Qatar, with a copy to the Secretary General of the Arab League. Dated April 3, less than three weeks after the adoption in UN resolution 1973 paving the way for military action of NATO against the regime of Muammar Gaddafi, the document mentions an agreement "giving 35% of total crude oil to the French in exchange for permanent and total support to our Board "according to the translation of Liberation .   "I am not aware of the letter, said Alain Juppe, the foreign minister, on RTL , adding ignore the existence of a formal agreement. "What I know, he said, is that the transition board has said very formally, in the reconstruction of Libya, he addressed preferentially to those who supported him. It seems to me quite logical and fair enough. " Until early this year, Libya produced about 1.6 million barrels of oil per day, which ranked 17th largest in the world. But its pumps have fallen sharply in recent months. The country has the largest oil reserves in Africa. ALSO READ: "Libya: countries friendly to the rebels will be rewarded "The new Libya were piled up in Paris 'BLOG - Libya: diplomacy dangerous for Algiers


http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2011/09/01/97001-20110901FILWWW00437-35-du-petrole-libyen-pour-la-france-a.php


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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: September 11, 2011, 09:51:22 AM
Libya - Anonymous recognizes Col. Muammar Gaddafi as "leader of the free world"!http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CMUsD3txxeE

Well this pretty much ties it all together.

Note the song by Azeez JACKSON at the end......Qadaffi's like the man in the mirror.  I know.  Just another coincidence.  Just like it's a coincidence that Michael's military look at one time looked like he was emulating Qadaffi.

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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

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Re: LIBYAN CIVIL WAR - A HOAX???

  • on: September 19, 2011, 09:57:55 PM
The Vultures Moving in on Libya
2011 09 18

From: reuters.com













From L-R, French philosopher Bernard-Henri-Levy, France’s President Nicolas Sarkozy, National Transitional Council (NTC) Prime Minister Mahmoud Jibril, and Britain’s Prime Minister David Cameron walk together as they arrive at the Tripoli Medical Center September 15, 2011

UK eases travel recommendations for Libya

From: reuters.com

Britain cleared the way on Thursday for essential travel to the capital Tripoli and a number of other Libyan towns, lifting curbs that had held back businesses seeking to win contracts to rebuild the North Africa country.

The Foreign Office had previously advised against all travel to Libya and recommended that British nationals there leave because of the fighting between supporters and opponents of ousted leader Col. Muammar Gaddafi.

The move should pave the way for British businesses to start to move back into Libya. Contractors had been unwilling to defy travel restrictions and there had been fears that Britain could miss out on deals were the restrictions to persist.

The announcement coincided with a visit to Libya by Prime Minister David Cameron and French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

Foreign Secretary William Hague said in a statement he had decided to ease the travel recommendations in light of the improving security situation in the country, where interim government forces are besieging the last bastions of support for Gaddafi.

The Foreign Office said essential travel to Zuwara, Zawiyah, Tripoli, al Khums, Zlitan, Misrata, and the coastal towns from Ras Lanuf to the Egyptian border, including Benghazi, was now possible but it continued to advise against all travel to all other areas of Libya.

Source: reuters.com

Libya: to King Sarkozy, the spoils
By Pepe Escobar | atimes.com

Move over, Lawrence of Arabia. The Great Gallic Liberator of Libya (and any other gullible Arab in sight), neo-Napoleonic French President Nicolas Sarkozy, along with his sidekick British Prime Minister David of Arabia Cameron, gallantly strode into a cordoned off military airport in Tripoli to sing La Vie en Rose by the Mediterranean, thus celebrating the success of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization’s long bombing of Libya into "democracy".

Tagging along for the photo-op was insufferable self-promoter and self-described "new philosopher" Bernard-Henri Levy, he of the perennially revealing torso under a neatly pressed white shirt, and he of the notorious phone call from Benghazi who "sold" a war to the beleaguered Gallic Liberator (as if King Sarko would refuse any push to enlarge his grandeur).

No need to hold the Imperial Rome metaphors - from "victory lap" to "laurels" and the inevitable "to the victor the spoils" (of war), because that’s exactly what this was.

King Sarko and Little Dave may not look like the lovely lady from Angola who’s just been crowned Miss Universe - but they couldn’t be in fuller "feel free to bask in my glow" mode. A victory lap in the periphery of empire - even if you’re just a lowly proconsul - certainly beats being mercilessly crushed by Europe’s economic debacle.

To the sound of Apache helicopters patrolling the Mediterranean, and escorted by dozens of riot police, King Sarko felt the need to tell an unsuspecting world, "What we did was for humanitarian reasons. There was no hidden agenda."

But just in case - and with Tripoli’s top two hotels swarming with multilingual contractors/vultures - the chairman of the dodgy Transitional National Council (TNC), Mustafa Abdul Jalil, had to spell out the agenda: "allies and friends" would "have priority within a framework of transparency" in sharing the loot. So many juicy oil and gas (and water and uranium and reconstruction) contracts to bag, so little time.

Echoing King Sarko, Little Dave bombastically proclaimed, "the Arab spring could become an Arab summer". That’s code for NATO ready to bomb more dictators to oblivion - as long as there are any opportunist "rebels" willing to call the (European) cavalry by exhibiting "pro-democracy" credentials, fake or otherwise.

King Sarko even outlined the next chapter: the road to Damascus. Dear Bashar, time to start booking that one-way ticket.

Somalia rules

The King Sarko/Little Dave lightning Tripoli tour was carefully timed to upstage the visit by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Yet as far as the soul of the Arab Spring - Egypt - is concerned, Recep is the man, not the Anglo-French NATO bombers.

And to think that just yesterday British and French intelligence were so happy in bed with Gaddafi’s security apparatus. Such a pity that Little Dave did not enjoy some quality time with Tripoli military commander Abdelhakim Belhaj - former emir of the Libya Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), former al-Qaeda asset, former CIA torturee but (good for him) eternal Gaddafi foe.

Read the rest of the article at: atimes.com

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