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Are you sure this moment in the video is really before MJ's 02 conferance speech? Anyway it's very very interesting. The 02 conferance has always bothered me a lot - you can see in the footage that almost every single person in the audience is filming MJ with their cameras, phones or whatever but yet, you will not find any amateur/private footage of the event on yt or generally on the internet... Something's strange here 0.o
Quote from: susieMJ on November 11, 2013, 06:52:10 AMAre you sure this moment in the video is really before MJ's 02 conferance speech? Anyway it's very very interesting. The 02 conferance has always bothered me a lot - you can see in the footage that almost every single person in the audience is filming MJ with their cameras, phones or whatever but yet, you will not find any amateur/private footage of the event on yt or generally on the internet... Something's strange here 0.oGood point. Seems there's only formal/informal recordings of the actual broadcast. Something to think about.
Quote from: starchild on November 11, 2013, 07:52:17 AMQuote from: susieMJ on November 11, 2013, 06:52:10 AMAre you sure this moment in the video is really before MJ's 02 conferance speech? Anyway it's very very interesting. The 02 conferance has always bothered me a lot - you can see in the footage that almost every single person in the audience is filming MJ with their cameras, phones or whatever but yet, you will not find any amateur/private footage of the event on yt or generally on the internet... Something's strange here 0.oGood point. Seems there's only formal/informal recordings of the actual broadcast. Something to think about.well, there are fan-recorded videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnxqRdSX78E and also this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R8nOMwy7es
Quote from: Thriller4ever on November 11, 2013, 08:57:13 AMQuote from: starchild on November 11, 2013, 07:52:17 AMQuote from: susieMJ on November 11, 2013, 06:52:10 AMAre you sure this moment in the video is really before MJ's 02 conferance speech? Anyway it's very very interesting. The 02 conferance has always bothered me a lot - you can see in the footage that almost every single person in the audience is filming MJ with their cameras, phones or whatever but yet, you will not find any amateur/private footage of the event on yt or generally on the internet... Something's strange here 0.oGood point. Seems there's only formal/informal recordings of the actual broadcast. Something to think about.well, there are fan-recorded videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnxqRdSX78E and also this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R8nOMwy7esthat first video was uploaded MARCH 8, 2009 :TongueOutSmiley:
Quote from: gwynned on November 11, 2013, 09:02:30 AMQuote from: Thriller4ever on November 11, 2013, 08:57:13 AMQuote from: starchild on November 11, 2013, 07:52:17 AMQuote from: susieMJ on November 11, 2013, 06:52:10 AMAre you sure this moment in the video is really before MJ's 02 conferance speech? Anyway it's very very interesting. The 02 conferance has always bothered me a lot - you can see in the footage that almost every single person in the audience is filming MJ with their cameras, phones or whatever but yet, you will not find any amateur/private footage of the event on yt or generally on the internet... Something's strange here 0.oGood point. Seems there's only formal/informal recordings of the actual broadcast. Something to think about.well, there are fan-recorded videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnxqRdSX78E and also this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R8nOMwy7esthat first video was uploaded MARCH 8, 2009 :TongueOutSmiley:LOL, so what's the big deal?
Actually there are many fan recorded footages of the 02 press conference, but all of them don't appear in the first page itself...you have to check the other pages too.What I'm thinking is MJ hired a bunch of photoshop-ers who edited the pictures with slight differences so that we are always confused whether it's MJ or not. But I can't come up with any reason why he would do that.
I don't believe the O2 was staged at all. It was a real press conference, there were members of the media present. This is a really old, long ago thoroughly debunked theory.
I believe it was 'staged' in as much as it was a filmed performance, carefully scripted, (in spite of it cleverly appearing to the contrary), probably with certain carefully positioned 'fans' (actors - at the front, I'm thinking of one over exuberant gentleman in particular!) to convey the scene of a much loved and missed entertainer announcing an exciting final project to his adoring audience (to make what will happen next, which is in fact the main event, even more shocking and poignant).But 'staged' as in green screen? No, I think it really happened.To go back to Thriller's first post, it is odd for that split second shot (Thriller's screencap) to be included in TII. Why? Does it add in any way to the O2 segment of TII? Don't think so, as it's too quick to even be noticed by most! Thriller, were you going through the film frame by frame to even find it?!
Quote from: curls on November 12, 2013, 03:01:13 AMI believe it was 'staged' in as much as it was a filmed performance, carefully scripted, (in spite of it cleverly appearing to the contrary), probably with certain carefully positioned 'fans' (actors - at the front, I'm thinking of one over exuberant gentleman in particular!) to convey the scene of a much loved and missed entertainer announcing an exciting final project to his adoring audience (to make what will happen next, which is in fact the main event, even more shocking and poignant).But 'staged' as in green screen? No, I think it really happened.To go back to Thriller's first post, it is odd for that split second shot (Thriller's screencap) to be included in TII. Why? Does it add in any way to the O2 segment of TII? Don't think so, as it's too quick to even be noticed by most! Thriller, were you going through the film frame by frame to even find it?!Actually no, I did not pause the movie at every frame. I happened to notice it accidentally. And once I saw that, I spent nearly three hours pausing the whole movie, but I couldn't find anything important. I'm not suggesting that this whole press conference is a green screen thing but when I saw that frame I knew it meant something.