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Time of Death
December 28, 2009, 11:25:42 AM
I am sorry that I have to reopen this particular topic. But was there an exact time of death established for MJ? I mean how long was he deceased. I know they declared him dead at UCLA right? The only reason I am asking this is because of conflicting stories about how long MJ had already been dead before Murray supposedly found him? People like Latoya that keep saying that he had died around 9 or 9:30 that morning. Ok but...how would she know this ... she was not there. What was the condition of his body when he was brought in because if he had been as long as some are speculating then did he die overnight u know like at 3 or 4 that morning? I don't know what to think anymore. Paramedics claimed he was already dead when they arrived? How do we know any interviews with paradmedics who were there that day? The timeline is soooo confusing!!! :cry:
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Re: Time of Death
December 28, 2009, 11:57:02 AM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
I am sorry that I have to reopen this particular topic. But was there an exact time of death established for MJ? I mean how long was he deceased. I know they declared him dead at UCLA right? The only reason I am asking this is because of conflicting stories about how long MJ had already been dead before Murray supposedly found him? People like Latoya that keep saying that he had died around 9 or 9:30 that morning. Ok but...how would she know this ... she was not there. What was the condition of his body when he was brought in because if he had been as long as some are speculating then did he die overnight u know like at 3 or 4 that morning? I don't know what to think anymore. Paramedics claimed he was already dead when they arrived? How do we know any interviews with paradmedics who were there that day? The timeline is soooo confusing!!! :cry:


Some people said that he was already dead when he had been "rushed" to the hospital and the official time of death is 2:26pm, when Jermaine made the statement
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Re: Time of Death
December 28, 2009, 12:09:28 PM
Well... the official time of death is 2:26pm
According to some... he was still in rehearsals at 12:00 that day.
Others claim he died around 11:30..

and then theres LaToya....

...any progress on this ??

 :?
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Re: Time of Death
December 28, 2009, 12:10:37 PM
according to the death certificate , they don't even know WHICH DAY HE DIED ON...
Look at it , the box where you should put the "DATE of last seen alive" is'nt even filled in.
Thanks to bad_girl for pointing this out :idea:
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Re: Time of Death
December 28, 2009, 12:18:42 PM
Randy Phillips stated in an interview that MJ was on life support at the hospital and the staff were waiting for katherine to arrive for them to turn it off..  he said that the hospital staff told him he had no brain function.  But if he was on life support he must had had a heart beat at this point.

[youtube:349f4uzz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKcVI3lXgQ0[/youtube:349f4uzz]

Randy says he was at the hospital with Frank Dilelio and they were working on MJ at the hospital and they had him on life support he has no brain function but his HEART WAS BEATING.
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Re: Time of Death
December 28, 2009, 12:34:32 PM
I was thinking about his time of death a few days ago... Something isn't right.
If he died at 2.26pm, the time in the Netherlands was 11.26pm. But at that time, the first rumours came on tv here. So I switched to CNN, and a couple of hours (?) later CNN stated his death (although they were talking about a statement from TMZ all the time)
So they confirmed his death hours later than he had really died? :?

It's driving me crazy:
Was he a DOA? Did he die in hospital after they worked on him? Or did he die at home?
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Re: Time of Death
December 28, 2009, 12:44:59 PM
I sent an email to Ed Winter about that exact question, but didn't get a reply, yet.
If there's no answer in the first week of January, I will email again or call.

If he will answer, that he was dead for hours, he'd bring a lot of people in some serious trouble, wouldn't he?

I wrote:
"Dear Mr Winter,

as there are so many different confusing reports on Michael Jackson's
death, I want to ask you, if you can provide a time of death.

First it was said, that he had a faint pulse, when paramedics arrived,
but later reports said, he was already dead for hours.

I'd be very thankful, if you could clear that up for me.

Best regards,

"

Oh, and I read somewhere, that they couldn't point out the time of death, because it was more than 40°C or something in Michael's bedroom and the body was warm, but I can'T remember which conflicting story this part belongs to...  :roll:
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Re: Time of Death
December 28, 2009, 12:46:22 PM
Has anyone got any links to these claims that MJ was dead when paramedics arrived?  Or DOA?

Who is the source for these claims?
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Re: Time of Death
December 28, 2009, 12:51:45 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Has anyone got any links to these claims that MJ was dead when paramedics arrived?  Or DOA?

Who is the source for these claims?

Dead on arrival (from a "reliable" source"):
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Dead when paramedics arrived (only tabloids, none of the big media reported that):
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Re: Time of Death
December 28, 2009, 12:59:06 PM
Quote from: "MJhunny"
according to the death certificate , they don't even know WHICH DAY HE DIED ON...
Look at it , the box where you should put the "DATE of last seen alive" is'nt even filled in.
Thanks to bad_girl for pointing this out :idea:

thx to mjhunny for actually posting the picture, because i didn't know how to re-size it, but this information seems to have been considered "worthless" by certain people L.O.V.E
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Re: Time of Death
December 28, 2009, 01:15:58 PM
Quote from: "bad_girl"
Quote from: "MJhunny"
according to the death certificate , they don't even know WHICH DAY HE DIED ON...
Look at it , the box where you should put the "DATE of last seen alive" is'nt even filled in.
Thanks to bad_girl for pointing this out :idea:

thx to mjhunny for actually posting the picture, because i didn't know how to re-size it, but this information seems to have been considered "worthless" by certain people L.O.V.E

Huh?
What's wrong, bad_girl?
Where did she post a pic - can't see it.
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Re: Time of Death
December 28, 2009, 01:22:45 PM
the death was called, by dr. richelle cooper, at 2:26pm.. jermaine's press conference was a little later..I'm not sure. I really don't remember..
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Re: Time of Death
December 28, 2009, 01:23:23 PM
Quote from: "Ninanina"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Has anyone got any links to these claims that MJ was dead when paramedics arrived?  Or DOA?

Who is the source for these claims?

Dead on arrival (from a "reliable" source"):
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Dead when paramedics arrived (only tabloids, none of the big media reported that):
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The first link is quite interesting as it states:  Los Angeles coroner Fred Corral told CNN that Michael Jackson was pronounced dead after arriving at the hospital in full cardiac arrest.

Now... i think Randy Phillips may be the truth holder here.  It is possible MJ was brought in without a pulse but the got it back whilst at the hospital.  However in a heart attack case, once the heart stops beating there is only a 3 minute window to get it beating again before the brain starts dying due to lack of oxygen.
So maybe they got it back at the hospital but by then it was too late as the brain had died so they placed him on life support until his mother arrived.  Sad.. but that may be the truth?
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Re: Time of Death
December 28, 2009, 01:26:19 PM
The doctors would not try to revive a dead person for two hours, its not standard procedure. All this conflicting and inconsistencies doesn’t make any sense, anything about this case doesn’t make any sense that is why I’m still here.
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Re: Time of Death
December 28, 2009, 01:29:13 PM
NO I CANT BELIEVE THIS WHAT ABOUT THE DRIP THE PARAMEDICS PUT IN BEHIND HIS KNEE ,NO ONE CAN GET ANYTHING STRAIGHT CAN THEY :roll:
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