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No one in this hoax, in my opinion, is believing blindly anything except that Michael is alive, and even that's based on facts. This forum was to give room for discussion, doesn't mean we believe it. Some news article might show up which might prove our theories wrong or right. We can never be sure about anything in this hoax and that's the exact purpose (of notmaking information available for everyone to see until everything is over. I firmly believe this.}There are certain events in Michael's life that undeniably fit into this hoax. For example, the video Liberian Girl. or the 1998 signature he did in 1988. or even the pepsi accident. we don't know anything at this moment whether he did them on the future hoax project or made those past events a basis for the hoax.Coming to MJ's child molestation Cases. the FBI released 333 pages saying MJ is innocent. How can you think that MJ's denial about the accusations could be a lie?Everything in this hoax for us believers is a guessing game and there's actually no point in thinking a certain way. that's what I learned from this hoax.
Now i don't believe he faked drug addiction or child molesting trial or anything that happened to him
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginNo one in this hoax, in my opinion, is believing blindly anything except that Michael is alive, and even that's based on facts. This forum was to give room for discussion, doesn't mean we believe it. Some news article might show up which might prove our theories wrong or right. We can never be sure about anything in this hoax and that's the exact purpose (of notmaking information available for everyone to see until everything is over. I firmly believe this.}There are certain events in Michael's life that undeniably fit into this hoax. For example, the video Liberian Girl. or the 1998 signature he did in 1988. or even the pepsi accident. we don't know anything at this moment whether he did them on the future hoax project or made those past events a basis for the hoax.Coming to MJ's child molestation Cases. the FBI released 333 pages saying MJ is innocent. How can you think that MJ's denial about the accusations could be a lie?Everything in this hoax for us believers is a guessing game and there's actually no point in thinking a certain way. that's what I learned from this hoax.My post was an answer to Curls post, in which I was trying to explain that if you lie half of the times, people (in general) have a harder time to believe you when you are telling the truth. That's what my mother taught me and that's what I'm teaching my children. I also said, in my opinion, that is NOT the case with Michael. In this thread were many posts from members who felt the last part of his life was leading up to the hoax, starting with the pepsi-accident. If they feel so, it's their good right, I just don't agree with that. Michael was a prankster and even a manipulator at some points, but not a straight out liar. And I also feel that the pepsi-accident was what it was: an accident. As is the trial, and pyama-day. Not hoaxy, but real. Pepsi-accident might have formed a 'start', but was real, otherwise he would't have sued pepsi and obtained a large amount which he used for the Michael Jackson Burn Center.Quote Curls: your 'audience' is questioning or disbelieving everything you say or doI (and we) don't believe he is guilty, or lied about that, because of what I (we) have learned. What about the other 90 % of the 'audience' that believed the tabloids or couldn't care less now he is 'dead'?someone would need to confirm this but i think i read the other day that he didn't sue pepsi but asked them to build the ( i think it was a children's) burn wing in his name at the burn center or something like that. which kinda makes me go hummm :suspect:40 billion dollars ?? how much would it take to build a childrens hospital ?? :icon_e_wink: :michael-jackson:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginNo one in this hoax, in my opinion, is believing blindly anything except that Michael is alive, and even that's based on facts. This forum was to give room for discussion, doesn't mean we believe it. Some news article might show up which might prove our theories wrong or right. We can never be sure about anything in this hoax and that's the exact purpose (of notmaking information available for everyone to see until everything is over. I firmly believe this.}There are certain events in Michael's life that undeniably fit into this hoax. For example, the video Liberian Girl. or the 1998 signature he did in 1988. or even the pepsi accident. we don't know anything at this moment whether he did them on the future hoax project or made those past events a basis for the hoax.Coming to MJ's child molestation Cases. the FBI released 333 pages saying MJ is innocent. How can you think that MJ's denial about the accusations could be a lie?Everything in this hoax for us believers is a guessing game and there's actually no point in thinking a certain way. that's what I learned from this hoax.My post was an answer to Curls post, in which I was trying to explain that if you lie half of the times, people (in general) have a harder time to believe you when you are telling the truth. That's what my mother taught me and that's what I'm teaching my children. I also said, in my opinion, that is NOT the case with Michael. In this thread were many posts from members who felt the last part of his life was leading up to the hoax, starting with the pepsi-accident. If they feel so, it's their good right, I just don't agree with that. Michael was a prankster and even a manipulator at some points, but not a straight out liar. And I also feel that the pepsi-accident was what it was: an accident. As is the trial, and pyama-day. Not hoaxy, but real. Pepsi-accident might have formed a 'start', but was real, otherwise he would't have sued pepsi and obtained a large amount which he used for the Michael Jackson Burn Center.Quote Curls: your 'audience' is questioning or disbelieving everything you say or doI (and we) don't believe he is guilty, or lied about that, because of what I (we) have learned. What about the other 90 % of the 'audience' that believed the tabloids or couldn't care less now he is 'dead'?
We don't know a 'thing' about Michael's life and what goes on in his mind. I'm not saying there aren't moments in his life where he was vulnerable. But I can't see him as an emotional wreck doing drugs the way doctors tell him. In Michael's case we can never be sure that events in his life took place in a definite manner.The Pepsi accident has been discussed before in this forum and I was NOT READY to accept that Michael could have faked it. But who am i to judge? How do I even know or how can i be so sure just because there is a certain impression of Michael in my mind and that he will act in that particular way only. That would mean he shouldn't be faking his death because the Michael I previously knew was 'painfully sensitive and honest' to ever do such a thing. If Michael can fake his death, he can do anything else.Anything can happen, and nothing is impossible.@Suspicious I think the i read the same on this very forum.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginNo one in this hoax, in my opinion, is believing blindly anything except that Michael is alive, and even that's based on facts. This forum was to give room for discussion, doesn't mean we believe it. Some news article might show up which might prove our theories wrong or right. We can never be sure about anything in this hoax and that's the exact purpose (of notmaking information available for everyone to see until everything is over. I firmly believe this.}There are certain events in Michael's life that undeniably fit into this hoax. For example, the video Liberian Girl. or the 1998 signature he did in 1988. or even the pepsi accident. we don't know anything at this moment whether he did them on the future hoax project or made those past events a basis for the hoax.Coming to MJ's child molestation Cases. the FBI released 333 pages saying MJ is innocent. How can you think that MJ's denial about the accusations could be a lie?Everything in this hoax for us believers is a guessing game and there's actually no point in thinking a certain way. that's what I learned from this hoax.Right very well exposed, thanks.This is for Do: Michael has been the target since he was 5 years old everybody wanted to know every single Michael's step, he is a very reflexive man and I believe that during his long road or plane trips to his concerts he had enough time to build a plot against media so the world would never know his real life, it's like living a real life in privacy (indoor) and a staged life outdoor to protect his family and himself, do you believe Michael only had 2 women in his life: LMP & Debbie?? those were the ones Michael wanted us to know, furthermore as I once said on one of my posts I don't believe that Michael was/is an unhappy man rather the contrary I would say.
The end always gives way to a beginning.Scientists tell us that dark matter exists, but they cannot SEE it. They have admitted that they can't find 90 percent of the Universe! We cannot see or touch it; its existence is IMPLIED ---through findings/"evidence". Throughout the History of time, there has been an ongoing battle between GOOD and EVIL. Prophets have walked among us pre-June 25 and continue to walk among us --- physically in the flesh OR implied through Faith. They walk the face of the Earth with a message --- Love for all human-kind….. and deLIVErance; the common denominator of Prophetic messages. The world listened when Michael fought his battles with UNdying determination ---and JUSTICE prevailed. And they listened to his message. BUt they did NOT listen close enough! SOME people only "heard" (half truths)…… while others truly "listened" (Truth!) ---- they got the whole enchilada. That battle is still being fought……just on a different layer of the "enchilada".Believing and knowing are two different things. Don't take my word as conclusive evidence. The proof will be provided in future HIStory……….
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginIf you really believe in this, that nothing happened to him, that all was his plan.... then i guess he really is a master about communication.But honestly, i don't think so. And i'm not being mean about Michael's ability to do things. Just i don't think everything in life is a plan or part of a greater plan. No way.This post was just to bring you all back on Earth, a little.I agree with you. This is just too much. Making a fool and a clown of yourself just for a hoax?! To cheat on his fans for years? I tend to go back in time and might assign his confusing behaviour over the years to monarch programming. I even think he himself could have been a victim of sexual abuse, and thereby developed DID (Dissociative identity disorder). As he said in the Schmuley tapes: "I’ve seen the worst. The nightmare of – the human condition, the human soul, of what I would never think common man would be capable of behaving in such a way." I know Michael denied it (the abuse) but there are several accounts that describe otherwise. He also said he had just two nosejobs (as far as he could remember....that's telling, right?).I know Michael is capable to do the unthinkable. But to say his life was just for the hoax....That doesn't feel right to me. ::gee i don't know if mark lester can forget he donated sperm to the king of pop , then the king of pop ought to be able to forget a nose job or two :thjajaja121:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginIf you really believe in this, that nothing happened to him, that all was his plan.... then i guess he really is a master about communication.But honestly, i don't think so. And i'm not being mean about Michael's ability to do things. Just i don't think everything in life is a plan or part of a greater plan. No way.This post was just to bring you all back on Earth, a little.I agree with you. This is just too much. Making a fool and a clown of yourself just for a hoax?! To cheat on his fans for years? I tend to go back in time and might assign his confusing behaviour over the years to monarch programming. I even think he himself could have been a victim of sexual abuse, and thereby developed DID (Dissociative identity disorder). As he said in the Schmuley tapes: "I’ve seen the worst. The nightmare of – the human condition, the human soul, of what I would never think common man would be capable of behaving in such a way." I know Michael denied it (the abuse) but there are several accounts that describe otherwise. He also said he had just two nosejobs (as far as he could remember....that's telling, right?).I know Michael is capable to do the unthinkable. But to say his life was just for the hoax....That doesn't feel right to me.
If you really believe in this, that nothing happened to him, that all was his plan.... then i guess he really is a master about communication.But honestly, i don't think so. And i'm not being mean about Michael's ability to do things. Just i don't think everything in life is a plan or part of a greater plan. No way.This post was just to bring you all back on Earth, a little.
Quote Sweet:I happened the same as you say but......after seeing the below pic who being in pain and shocked by an accident feels like wearing a sequin glove?Because the showman in him prevailed. He thought it would be a great shot of him , being on the strecher with the glove on, knowing there was a lot of press. You know his slogan was 'the show must go on'.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginQuote Sweet:I happened the same as you say but......after seeing the below pic who being in pain and shocked by an accident feels like wearing a sequin glove?Because the showman in him prevailed. He thought it would be a great shot of him , being on the strecher with the glove on, knowing there was a lot of press. You know his slogan was 'the show must go on'.Hmmmmm!!
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginQuote Sweet:I happened the same as you say but......after seeing the below pic who being in pain and shocked by an accident feels like wearing a sequin glove?Because the showman in him prevailed. He thought it would be a great shot of him , being on the strecher with the glove on, knowing there was a lot of press. You know his slogan was 'the show must go on'.Hmmmmm!!i think there was a story that he picked the glove up and put it on but it seemed like ( and this is strictly from memory) that the glove never was off. just sayin' , anyone looked?
Ok Do, I must honestly say this, I really think you're in a transition period, which me, Sweetsunset and several others went through. Take your own time. Michael may not really be the man we always knew. No one is saying they know everything here. Things in his life can be either ways, but if you think logically, they tend more towards hoax.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginOk Do, I must honestly say this, I really think you're in a transition period, which me, Sweetsunset and several others went through. Take your own time. Michael may not really be the man we always knew. No one is saying they know everything here. Things in his life can be either ways, but if you think logically, they tend more towards hoax.Could very well be. It just doesn't feel 'right', you know? Actually, everything that is going on (not on the forum, but in the news) gives me the chills. Sometimes I even feel that there isn't even a hoax! I wasn't very active over here the last months, and that time away created some kind of 'other reality' I guess. Maybe I missed some valuabel info. Time to read up again.