Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

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Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 07, 2013, 01:06:01 PM
http://sanmarinotribune.com/2013/02/06/michael-jacksons-moms-lawsuit-court-order/

Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

Posted Wednesday, February 06, 2013-4:07 pm

LOS ANGELES (CNS) – Attorneys representing Michael Jackson’s mother in her lawsuit against the promoters of the concert tour he was preparing for at the time of his 2009 death have obtained a court order directing the coroner’s office to provide copies of slides and X-rays regarding the late singer.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos issued the order Tuesday during an unscheduled hearing, finding that there was good cause to grant the request.     Katherine Jackson, 82, and her late son’s three children allege AEG Live negligently hired Dr. Conrad Murray to care for him. The singer was set to perform 50 shows in London for AEG Live, but died on June 25, 2009, of acute propofol intoxication in Los Angeles while rehearsing for the concert series.

The negligence suit was filed in September 2010 by Katherine Jackson on behalf of herself and grandchildren Michael Jr., Paris-Michael Katherine and Prince Michael.

The Jackson family matriarch’s attorney, Kevin Boyle, stated in his court papers that the items obtained will be helpful in preparing for trial in his clients’ case against AEG Live.

“These materials are undoubtedly relevant to this wrongful death case,” Boyle wrote. “The X-rays and slides will assist counsel and retained experts in presenting trial testimony and performing analyses relating to liability and causation.”

The analyses are necessary because AEG Live disagrees that negligence by Murray, Jackson’s personal physician, caused the pop star’s death and refuses to acknowledge that that the singer himself had no fault for bringing about his own death, according to Boyle’s court papers.

“Accordingly, these X-rays and slides may be used by (plaintiffs’) attorneys and shown to expert witnesses in their preparation of this case,” Boyle wrote.

Murray was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson’s death and was sentenced in November 2011 to four years in the Los Angeles County men’s jail.
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 07, 2013, 03:01:45 PM


X-rays and slides?  Hmm.  Maybe that's a metaphor for making AEG's plans transparent, putting them under the microscope. 

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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 07, 2013, 03:09:26 PM
X-rays? what for?  if there is a autopsy report detailed :confused:

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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 07, 2013, 04:07:11 PM
Hopefully they are being requested for the burden of proof that the autopsied body was not that of Michael.
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 07, 2013, 04:18:36 PM

X-rays and slides?  Hmm.  Maybe that's a metaphor for making AEG's plans transparent, putting them under the microscope.

Maybe. Or alternatively......

"......  AEG Live disagrees that negligence by Murray, Jackson’s personal physician, caused the pop star’s death and refuses to acknowledge that that the singer himself had no fault for bringing about his own death, according to Boyle’s court papers."

In other words, AEG are refusing to acknowledge, aka 'come right out with it' (just yet) and say that no, Murray didn't kill MJ and yes, MJ did bring about his own 'death', aka fake it.

Maybe. I have no idea!  All depends if AEG are in on the hoax or not. In spite of previously thinking they are, and what I just said, I have to add that I'm starting to think, as you are Andrea and others, that they may be not, in which case things suddenly get far more serious.

Well, we'll have to wait and see if this case ever makes it to court and even then I don't know if things will necessarily become any clearer for us.

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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 07, 2013, 04:59:46 PM
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The Jackson legal team disagrees.  They claim to have even more damaging emails and feel very confident in their case against AEG.

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Lloyds claims that AEG didn’t fully disclose Jackson’s medical condition in taking out the policy, and these emails certainly suggest that AEG knew more than it told Lloyds.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/trialandheirs/2012/09/10/is-promoter-aeg-responsible-for-michael-jacksons-death/2/

I keep thinking of the emails which The Jackson legal team claims to have which could be in their favour. It could be that these emails are containing valuable information about medical test results of MJ - although AEG claimed not to have medical reports about his condition. Together with the X rays and slides they might give a strong evidence about MJ's true medical condition and perhaps will prove that AEG knew about these test results but neglected this information and certainly did not inform the insurance company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_test
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 07, 2013, 05:20:35 PM

X-rays and slides?  Hmm.  Maybe that's a metaphor for making AEG's plans transparent, putting them under the microscope.

Maybe. Or alternatively......

"......  AEG Live disagrees that negligence by Murray, Jackson’s personal physician, caused the pop star’s death and refuses to acknowledge that that the singer himself had no fault for bringing about his own death, according to Boyle’s court papers."

In other words, AEG are refusing to acknowledge, aka 'come right out with it' (just yet) and say that no, Murray didn't kill MJ and yes, MJ did bring about his own 'death', aka fake it.

Maybe. I have no idea!  All depends if AEG are in on the hoax or not. In spite of previously thinking they are, and what I just said, I have to add that I'm starting to think, as you are Andrea and others, that they may be not, in which case things suddenly get far more serious.

Well, we'll have to wait and see if this case ever makes it to court and even then I don't know if things will necessarily become any clearer for us.


Yes, it depends if AEG is in on it or not.  I guess it would depend if that contract/agreement was real, meaning that it was what they were planning to do (steal from MJ) and not a hoax "prop" or distraction.  And ya, makes things suddenly far more serious.  But only suddenly to some of us here, it would've been serious from day one (and before) for MJ and his trusted helpers, if AEG is not "in".  If they're not in on it, then it's possible and even likely they became aware of the hoax.  Or not, who knows.  Maybe Murray's trial with all the detailed medical "evidence" and whatnot was mostly sting court, to convince AEG/?? that Michael's death actually occurred. Like TS said, if it was strictly a hoax court, there would be no need for "alleged" in the verdict.


Oh and I just remembered something, wasn't there some guy who tried to sell x-rays of MJ's chest a couple years ago?  Probably unrelated, I think it was a desperate and pathetic grab for money.
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 07, 2013, 05:52:46 PM
I think that if after 4 years still the story goes on with news, the reason is just to continue to keep the focus on Michael  :icon_razz:...and is Michael naturally to want this !  :moonwalk_:
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 07, 2013, 11:47:29 PM
But only suddenly to some of us here, it would've been serious from day one (and before) for MJ and his trusted helpers, if AEG is not "in".  If they're not in on it, then it's possible and even likely they became aware of the hoax.  Or not, who knows.  Maybe Murray's trial with all the detailed medical "evidence" and whatnot was mostly sting court, to convince AEG/?? that Michael's death actually occurred. Like TS said, if it was strictly a hoax court, there would be no need for "alleged" in the verdict.

I'm thinking this as well, that AEG was suspicious of something or possibly a strategic move that had to do with the 'complications' to put AEG in a corner. :icon_question:
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 08, 2013, 05:20:39 AM
Exactly!  Yes, so if AEG is not in, then in this game, both sides have to be aware of what the other side is doing. Each side could be doing bluffs to convince/intimidate the other side (including TS' failed Bam).  Front did call it chess, but that MJ was always moves ahead.

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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 08, 2013, 06:43:47 AM
......  And ya, makes things suddenly far more serious.  But only suddenly to some of us here, it would've been serious from day one (and before) for MJ and his trusted helpers, if AEG is not "in". .......

You know, this past month I have been feeling more and more like I've had things very wrong in my mind thus far, and its made me feel a whole lot of not very nice emotions, too personal to list here. I feel like I need to apologise to a number of people/usernames for maybe not being quite as open minded as I thought I was.  I feel rather small and stupid to be honest.

Sorry, that was rather off topic.  :icon_redface:

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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 08, 2013, 09:02:03 AM


curls, we've all been there.  I don't think it's a matter of being very wrong or stupid, it was misunderstanding or not seeing a bigger picture.  And how could we really, the hoax has been very fun for many of us, maybe that's why the more serious aspects were hard to grasp, being that the serious side always seemed rather vague - like who the bad guys are and what they were trying to do.  I'm doing my best to be open-minded but I know that for certain things, I've dug my heels in and didn't want to budge and I know some of my past theories have been wrong - example, I once thought briefly (and posted) that the ambulance video was filmed on December 21, 2008 :icon_lol: which I know now isn't true.  Being wrong is part of the investigation though because certain possibilities can be eliminated and debunked.

@Mjonmind - TS' "failed" BAM makes much more sense to me now, it was a tactical move and perhaps a way of raising doubts in "their" minds.  And there have been certain things that have happened in the past 3+ years that I've felt have been "them" lashing back at Michael, usually on the tails of some positive Michael/hoax news.  The battle has been on-going.

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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 08, 2013, 09:55:31 AM

curls, we've all been there.  I don't think it's a matter of being very wrong or stupid, it was misunderstanding or not seeing a bigger picture.  And how could we really, the hoax has been very fun for many of us, maybe that's why the more serious aspects were hard to grasp, being that the serious side always seemed rather vague - like who the bad guys are and what they were trying to do.  I'm doing my best to be open-minded but I know that for certain things, I've dug my heels in and didn't want to budge and I know some of my past theories have been wrong - example, I once thought briefly (and posted) that the ambulance video was filmed on December 21, 2008 :icon_lol: which I know now isn't true.  Being wrong is part of the investigation though because certain possibilities can be eliminated and debunked.

@Mjonmind - TS' "failed" BAM makes much more sense to me now, it was a tactical move and perhaps a way of raising doubts in "their" minds.  And there have been certain things that have happened in the past 3+ years that I've felt have been "them" lashing back at Michael, usually on the tails of some positive Michael/hoax news.  The battle has been on-going.

Andrea and to made "them" doubt, Michael has to play with us?? TS could made "them" doubt in a different way than playing with BAM dates and making us feel totally stupid, ignorant and the laughing stock of everybody.

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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 08, 2013, 11:00:46 AM
@Andrea and sweet, thanks guys - you're great!  My feelings (of stupidity or anything else) regarding this hoax, mean nothing compared to MJ's. I hope he feels support from wherever he can get it - this is one heck of an undertaking he embarked on.

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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 08, 2013, 11:02:05 AM
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Andrea and to made "them" doubt, Michael has to play with us?? TS could made "them" doubt in a different way than playing with BAM dates and making us feel totally stupid, ignorant and the laughing stock of everybody.

I was crushed when nothing happened at the end of 2012 but I'm sure the intent wasn't to make us feel stupid, it's a complicated "game" we're playing and nothing is really sharply defined but rather ambiguous.  The hoax can't cater to us, it has it's own missions to fulfil.  I suppose with this ongoing battle we are sometimes caught in the crossfire.  But we're the ones who have placed ourselves there in the first place.

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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 08, 2013, 12:46:43 PM
 :bearhug: Group hug.  We need them once in a while.
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 08, 2013, 03:33:27 PM
We all bought a ticket to ride, and whoever wants to can jump off at any time; I'm hanging on though the ride bumpy (I think Front said that too).
Curls, we've all been there.  I'm just keeping my eyes peeled... And I don't mind being a fool for Michael; as he's been played as a fool by so many, and he's a loving genius!
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 08, 2013, 04:25:12 PM
I've read all your posts on this section... I think I could use a group hug right now...  :D  :bearhug:  :multiplespotting:
I have some moments of doubt, then I get "back on track" only to find out that I get more confused  :( then back on track again....

 :abouttime: I started to leave my confusion behind....
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 08, 2013, 06:01:48 PM
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Andrea and to made "them" doubt, Michael has to play with us?? TS could made "them" doubt in a different way than playing with BAM dates and making us feel totally stupid, ignorant and the laughing stock of everybody.

I was crushed when nothing happened at the end of 2012 but I'm sure the intent wasn't to make us feel stupid, it's a complicated "game" we're playing and nothing is really sharply defined but rather ambiguous.  The hoax can't cater to us, it has it's own missions to fulfil.  I suppose with this ongoing battle we are sometimes caught in the crossfire.  But we're the ones who have placed ourselves there in the first place.

Andrea I agree with you in some things but I keep on thinking that I will never forgive TS or whoever that said BAM was imminent and before Jan 01, 2013, although it was to make "them" doubt, we should have never been dragged to that kind of anxiety and many of us had a real bad time, I, myself, felt devastated by then.
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 08, 2013, 11:28:40 PM
Takes two to tango. We bought a ticket but we got baited into it. Let's be real about this. If this hoax were supposed to be a big dangerous secret, the ambulance wouldn't have backed out of the driveway, Liberian Girl wouldn't have been the theme of the Memorial/Burial, and Joe would know where the body was. 
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 09, 2013, 01:58:02 AM
Sweetsunset, IF Michael is connected to TS/Front, then not forgiving him/them, sounds similar to the deaders saying they would not forgive Michael if he had hoaxed his death, because his ‘death’ hurt them very badly—many grieving hard still to this day.  And if I totally saw the pure truth that TS/Front were unconnected to MJ, yes, I too would be quite upset with them (and mad at myself for getting so emotionally involved).   I realize there’s a lot of quiet on the forum, and perhaps many are trying to deal with how they are feeling about all this.  My own emotions vary a bit from day to day.  This has been hard on all of us.

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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 09, 2013, 03:34:43 AM
I want to say more but I'm conscious that I've taken us very off topic here. Should we/can we take this somewhere else where we can talk more about all this?

In the meantime......

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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 09, 2013, 03:57:27 AM
I want to say more but I'm conscious that I've taken us very off topic here. Should we/can we take this somewhere else where we can talk more about all this?

I think that a  discussion thread could be started under TIAI group on Hoax Book.

Here's my 2 cents while we are off topic here.....I may be quiet, but I am not discouraged, upset or angry. There doesn't seem a lot to look into at the moment...so I simply "keep watching".  I've always been of the opinion that this is a serious situation, and that when Michael finally returned to the States from his exile years after the trial, it was with the purpose to set into play this whole scenario we see unfolding now. Offering himself as the bait to lure some very seedy players out into the sting web. So if this takes longer than anticipated, it doesn't phase me....mainly I am just very thankful that Michael out thought them and he is alive and  safe for now.  That is the most important thing. His safety.


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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 09, 2013, 04:09:08 AM
Thanks RK, I'll start one when I have a bit more time later - unless anyone else wants to in the meanwhile.

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Re: Michael Jackson’s Mom’s Gets Court Favor

  • on: February 09, 2013, 09:45:32 AM
Thanks RK, I'll start one when I have a bit more time later - unless anyone else wants to in the meanwhile.

Please go ahead it's a good idea, maybe we can bring back those members who have given up the forum to discuss it and learn why they left us.
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