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The architect

  • on: January 31, 2013, 03:17:43 PM
I found this..... do you know something?  :icon_rolleyes: :icon_e_geek:
Will be released as you can see from the countdown, to 84 days from now...  :icon_e_confused:


http://jacksondocumentary.com/Jackson_Documentary/Home.html

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Re: The architect

  • on: January 31, 2013, 03:39:58 PM
That’s the documentary Joe mentioned on Piers last night. 
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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Re: The architect

  • on: January 31, 2013, 06:51:46 PM
I found this..... do you know something?  :icon_rolleyes: :icon_e_geek:
Will be released as you can see from the countdown, to 84 days from now...  :icon_e_confused:


http://jacksondocumentary.com/Jackson_Documentary/Home.html

As hes says we were talking about it on the Piers interview to Joe thread but anyway thanks for sharing, we will have to stay tuned by then.

ps: 84 days, that means next April 25, 2013.
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Re: The architect

  • on: January 31, 2013, 11:23:20 PM
is he implying that barry gordy is a gangster?
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Re: The architect

  • on: February 01, 2013, 12:52:07 AM
Did you all see at the end when the blonde guy said he thought Michael staged his death. Really odd to be putting in a film affiliated with Joseph.

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Re: The architect

  • on: February 01, 2013, 02:17:53 AM
is he implying that barry gordy is a gangster?
He has Motown on his cheek in the initial frame.  While he's saying, “You cannot walk away from Motown and get away with it", he's playing with the gun in his hand.  It does switch back and forth a bit in topics to confuse, but then he says he signed a six month contract, then talks about being hit from behind.  Does he say it disfigured him?  Joe really seems like a force to be reckoned with, and I'm sure is either well respected or hated.

From this article it seems Berry Gordie comes from a middle-class and business background, but of course worked hard to get where he did. So I don't think he's in mafia, but perhaps there were many other would-be producers trying to get a cut in.  http://www.helium.com/items/1570484-the-amazing-life-of-berry-gordy

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Re: The architect

  • on: February 01, 2013, 10:34:24 AM
Thanks for posting, Blankie :icon_e_smile:

Back in 2011 there was news about an upcoming documentary of Joe Jackson with the title "Confessions of a father"  http://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/Music/2011/12/02/Joe-Jackson-documentary-coming-in-2012/UPI-60381322857914/?spt=hs&or=en

When I searched for "Confessions of a father" on IMDB this one came up: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2129977/  with the title "The Architect" Is this film already been released in 2012?  :icon_e_confused: Maybe I missed something.

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Re: The architect

  • on: February 01, 2013, 11:47:33 AM
Did you all see at the end when the blonde guy said he thought Michael staged his death. Really odd to be putting in a film affiliated with Joseph.

Yeah, really caught my attention which I think is the purpose for it being there.
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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Re: The architect

  • on: February 01, 2013, 12:34:31 PM
@MJonmind Joe really seems like a force to be reckoned with, and I'm sure is either well respected or hated.

This is EXACTLY why I don't believe it when he said during pierce Morgan's interview, and other family members have said the same thing in past interviews, that: they wouldn't let family near Michael, or I couldn't get to him.  What I understand from all of the interviews the family members have done after 6/25, is that they sensed, felt or heard that Michael needed help, but they couldn't get to him.  This in itself is either one of the many, many reasons I believe in this hoax, or I may be completely wrong and it is instead that none of the family members cared enough about Michael to check on him and find out what the problem is, which I don't believe is the case, and IF THERE EVER WAS A PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH.

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Re: The architect

  • on: February 01, 2013, 08:06:37 PM
Thanks to you all for your answers.  :bearhug:

And...waiting for.... :icon_e_wink:
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Re: The architect

  • on: February 01, 2013, 09:37:44 PM
I just love that page http://jacksondocumentary.com/Jackson_Documentary/Home.html

The life and death of a musical empire. Not the life and death of Michael Jackson.

Very interesting. And of course the countdown. No regular docos have countdowns. Either This is it and we can brace ourselves, or once again they are milking it and playing with us. Hope its the first instance. But these days I don't hold my breath... lol
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Re: The architect

  • on: February 02, 2013, 02:57:45 AM
I just love that page http://jacksondocumentary.com/Jackson_Documentary/Home.html

The life and death of a musical empire. Not the life and death of Michael Jackson.

Very interesting. And of course the countdown. No regular docos have countdowns. Either This is it and we can brace ourselves, or once again they are milking it and playing with us. Hope its the first instance. But these days I don't hold my breath... lol

Sometimes I think all these countdowns are for someone else (not for us or other "random" visitors of the site), like a warning (you only have x days to get something right... if you don't - I'll tell all...) You know what I mean?!  :icon_e_confused:

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Re: The architect

  • on: February 02, 2013, 07:56:58 AM
@ Hopi yes do get what you mean. Interesting take / scenario

Maybe Joe Jackson trying to turn tables / gain some power? Slip in a nice lil threat @ 2 mins 30 re: staging death...

Could be. Unsure. It means that Joe isn't entirely on same team as MJ though. So for he atm doesn't feel right. But I'm open to just about anything these days...

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Re: The architect

  • on: February 02, 2013, 09:57:42 AM
Did you all see at the end when the blonde guy said he thought Michael staged his death. Really odd to be putting in a film affiliated with Joseph.

Yeah, really caught my attention which I think is the purpose for it being there.


Indeed, that would be really out of place and WTF if Michael had actually died.  Especially when followed by "It's Not Over".

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Re: The architect

  • on: February 02, 2013, 10:59:40 AM
is he implying that barry gordy is a gangster?
He has Motown on his cheek in the initial frame.  While he's saying, “You cannot walk away from Motown and get away with it", he's playing with the gun in his hand.  It does switch back and forth a bit in topics to confuse, but then he says he signed a six month contract, then talks about being hit from behind.  Does he say it disfigured him?  Joe really seems like a force to be reckoned with, and I'm sure is either well respected or hated.

From this article it seems Berry Gordie comes from a middle-class and business background, but of course worked hard to get where he did. So I don't think he's in mafia, but perhaps there were many other would-be producers trying to get a cut in.  http://www.helium.com/items/1570484-the-amazing-life-of-berry-gordy

think perhaps the part about being hit on the head is from the story in american dreams when they were coming out from a gig and someone robbed them.
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




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Re: The architect

  • on: February 02, 2013, 12:23:14 PM
@ Hopi yes do get what you mean. Interesting take / scenario

Maybe Joe Jackson trying to turn tables / gain some power? Slip in a nice lil threat @ 2 mins 30 re: staging death...

Could be. Unsure. It means that Joe isn't entirely on same team as MJ though. So for he atm doesn't feel right. But I'm open to just about anything these days...

Well it's just a thought that crossed my mind...
...and it doesn't nessesarily mean that Joe and MJ aren't on the same team - it could be a shout out to someone who is still threatening MJ/his family/someone near to him... But as you said: open about anything these days...

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Re: The architect

  • on: February 04, 2013, 01:58:17 AM
I found the trailer to this documentary rather intriguing. I also wonder what the page titles at the top of the browser window mean. On both the home page and the trailer page, at the very top of the browser window it says "Let the race begin". Looks like another watch and see what happens kinda thing.

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Re: The architect

  • on: February 04, 2013, 04:25:35 AM
I remember that Michael is a fan of the Movie " Matrix " and i found this on wiki...Architect and Matrix....it's all to much for me to understand and i only put it in here.....you all english speaking are easier able to see if there is a any coherence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architect_(The_Matrix)

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Re: The architect

  • on: February 04, 2013, 04:55:09 AM
Underthemoon, to you mean this link? It says Architect is a character in the Matrix trilogy.
Interesting key words, The One, Zion, the Source, etc.
I've never watched the Matrix so I can't say much about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search/Architect_(The_Matrix   (click on Architect (The Matrix) because the link for it won't work.)
All I know is this:
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Re: The architect

  • on: February 04, 2013, 06:00:42 AM
MJonmind, sorry that the link dosn't work...
next try :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architect_(The_Matrix)

When i find the time i have to watch the movie The Matrix....i havn't seen it before, but the writers are the same in V for Vendetta !

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Re: The architect

  • on: March 30, 2013, 01:24:21 PM
I wonder what Joe will tell us....
The countdown ends at the 25 of April, 1400 days and 200 weeks after the 25.June 2009. And it will be full moon at that day....all coincedense, i know...
http://www.jacksondocumentary.com/Jackson_Documentary/Home.html

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Re: The architect

  • on: April 01, 2013, 07:06:46 AM
Thanks Blankie, I remember the story, it was very strange to see Joe with a gun in his hand. Now we have date to see the documentary, keep watching
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Re: The architect

  • on: April 26, 2013, 12:41:17 AM
So according to the countdown on the website this Joe doco is coming up for airing in the next hour or so......anyone know where?...is it a TV thing or a cinema thing?

It has me intrigued - especially the timing conveniently "coinciding" with the AEG trial beginning AND the Appellants Opening Brief for Dr Murray finally being lodged for his appeal just on Monday this week (4/22)

http://jacksondocumentary.com/Jackson_Documentary/Home.html

ADDED: actually I just had a thought after posting the above ^^^ that the countdown clock doesn't actually indicate what it is a countdown for - so I am just making that assumption that is what it is for....it could be something totally else...   :icon_e_confused:
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Re: The architect

  • on: April 26, 2013, 12:59:16 AM
may be a hollow countdown, like TS's lol...

People laugh when I explain. And though they may laugh, that doesn't change the fact that it's still the truth.


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Re: The architect

  • on: April 26, 2013, 02:15:19 AM
may be a hollow countdown, like TS's lol...

Regardless of the countdown clock thingy, presumably the doco is real (?) ....if it is then I wonder where/when/how it's dropping and more interestingly what is contained in it.

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Re: The architect

  • on: April 26, 2013, 03:34:48 AM
lol. yeah, it was tongue in cheek. i am so keen to see the doco. esp the part where the line abt 'staging death' was dropped... and what is so new that will change the way we view the jacksons.... as per some news articles about the doco.

can't wait. yeah, agree with you. funny how no word yet were / how it is being released? no ads on tv. so i assume it is net based? and will it be free?

meanwhile time is up and the clock says 00.00.00.00

i always found it weird how it wasn't called "countdown til doco is released" or similar. the phrase "the race is on" sometimes makes me wonder if there is other stuff going on behind the scene (which there almost always is) and was that why they chose that wording. is that countdown for us, or someone, something else unrelated to doco.

don't want to get all "conspiratory" abt threats / blackmail and such, so i will stop there and assume at this stage the countdown is for the doco.

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Re: The architect

  • on: April 26, 2013, 03:59:06 AM
The race is on....  hmmm... Can't see what that has to do with the docu itself.
Maybe there is something else started at the same time?
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Re: The architect

  • on: April 26, 2013, 04:39:04 AM
Let the race begin!

When I looked up the phrase, this was the 2nd pick. It's probably not related but this zombie race sure looks like a whole lot of fun!
If MJ were in it, I bet he would win hands down!

http://rt.com/news/humans-race-zombies-spain-824/

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Re: The architect

  • on: April 27, 2013, 11:32:54 AM
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Re: The architect

  • on: April 27, 2013, 11:46:50 AM
Publication date: December 31st 2030 ??

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Re: The architect

  • on: April 27, 2013, 11:49:28 AM
Publication date: December 31st 2030 ??
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Re: The architect

  • on: April 27, 2013, 02:02:19 PM
Publication date: December 31st 2030 ??
:icon_eek:  :WTF:

I saw it too, and no image available  :confused:

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Re: The architect

  • on: April 27, 2013, 03:47:37 PM
 :icon_lol: I guess he'll be a ghost-writer by then! Obviously someone's toying with people.

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Re: The architect

  • on: October 29, 2013, 07:31:47 PM
http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/10/28/michael-jackson-joe-jackson-documentary-in-limbo-distributors-despised-him?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=michael-jackson-joe-jackson-documentary-in-limbo-distributors-despised-him

Michael Jackson: Joe Jackson Documentary in Limbo “Distributors Despised Him”

10/28/13 3:26pm Roger Friedman

As Conrad Murray is released from jail today, we thought we’d catch up and find out what ever happened to the memoir and documentary about Joseph Jackson, Michael’s father. There were several announcements in the past about the two projects, called “The Architect,” which were going to explain how the elder Jackson wrought what he did.

According to a former producer on the documentary, George Paige, the documentary is now called “Making Michael.” Paige got out of the project a while ago, he told me, when it became clear that no distributor wanted it. “It’s all told from Joe Jackson’s perspective, and no one was interested. The distributors despised him [when they saw the film].”

Paige says the filmmakers needed $750,000 to finish the film and there was no way to come up with it. “It went back to the original investors, whoever they were.”

The guiding light behind the film, Johnny West, says “Making Michael” will be released “sometime after the first of the year.” He says has a distributor, but doesn’t want to announce who they are yet. West also told me there might be interest from the South by Southwest Film Festival.

In the doc, Paige recalled, Jackson senior reiterated that he and his family felt there was a “conspiracy” to kill Michael. Other than that, “it’s a clip job,” said. West confirmed that none of Michael Jackson’s music is in the film.

Neither of them knew anything about the status of the book called “The Architect,” announced two years ago with Atria/Simon & Schuster. The book isn’t listed anywhere. The editor from Atria has not returned calls. We’ll wait for an update.
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Re: The architect

  • on: October 30, 2013, 01:46:00 AM
http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/10/28/michael-jackson-joe-jackson-documentary-in-limbo-distributors-despised-him?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=michael-jackson-joe-jackson-documentary-in-limbo-distributors-despised-him

Michael Jackson: Joe Jackson Documentary in Limbo “Distributors Despised Him”

10/28/13 3:26pm Roger Friedman

As Conrad Murray is released from jail today, we thought we’d catch up and find out what ever happened to the memoir and documentary about Joseph Jackson, Michael’s father. There were several announcements in the past about the two projects, called “The Architect,” which were going to explain how the elder Jackson wrought what he did.

According to a former producer on the documentary, George Paige, the documentary is now called “Making Michael.” Paige got out of the project a while ago, he told me, when it became clear that no distributor wanted it. “It’s all told from Joe Jackson’s perspective, and no one was interested. The distributors despised him [when they saw the film].”

Paige says the filmmakers needed $750,000 to finish the film and there was no way to come up with it. “It went back to the original investors, whoever they were.”

The guiding light behind the film, Johnny West, says “Making Michael” will be released “sometime after the first of the year.” He says has a distributor, but doesn’t want to announce who they are yet. West also told me there might be interest from the South by Southwest Film Festival.

In the doc, Paige recalled, Jackson senior reiterated that he and his family felt there was a “conspiracy” to kill Michael. Other than that, “it’s a clip job,” said. West confirmed that none of Michael Jackson’s music is in the film.

Neither of them knew anything about the status of the book called “The Architect,” announced two years ago with Atria/Simon & Schuster. The book isn’t listed anywhere. The editor from Atria has not returned calls. We’ll wait for an update.

Changed to Making Michael  :icon_e_confused:  :suspect:  :icon_lol:?? Make that change,make that change......please  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:!!!!!

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Re: The architect

  • on: October 30, 2013, 07:15:25 PM
http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/10/28/michael-jackson-joe-jackson-documentary-in-limbo-distributors-despised-him?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=michael-jackson-joe-jackson-documentary-in-limbo-distributors-despised-him

Michael Jackson: Joe Jackson Documentary in Limbo “Distributors Despised Him”

10/28/13 3:26pm Roger Friedman

As Conrad Murray is released from jail today, we thought we’d catch up and find out what ever happened to the memoir and documentary about Joseph Jackson, Michael’s father. There were several announcements in the past about the two projects, called “The Architect,” which were going to explain how the elder Jackson wrought what he did.

According to a former producer on the documentary, George Paige, the documentary is now called “Making Michael.” Paige got out of the project a while ago, he told me, when it became clear that no distributor wanted it. “It’s all told from Joe Jackson’s perspective, and no one was interested. The distributors despised him [when they saw the film].”

Paige says the filmmakers needed $750,000 to finish the film and there was no way to come up with it. “It went back to the original investors, whoever they were.”

The guiding light behind the film, Johnny West, says “Making Michael” will be released “sometime after the first of the year.” He says has a distributor, but doesn’t want to announce who they are yet. West also told me there might be interest from the South by Southwest Film Festival.

In the doc, Paige recalled, Jackson senior reiterated that he and his family felt there was a “conspiracy” to kill Michael. Other than that, “it’s a clip job,” said. West confirmed that none of Michael Jackson’s music is in the film.

Neither of them knew anything about the status of the book called “The Architect,” announced two years ago with Atria/Simon & Schuster. The book isn’t listed anywhere. The editor from Atria has not returned calls. We’ll wait for an update.

Changed to Making Michael  :icon_e_confused:  :suspect:  :icon_lol:?? Make that change,make that change......please  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:!!!!!


We’ll wait for an update.......and much more....  :icon_lol:  :icon_e_wink:


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Re: The architect

  • on: October 30, 2013, 09:01:06 PM
joe and murray seem to have something in common with the no remorse no apologies for any part they played. nor kate for that matter.
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

 

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