Coroner Van Video

on: January 19, 2013, 10:52:11 AM

You should watch this youtube video, it has to do with the coroner van and helicopter. Amazing video please watch What DID happen on June 25th? Additional video about the helicopterflight!: http://youtu.be/0TbsRWZpVX4

on: January 19, 2013, 03:40:25 PM

Quote from: heartofgold on January 19, 2013, 10:52:11 AM

You should watch this youtube video, it has to do with the coroner van and helicopter. Amazing video please watch What DID happen on June 25th? Additional video about the helicopterflight!: http://youtu.be/0TbsRWZpVX4

Amazing? I don't know. I watched it on our german Hoax Thread today and it didn't give me a good feeling at all... :icon_e_sad:
For me, it clears up many little things that looked strange and "pro Hoax". Or did I get it totally wrong? I mean, LunaJo always goes very deep in her/his videos and especially in this case I thought "Why haven't I looked closer to this? Why did my eyes don't see what the pics can also be looked at or interpreted? Or... didn't I just want to see it? :icon_e_confused:

on: January 19, 2013, 07:00:34 PM

Quote from: Quenchmydesire_MJ on January 19, 2013, 03:40:25 PM

Quote from: heartofgold on January 19, 2013, 10:52:11 AM
You should watch this youtube video, it has to do with the coroner van and helicopter. Amazing video please watch What DID happen on June 25th? Additional video about the helicopterflight!: http://youtu.be/0TbsRWZpVX4

Amazing? I don't know. I watched it on our german Hoax Thread today and it didn't give me a good feeling at all... :icon_e_sad:
For me, it clears up many little things that looked strange and "pro Hoax". Or did I get it totally wrong? I mean, LunaJo always goes very deep in her/his videos and especially in this case I thought "Why haven't I looked closer to this? Why did my eyes don't see what the pics can also be looked at or interpreted? Or... didn't I just want to see it? :icon_e_confused:

I agree with you. I feel She is trying to let us know that what we think we saw is not what we saw. One thing puzzles me why 2 helicopter? Where did the other one go? Can it be the dead body went to the coroner and Mj went to the other helicopter? That for me is very strange. I follow Luna on twitter I asked her this question, hopefully she can let me know more details. I love her videos she is amazing. at least she is giving us the truth.

on: January 19, 2013, 07:30:54 PM

:WTF: So a body that has been cold, dead and stiff 36 hours before is now old ever cold but pliable again? I never heard that before. :omg:

on: January 19, 2013, 08:15:01 PM

Quote from: heartofgold on January 19, 2013, 10:52:11 AM

You should watch this youtube video, it has to do with the coroner van and helicopter. Amazing video please watch What DID happen on June 25th? Additional video about the helicopterflight!: http://youtu.be/0TbsRWZpVX4

I never thought that the man was Ed Winter, he was in the key sites that day.

on: January 19, 2013, 11:20:12 PM

you know , from very early i eagerly awaited luna's next video because she seems to have a lot of good info , but after a while i have started to wonder(and forgive me for putting it this way but:) WHAT THE HELL IS HER POINT ?! :Pulling_hair: she seems to walk the in some gray area and i just don't see how you can go on and on and not draw some kind of conclusion. video after video .

sorry just had to get it out :icon_lol: :-[

on: January 20, 2013, 12:10:26 AM

I read Luna replying to someone asking her this in that last videos comments section and she states she is trying to determine for herself if MJ was murdered or if he escaped. So it seems she is yet undecided.

on: January 20, 2013, 12:52:29 AM

Quote from: RK on January 20, 2013, 12:10:26 AM

I read Luna replying to someone asking her this in that last videos comments section and she states she is trying to determine for herself if MJ was murdered or if he escaped. So it seems she is yet undecided.

Yes, I noticed her hoax within a hoax comment too and also felt she was uncertain in her belief.

on: January 20, 2013, 01:17:48 AM

Quote from: Quenchmydesire_MJ on January 19, 2013, 03:40:25 PM

Quote from: heartofgold on January 19, 2013, 10:52:11 AM
You should watch this youtube video, it has to do with the coroner van and helicopter. Amazing video please watch What DID happen on June 25th? Additional video about the helicopterflight!: http://youtu.be/0TbsRWZpVX4

Amazing? I don't know. I watched it on our german Hoax Thread today and it didn't give me a good feeling at all... :icon_e_sad:
For me, it clears up many little things that looked strange and "pro Hoax". Or did I get it totally wrong? I mean, LunaJo always goes very deep in her/his videos and especially in this case I thought "Why haven't I looked closer to this? Why did my eyes don't see what the pics can also be looked at or interpreted? Or... didn't I just want to see it? :icon_e_confused:

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. The video didn't give me a good feeling either because it seemed to answer some of the doubts that I've had. Yet, how does one explain all of the other oddities? The trash cans on the wrong day, the animals in the courtroom, DaveDave on LKL, the ambulance photo? There is still so much that hasn't been answered so I will hold out hope. I cannot believe that Michael allowed himself to be put out by propofol.

Blessings

on: January 20, 2013, 01:30:01 AM

But why can't that be the DWD body (he may not be 'fake informer' about everything)? Nothing saying it is MJ's.

on: January 20, 2013, 10:04:07 AM

Quote from: Quenchmydesire_MJ on January 19, 2013, 03:40:25 PM

Quote from: heartofgold on January 19, 2013, 10:52:11 AM
You should watch this youtube video, it has to do with the coroner van and helicopter. Amazing video please watch What DID happen on June 25th? Additional video about the helicopterflight!: http://youtu.be/0TbsRWZpVX4

Amazing? I don't know. I watched it on our german Hoax Thread today and it didn't give me a good feeling at all... :icon_e_sad:
For me, it clears up many little things that looked strange and "pro Hoax". Or did I get it totally wrong? I mean, LunaJo always goes very deep in her/his videos and especially in this case I thought "Why haven't I looked closer to this? Why did my eyes don't see what the pics can also be looked at or interpreted? Or... didn't I just want to see it? :icon_e_confused:

Luna's videos are so relevant and great , but sometimes I can not really decipher what she tries to convey . It seems -as many said before - that she , herself , isn't so sure about her theory , and it sounds as if she's trying to debunk the corpse theory . Yet , I now believe that the guy is Ed Winter since the presence of Thome Thome in a such seen is so irrelevant to the hoax .

on: January 20, 2013, 03:20:12 PM

Quote from: RK on January 20, 2013, 12:10:26 AM

I read Luna replying to someone asking her this in that last videos comments section and she states she is trying to determine for herself if MJ was murdered or if he escaped. So it seems she is yet undecided.

Hey, and for me that is totally ok, really. Because the last thing I want is to be blinded by the lights of wishing something and close my eyes for the truth. :icon_exclaim:
She definitely has my respect for her detailed researches and I think this can only help. But yes, in this case her research just hurts a little bit my (sometimes) desperate hoax-heart... :icon_e_wink:

And yes, there are still a lot of other little pieces to this puzzle and "coincidents" left. I just hope that I or we haven't been blind for the truth and only see what we want to see... :suspect:

Sorry, I think I'm just in a sentimental and weak mood... because after all, I still got that feeling deep in my heart, that is positiv and that the truth will be prevailed soon.

on: January 20, 2013, 08:05:16 PM

It is normal Ed Winter was the June 25 in the house and then at the hospital? :icon_question:

on: January 20, 2013, 11:50:10 PM

Quote from: RK on January 20, 2013, 12:10:26 AM

I read Luna replying to someone asking her this in that last videos comments section and she states she is trying to determine for herself if MJ was murdered or if he escaped. So it seems she is yet undecided.

[size=18pt]You are absolutely right, lots of people think she is becoming a non believer, but then again, her video are instructive> Maybe by focusing on these information we can find out more[/size].

on: January 21, 2013, 12:35:13 AM

Quote from: heartofgold on January 20, 2013, 11:50:10 PM

Quote from: RK on January 20, 2013, 12:10:26 AM
I read Luna replying to someone asking her this in that last videos comments section and she states she is trying to determine for herself if MJ was murdered or if he escaped. So it seems she is yet undecided.

[size=18pt]You are absolutely right, lots of people think she is becoming a non believer, but then again, her video are instructive> Maybe by focusing on these information we can find out more[/size].

Yes I agree. I love her videos. So I will continue to watch them because of their indepth analysis.
@Quenchmydesire.....I am okay with that also.....except I don't even consider that He passed.

on: January 21, 2013, 06:05:51 AM

LunaJo has never said that she is a believer, she just want to find out what the cause of the ,,death ,, of MJ is not correct.
I like her videos too, they are very informative, but sometimes I do wonder, how she comes to this information and adresses.

on: January 22, 2013, 07:04:43 AM

k i am a bit puzzled. the helicoptor with the body left the hospital. they brought the body directly out of the building loaded it and it left. then they flew to the coronors office building, landed and put the body in a van. why were they not able to go straight into a building with it? was it that much of a rarity that there was no landing area at that building? lets say there is a bad accident and a person is taking by care flight to a hospital but dies before they can get there. do they have to land at the hospital anyway or can they go on to the coronors? does it matter? i don't know but this seems kind of mayberrish for the location.

on: January 22, 2013, 12:49:55 PM

Why did they need a helicopter anyway if the patient was already deceased :icon_e_confused: Wasn’t like time was of any essence at that point, not even for the family. Seems if a helicopter would have been used, it would have been upon leaving the home & heading to the hospital; not leaving the hospital heading to the morgue. That’s why that video seems all the more suspicious. Had to have that step in there for it to work.

on: January 22, 2013, 01:34:36 PM

The helicopter added the element of drama, a visual and a surrealness to what was happening. It also created a massive distraction if MJ was at the hospital and had to leave unnoticed.

on: January 22, 2013, 01:40:09 PM

Exactly Andrea, a needed distraction.

on: January 22, 2013, 04:57:14 PM

Quote from: hesouttamylife on January 22, 2013, 01:40:09 PM

Exactly Andrea, a needed distraction.

It has to be just for a distraction because as you well said on the above post if the body was already cold why should they need that helicopter to transport Michael's body? they should use it to pick him up from Carolwood to arrive quickly to UCLA and be able to revive him, so hesoutta good catch.

on: January 23, 2013, 01:36:17 AM

Yes, the magician's slight of hand.
LaToya said, "It's so sad. But you have to remember that it's like a magic trick. We're all watching this, when everything’s happening over here. It's like a conspiracy. This is conspiracy. This is Murray. You'll find out."

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENozmqnObZQ[/youtube]

Quote from: Andrea on January 22, 2013, 01:34:36 PM

The helicopter added the element of drama, a visual and a surrealness to what was happening. It also created a massive distraction if MJ was at the hospital and had to leave unnoticed.

Like this? :icon_lol:

on: January 23, 2013, 02:06:38 AM

LaToya said, "It's so sad. But you have to remember that it's like a magic trick. We're all watching this, when everything’s happening over here. It's like a conspiracy. This is conspiracy. This is Murray. You'll find out."

I have been meaning to bring this up for a while now, it's just been bugging me, when LaToya says "You'll find out." Jermaine has said the same thing in his interviews, so has Rebbie, they have said "we know what it is, but we can't say yet and you'll find out."

I wonder when that's going to be...

Something stinks big time...

on: January 23, 2013, 07:16:14 PM

Quote from: Andrea on January 22, 2013, 01:34:36 PM

The helicopter added the element of drama, a visual and a surrealness to what was happening. It also created a massive distraction if MJ was at the hospital and had to leave unnoticed.

Totally agree :icon_e_wink:

on: January 24, 2013, 07:49:53 AM

i think the reason given for the helecoptor was that it would be such a mess trying to get him out at ground level. well this is hollywood, wouldn't it be a mess at other times to try and get a celebraty body out? so again if we have the helicoptor why can't they go straight into the building?