Excerpts from Arnold Klein´s book ”Michael Jackson: The truth will set you free”

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So Arnie starts posting excerpts from his book on his website.

Here´s the one of today. Caption: Howard Weitzman and his best friend Harvey Levin or how you buy tourist buses in LA

http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1097

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Howard Weitzman and Harvey Levin Part Part 1

While covering the O.J. Simpson case for KCBS-TV in Los Angeles, Levin reported that prosecutor Marcia Clark had entered Simpson’s residence before a search warrant had been executed. When Levin was proven wrong, he attempted to blame his mistake on a technician who “mis-timed” the video’s clock during the editing process, however the original lawyer was Howard Weitzman! His action almost got the case dismissed.

 
Howard Weitzman and Harvey Levin Part 2

TMZ posted my totally incorrect illegally released medical records of Michael Jackson on TV as the lawyers were settling MJJ’s estate with a Will that is absolutely erroneous. It was signed on 7/7/02 in LA while Mjj, Al Sharpton and I were were in New York and Michael was speaking in Harlem.

 
from”Michael Jackson: The truth will set you free”

I just thought I´d post this, maybe there is more to come soon  :icon_e_wink:
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WOW   :icon_twisted:
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Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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So Arnie starts posting excerpts from his book on his website.

Here´s the one of today. Caption: Howard Weitzman and his best friend Harvey Levin or how you buy tourist buses in LA

http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1097

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Howard Weitzman and Harvey Levin Part Part 1

While covering the O.J. Simpson case for KCBS-TV in Los Angeles, Levin reported that prosecutor Marcia Clark had entered Simpson’s residence before a search warrant had been executed. When Levin was proven wrong, he attempted to blame his mistake on a technician who “mis-timed” the video’s clock during the editing process, however the original lawyer was Howard Weitzman! His action almost got the case dismissed.

 
Howard Weitzman and Harvey Levin Part 2

TMZ posted my totally incorrect illegally released medical records of Michael Jackson on TV as the lawyers were settling MJJ’s estate with a Will that is absolutely erroneous. It was signed on 7/7/02 in LA while Mjj, Al Sharpton and I were were in New York and Michael was speaking in Harlem.

 
from”Michael Jackson: The truth will set you free”

I just thought I´d post this, maybe there is more to come soon  :icon_e_wink:









And continues the diatribe by the will

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So Arnie starts posting excerpts from his book on his website.

Here´s the one of today. Caption: Howard Weitzman and his best friend Harvey Levin or how you buy tourist buses in LA

http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1097

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Howard Weitzman and Harvey Levin Part Part 1

While covering the O.J. Simpson case for KCBS-TV in Los Angeles, Levin reported that prosecutor Marcia Clark had entered Simpson’s residence before a search warrant had been executed. When Levin was proven wrong, he attempted to blame his mistake on a technician who “mis-timed” the video’s clock during the editing process, however the original lawyer was Howard Weitzman! His action almost got the case dismissed.

 
Howard Weitzman and Harvey Levin Part 2

TMZ posted my totally incorrect illegally released medical records of Michael Jackson on TV as the lawyers were settling MJJ’s estate with a Will that is absolutely erroneous. It was signed on 7/7/02 in LA while Mjj, Al Sharpton and I were were in New York and Michael was speaking in Harlem.

 
from”Michael Jackson: The truth will set you free”

I just thought I´d post this, maybe there is more to come soon  :icon_e_wink:

Thanks Maryk, brings hope to see Klein  :icon_e_smile:s

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From his other writings/rants, he seems so all over the place, making it hard to believe everything/anything he says. He's really brainy though.

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Klein is a very intelligent man.
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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Well that is an interesting title he gave to his book at least. "Michael Jackson. The truth will set you free"
I'd read your book Arnie.

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…however, intelligence sometimes sends one over the edge of madness.  I hope Arnie isn’t slipping into darkness.  Some of his rants are absolutely off the meter.
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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…however, intelligence sometimes sends one over the edge of madness.  I hope Arnie isn’t slipping into darkness.  Some of his rants are absolutely off the meter.

Agree with you.
I hope he is  not trying advertising ....  :icon_rolleyes:
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…however, intelligence sometimes sends one over the edge of madness.  I hope Arnie isn’t slipping into darkness.  Some of his rants are absolutely off the meter.

Agree with you.
I hope he is  not trying advertising ....  :icon_rolleyes:
Thats my impression,he is trying to promote his book.I dont trust the guy,and i dont find him credible at all.
MJ u are so beautiful,inside and out,u truly are a gift from God.I love u,brother.

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This is his latest entry with some surprising information...

The Truth: I was never bankrupt and the embezzlers reported me to the Medical Investigator!

Posted on August 26, 2012 by AWKMD

The Truth is I was never bankrupt but  I was embezzled primarily by Muhammad Khilji and Jason Pfeiffer.I reported my huge embezzlement to the Beverly Hills Police, Laguna Beach Police as well as eventually the LAPD. I was then told by 3 bankruptcy attorneys the quickest way to have my case heard was by declaring bankruptcy.  Once in bankruptcy court Judge Richard Neiter and my Attorney David Neal( who guaranteed my cases would be swiftly heard) I learned held Stock in Private Bank  of California. This is the  very same bank through which most of my funds were embezzled. Long before he admitted he held stock In Private Bank of California Judge Neiter  bifurcated my case such that after a year and a half not a single adversarial case has been heard. While Neiter should have recused himself  he just moved the bankrutcy forward. While I begged my attorneys to do so not a single one has shown the integrity, moral principles and honesty to ask for his recusal. Then based on a totally fraudulent loan (I never signed it, it has the wrong  address of my Laguna house, is made by a lawyer I never hired and is based on an illegal attempted  sale of my home, ) Judge Neiter  appointed a Trustee, Bradly Sharp. My Attorney at the time Peter Lively I later learned was in collusion with the Trustee when together they with held my SSI. When Nieter appointed a Trustee he accused me of living “High on the Hog.” Of all the horrific  events that have occurred during this totally insane bankruptcy the verbal racist ridicule directed at me by Judge Richard Neiter is the most vile and painful of them all. According to Jewish law, pork is one of a number of foods forbidden from consumption by Jews. These foods are known as “non-kosher” foods. In order for a meat to be kosher, it must first come from a kosher animal. A kosher animal must be a ruminant and have split hooves therefore cows, sheep, goats and deer are all kosher, whereas camels and pigs (having each only one sign of kashrut) are not kosher.The pig is the only common livestock animal that has split hooves but which is not a ruminant – its external aspect makes it appear kosher, while it is not. During the persecutions of Antiochus IV Epiphanes, the Greeks forced the Jews to slaughter pigs in the Jerusalem temple, which did not improve the image of pork. Moreover, the Roman legion X Fretensis, that undertook the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple in 68, had a boar for an emblem, sealing its fate as a symbol of everything contrary to Judaism. Maimonides, the Jewish philosopher and legal codifier, who was also court physician to the Muslim sultan Saladin in the twelfth century, understands the dietary laws chiefly as a means of keeping the body healthy. He argued that the meat of the forbidden animals, birds, and fish is unwholesome and indigestible. According to Maimonides, at first glance, this does not apply to pork, which does not appear to be harmful. Yet, Maimonides observes, the pig is a filthy animal and if swine were used for food, marketplaces and even houses would be dirtier than latrines. Stewart Lee Allen, In” the Devil’s Garden: A Sinful History of Forbidden Food.”  relates  to the torment of European Jews (by the use of and reference to pigs andpork) by the Catholic Church, particularly during the Spanish Inquisition, right down to Hitler and his Nazis. . During the Bankruptcy hearing when Judge Neiter accused me of “Living high on the Hog” as the son of an Orthodox Rabbi this was singularly the worst verbal insult I have ever experienced. To follow this with  his totally  unsupported  appointment of a Trustee who has gone on to illegally withhold  both my critical medication and my living expenses has made me wonder at times if I am not in Auschwitz like Ellie Weisel with the number A-7713 tatooed on my arm. I am Arnold W. Klein, M.D., the doctor  who  pioneered the entire field of cosmetic dermatology and has raised over $300 million for HIV research. I have raised millions for breast cancer research and I was a member of the group that the discovered the first human gene. I have maintained a successful practice for more than 37 years and  will not let this dishonest judge take everything I own and throw me on the streets. Just remember the man who they allowed to embezzle my funds is a Pakistani National who was working in tandem with a Muslim who is head of a group affiliated with Hamas. They were allowed to commit bank fraud. This is exactly why we have banking laws against fraud  and how 9/11 and Mumbai were financed!        Now if you look at the Website of Private Bank of California  you will see among their directors members of a law firm Ziffren, Brittenham, Branca. Yes this is John Branca who signed Michael during the last few days of his life. And this is very same Attorney Mr Jackson fired in 20o2 because of total dishonesty. Regarding reports about me to the Medical Board  were do to the actions of Jason Pfeiffer,Muhammad Khilji and David Rish. I have reported them all  for violating HIPAA and getting Kimberly Wilson to investigate me based on totally spurious claims regarding my health. If the above was not enough Bradly Sharp the Trustee appointed by Neiter  has illegally  claimed a painting owned by my corporation with the assistance of the Asst. District Attorney of LA. Also Bradly Sharp and my bankruptcy  attorney Peter Lively have illegally  withheld my SSI causing an emergency hospitalization While Chartis my insurance company  had been paying my alternative living expenses (ALE)which have no limit according to my policy.  However, when Bradly Sharp became the  Trustee he swiftly fired Jeremy Oscher and caused my ALE to stop.  I was forced to move into another residence  70 miles from my office, while my Aunt Helene must live in the apartment over the garage at the So. Windsor home that has yet to be restored from the fire. .However because of electrical problems with no air conditioning the temperature in that apartment has risen to over 100 degrees. The work men, or others, who were up there have also left it total filthy. I now have a 76 year old aunt who cannot remain in this location because of the heat and she is unable to navigate the stairs. Furthermore the Trustee  Bradley Sharp has totally halted the rebuilding of my  residence at 553 S Windsor Blvd. If this sounds like a terrible tale my work is better than ever and with a few incredible friends like Frank Gehry,John Baldessari, Cher, David Rae, David Geffen and Richard and Laurie Stark. I know their is  a light that will lead out of this situation. What they want to stop is the book I have already written. I was close to many people in my life and plan to continue my work until they drag me away.  The Book about Michael is done and all the lies they said about me were to prevent me from writing it. He was a gifted  genius in the fields of  dance, music and performance art but they took advantage of him. They are again  trying to take advantage of me again just like Irena Medavoy. Well I have strength and will survive. As per Brian Lourde please don’t blame Carrie just ask her for the truth if you even remember what that is these days? Maybe your dear friends Phillip Frederick  Anschutz and his wife  Nancy know the answer.

 http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1099
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Thanks for posting 2good2btrue  ;D

It was a really interesting read.

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Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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This is his latest entry with some surprising information...

The Truth: I was never bankrupt and the embezzlers reported me to the Medical Investigator!

Posted on August 26, 2012 by AWKMD

The Truth is I was never bankrupt but  I was embezzled primarily by Muhammad Khilji and Jason Pfeiffer.I reported my huge embezzlement to the Beverly Hills Police, Laguna Beach Police as well as eventually the LAPD. I was then told by 3 bankruptcy attorneys the quickest way to have my case heard was by declaring bankruptcy.  Once in bankruptcy court Judge Richard Neiter and my Attorney David Neal( who guaranteed my cases would be swiftly heard) I learned held Stock in Private Bank  of California. This is the  very same bank through which most of my funds were embezzled. Long before he admitted he held stock In Private Bank of California Judge Neiter  bifurcated my case such that after a year and a half not a single adversarial case has been heard. While Neiter should have recused himself  he just moved the bankrutcy forward. While I begged my attorneys to do so not a single one has shown the integrity, moral principles and honesty to ask for his recusal. Then based on a totally fraudulent loan (I never signed it, it has the wrong  address of my Laguna house, is made by a lawyer I never hired and is based on an illegal attempted  sale of my home, ) Judge Neiter  appointed a Trustee, Bradly Sharp. My Attorney at the time Peter Lively I later learned was in collusion with the Trustee when together they with held my SSI. When Nieter appointed a Trustee he accused me of living “High on the Hog.” Of all the horrific  events that have occurred during this totally insane bankruptcy the verbal racist ridicule directed at me by Judge Richard Neiter is the most vile and painful of them all. According to Jewish law, pork is one of a number of foods forbidden from consumption by Jews. These foods are known as “non-kosher” foods. In order for a meat to be kosher, it must first come from a kosher animal. A kosher animal must be a ruminant and have split hooves therefore cows, sheep, goats and deer are all kosher, whereas camels and pigs (having each only one sign of kashrut) are not kosher.The pig is the only common livestock animal that has split hooves but which is not a ruminant – its external aspect makes it appear kosher, while it is not. During the persecutions of Antiochus IV Epiphanes, the Greeks forced the Jews to slaughter pigs in the Jerusalem temple, which did not improve the image of pork. Moreover, the Roman legion X Fretensis, that undertook the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple in 68, had a boar for an emblem, sealing its fate as a symbol of everything contrary to Judaism. Maimonides, the Jewish philosopher and legal codifier, who was also court physician to the Muslim sultan Saladin in the twelfth century, understands the dietary laws chiefly as a means of keeping the body healthy. He argued that the meat of the forbidden animals, birds, and fish is unwholesome and indigestible. According to Maimonides, at first glance, this does not apply to pork, which does not appear to be harmful. Yet, Maimonides observes, the pig is a filthy animal and if swine were used for food, marketplaces and even houses would be dirtier than latrines. Stewart Lee Allen, In” the Devil’s Garden: A Sinful History of Forbidden Food.”  relates  to the torment of European Jews (by the use of and reference to pigs andpork) by the Catholic Church, particularly during the Spanish Inquisition, right down to Hitler and his Nazis. . During the Bankruptcy hearing when Judge Neiter accused me of “Living high on the Hog” as the son of an Orthodox Rabbi this was singularly the worst verbal insult I have ever experienced. To follow this with  his totally  unsupported  appointment of a Trustee who has gone on to illegally withhold  both my critical medication and my living expenses has made me wonder at times if I am not in Auschwitz like Ellie Weisel with the number A-7713 tatooed on my arm. I am Arnold W. Klein, M.D., the doctor  who  pioneered the entire field of cosmetic dermatology and has raised over $300 million for HIV research. I have raised millions for breast cancer research and I was a member of the group that the discovered the first human gene. I have maintained a successful practice for more than 37 years and  will not let this dishonest judge take everything I own and throw me on the streets. Just remember the man who they allowed to embezzle my funds is a Pakistani National who was working in tandem with a Muslim who is head of a group affiliated with Hamas. They were allowed to commit bank fraud. This is exactly why we have banking laws against fraud  and how 9/11 and Mumbai were financed!        Now if you look at the Website of Private Bank of California  you will see among their directors members of a law firm Ziffren, Brittenham, Branca. Yes this is John Branca who signed Michael during the last few days of his life. And this is very same Attorney Mr Jackson fired in 20o2 because of total dishonesty. Regarding reports about me to the Medical Board  were do to the actions of Jason Pfeiffer,Muhammad Khilji and David Rish. I have reported them all  for violating HIPAA and getting Kimberly Wilson to investigate me based on totally spurious claims regarding my health. If the above was not enough Bradly Sharp the Trustee appointed by Neiter  has illegally  claimed a painting owned by my corporation with the assistance of the Asst. District Attorney of LA. Also Bradly Sharp and my bankruptcy  attorney Peter Lively have illegally  withheld my SSI causing an emergency hospitalization While Chartis my insurance company  had been paying my alternative living expenses (ALE)which have no limit according to my policy.  However, when Bradly Sharp became the  Trustee he swiftly fired Jeremy Oscher and caused my ALE to stop.  I was forced to move into another residence  70 miles from my office, while my Aunt Helene must live in the apartment over the garage at the So. Windsor home that has yet to be restored from the fire. .However because of electrical problems with no air conditioning the temperature in that apartment has risen to over 100 degrees. The work men, or others, who were up there have also left it total filthy. I now have a 76 year old aunt who cannot remain in this location because of the heat and she is unable to navigate the stairs. Furthermore the Trustee  Bradley Sharp has totally halted the rebuilding of my  residence at 553 S Windsor Blvd. If this sounds like a terrible tale my work is better than ever and with a few incredible friends like Frank Gehry,John Baldessari, Cher, David Rae, David Geffen and Richard and Laurie Stark. I know their is  a light that will lead out of this situation. What they want to stop is the book I have already written. I was close to many people in my life and plan to continue my work until they drag me away.  The Book about Michael is done and all the lies they said about me were to prevent me from writing it. He was a gifted  genius in the fields of  dance, music and performance art but they took advantage of him. They are again  trying to take advantage of me again just like Irena Medavoy. Well I have strength and will survive. As per Brian Lourde please don’t blame Carrie just ask her for the truth if you even remember what that is these days? Maybe your dear friends Phillip Frederick  Anschutz and his wife  Nancy know the answer.

 http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1099

2good Thanks very interesting post, but do not believe anything Klein, still remember the publication of TMZ "Arnie Klein - My Buddy Was Not Michael's Lover"  :Pulling_hair:

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Well this is not a book excerpt but something he posted on his FB account.
Thought I might put that here, since it´s about "The truth will set you free".

It´s about a question someone asked him and his answer to that:

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Michael Jackson: The truth will set him free!

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Submitted on 2012/09/19 at 4:34 pm
Dr. Klein, your heading is confusing people. Reading your content, what does it have to do with Michael Jackson’s Death? I can’t make any sense here, of the connection!

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The bank through which my funds were embezzled PRIVATE BANK OF CALIFORNIA(PBC) has as 2 of its directors members of a law firm by the Name: Ziffren-Brittenham- Branca. John Branca is the lawyer who currently represents the Michael Jackson Estate. This authority has been questioned by many. I entered bankruptcy court after I had 20 million dollars embezzled with the major venue being PBC. I entered Bankruptcy court in order for my cases to be heard. the Judge Richard Neiter then would not allow a single case of mine to be heard but appointed a Trustee Bradley Sharp who withheld my vital. medication This resulted in a Catastrophic illness. i was very close to Michael and know a great deal about the events surrounding his final days when he resigned with Branca.. This information is known by very few but may have a disastrous effect on John Branca’s right to represent the Jackson Estate. To be totally clear my Judge Richard also also owns interest in this Bank. Please look at this link http://www.mj-777.com/?p=2759 . They would probably prefer I was not around to reveal what I know about his final days.

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Submitted on 2012/09/19 at 6:02 am
We support you Arnie…I believe you know too much about what happened to you friend MJ, and now they are after you…This is bigger than you realise…Once they strip you of all your money, and then spread malicious rumours to destroy your reputation, they have you in such a vulnerable state that you are so vulnerable…and are left with nothing..!! You know there are many corrupt police and lawyers in USA…Its a conspiracy…..Just like MJ warned us about…He keep fighting even though they robbed him and still continue to rob his MOther, and children…Stay safe Arnie…Thanks for sharing this with us…

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A post from Arnie titled "Art or Soup: How one collects art and artists." Dated October 7, 2012.



In her great one woman show “The search for signs of intelligent life in the universe” Lily Tomlin appears as a homeless person with a shopping cart holding a can of Campbell’s Soup asking the audience “is this soup or is this art…soup or art.”

As a freshman at Penn I remember the arrival of Andy Warhol together with Edith Sedgwick. They had come to introduce his Pop Art. Joan Kron (now one of the editors of Allure) had staged the show and to me it was revolutionary. With his philosophy “Everything is beautiful, Pop is everything” he took elements of everyday life and created art.
Later, during my undergraduate years I would study in a tower that overlooked the Alfred Newton Richard’s Medical Building designed by Louie Kahn. It was not a traditional structure but perched on cement columns hung like an alien spacecraft over the campus. Later I would get to know this mighty wizard of design. Finally as I entered the great rotunda of the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine the mighty image of the Agnew Clinic by Thomas Eakens, one of America’s few indisputably great painters cast its intimidating gaze on me. Medical school was not the best of times for me (I lost my Father and brother). I went to Europe after my third year and had decided that psychiatry would be my specialty. Nevertheless, this would soon change. I still remember the moment. . I was both astonished and amazed by the singular ability of an English Dermatologists to diagnose a barbiturate overdose from visual patterns on the skin. Dermatology became a real possibility and ultimately a reality. I started my Dermatology Residency at Penn where I met the incredible mind of of Albert Kligman. Somewhere in everyone’s life is a revolutionary individual who inspires you to be the better than you can. Professor Kligman was such a person for me. Nevertheless, the west coast still remained in my mind. During my internship in Los Angeles I found a degree of intellectual freedom
I had never experienced in the East. Also, the ambient light was visually stimulating. I still remember seeing the work of Ed Moses. He was profiled in Newsweek but to see his work in person with the artist was quite unique. I decided to transfer to UCLA to complete my training; little did I know that transferring residences was almost unheard of at that time. Furthermore I found UCLA Dermatology program to almost be a surgical specialty. I even dreamed one night they did appendectomies. I went on to become Chief Resident and published an article with the late great Victor Newcomber.
When I completed my residency Beverly Hills was the place the best doctors seemed to congregate.. While
I was told there was no room or young doctors and I would starve I beg and borrowed and finally found a 700 sq ft space in BH. I went from door to door introducing myself to anyone who would meet me and soon with the help of Retin-A I was fixing acne without light treatments or Voodoo . Soon I met Irene Dunne,Lana Turner,Loretta Young Henrty Fonda,Freddy Mercury, and eventually Popes,Presidents,Kings and real Queens. Certainly there were World Champion Athletes, a few Nobel Prize Winners (I have two in my family ) and many many more. It was through my relationship with Marcia Weisman (Norton Simon’s Sister) I met the world of art (some of which were performers too!), Frank Gehry, Irving Penn, Ellsworth Kelly, Bob Graham, Ed Ruscha, David Hockney, Herb Ritss, Eric Orr, Chuck Close, Roy Lichtenstein, Jenny Holzer, Angelo Donghia, Michael Taylor, Charles and Ray Eames, Rose Tarlow, George Nelson, Phillipe Starck, Marcel Wanders, Ron Ronzek, Cher, Carrie Fisher, Penny Marshall,Frank Pollaro ,Jennifer Jones Simon, Waldo Fernandez and many many others would revolutionize the way I looked at Art and Architecture. Soon my house was overflowing with art and furniture. I was a collector! I must admit it was truly the relationship with my dear friend John Baldessari (from whom sprung David Salle and Cyndi Sherman) that began in 1978 that would ultimately define my vision of the art world. Equally important was my cousin Lisa Lyon’s relationship with Robert Mapplethorpe (his book” Lady”) and Jean Michel Basquiat that dragged me further into the world of art. It seems just yesterday I was discussing with Jean Michel how his broken arm and splenectomy from a car accident had shaped his life. Milton Wexler also taught me an incredible lesson. Never charge a person of the arts but trade services with them. You too have become an artist at the level you practice medicine.

We are now in the 21st century and art and medicine have become profoundly similar. The best of each arises from human creativity. Medicine at its best is raised to an art form. Indeed, medicine often inspires creativity in artists as seen in the works of everyone from Leonardo da Vinci to Keith Haring. Dermatology has now become a field in which Minimally Invasive Aesthetic Enhancement has defined my existence since 1979. How strange it is to have developed something when it was a vocation and avocation at the same time. Many individuals put a value judgment on this and attack it in a manner similar to behavior of Savonarola’s in Florence in the late 1400′s (the original “Bonfire of the Vanities).” In my article “Bonfire of the Wrinkles” I noted all too well how David Kessler had attempted at great cost to save the world from Breast Implants. As for my relationship with Carrie Fisher it really began at a party at Cher’s birthday. Everyone greeted me that night with an air kiss but she put her arms around my neck and gave me a big long hug. Well she and I have been attached ever since.
Well, that was then and this is now. I have survived the Botox lawsuit, my nurse’s marriage, and all those who have imitated and will imitate me.” Most recently the loss of my dear friend Elizabeth Taylor and the horrific death of the treasured Michael Jackson has left me scared in many ways. To be needlessly and unfairly attacked by the sensationalistic media is something no one wants. Just remember what Mr. Jackson once told me, “Greed Kills.” Mr. Jackson also showed me how to take vicious attacks and flip them into positive energy that further increases your ability and distance between you and your competitors;
this is how one becomes absolutely incomparable! In 2008 L’uomo Vogue named me one of the 10 best Architects in the world calling me ‘’’a modern day Leonardo’s DaVinci’s whose work on the human structure stands out as one of his greatest accomplishments as his inventing scissors. His insight into the correct proportions of the human face is a testament to his genius as well as yours Dr Klein.” Just remember what my friend Mr Lennon once said to me “love is like a precious plant. You can’t just accept it and leave it in the cupboard or just think it’s going to get on by itself. You’ve got to keep watering it. You’ve got to really look after it and nurture it. “ Now kiss whoever is next to you, give them a hug and realize what I long known the world will soon learn. As Albert Einstein once said
Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods. Well you have certainly have heard alot of lies about me lately but think. In 2007 I owned my homes, had no debt, had taken on the FDA, The Botox trial. And HIV …..

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I love Basquiat.  His short life was tragic but he was a genius and very good friend to Andy Warhol.  The story of his life and his rise and fall in the art world is amazing.  Drugs were his fall from grace.  He died of an overdose of herione at the age of 27 following the death of his best friend, Andy, the year prior.  He was amazing.

So Arnie knew him… I would love to delve into his brain about a few things  :ghsdf:
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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Is it just me or does Dr Klein seem to mesh several thoughts into one? It's confusing, scary, unbelievable, and thought provoking all in one. "If" this is true how is it possible that Dr Klein cannot get his attorney's (or one like T.M.) to go to bat for him or even take this to a higher court? It also seems as though Dr Klein is fighting this battle alone (again, if this is true).

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Yes @voice.....a meshing of [more than] several thoughts. Soup or art? Stew maybe, as it is all thrown in together into the one pot and set to simmer.
Arnie has posted another tweet in regard to his book today.
https://twitter.com/awkmd/status/255394951167369217/photo/1

The story is written, soon it will be in yo hands.


The parallels in these stories is not lost on me.....
being sold out by ex-employees
lurid details about Arnie's /MJ's private lives
media slander and mockery
shared love of art....both collectors of art
frivolous law suits designed to drain bank accounts
for-closure on houses / neverland
ripped off by accountants /lawyers
and I'm sure there are many more

finally....Arnie is listed as an actor on [ IMBD ?]
I have always wondered if Arnie was playing or was simply opportunistic. I will have to keep watching here too as 3 years down the track and I'm still in the dark re Arnie.
I just hope his book is not too all over the place so I can follow it.
Also the BAD image in his tweet today is another 'coincidence'.
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Poor, poor Arnie.  Time to get a taste of his own medicine it seems.  :thjajaja121:  I think he's fallen off his rocker.  Who could follow a book with all this gibberish?  I think he's going mad, or trying to clean up his mess before Michael returns.
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

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So Arnie starts posting excerpts from his book on his website.

Here´s the one of today. Caption: Howard Weitzman and his best friend Harvey Levin or how you buy tourist buses in LA

http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1097

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Howard Weitzman and Harvey Levin Part Part 1

While covering the O.J. Simpson case for KCBS-TV in Los Angeles, Levin reported that prosecutor Marcia Clark had entered Simpson’s residence before a search warrant had been executed. When Levin was proven wrong, he attempted to blame his mistake on a technician who “mis-timed” the video’s clock during the editing process, however the original lawyer was Howard Weitzman! His action almost got the case dismissed.

 
Howard Weitzman and Harvey Levin Part 2

TMZ posted my totally incorrect illegally released medical records of Michael Jackson on TV as the lawyers were settling MJJ’s estate with a Will that is absolutely erroneous. It was signed on 7/7/02 in LA while Mjj, Al Sharpton and I were were in New York and Michael was speaking in Harlem.

 
from”Michael Jackson: The truth will set you free”

I just thought I´d post this, maybe there is more to come soon  :icon_e_wink:

why does this jump out at me more than the rest? what the heck could he possibly mean?
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Today on Dr. Klein´s FB page:

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I writing this book for Michael and his children. I was told not to write it by countless people. All I can say even if no one reads this book in this generation I have to leave behind the truth . You won’t hear this from his family members in that they barely knew this wondrous human. Michael was a treasure the type which we only find in dreams. For example.when he invited Ryan White to Neverland he only suppose to live 5 months.I remember telling Michael there was no problem swimming with Ryan contrary to what Michael’s plastic surgeon Steven Hoefflin said. After his weekend with Michael Ryan did not live 5 months he lived 5 years and the Aids legislation passed in Ryan’s name remains the most important legislation ever passed on HIV. Everywhere Michael went the world changed….everyone wanted to meet him, to see him, to touch him. The suddenly came the pedofile accusations made by a psychotic dentist who drugged his son to get him to lie and Michael was a demon, a monster, a terror with his own sister calling him a Pedofile. The District Attorney and the lawyers went mad and the next thing I knew Michael was forced to have his genatalia photographed by a room full of people. The agony and torture then was just a preview of what we both would have to experience. Strangley or not so strangley if you know me l Michael became part of my family. We enjoyed each others company...he loved medicine and I loved him….He was harmony, a symphony, a composition that suddenly had turned into flesh and blood. The music business is about greed yet Michael was about melody. He did not walk but gently glided across time and Space as Fred Astaire said to me,” Michael Jackson does not dance he defines dance.” Well Michael wish we luck from high because I am about to expose the people whose greed killed you and pull down the walls they have built to shield their faces from the public who loved you! Michael you will be with me forever and some nights when I look way high beyond the sky I see a flash, some may call it a meteor but I know its you…. just you with that incredible smile and those terrible shoes putting a few new steps across the horizon .

Does anyone know when the book will be published?
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” Well Michael wish we luck from high because I am about to expose the people whose greed killed you and pull down the walls they have built to shield their faces from the public who loved you


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So Arnie starts posting excerpts from his book on his website.

Here´s the one of today. Caption: Howard Weitzman and his best friend Harvey Levin or how you buy tourist buses in LA

http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1097

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Howard Weitzman and Harvey Levin Part Part 1

While covering the O.J. Simpson case for KCBS-TV in Los Angeles, Levin reported that prosecutor Marcia Clark had entered Simpson’s residence before a search warrant had been executed. When Levin was proven wrong, he attempted to blame his mistake on a technician who “mis-timed” the video’s clock during the editing process, however the original lawyer was Howard Weitzman! His action almost got the case dismissed.

 
Howard Weitzman and Harvey Levin Part 2

TMZ posted my totally incorrect illegally released medical records of Michael Jackson on TV as the lawyers were settling MJJ’s estate with a Will that is absolutely erroneous. It was signed on 7/7/02 in LA while Mjj, Al Sharpton and I were were in New York and Michael was speaking in Harlem.

 
from”Michael Jackson: The truth will set you free”

I just thought I´d post this, maybe there is more to come soon  :icon_e_wink:

why does this jump out at me more than the rest? what the heck could he possibly mean?

Exactly it stood out to me too... i remembered the tourist bus that was present on 6/25/2009

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulb4lHp6luk[/youtube]
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I want to read this book too.
This cracked me up.
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I remember telling Michael there was no problem swimming with Ryan contrary to what Michael’s plastic surgeon Steven Hoefflin said.

Loved the way he worked that jab at Hoefflin in there.

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Here are two posts from Dr. Klein´s FB page, in which he keeps going on about manipulation, evil people and especially AEG and Branca, Michael´s will and the Estate etc.

Just thought I´d post them here.

Sometimes I really wonder if there is any truth in this.....what do you guys think?


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I was robbed I am not bankrupt.

I have a Rolls Royce Phanton, a driver and an office in Beverly hills In 2010 I, Dr. Arnold Klein, reported an immense embezzlement, fraud, identity theft, and theft to the Laguna Beach Police, Beverly Hills Police, Homeland Security, Attorney’s Bill Seki and Phillip Boesch. The main venue the embezzlers used was Private Bank of California. The fraudulent accounts established at this bank could only have been done with insider assistance in there was no signed power of attorney, no signature card, and the address to which the accounts were sent was unknown to me; Furthermore in that these accounts were arranged in part by a Pakistani National working with the membership chair of CAIR (which the FBI considers an arm of Hamas) It was very shocking this was allowed to occur. With no response from the authorities or my attorneys I did not know what action to take. Being ill from the embezzlers altering my medication I was convinced to enter Ovlg Bankruptcy Attorneysy Court by three attorneys who guaranteed me my adversarial cases would be swiftly heard in this manner. Muhammad Khilji,Jason Pfeiffer,Robert Lorsch are the key embezzlers. Read on and see it was not about my money but alot more money;

1) David Neale (who held stock in Private Bank of California unbeknownst to me) was well aware that 20-30 million dollars had been embezzled by individuals through illegal accounts established at Private Bank of California with assistance of the CEO of Private Bank Todd Neilson. He told me my cases would be heard swiftly which was a lie.

2) Richard Neiter my Bankruptcy Judge evicted me from my office and strangely bifurcated my case such that not a single adversarial case has ever been heard in 3 years. He admitted he also held stock in. Private Bank of California. Federal Judicial guidelines require the removal of Neiter that I had requested from each and every one of my attorneys but they refused.

3) a Trustee Bradley Sharp who has a strong fiscal relationship with Todd Nielson the CEO of Private Bank was involved with the embezzlers of Dr.Klein’s funds and well as another director of Private Bank. This is conflict of Interest and requires removal

5) David Rish was always jealous of me and stole from me. I did nothing wrong but he and Jason Pfeiffer reported me to the Ca Medical Board though I never had a comlant

4) Please note John Branca's law firm has two seats on the
board of Private of California, that it is all about!

5) There is no such thing as an honest bankruptcy lawyer.

6) Look at the emails between AEG(Randy Phillips) about Michael. they say Michael was drunk,Micheal never got drunk

7) Khilji.Pfeiffer,Rish,,Charnley and Glassman spoke to Hoefflin.Randy Phillips of AEG.Harvey Levin.They.illegally released my records on MJJ.allowed Hoefflin to speak, increased the doses of medicine I used and while you were not looking settled the estate with a phony will.

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Phillip Anscutz is an evil man who was deeply involved in the death of Michael Jackson.


As Mr Jackson stated to me Mr Anschutz and Tom Barack said he had to do 30 shows or lose Neverland, his music catalogue and maybe even his children. Initially,Jack Wishna was the man who first brought Michael to Las Vegas from Ireland. He came to Vegas to prevent the foreclosure on Neverland.He was fine when he landed but after his family arrived he became so physically and mentally disabled he could not even do 2 shows a month. After Wishna Tohme Tohme, a Lebanese-American became Jackson’s business manager. He contacted fellow Lebanese-American Tom Barack. Barack had a relationship with the Neverland's loan holder, Fortress, and was able to get an extension to give his Colony team time to crunch the numbers. He bought the loan on Neverland and said to Michael "Where you are is an insolvable puzzle unless you’re willing to go back to work or..it’s just presiding over a funeral.” Colony agreed to bail out Michael and in return, the firm would take ownership of Neverland and arrange for AEG, the concert promoter owned by Barrack’s friend Phil Anschutz, to stage a comeback. What the public is unaware of is that Barack and William Bone also owned Sunrise Colony, which held the mortgage on Conrad Murray’s Las Vegas soon-to- be-foreclosed on home in the Red Rock Country Club. That is how they found the incompetent Murray to care for Michael. An unforeseen complication arose when Barack received a call from father of Prince Abdullah Al-Khalifa of Bahrain who was suing Mr Jackson in London’s High Court for $7 million plus damages. Barack knew the King of Bahrain from Sardinia, where Barack owns much of the Costa Smeralda. Jackson had apparently forgotten that while being hosted in Bahrain, he had signed over the rights to his catalogue to Prince Abdulla Al-Khalifa for 7 million dollars. Colony then also had to buy out the Prince.. Jackson then moved into a gated $100,000-a-month mansion in Bel-Air and began to prepare for a run of now 50 concerts(!) in London he could never and woud never do! He was struggling physically and heavily medicated by Conrad Murray who could not barely start an IV. He died, from a sedative overdose, eighteen days before the first concert. But in the frenzy of posthumous adulation of Jackson, it was hard to find an FM radio station that wasn’t playing Billie Jean or Beat It. Barrack watched as Jackson’s value was suddenly and spectacularly realized. "This Is It," a documentary about Jackson’s preparation for the comeback concerts, grossed $261 million worldwide during its theatrical run, a record for a concert film, and the Jackson estate signed a series of lucrative deals, including a video game and a Cirque du Soleil show. What’s amazing, Barrack says, is he attained in death what he could never attain in life. It may be an obvious observation, but it’s one with huge financial implications for a long-term investor. . Colony nor AEG had predicted Jackson would die, but they certainly helped it along by hiring the incompetent Murray to care for him. For this reason alone Anshutz,Barack and Tome Tome should be on trial for Michael Jacksons death as accomplices because commonly criminal offences involve individuals who act at a distance, providing information, transportation, and supplying the Propofol. Anschutz and Jackson are so different “The two men couldn't be more

all knew what Murray was doing up there for that is the reason the long standing Nanny Grace quit. Furthermore with all the insanity which TMZ’s Harvey Levin precipitated in the media after the illegal release of my medical records on Michael Jackson most people do not realize what I and Thomas Mesereau know. The Will they settled the estate with is a Fraud . How could Michael possibly sign a Will in LA on a day he was in NYC? Harvey Levin’s best friend is Howard Weitzmam. Furthermore Mr Levin amplified the doses of
of Demerol I used and people never realized Mr Jackson was only given Demerol for the 3-5 hours it took at each visit to rebuild his face. Furthermore regarding the Murray trial in May 2009 I was in Paris so the doses given then were not by me.Additionally Michael’s resigning with Branca makes no sense. He hated Branca and Sony as I, Lisa Marie Presley and everyone close to him knew. However during the last week of his life Murray had taken to skin popping him with Propofol(which explains the body marks .) This would make Michael incompetent to make any rational decision. I do not want to take on AEG but realize they now own Michael through these illegal acts, Anschutz,Barack,Branca and Weitzman now own Michael Jackson’s catalogue.. John Branca was very close to Sony . Sony recently bought Epic so with the amount held by the Prince of Bahrain Michael’s Legacy is the property of Anchutz. One day maybe I will even be paid for rebuilding Michael’s face? Just remember how different Jackson and Anscutz are. One a child star who grew up to become possibly the world's most flamboyant and famous performer, but whose life imploded amid accusations of child molestation, tabloid embarrassments, and gross financial mismanagement. The other is barely known outside the business world, rarely quoted on the record, and a supporter of Conservative causes that include limiting the rights of gays and lesbians and promoting "traditional" family values in entertainment and media world.

Dr. Klein´s FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/arnold.klein
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From his other writings/rants, he seems so all over the place, making it hard to believe everything/anything he says. He's really brainy though.

This reminds me of someone else too....La Toya . Remember how people thought she was "kooky", a liar and strange. No one would take what she said with a grain of salt, so they dismissed her rantings. Come to find out La Toya is a lot sharper/intelligent than most people give her credit  for.



Agree with you.
I hope he is  not trying advertising ....  :icon_rolleyes:


Now this explains the whole "Prince may be my son" facebook stunt. :suspect: Klein knows Michael's kids are a big source of attention, and I have a feeling he's targeting a certain audience for this book!
  :compute:



A few things in his excerpt jump out at me... I don't know if they are "intentional slips", or the result of a manuscript that hasn't been edited yet...

Today on Dr. Klein´s FB page:

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I writing this book for Michael and his children. I was told not to write it by countless people. All I can say even if no one reads this book in this generation I have to leave behind the truth . You won’t hear this from his family members in that they barely knew this wondrous human. Michael was a treasure the type which we only find in dreams. For example.when he invited Ryan White to Neverland he only suppose to live 5 months.I remember telling Michael there was no problem swimming with Ryan contrary to what Michael’s plastic surgeon Steven Hoefflin said. After his weekend with Michael Ryan did not live 5 months he lived 5 years and the Aids legislation passed in Ryan’s name remains the most important legislation ever passed on HIV. Everywhere Michael went the world changed….everyone wanted to meet him, to see him, to touch him. The suddenly came the pedofile accusations made by a psychotic dentist who drugged his son to get him to lie and Michael was a demon, a monster, a terror with his own sister calling him a Pedofile. The District Attorney and the lawyers went mad and the next thing I knew Michael was forced to have his genatalia photographed by a room full of people. The agony and torture then was just a preview of what we both would have to experience. Strangley or not so strangley if you know me l Michael became part of my family. We enjoyed each others company...he loved medicine and I loved him….He was harmony, a symphony, a composition that suddenly had turned into flesh and blood. The music business is about greed yet Michael was about melody. He did not walk but gently glided across time and Space as Fred Astaire said to me,” Michael Jackson does not dance he defines dance.” Well Michael wish we luck from high because I am about to expose the people whose greed killed you and pull down the walls they have built to shield their faces from the public who loved you! Michael you will be with me forever and some nights when I look way high beyond the sky I see a flash, some may call it a meteor but I know its you…. just you with that incredible smile and those terrible shoes putting a few new steps across the horizon .

Does anyone know when the book will be published?

For some reason these little snippets remind me of the things we've been seeing over the past few weeks, months, years.  The poetry sounds a bit like "Back" or "Front" type references.  The reference to the terrible shoes (Paris tweets about walking on water)etc..., "...we only find in dreams" (like propofol induced sleep). etc....

 There seems to be a lot of "layering" in the way he writes. He bounces between factual information and prose.  :suspect:


Arnie is truly a "mixed bag".....like a cat walking a fence...you're never sure what he's really up to or which way he's going to go.  :icon_e_confused:
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I hope that this will be clarified in the trial against AEG

Me too.  :icon_rolleyes:
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Phillip Anscutz is an evil man who was deeply involved in the death of Michael Jackson. …

 Colony nor AEG had predicted Jackson would die, but they certainly helped it along by hiring the incompetent Murray to care for him. For this reason alone Anshutz,Barack and Tome Tome should be on trial for Michael Jacksons death as accomplices because commonly criminal offences involve individuals who act at a distance, providing information, transportation, and supplying the Propofol. Anschutz and Jackson are so different “The two men couldn't be more…

(Anchutz) a supporter of Conservative causes that include limiting the rights of gays and lesbians and promoting "traditional" family values in entertainment and media world.

This article absolutely puts Anchutz in a positive light, as wanting to bring good family values to entertainment. This reminds me of Kingdom entertainment, the company MJ and the Prince Alwaleed bin talal  planned to similarly benefit families. This same Prince invested heavily into AOL and Warner, which owns TMZ.  Klein thinks MJ and Anchutz are different but they have a lot in common. MJ said he read his Bible every day, prayed and loved God.
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/kathleen/parker021105.asp

Here, he appears extremely faith-based in his passion and pursuits.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/04/17/magazines/fortune/waldenmedia_fortune_050106/index.htm

On Sheikh Abdulla bin Hamad Al Khalifa, who knows what really happened. 
http://www.china.org.cn/culture/2008-11/18/content_16784996.htm

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TMZ posted my totally incorrect illegally released medical records of Michael Jackson on TV as the lawyers were settling MJJ’s estate with a Will that is absolutely erroneous. It was signed on 7/7/02 in LA while Mjj, Al Sharpton and I were were in New York and Michael was speaking in Harlem.
MJ in L.A. and New York at the same time; I always think of 'Threatened'.  :Michael_Jackson_smiley_by_red
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The unknown monster is about to embark
From a far corner, out of the dark
A nightmare, that’s the case
Never Neverland, that’s the place
This particular monster can read minds
Be in two places at the same time
This is judgement night, execution, slaughter
The devil, ghosts, this monster is torture
You can be sure of one thing, that’s fate
A human presence that you feel is strange
A monster that you can see disappear
A monster, the worst thing to fear.

I get the feeling that Klein really believes MJ died, and is not in on the hoax.  But I could be wrong, and he's spinning a convincing tale.
Maybe he's feeling the terror of the 'ghost' of Michael in more ways than one.

And this has to be my all-time favorite TMZ article on Klein-- MJ peeing in cups. Can we ever believe Arnie after this?
http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/04/michael-jackson-the-urination-explanation/
And Steven Hoefflin accuses Klein of being a lawbreaker.
http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/09/jackson-doctors-at-war/

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umm if there were people running around that could give testimony that he peed in front of children i think they would have found some way to use it to bring charges against him.
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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As far as Michael peeing in cups, what a disturbed character this Dr. Klein is!!! Unfortunately for me, I have not met Michael, and I don't really know him in person, but when I watch a video of  him onstage at one of his concerts, what astounds me is that he sings from his heart, as he said in one of his interviews when he was a small boy, "I don't sing (or say) it if I don't mean it." something to that effect. 
I've listened to all his interviews that's available online, and I've come to the conclusion that Michael is very shy, specially when it comes to sexuality and sexual situations, and very honest, when you look at his eyes he's like an open book, you can see his soul through his eyes.


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I'm sorry guys, I didn't finish my train of thought yet.  I am too impatient and nervous at the same time, so I posted my reply before I was ready.


To continue with my previous post, it's not in Michael to "pee in a cup", especially in FRONT  of others. It's not in his character to do things like that!!!
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Would love to be a  fly on the wall of Arnie’s office space.  He so reminds me of the main character in “A Beautiful Mind”.    Can’t you almost visualize notes and stickers & articles plastered about Arnie’s Office walls, desk?  He sound like he’s losing it to me. 
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
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   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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I love the way Snoopy describes it...

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Arnie is truly a "mixed bag".....like a cat walking a fence...you're never sure what he's really up to or which way he's going to go. 

Like he's teetering on a thin ledge trying to balance precariously over the abyss of insanity below.
I still want to read his book. 

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Dr. Klein on his FB page today:



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You and I were never separate

It's just an illusion

Wrought by the magical lens of Perception



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 :beerchug: one up for Arnie.  I guess he herd us whispering about him  :thjajaja121: over here.
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
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Thanks Arnie!

Hessouttamylife, A beautiful mind, indeed!



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umm if there were people running around that could give testimony that he peed in front of children i think they would have found some way to use it to bring charges against him.
Exactly!   :icon_lol:
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Dr. Klein on his FB page today:



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LOVE YOU MORE

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Of all the movies in the world that he could choose...LOL

Thanks Dr Klein - you and LaToya have the same taste in movies. :) Hang in there with us.


Blessings
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Dr. Klein reads the forum, he had already linked to it before, so he sure knows about the "death hoax investigation". 
« Last Edit: January 23, 2013, 03:43:04 AM by Sarahli »
We are here for you Michael and will always love you whatever happens.
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oh good grief ! guys pee in front of each other all the time in public bathrooms   :Pulling_hair:
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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I always thought that Dr. Klein belongs to the bad guys. I don't know what to think anymore!
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I think Klein is running scared and trying to clean out his closet before Michael returns. Seems Arnie was ready to thrown stones when he thought Michael was deceased, but something (or someone) apparently alerted him that he had perhaps jumped the gun.  I don’t know what to think of him anymore.  It was my initial gut instinct that Arnie had used Michael’s name & his association with Klein’s clinic in the form of alias’s to obtain prescription drugs for himself thinking he could get away with it since they were painting Michael as an addict. However, the shit hit the fan and Arnie stands right smack in the middle of fraud & mal-practice. He stands to lose a lot more than he already has if it turns out he’s found to have falsified records to get meds slandering Michael’s name & reputation because to me, if anyone is on drugs, judging from Arnie’s rants & raves & madness, he is  on the short list of the usual suspects.
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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I think Klein is running scared and trying to clean out his closet before Michael returns. Seems Arnie was ready to thrown stones when he thought Michael was deceased, but something (or someone) apparently alerted him that he had perhaps jumped the gun.  I don’t know what to think of him anymore.  It was my initial gut instinct that Arnie had used Michael’s name & his association with Klein’s clinic in the form of alias’s to obtain prescription drugs for himself thinking he could get away with it since they were painting Michael as an addict. However, the shit hit the fan and Arnie stands right smack in the middle of fraud & mal-practice. He stands to lose a lot more than he already has if it turns out he’s found to have falsified records to get meds slandering Michael’s name & reputation because to me, if anyone is on drugs, judging from Arnie’s rants & raves & madness, he is  on the short list of the usual suspects.







That makes sense,  and also i remember that Klein assured by TMZ that Michael was gay and that Jason Pfeiffer had been the only homosexual relationship that he had had, but a time after its version change after ensuring that Pfeiffer was never a lover of Michael, he participated in all this garbage

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I don't like this Arnie Klein at all. Talking about his patiens in public and revealing their secrets to the media is a behaviour I don't respect.
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Agreed diggyon, from what's been fed to us by the media, and what he's posted on twitter and his facebook page, he seems to be in trouble financially and he wants to rectify that and get out of the rut that he's in, but it's too little too late, he's going about it all the wrong way and it's backfiring on him...
He needs to have some restraint, and respect people's privacy.  Oh, and he needs to get a life of his own and stop living off of other people.


The best way to describe him in extremely literary terms is: Yuck and Yuck!!!

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Arnie posted the link to our forum and this thread today on his facebook.



Arnold W. Klein shared a link.
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Harvey Levin and OJ!

Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators - Excerpts from Arnold Klein´s book ”Michael Jackson: The t
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Arnie posted the link to our forum and this thread today on his facebook.



Arnold W. Klein shared a link.
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Harvey Levin and OJ!

Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators - Excerpts from Arnold Klein´s book ”Michael Jackson: The t
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 :thjajaja121: Arnie might be a loose cannon but he ain’t stupid  :thjajaja121:
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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I thought there where photos of Michael on Arnies page before, there are pics of Elisabeth Tailor but MJ isnt on that page?

http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1097
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I think Klein is running scared and trying to clean out his closet before Michael returns. Seems Arnie was ready to thrown stones when he thought Michael was deceased, but something (or someone) apparently alerted him that he had perhaps jumped the gun.  I don’t know what to think of him anymore.  It was my initial gut instinct that Arnie had used Michael’s name & his association with Klein’s clinic in the form of alias’s to obtain prescription drugs for himself thinking he could get away with it since they were painting Michael as an addict. However, the shit hit the fan and Arnie stands right smack in the middle of fraud & mal-practice. He stands to lose a lot more than he already has if it turns out he’s found to have falsified records to get meds slandering Michael’s name & reputation because to me, if anyone is on drugs, judging from Arnie’s rants & raves & madness, he is  on the short list of the usual suspects.











That makes sense,  and also i remember that Klein assured by TMZ that Michael was gay and that Jason Pfeiffer had been the only homosexual relationship that he had had, but a time after its version change after ensuring that Pfeiffer was never a lover of Michael, he participated in all this garbage







Well, now that we know that Arnold Klein read this forum, the might explain this and other things ... it would be a good idea to register here

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Thank you for sharing this. I thought he had linked to the forum before. I still can't figure him out but the fact that he's acknowledged the forum is safe to say he's explored the contents here. Or, maybe he's even commented.

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The parallels in these stories is not lost on me.....
being sold out by ex-employees
lurid details about Arnie's /MJ's private lives
media slander and mockery
shared love of art....both collectors of art
frivolous law suits designed to drain bank accounts
for-closure on houses / neverland
ripped off by accountants /lawyers
and I'm sure there are many more



I can't help thinking that Arnie is trying to tell us that the same thing that happened to Michael is now happening to him. The difference being that MJ has a world of fans and soldiers of LOVE who are active in doing their part to defend and vindicate Him......but Arnie seems almost abandoned to his fate to me.  I feel sorry for him.   

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The parallels in these stories is not lost on me.....
being sold out by ex-employees
lurid details about Arnie's /MJ's private lives
media slander and mockery
shared love of art....both collectors of art
frivolous law suits designed to drain bank accounts
for-closure on houses / neverland
ripped off by accountants /lawyers
and I'm sure there are many more



I can't help thinking that Arnie is trying to tell us that the same thing that happened to Michael is now happening to him. The difference being that MJ has a world of fans and soldiers of LOVE who are active in doing their part to defend and vindicate Him......but Arnie seems almost abandoned to his fate to me.  I feel sorry for him.   
That's the feeling I was getting.

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I don't know what to make of AK, but his Facebook link to here is 'interesting' to say the least!  Guess I'll keep watching!

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Yeah, I know what you guys mean about Arnie.  I think in some odd way, Michael's vindication will be his as well? 
I don't know him, have never met him, so I feel I really can't say anything about him.  I don't trust what I read in the media...
good or bad.  Perhaps my shell has become too hard.......there is something about him though.  All those pictures of him
with the famous set...and the quotes they give.....just seems real and that they genuinely were helped by him. 
I am just in the watch and wait mode for sure........
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Just a thought, you know how MJ's face seemed to literally change so much, even the same year?  Well, from Botox, Wiki:
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The results of cosmetic procedures vary, but can last up to eight months.
If AK was giving him Botox treatment, it would alter his face slightly but eventually change back.

But the daily trips MJ was taking to his clinic, in the months before his 'death', have to be hoax related.  If AK is in on the hoax, only then could MJ be using those daily visits lasting several hours, for other purposes. Some options are him having hoax related medical consultation times, or going out the back door incognito to do other things.  Of course MJ wanted the public to totally be convinced he was a drug addict, reportedly going in to the office fine and coming out groggy from the Demerol shots.

Just a refresher on AK and hoax info. Please add to this if you remember other things:
MJ was saying good-bye to everyone at the office (but maybe because of the London trip).
AK wants his green jacket back that MJ borrowed (and used in the mirrors pic that led people to think doubles).
MJ peed into cups in his office, and that's how Gavin Arvizo identified the markings, so MJ was innocent.
MJ had gay relationship with Jason Pfeiffer, later denied.
AK's house had a fire in the kitchen, "Let it all burn".
AK is/is not the father of Prince and Paris.

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The parallels in these stories is not lost on me.....
being sold out by ex-employees
lurid details about Arnie's /MJ's private lives
media slander and mockery
shared love of art....both collectors of art
frivolous law suits designed to drain bank accounts
for-closure on houses / neverland
ripped off by accountants /lawyers
and I'm sure there are many more

I can't help thinking that Arnie is trying to tell us that the same thing that happened to Michael is now happening to him. The difference being that MJ has a world of fans and soldiers of LOVE who are active in doing their part to defend and vindicate Him......but Arnie seems almost abandoned to his fate to me.  I feel sorry for him.   


Yes, I sort of feel the same.  There are many parallels and like Mjonmind said in the recent TMZ thread, if Arnie is a whistle-blower about certain Botox "recipes", like MJ was about the music industry, then his career/reputation/financial situation would be in danger. 

He has to know about the hoax.  Like voiceforthesilent said, he has linked to this forum before recently, I think it was a couple years ago or so.  Since MJ "died", he seems to be doing everything he can to have MJ's fans turn against him with all the utterly ridiculous claims he's made, that MJonmind listed above.  So was he doing this for attention or because MJ gave him the go ahead to make up these stories to get people talking and speculating, something Michael has dealt with his entire life so it's nothing "new" to him.  The more contradicting stories out there about him, the better.  Because people just don't know the truth or what to expect next.  Certainly some people would hear these stories and not think they're true and it may lead them to question what else isn't true about Michael.  And if Arnie is helping Michael somehow, then it's not obvious because of the things Arnie has said.  Same with TMZ, many of their stories about Michael and the Jacksons have been ridiculous as well - most wouldn't expect them to be actually be working with Michael.

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@MJonmind...... :th_bravo:

Things like you listed really seem to make much more sense......
thank you!

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Just a thought, you know how MJ's face seemed to literally change so much, even the same year?  Well, from Botox, Wiki:
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The results of cosmetic procedures vary, but can last up to eight months.
If AK was giving him Botox treatment, it would alter his face slightly but eventually change back


I think ur spot on. Remember the 30th anniversary era? His face changed a lot then and then changed back.


Just want to say and this is completely only my IMHO and I understand each to their own, but I really hate it when I hear Klein judged harshly by believers and fans. I honestly think he's in.

One member on our forum said something like 'I can't help but not trust him and think his bad look at his disgusting evil face'

(Klein always has photos of the worst angry and unflattering looking facial expressions posted on media when ppl are quoting him. To the ignorant and shallow mind they may translate as He is a baddy, which means you played right into tabloids hands)

When I read the comment I thought 'wow how ignorant' how many times were unflattering photos of MJ posted in articles. How many times was he misquoted or flat out judged? And what now, the very fans who hate that being done to Michael jackson do it to Klein with no proof at all he is a bad guy??

We need to remember we learn the lesson on all this. Time will tell truth. Til then let's not make assumptions


IMHO I think he's in and was a definite resource to MJ re: establishing drug addict persona, Alibi or at least questions around all the appointments, Plastic surgery, disguise / Botox assistance and the like and perhaps even in more ways like plastic surgery assistance to doubles??
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I keep remembering it being said that Michael visited Klein’s office regularly and stayed for hours on end.  This is where I’ve felt Klein came in, in that this created food for the rumor mill that he was doping.  But no one can prove what he was doing once he disappeared behind those doors.  I’ve always felt that he entered in one way and exited another in order to get some “me time” and Klein obliged him that freedom.  On the occasions he was “allegedly” seen exiting in a perceived drugged condition, well, that’s only a matter of opinion and possibly as planned to feed fuel to the fire.  There’s so much speculation about Michael & drugs & health issues that it would tickle me pink to know with certainty that he pranked the media on purpose and will leave them looking like fools once the reveal comes.
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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Quote from hesouttamylife:

I keep remembering it being said that Michael visited Klein’s office regularly and stayed for hours on end.

And we have several photos and video on this forum that proves this point. 

I have the same feeling about the rest of your post.

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Enter the help of Ben Evenstad..."...his daily visits to the dermatologist" 

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNOuxcIBj8s[/youtube]



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I keep remembering it being said that Michael visited Klein’s office regularly and stayed for hours on end.  This is where I’ve felt Klein came in, in that this created food for the rumor mill that he was doping.  But no one can prove what he was doing once he disappeared behind those doors.  I’ve always felt that he entered in one way and exited another in order to get some “me time” and Klein obliged him that freedom.  On the occasions he was “allegedly” seen exiting in a perceived drugged condition, well, that’s only a matter of opinion and possibly as planned to feed fuel to the fire.  There’s so much speculation about Michael & drugs & health issues that it would tickle me pink to know with certainty that he pranked the media on purpose and will leave them looking like fools once the reveal comes.

If Michael was fooling the media to make them think he was a drug addict the problem will be when Michael will comeback and explain that he was just kidding and he really is not a drug addict, will media believe him? or what is worse: will his fans believe he is not a real drug addict? I think when you play with fire you can get burned and this is being a dangerous game if it's so.

@Faithat777.... if you wanna quote someone you just have to click the "quote button" of the post you wanna quote and it will display the post automatically.
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@Faithat777.... if you wanna quote someone you just have to click the "quote button" of the post you wanna quote and it will display the post automatically.
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Thanks sweet, I did now. How would I quote only a part of someone's post, not all of it?

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@Faithat777.... if you wanna quote someone you just have to click the "quote button" of the post you wanna quote and it will display the post automatically.

Thanks sweet, I did now. How would I quote only a part of someone's post, not all of it?

You didn't quote my post correctly, if you wanna quote a portion of the post you just have to delete what you don't wanna quote.
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I keep remembering it being said that Michael visited Klein’s office regularly and stayed for hours on end.  This is where I’ve felt Klein came in, in that this created food for the rumor mill that he was doping.  But no one can prove what he was doing once he disappeared behind those doors.  I’ve always felt that he entered in one way and exited another in order to get some “me time” and Klein obliged him that freedom.  On the occasions he was “allegedly” seen exiting in a perceived drugged condition, well, that’s only a matter of opinion and possibly as planned to feed fuel to the fire.  There’s so much speculation about Michael & drugs & health issues that it would tickle me pink to know with certainty that he pranked the media on purpose and will leave them looking like fools once the reveal comes.

If Michael was fooling the media to make them think he was a drug addict the problem will be when Michael will comeback and explain that he was just kidding and he really is not a drug addict, will media believe him? or what is worse: will his fans believe he is not a real drug addict? I think when you play with fire you can get burned and this is being a dangerous game if it's so.

@Faithat777.... if you wanna quote someone you just have to click the "quote button" of the post you wanna quote and it will display the post automatically.

I don’t think he created the rumor or was trying to make the public think he was an addict, but since it had been put out there by the media he knew well that they were going to run with the story anyway.  So I just feel that he simply did very little to try to convince them otherwise, knowing any attempt would be futile and the people who had faith in him would know better.  That’s why I called it a rumor mill because that’s all it ever was.  No one has proven any differently.  I never believed Michael was an addict, so no matter what the media spewed, I held to my convictions that there was a method to the madness and one day it will be revealed. Does that make any sense?
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Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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   and leaving me Speechless!

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Hi sweet, sorry about this.  I guess this is not the right thread for these types of questions.  I will ask in the "Questions" thread. Thanks for your help.

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@Faithat777.... if you wanna quote someone you just have to click the "quote button" of the post you wanna quote and it will display the post automatically.

Thanks sweet, I did now. How would I quote only a part of someone's post, not all of it?

You didn't quote my post correctly, if you wanna quote a portion of the post you just have to delete what you don't wanna quote.

Thanks Sweet even though your reply is to faith.  I often wondered how people quoted only certain portions of a post.  Now I know.  Cheers!  :beerchug:
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

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Yeah, me too.....I just never saw him as a drug addict.  I think the media will run with anything...especially a negative. 
It seems a big name celebrity is an easy target to paint as a drug addict.  So I think the media's painting of Michael
as a druggie, is their own fault.  If they (the media) were to get mad at anyone, they have to get mad at themselves......
same goes for fans.  I don't think Michael set out on purpose to say he's an addict.  I think he gave just enough illusion
to set imaginations on fire....not his fault at all if people always assume the worst. 
Well...just my random thoughts anyways.......

Blessings always

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I believe that there is a war between Harvey Levin and Arnold Klein, both are making allegations mutually, and other people who are defending Arnold.



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Michael Jackson's now-bankrupt former dermatologist Dr. Arnie Klein -- who fueled the singer with mass quantities of dangerous drugs -- has now been named in another sprawling drug controversy ... this time involving potentially dangerous Botox imported from foreign countries.

The FDA has issued a notification to more than 350 medical practices across the U.S. -- claiming they may have received unapproved meds, including Botox, from a foreign supplier -- and one of the docs on the giant list is none other than Arnie.

The suppliers in question are owned and operated by a company called Canada Drugs, though it's unclear where the drugs are manufactured.

According to the FDA, "These medications may be counterfeit, contaminated, improperly stored and transported, ineffective, and/or unsafe."

The notice continues, "Medical practices that purchase and administer illegal and unapproved medications from foreign sources are placing patients at risk."

But then again, Danger is Arnie's middle name ...

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=23602.new;topicseen#new












Harvey Levin and Roy Cohn
Posted on January 29, 2013 by AWKMD

By Linda (who knows Harvey too well)

Arnie saved my face. When I met him I could not go out in public. He reversed and fixed
something no one else in the world could. As far as I am concerned Arnie walks on
Water.Arnie is a doctor, a genius and is gay.

Harvey Levin is a gay lawyer. To him life is all about the mighty buck.Conrad Murray who killed Michael Jackson tried to use Arnie as a scapegoat, to distract the jury’s attention from his own culpability. This time, fortunately, that strategy didn’t work. But a pattern was set into motion…inferences about Dr. Klein. Little did these idiots know that Arnie was in Paris During May of 2009 when they attributed all the Demerol Shots to Klein at the Murray trial. It was actually Doctors Rich and Raidar in Klein’s office who treated Michael during that period. Then lets talk about the witch Harvey Levin. Levin actually contacted Steven Hoefflin to drag Arnie into the entire mess. Harvey knew that Hoefflin had a cease and desist against him and was not permitted to speak\ or talk\ about Michael. Harvey,however, saw alot of money and may be tour buses. Hoefflin did over one-hundred surgeries on Michael and also was the one who got him addicted to Propofol. Harvey and his dear friends Howard Weitzman and John Branca were busy settling the Jackson estate with a phony Will so Harvey decided to blind the world by vastly increasing the doses of Demerol Arnie used. How did the records of Michael get released anyway. Attorneys Richard Charnley together with Brad Boyer, Muhammad Khilji and Jason Pfeiffer not only stole Klein’s millions they also released Michaels records. Of course Harvey the genius never figured it was the records of three doctors instead of one. So he took all the Demerol shots and added some and got a number. Did he ever bother to tell the world that Arnie employed a drug addiction specialist(Honzel) and Michael’s internist(Metzger) when determining the proper doses of Demerol to use? Just Google Harvey Levin and OJ Simpson to see what he did for Howard when he represented OJ.What most have not been aware of is that, before the death of Arnie’s beloved friend Michael Jackson, two of Arnie’s employees embezzled a king’s ransom from him through a bank, Private Bank of California,on which John Branca Law Firm has two seats. Quite a stunning conspiracy. It is even worse because this Bank has committed serious Bank Fraud which is a Federal Offense. A few days ago, Harvey’s gossip tv rag “TMZ” broadcast what amounts to a smear campaign on the heels of an alleged letter that was sent to 350 doctors across the nation.  One of those physicians is Dr. Klein.  But the TMZ “report” was all about targeted innuendo. Little did they know that:

 Arnie was sent a vial  of Botox by someone(probably Muhammad Khilji)and never used it. Because he is on the FDA Arnie discussed it with Keith Hadley a criminal investigator for the FDA. Remember Arnie got the Black- Box warning on Botox. Harvey made a big deal about it but I bet he gets his toxins for free.

 

Harvey reminds me very much of another gay lawyer Roy Cohn who years ago dated Barbara Walters.Federal investigations during the 1970s and 1980s charged Cohn three times with professional misconduct, including perjury and witness tampering. He was accused in New York of financial improprieties related to city contracts and private investments. He was never convicted of any charge. In 1986, a five-judge panel of the Appellate Division of the New York State Supreme Court disbarred Cohn for unethical and unprofessional conduct, including misappropriation of clients’ funds, lying on a bar application, and pressuring a client to amend his will. In this case in 1975, Cohn entered the hospital room of a dying and comatose Lewis Rosenstiel, the multi-millionaire founder of Schenley Industries, forced a pen to his hand and lifted it to the will in an attempt to make himself and Cathy Frank—Rosenstiel’s granddaughter—beneficiaries. The resulting marks were determined in court to be indecipherable and in no way a valid signature. He lost his law license during the last month of his life. At that time, National Review senior editor Jeffrey Hart referred to him as “an ice-cold sleaze.

http://www.arnoldwklein.com/?p=1796

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Do you guys remember when Arnie did TMZ Live, 2 or 3 years ago, with Harvey?  He spoke for almost 2 hours straight, I watched it at the time but it would be interesting to see it again, when I have the time.  Here's the link of the whole interview, for anyone interested.

http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_vzg6l1tv/


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Arnold is very busy the days on twitter :

https://twitter.com/awkmd

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Thing is, maybe I was living under a rock, actually I was (and still am) regarding 'celebrity gossip', and admittedly, I didn't follow MJ's every move, but ...... I never had the impression that the media was portraying him as a drug addict before he 'died'.  I was aware of the prescription meds thing in the '90s but that seemed to 'die a death' in the media, they didn't persue it, until after he 'died', when all the stories of hefty unpaid drug bills etc came out.  Am I wrong in my perception here?

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Oh forgot to mention that even though I get the impression Arnold is in, it doesn't mean MJ isn't merely 'using' him. Just like TMZ I guess.....
« Last Edit: February 01, 2013, 06:36:45 PM by Australian MJ BeLIEver »
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curls, I don't think you're wrong in your perception.  I don't really recall hearing MJ had drug problems pre-June 25th.  What I do remember is the "6 months to live", "MJ has a huge stash of unreleased songs for his children after he dies" (that story was shortly after the 6 months to live), the TII announcement, and the auction that was arranged because MJ was "broke", then it was cancelled.  I had heard of TMZ before MJ "died" but had never been to their site before then.  The drug stories really came out post-June 25th with the "evidence" stemming from MJ's multiple visits to Klein's office in the weeks leading up to June 25th and then the reports of all the aliases MJ allegedly used to get drugs.

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The trial of 2005 when MJ showed those marks on his legs, remember -  the media reported that those marks were from him injecting drugs rather than being bitten by a spider. They even alluded that he was taking meds at night during the trials, and dredged up suppositions of him having ingested large quantities of xanex and using demerol even before then.  I don’t think the perception changed much after that.  However since MJ left the states they could not keep up with his every move.  It was only when he moved back here that things started going south again.  Although I am an American, sometimes I feel ashamed to admit it based on how badly Michael was treated in his homeland. It’s shameful.
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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The trial of 2005 when MJ showed those marks on his legs, remember -  the media reported that those marks were from him injecting drugs rather than being bitten by a spider. They even alluded that he was taking meds at night during the trials, and dredged up suppositions of him having ingested large quantities of xanex and using demerol even before then.  I don’t think the perception changed much after that.  However since MJ left the states they could not keep up with his every move.  It was only when he moved back here that things started going south again.  Although I am an American, sometimes I feel ashamed to admit it based on how badly Michael was treated in his homeland. It’s shameful.

Great post........thank you!
Yes, the perceptions never did change much.  Though when he did take the stage at various events, you can tell he was very much loved....for that I am grateful.  He didn't really try to change the assumptions....perhaps it was on purpose.  Having a song like, "Morphine" on an album surely didn't help either.  I firmly believe he knew exactly what he was doing in those years.......for whatever reasons.  Your last lines about being an American feeling shameful are true for me as well.  I couldn't stand how the media tore him apart here.  I always thought it would be very different if social media were around then......like it is today. Would fans and people who cared about him rise up together?  Back then it was hard to get a message of support out.....if the media didn't broadcast it somehow.....it was buried.  The internet was up and going very true.....but not like it is today.  The good news is that the world has not seen the last of Michael Jackson.  I believe with all that's in me,  he's alive and well.  I also believe the truth will set us free...........
Love you all........

Blessings

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The trial of 2005 when MJ showed those marks on his legs, remember -  the media reported that those marks were from him injecting drugs rather than being bitten by a spider. They even alluded that he was taking meds at night during the trials, and dredged up suppositions of him having ingested large quantities of xanex and using demerol even before then.  I don’t think the perception changed much after that.  However since MJ left the states they could not keep up with his every move.  It was only when he moved back here that things started going south again.  Although I am an American, sometimes I feel ashamed to admit it based on how badly Michael was treated in his homeland. It’s shameful.

Great post........thank you!
Yes, the perceptions never did change much.  Though when he did take the stage at various events, you can tell he was very much loved....for that I am grateful.  He didn't really try to change the assumptions....perhaps it was on purpose.  Having a song like, "Morphine" on an album surely didn't help either.  I firmly believe he knew exactly what he was doing in those years.......for whatever reasons.  Your last lines about being an American feeling shameful are true for me as well.  I couldn't stand how the media tore him apart here.  I always thought it would be very different if social media were around then......like it is today. Would fans and people who cared about him rise up together?  Back then it was hard to get a message of support out.....if the media didn't broadcast it somehow.....it was buried.  The internet was up and going very true.....but not like it is today.  The good news is that the world has not seen the last of Michael Jackson.  I believe with all that's in me,  he's alive and well.  I also believe the truth will set us free...........
Love you all........

Blessings

Yes, the truth and only the truth will set us free. But I guess the only truth that I will believe is the spoken from MJ, so I'm hoping for the "tell all book" that is suposed to be written by himself. Funny "coincidence" all the "truth telling books" recently... :icon_e_smile:  :icon_bounce:
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Regarding this portion @Wishing "Your last lines about being an American feeling shameful are true for me as well.  I couldn't stand how the media tore him apart here.  I always thought it would be very different if social media were around then......like it is today" I am amost certain that Michael’s true fans would have ripped them a new one  :icon_lol:  If social media had been around then, there would be no need for Michael to be hoaxing now.
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

 

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