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Yes of course it is.[...]
How can we know that^^ with 100% certainty?

Michael said he owned half of Sony back in that 2001 - Sony speech.
But what about today? 11 years later?
Can we still be 100% sure that he still owns half of Sony ATV and that this "deal" is 100% Michael's plan?

IDK...

All I know is that I HOPE it is that way... and at the same time I have my bad feelings about this "deal".
Last Edit: August 21, 2012, 07:44:48 AM by SimPattyK
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So you think the above message of Branca in which he says that they own half of Sony ATV is possibly a lie?
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So you think the above message of Branca in which he says that they own half of Sony ATV is possibly a lie?
I don't know what is a LIE and what isn't!

I’m just saying that I have a bad feeling.... that maybe...just maybe Michael can’t be 100% in control of everything , traitors will always lurk around him and betray his interest when he needs them most, like for ex. NOW: when he’s supposed to be dead and he can’t take legal actions to protect that catalogue as he could have when he was officially alive!
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I get your point and I respect your point of view. It all depends on that, right?
As for me personally I (for the moment) stick to the believe that Estate=MJ and they are executing his plans.
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For additional information on the ownership of Sony ATV:

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Branca & Co are already managing. If they are good or bad, do not know, but they did a good job. My question is whether they are inside or outside the hoax. It's not my time yet to really wonder if MJ died.
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LOL, feels like a kind of warning of sorts to the people who feel the administration of the estate should be changed, the challengers.  They clearly state that the catalogues will stay with MiJack “as long as Branca & MClain” are the executors.  :LolLolLolLol: Leaves it open as to the possible consequences of what could happen shold their managemnt be over turned.  In other words, this one’s for the signer’s of the letter.
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I get your point and I respect your point of view. It all depends on that, right?
As for me personally I (for the moment) stick to the believe that Estate=MJ and they are executing his plans.



The debts have been paid, that would be a reason for that the catalog will go to other hands, and in regard to death threats because of that catalog there is no reason why MJ is officially dead, and that you know there are no threats against the Mrs Katherine or children.
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May be that Michael took this decision  because the catalog has always given him many problems and in his new life he does not want more for himself and for his childrens....  :icon_razz:  :moonwalk_:
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Blankie they did not sell the catalog they only gave the publishing/administrative part to Sony/ATV (and Michael owns 50 % of that).
So basically Sony/ATV does the publishing work, Estate (Michael) owns the catalog.
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Blankie they did not sell the catalog they only gave the publishing/administrative part to Sony/ATV (and Michael owns 50 % of that).
So basically Sony/ATV does the publishing work, Estate (Michael) owns the catalog.


Thanks Mary  :bearhug: I still think we should not worry...only wait  :icon_razz:
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Thank you for sharing this. I'm with those of you that don't see any reason to worry.

I remember when the discussion was on regarding Sony/ATV signing that billion dollar deal buyout of EMI. I was really excited for that because there were some J5 songs in there. Essentially, Michael got them back as he is part owner of Sony/ATV.

We must remember that it wasn't Sony that Michael had problems with, it was with Motolla and maybe others who were in charge. They are no longer in power at Sony and he is/was comfortable with the ones in charge now (as far as we know).

So, now we have this deal with Sony. To me it's no different. Michael is using Sony's great influence and marketing power to showcase his music. He is still part owner and has a say in how the music will be used. It's a win/win. So far I think it's a great move and there isn't anything that gives me reason to worry.

We do need to keep our eyes open and be watchful though. Because I could be wrong. I sure hope I'm not and I don't feel like I am, but one doesn't know. It just continues to look like a 'TOTAL TAKEOVER' to me.

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I agree with what you said voice.

I also think it´s a clever business move.
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With the deal complete, EMI will be folded into Sony/ATV in New York, a Sony subsidiary that is run as a joint venture between Sony and Michael Jackson’s estate. Sony/ATV represents the copyrights of Jackson, Bob Dylan and other legendary artists.  Among the coalition of investors involved in the purchase, the largest financial backer is an Abu Dhabi-based firm called Mubadala Development.

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MJ had friends and connections in the middle-east...and I hope this is one of them.

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LOL, feels like a kind of warning of sorts to the people who feel the administration of the estate should be changed, the challengers.  They clearly state that the catalogues will stay with MiJack “as long as Branca & MClain” are the executors.    Leaves it open as to the possible consequences of what could happen shold their managemnt be over turned.  In other words, this one’s for the signer’s of the letter.
Yes I got that too.

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When you take all this^^ into account , it really doesn't matter if "they" buy/sell that catalogue or not! Simply the fact that "they" get to lay their filthy hands on it, by "administering" it, makes me tremble with fear mixed with disgust !! "they" can do so many illegal things in order to get money and other illicit profits out of it, "they" don't even need to own it!
Sounds like it’s a cow!  Cash cow… :icon_pale:
Sim I feel your worry, but there aint nuttin we can do about it except ‘keep watching’. We can tell Michael we love and support him, stay here on the site and stay the course. Everyone’s trying to show their support as best they can.
Voice and Mary have helpful thoughts that I agree with too.
Hugs to you Sim!
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I think everything major that happens with that catalogue is solid proof about Michael being dead or alive!
Yes, it would be so nice to get a sign from an insider about this Sony deal—from Paris, Front, siblings, etc. 

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Sim I feel your worry, but there aint nuttin we can do about it except ‘keep watching’. We can tell Michael we love and support him, stay here on the site and stay the course. Everyone’s trying to show their support as best they can.
Voice and Mary have helpful thoughts that I agree with too.
Hugs to you Sim! :bearhug:
Yes, I think you're right.
hugs to all of you  :bearhug:


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I think everything major that happens with that catalogue is solid proof about Michael being dead or alive!
Yes, it would be so nice to get a sign from an insider about this Sony deal—from Paris, Front, siblings, etc.
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