KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

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KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 25, 2012, 04:42:51 PM
KATHERINE JACKSON
'DRUGGED' UP

13 minutes ago BY TMZ STAFF

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Katherine Jackson called her home in Calabasas at 2 AM today and again at 4 AM, sounding "drugged" and ordering that the security team be fired and replaced by Janet Jackson's security ... TMZ has learned.

A lawyer in court today made reference to "an incident" last night -- this is the incident.  Sources involved in the situation tell TMZ ... people in the house were "alarmed and nervous" after hearing Katherine sounding heavily drugged.

In addition to attempting to 86 the security team, Katherine ordered Trent Jackson off the property.  You may recall, Jackson's security -- and Trent in particular -- thwarted Monday's attempt by Randy, Jermaine and Janet to take the kids to Arizona.

Our sources say the prevailing view is that Randy and company have drugged their mom.

We're also told Jackie Jackson is furious at his conspiratorial siblings for what they've done and what they are trying to do.

We were unable to get Randy for comment. 

Katherine's lawyer, Perry Sanders, tells TMZ ... "I'm waiting on Katherine to get back in town and I'm looking forward to getting a hold of her to ascertain what's been going on."

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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 25, 2012, 04:46:26 PM
Wild guess:

Next on TMZ: recording of Katherine´s call with "slurred speech".



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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 25, 2012, 04:47:05 PM
Was just coming to add this Souza but you beat me to it!  Boy things are coming fast and furious!  Reminds me of the recording of Michael talking and sounding drugged.... hmmmm

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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 25, 2012, 04:52:49 PM
Wild guess:

Next on TMZ: recording of Katherine´s call with "slurred speech".

Thinking the same! hehe :beerchug:
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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 25, 2012, 05:01:26 PM
this reminds me of the recording of michael being drugged during the murray trial.
But tmz made up the story about janet and paris slapping eachother so this can also be made up that katherine called drugged up.
I hope Katherine gets back soon so this can be put to rest and Paris can tweet out a confirmation.
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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 25, 2012, 05:15:21 PM
Wild guess:

Next on TMZ: recording of Katherine´s call with "slurred speech".

Thinking the same! hehe :beerchug:

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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 25, 2012, 05:18:28 PM
oh and also slurred speach, weird wordings and pauses can be symptoms of a stroke.
Just sayin...

Plz katherine come hoooooomeeeeee
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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 25, 2012, 05:25:02 PM
They're sure making it easy for us.  The parallels are obvious between Katherine and Michael's supposed drug use/late night phone calls, etc.  Just like there were parallels between Murray and MJ.

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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 25, 2012, 05:56:36 PM
oh and also slurred speach, weird wordings and pauses can be symptoms of a stroke.
Just sayin...


Thought about that too.

Too many quick assumptions about Katherine sounded drugged up. What if she had a medical treatment and her voice sounded slurred of the medications? And did she sound differently...? she could have been someone else saying she was Katherine :suspect: Plus, I didn't read that MJ's kids were disturbed and were saying that Katherine sounded strange.
We still don't know the whole story and for the media it's easy to speculate.

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Judge suspends Katherine Jackson as guardian
Call made from spa in Arizona

 Author: From Alan Duke CNN

Published On: Jul 25 2012 11:37:08 AM EDT Updated On: Jul 25 2012 03:09:31 PM EDT


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A judge appointed TJ Jackson, the 34-year-old son of Tito Jackson, as temporary guardian of Michael Jackson's three children in the absence of their grandmother, Katherine Jackson.

"We have reason to believe that Mrs. Jackson has been held against her will," Katherine Jackson attorney Sandra Ribera told Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff at a hearing Wednesday.

Immediately after the hearing however, another attorney for Katherine Jackson, Perry Sanders, said he'd been told by Randy Jackson that his mother was on a plane bound for California.


Sanders said he would immediately file a petition to restore her as custodian.

Beckloff suspended Katherine Jackson as custodian for Prince, Paris and Prince Michael II, known as Blanket, because she may be "prevented from acting as a guardian because of the acts of third parties."

He also ordered "that the children not be removed from California without a court order, by any person."

The judge also ordered that Diana Ross, whom Michael Jackson named as backup guardian in his will, and Debbie Rowe, the biological mother of the two oldest children, be given notice of the order.

The order will be reconsidered at a hearing next month, and the judge left open the possibility that custody could be returned sooner if Katherine Jackson returns home.

Katherine Jackson finally called her home Tuesday night after being out of communication for nine days, her lawyer said.

TJ Jackson, whom Katherine Jackson left in charge of the children when she left home on July 15, said he was disturbed by how she sounded.

"I've never heard my grandmother talk like that," he said about that phone call. "She wasn't sharp. Her words were slurred. Her choice of vocabulary, I never heard her use those phrases."

His lawyer said that "maybe she was trying to speak to him in code."

Ribera said one of the children told her it sounded like she was not alone during that call.

Sanders said the call was made after he met with Jermaine and Janet Jackson at a spa near Tucson, Arizona, on Tuesday night to resolve the controversy over Katherine Jackson's whereabouts.

They did not, however, allow him to meet or talk with her, he said.

Katherine Jackson, 82, left the home she shares with Michael Jackson's children on July 15. She had not contacted them before Tuesday, though a Los Angeles County sheriff's investigation concluded she was safe in Arizona.

Katherine Jackson has custody of Michael Jackson's children and a 20% share in her son's huge estate. Her husband, Joe Jackson, and her eight surviving children were completely left out of Michael Jackson's will when the pop star died in 2009.

Authorities got involved when her nephew Trent filed a missing person report with the sheriff's office over the weekend. Security camera video obtained by CNN captured a tense scene at the Calabasas, California, home she shares with her three grandchildren.

Siblings Janet, Jermaine and Randy Jackson attempted to persuade the older children, Prince and Paris, to leave Katherine Jackson's home with them Monday. Paris and Prince resisted, according to three sources with knowledge of the incident, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the matter.

The video shows Janet Jackson apparently trying to take a cell phone away from Paris and scolding her niece for using her phone to write about family issues on Twitter, according to the three sources.

Paris, Michael Jackson's 14-year-old daughter, posted a Twitter message at about the same time: "gotta love fam." Meanwhile, 15-year-old Prince is seen walking away from his Uncle Randy into the home's security office. Paris soon followed, and Randy and Janet Jackson appeared to be recording the incident with their cell phones.

Minutes later, sheriff's deputies broke up a scuffle involving Randy and Jermaine Jackson and Trent Jackson, who works for their mother, according to several people who witnessed it. No one was arrested, although a battery report was taken and an investigation is ongoing, Los Angeles County sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore said.
 
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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 25, 2012, 06:02:10 PM
Uh...excuse me....if we believe that this is all STAGED why are we even discussing real health issues and such?

Makes no sense.

We either believe (that the whole story is staged) or we don´t!
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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 25, 2012, 06:14:49 PM
TMZ update:

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2:43 PM PT -- Randy Jackson has gone to Twitter ... claiming Katherine fired Trent and her security team at 9 PM last night ... NOT between 2AM and 4AM this morning.

He makes no reference to allegations she was "drugged up" during the phone call ... but Randy does say he was on the phone with Rebbie when it all went down.

Randy also claims TJ had ASKED Katherine for temporary guardianship last night ... but Katherine flat out turned him down ... saying, "NO TJ."
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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 25, 2012, 06:20:15 PM
oohh First missing, then playing games, then Janet slaps Paris, now Mrs Katherine supposedly "sounds drugged'... what's up next? PROPOFOL!??  :affraid:

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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 25, 2012, 07:16:32 PM
Shocking New Claim: Katherine Jackson Given Alcohol, Seemed Drunk in Arizona | Radar Online


Katherine Jackson seemed drunk when she finally spoke to Michael Jackson's children Tuesday night for the first time in more than a week, and it alarmed the kids because the devout Jehovah's Witness doesn't normally drink alcohol, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

As previously reported, the Jackson family matriarch is on her way back to Los Angeles from the swanky Miraval spa in Arizona, where she had been holed up for the last week with no telephone or computer access. Katherine likely won't go to the rental house that she had been living in with the children, but will instead head to the Jackson family compound in Encino.

PHOTOS: Michael Jackson’s Kids: Three Years After His Death

"It's time to let cooler heads prevail right now and it's very likely that Katherine will be staying at the Hayvenhurst mansion for the short term," a source close to the situation tells RadarOnline.com. "When Paris spoke to Katherine last night she sounded like she was drunk. Paris repeatedly asked her, are you ok, and Mrs. Jackson was slurring her words. I was told that it appears that Katherine was given alcohol during the time she was staying at Miraval, and remember, it was stated in court today that she had recently been diagnosed with high blood pressure. Katherine is extremely upset and distraught to learn that she lost custody of the children, but is hopeful she will be re-instated as their legal guardian very shortly."

PHOTOS: Michael Jackson's Kids Star In Tribute Concert

As RadarOnline.com previously reported, Katherine's attorney, Perry Sanders told Radar directly after the hearing, "Randy (Jackson) texted me during the court proceedings and said that Katherine was on her way back to Los Angeles. I will be going back to court in the very near future to have her guardianship of Michael Jackson's children re-instated.

Meanwhile, Katherine could face legal obstacles in her bid to retain guardianship of the kids. "If the kids tell TJ they want him to be their primary guardian, he is ready to honor that wish. It's too soon to say what the children want....again, we need to let cooler heads prevail, and all agree on what is best for the children first and foremost. What is evident is that if Katherine does get custody back there will be further things implemented so that something like this doesn't happen again. There is concern for Mrs. Jackson's health at this point, because she is extremely upset with Randy, Janet and Jermaine for getting her into this situation. We have to remember Katherine's age, and this is taking a tremendous toll on her," the source revealed.

 :LolLolLolLol: Reminds me of something...AGAIN  :icon_e_wink:
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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 25, 2012, 07:30:11 PM
Just now on Twitter some are saying that Katherine Jackson will be speaking exclusively on the 5pm news in Tucson in a recorded interview and that she will be on "Good Morning America" tomorrow.

Also some say Sanders talked to her and she seems to be fine and that she´s right now in a car on her way home.
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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 25, 2012, 08:43:07 PM
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Our sources say the prevailing view is that Randy and company have drugged their mom.
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Katherine Jackson seemed drunk when she finally spoke to Michael Jackson's children Tuesday night for the first time in more than a week, and it alarmed the kids because the devout Jehovah's Witness doesn't normally drink alcohol, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting
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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 25, 2012, 09:12:29 PM
I told you once before @Magic Love 4u, we are NOT going to speculate about the health and cognitive ability of Ms. Katherine Jackson. Period. You do it again and I'm giving you a 3 day vacation. Cry censorship or bullying or whatever else you want I don't care. There's a line and that topic crosses it.

It is NOT OK to speculate about the health of MJ's mother. She is MJ's MOTHER. You want someone speculating about YOUR mother's health on a public message board? MJ hoaxed his death. She is helping him but He would NOT put her in danger or her health at risk. Period. Trust that.
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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 26, 2012, 12:14:11 AM
Thank you for sharing this article with us. I don't believe that Katherine is in Tucson but let's say that she is. Why is she driving home? She could fly and be there in about an hour. Instead she's driving and it'll take about 6-8 hours to get home.

I also think this article, once again, smells so "familiar".

Hang on and keep the respect towards Michael's family. Family is family regardless of what we think. I, personally, think they are all fighting very hard for Michael in spite of what people may think of them. Great job.

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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 26, 2012, 01:04:51 AM
"Good Morning America" - "Wake up America"

Security ordered to be fired in the early morning? Oh no, in the evening before dawn / waking up - corrected:
not 2+4=6 but 9.

Security was not really fired - but attempted to get "86 d".
"86 d" is a term from WWII and refers to pieces of warship equipment identified & designated for disposal.
The AT code is AT-6.
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Anything referred to as AT-6 (or by similar phonetic, eighty-six), was to be disposed of in the dumpster. This is where the term became synonymous with throwing something away.
Disposal of something, not of somebody in the world of garbage...

The more we hear about Lady Kath and the kids, the more attention on them, the more untouchable they are.

The gossip made it to our mainstream TV - "greedy, bad siblings".
How predictable they are.
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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 26, 2012, 12:16:26 PM
Wild guess:

Next on TMZ: recording of Katherine´s call with "slurred speech".

ROFL LOL
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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 26, 2012, 01:01:49 PM
Wild guess:

Next on TMZ: recording of Katherine´s call with "slurred speech".

ROFL LOL

Pleeeease TMZ, pleeeeease make it happen! I know you can do it!

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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 26, 2012, 01:03:58 PM
Wild guess:

Next on TMZ: recording of Katherine´s call with "slurred speech".

ROFL LOL

Pleeeease TMZ, pleeeeease make it happen! I know you can do it!

Yes please TMZ. We want one of those magic interactive ARG moments!
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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 26, 2012, 01:30:45 PM
Perhaps Katherine has called and left a voice mail with some random Rabbi that you could uncover, TMZ.
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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 26, 2012, 01:40:03 PM
Perhaps Katherine has called and left a voice mail with some random Rabbi that you could uncover, TMZ.

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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 26, 2012, 01:42:25 PM
lol this is getting crazy, what a ride!

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Re: KATHERINE JACKSON 'DRUGGED' UP

  • on: July 26, 2012, 02:04:56 PM
Wild guess:

Next on TMZ: recording of Katherine´s call with "slurred speech".

ROFL LOL


With the accompanying photo of her drinking from a Coke can    :icon_lol:   ... or a Pepsi can for product placement!

 

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