Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

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Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 09:05:46 AM
Jermaine did say they wanted to add some sort of hollogram on stage at the tribute concert so they could all perform with MJ again.  Look how this duet with Celion Dion and Elvis Presley was done not so long ago.  It's all new technology and special effects, but it looks like he is really there.  
I THINK THATS WHEN MICHAEL JACKSON WILL RETURN....
Is that when MJ jumps out and says "SURPRISE"

PLEASE WATCH THIS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO10pkOLERQ
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 09:50:35 AM
true...I never thought a hologram would cast a shadow...I think this was discussed a while ago at MJKIT, but its not a bad idea to refresh our minds with information on how does a hologram really work.  :)
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 10:03:55 AM
but when will this tour begin?
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 10:42:49 AM
The date has not been set yet from what I've read and heard. But that could change over night.  Would'nt this be amazing.  The brothers all said that there will be many surprises!!!!!
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 10:45:13 AM
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The date has not been set yet for what I've read and heard. But that could change over night.  Would'nt this be amazing.  The brothers all said that there will be many surprises!!!!!
yeah! I can't wait! i hope it is soon because i don't wnt to wait so long! :P
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 10:49:43 AM
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Wow.. Elvis even has a shadow and a reflection on the floor.. :o
Don't know much about the technology used for this (yes hologram I know), but i didn't expect shadows..

In this case, Elvis could only be seen on TV. The audience there could only see the body double performing with Celine Dion. There's also a "making of" of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8zR2nDd ... re=related

But it is possible to project a real hologram to a live stage.
This company does it:
http://www.musion.co.uk/Gorillaz_MTV_Awards.html
Very interesting  :)

EDIT: Just in case you didn'T know: Michael made a full 3D body scan of himself duing the 90ies. So, it's absolutely possible to bring him back on stage - even in gold pants ;-)
http://gizmodo.com/5407507/michael-jack ... 15-million
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 11:03:50 AM
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Wow.. Elvis even has a shadow and a reflection on the floor.. :o
Don't know much about the technology used for this (yes hologram I know), but i didn't expect shadows..

In this case, Elvis could only be seen on TV. The audience there could only see the body double performing with Celine Dion. There's also a "making of" of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8zR2nDd ... re=related

But it is possible to project a real hologram to a live stage.
This company does it:
http://www.musion.co.uk/Gorillaz_MTV_Awards.html
Very interesting  :)

EDIT: Just in case you didn'T know: Michael made a full 3D body scan of himself duing the 90ies. So, it's absolutely possible to bring him back on stage - even in gold pants ;-)
http://gizmodo.com/5407507/michael-jack ... 15-million
But they it could also be directed from a distant location, filmed there and projected on the concert stage.
That was the last edit... I think...
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 11:22:07 AM
really? they are actually going on a tour? i'm disgusted.
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 11:30:16 AM
Unfortunately, there is nothing that those brothers could do(short of having Michael actually there on stage) that would make me go see them on tour.   :lol:

I wouldn't go just to see a hologram.
Sorry Jermaine.   :lol:

Also, didn't they show that on CNN I think for last New Years Eve?
I think they had Will.I.Am from the Black Eyed Peas on as a "live" hologram?
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 11:50:10 AM
i think that thing with celine an elvis was awsome!! had to watch the making of it to..

although if they did it with Michael its a bit soon for this an i think some people would have a heart attack themsleves seriously its wierd..  :shock:  :shock:

then you'd get the speculation of was it him or was it a hologram..  :shock:
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 11:51:44 AM
Hounest I hate this!If we dont get the real Michael back than I want nowone.I am sorry but I find this unrespectful.
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 02:06:53 PM
This is leading me back to all the references to the boloney the media puts out.

If they can fake Elvis being present and singing with Celin Dion, then what else could/would they fake???

Not just with MJ, but other serious world matters?   :shock:

 :(
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 02:11:49 PM
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This is leading me back to all the references to the boloney the media puts out.

If they can fake Elvis being present and singing with Celin Dion, then what else could/would they fake???

Not just with MJ, but other serious world matters?   :shock:

 :(
what do you mean??
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 02:27:15 PM
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This is leading me back to all the references to the boloney the media puts out.

If they can fake Elvis being present and singing with Celin Dion, then what else could/would they fake???

Not just with MJ, but other serious world matters?   :shock:

 :(
what do you mean??


I mean if you can fake people being in certain places at certain times, then it could be made to look like all kinds of things are going on that aren't:

world leaders being killed
people rioting or being injured
anything


It also means that they could present objects as being there that aren't, like tanks, airplanes, weaponry, etc.  Anything they want.  And it could filmed and look REAL because it also has a shadow and other people would see it and react to it.

Also, you have to realize that the media and government don't show us the true "cutting edge" technology.
They keep that for themselves.
They only let "us" have and see what they want - which is probably last decade's throw aways.
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 02:32:42 PM
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This is leading me back to all the references to the boloney the media puts out.

If they can fake Elvis being present and singing with Celin Dion, then what else could/would they fake???

Not just with MJ, but other serious world matters?   :shock:

 :(
what do you mean??


I mean if you can fake people being in certain places at certain times, then it could be made to look like all kinds of things are going on that aren't:

world leaders being killed
people rioting or being injured
anything


It also means that they could present objects as being there that aren't, like tanks, airplanes, weaponry, etc.  Anything they want.  And it could filmed and look REAL because it also has a shadow and other people would see it and react to it.

Also, you have to realize that the media and government don't show us the true "cutting edge" technology.
They keep that for themselves.
They only let "us" have and see what they want - which is probably last decade's throw aways.
but i think people has to do it first to be like that hologram of elvis with celine. Because Elvis already did that song and dance and stuff.. that is just a video. and they took elvis out the video you know. so Elvis has just done it like in that video. So if anyone makes that, there has to be a original video of it. right?
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 02:40:54 PM
michael could have done this instead of himself doing this is it and id have still bought a ticket  :D  :lol:
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 02:49:16 PM
That was incredible. It seemed as if Elvis were there.  When I heard about the story that was leaked about MJ's hologram I immediately thought that the story was put out to justify MJ's return to the stage with the Jackson Four. It ties in perfectly with everything that has happened so far.
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 03:04:56 PM
@ Eva

i totally know where your coming from.. you mean they would have to have an original video of the performance.. like they did with Elvis showing how they did it..

like if he did somet from the dangerous tour we'd all recognise it cos of the tour an the brothers would learn a routine that co-inside with what mike is doin.. not that i believe they could at their age now!!

i still don't like the idea.. i think its too soon!! but i wonder what they could use!!
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 03:27:19 PM
I've always thought that this way the way he was going to come back, ever since I read the story that leaked (rather conveniently) about the hologram.  There have been too many "coincidences" ever since June 25th.  Truthfully speaking it was the only way to get people to listen to his music again without all the prejudice concerning the lies that were spread about him.
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 27, 2009, 06:31:48 PM
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but i think people has to do it first to be like that hologram of elvis with celine. Because Elvis already did that song and dance and stuff.. that is just a video. and they took elvis out the video you know. so Elvis has just done it like in that video. So if anyone makes that, there has to be a original video of it. right?

Well, yes and no.

Considering how easy it is to use actors and computer graphics to superimpose someone else's face on another's body, it's not hard at all to pretend that say Michael and Jermaine are dancing storm troopers from Star Wars.   :lol:
Except if you add better technology, you can make it look MORE real rather than on someone's siggie I saw(it was very cute and funny  :D )

Also, you have to realize that what they used for the Elvis "performance" was a VIDEO of the performance!  Not an actual performance happening somewhere else at that time.  So they added effects to make it look real and current.   At this point you can make a video of almost anything and make it look real - science fiction movies(Harry Potter, War of the Worlds, etc), 3d special effects, etc.  Some effects were also used in TII where they took video of a few of the dancers and then multiplied it so it looked like a whole army. This same video could be turned into a holographic image.  He also used 3d effects for Thriller.

What I'm trying to say(sorry having a hard time finding the words  :oops: ) is that it isn't a concern where they can take a recording of something currently happening or make a special video to use as a hologram - like the Will.I.Am thing.  The concern is that they can take a video that is NOT shot with the purpose of hologram and turn it into one.  Then you can make a hologram of anything.  Hope that makes sense.

I'd be very surprised if it hasn't already been done.
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 28, 2009, 09:35:47 AM
Yes, you do make alot of sense  That's exactly what I was thinking.  They would need to use old footage first,  pre-recorded from the past, then they can place him on stage, during the Jackson 4 concerts, and it could look like he was really there, and then surprise surprise....................Michael Jackson becomes the real thing.  Just like a magician's act, or just like Criss Angel.....Lets see if they use a red curtain drop in their concerts.........................  They did in the 02 conference, didn't they?
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 28, 2009, 09:51:22 AM
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Hounest I hate this!If we dont get the real Michael back than I want nowone.I am sorry but I find this unrespectful.
I agree, when you think about it I do not think that anyone has the right to do this. When Elvis was alive he had a choice who he could perform in front of an audience with and when and doing something like this using the image and performance of an artist to me is not right. So in other words they can use the image and voice of departed artists such as Elvis and Michael and use as and with whom they want? Something wrong here. Is nothing sacred?
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 28, 2009, 09:52:59 AM
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really? they are actually going on a tour? i'm disgusted.

I agree.  Its disgusting.  Jermaine and his cronies disgust me.
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 28, 2009, 10:02:02 AM
So the tour is official or what?  :lol: Thats all? Bummer..
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Re: Will the Jackson 4 tour surprise us with this?????

  • on: December 28, 2009, 01:30:18 PM
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Jermaine did say they wanted to add some sort of hollogram on stage at the tribute concert so they could all perform with MJ again.  Look how this duet with Celion Dion and Elvis Presley was done not so long ago.  It's all new technology and special effects, but it looks like he is really there.  
I THINK THATS WHEN MICHAEL JACKSON WILL RETURN....
Is that when MJ jumps out and says "SURPRISE"

PLEASE WATCH THIS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO10pkOLERQ



whoa!!!  :shock:   That is scary how real he looks!!!!


That would be an amazing surprise :D
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