Dave - Reporter from the Hoax Community - is back

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Dave - Reporter from the Hoax Community - is back

  • on: June 02, 2012, 02:57:13 PM
   

Here is Dave giving us his fresh approach to the hoax, I really like his delivery and sense of humour.  A lot of what he says is sense too!

warning: doubles are mentioned  :icon_e_wink:

Michael Jackson Death Hoax ? Or Reality ? - YouTube

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Michael Jackson Hoax part #2 - YouTube

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Michael,s Hoax WTF !!! - YouTube


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Dave's newest vid, they are getting quite prolific  :icon_lol:

Michael Jackson Death Hoax ???? Or a life saved - YouTube

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It's nice to have guys take an interest.  I disagree about MJ using doubles where it really counts such as the O2 guy or interviews, but only for things like leading paps away, or doing a disappearing act on stage, etc.
The third video -- :icon_lol:

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It's nice to have guys take an interest.  I disagree about MJ using doubles where it really counts such as the O2 guy or interviews, but only for things like leading paps away, or doing a disappearing act on stage, etc.
The third video -- :icon_lol:

Agree with you.
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It's nice to have guys take an interest.  I disagree about MJ using doubles where it really counts such as the O2 guy or interviews, but only for things like leading paps away, or doing a disappearing act on stage, etc.
The third video -- :icon_lol:



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interesting point about the deposition michael in the first video. that one always struck me as pretty strange. and he couldn't read his own notes  :icon_eek:
this idea could possibly mesh with the feelings some have been getting about murray. personally my own impressions of murray lead me back to a much younger michael. just a thought
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Yes, Sir!

You tell 'em Dave.   :icon_lol:

We might not have seen Michael in a very long time...that´s right.
You and I were never separate

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ok that last one was down right strange. :WTF: maybe the guy was just havin a little fun but  :icon_rolleyes:
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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im liking this for the simple reason that its nice to see someone other than pearl reporting...

he makes interesting points and i will continue to follow. however i dont agree with some of what he reports. though his perspective does shake it up a little.


the thing that i dont get that if a double died, then that would be your answer to slipping away into the unknown and a chance to live a quiet life. (if that were the motive) why then would the family / MJ / others involved draw so much attention and raise specualtion / suspicsion about his death when they would have had the perfect circumtances for MJ to live in peace (again, if that were his motive)

because, it wasnt his motive. we know his motive wasnt to slip away there is a lesson / story / movie in all of this which is why the family / MJ / others involved are making us think about the death. having said all that, it then raises the validity of double theory. the double not needed to pull off DH.

also, if the 'double died' as suggested by dave, how come there were clues starting to set framework for DH back in invincible days (lyrics) and possibly back in history days. sorry i dont buy it. a double never died on 25.6.09

it is planned. this is not reactive to the death of a double. this is a proactive mission.

i do respect that he is asking the questions and looking for answers, in fact i respect all hoaxers, however i dont agree with most of the video content. i have only watched the first video. im going to keep watchin'


« Last Edit: June 02, 2012, 09:58:58 PM by Australian MJ BeLIEver »
People laugh when I explain. And though they may laugh, that doesn't change the fact that it's still the truth.


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unless none of it is his doing and he is somehow trapped by this whole hoax idea , especially if someone else did die that day :icon_pale: :errrr:
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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unless none of it is his doing and he is somehow trapped by this whole hoax idea , especially if someone else did die that day :icon_pale: :errrr:

you mean a forced hoax? by whom?

what about the clues given by mj in invincible - are you suggesting he was trapped into that? (invincible may seem trivial to bring up amongst all the other clues. but it demonstrates forward planning. also musically MJ would never do something he didnt agree to or believe in.)

this has MJ written all over it.

sorry suspicious. i dont believe that, but if you have ideas on the why's? who's and how's then i am keen to listen...
« Last Edit: June 02, 2012, 08:59:28 PM by Australian MJ BeLIEver »
People laugh when I explain. And though they may laugh, that doesn't change the fact that it's still the truth.


Michael is Alive
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in response to this video, not that dave is watching or reading... (or perhaps he is who knows)

agree that MJ has and used doubles / decoys for years, especially to throw off paps, perhaps in concerts when required etc

dont agree that doubles were used in 02 arena

dont agree that we havent seen the real michael since bad days

i respect him as a hoaxer but feel that some of his reasonings are a little one dimensional. almost as if he is worn out, tired and given up on digging because he is at a brick wall.

he says he has moved on, but really the fact the creates more videos shows that the cogs are still going when it comes to MJs death. but i do feel that some of his explainations are healf hearted.. "this explanation will have to do" attitude.

i mean it has been a long time. people are getting tired. but i dont agree with mediocrecy when wanting the truth...
« Last Edit: June 02, 2012, 10:00:39 PM by Australian MJ BeLIEver »
People laugh when I explain. And though they may laugh, that doesn't change the fact that it's still the truth.


Michael is Alive
The end of evil is nigh
Trust in God
The righteous will prevail

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in response to this video, not that dave is watching or reading... (or perhaps he is who knows)

agree that MJ has and used doubles especially to throw off paps, perhaps in concerts when required etc

dont agree that doubles were used in 02 arena

dont agree that we havent seen the real michael since bad days

i respect him as a hoaxer but feel that some of his reasonings are a little one dimensional. almost as if he is work out tired and given up on answers because he is at a brick wall.

he says he has moved on, but really the fact the creates more videos shows that the cogs are still going when it comes to MJ
. but i do feel that some of his explainations are healf hearted.. "this explanation will do" attitude.

i mean it has been a long time. people are getting tired. but i dont agree with mediocrecy when wanting the truth...
yeah that being stated in the first one and then making follow ups is kind of odd
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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unless none of it is his doing and he is somehow trapped by this whole hoax idea , especially if someone else did die that day :icon_pale: :errrr:

you mean a forced hoax? by whom?

what about the clues given by mj in invincible - are you suggesting he was trapped into that? (invincible may seem trivial to bring up amongst all the other clues. but it demonstrates forward planning. also musically MJ would never do something he didnt agree to or believe in.)

this has MJ written all over it.

sorry suspicious. i dont believe that, but if you have ideas on the why's? who's and how's then i am keen to listen...

somedays anymore i just don't know what to think. but i have faith and hope in the one who holds the future (as the lyrics go) that it will be alright.
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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I also disagree about the doubles. People's images can change within even half a day because it depends on lighting, angles, if it a photo was taken with the same camera or a different camera.. make up or not makeup, when the make up is changed even slightly can make a change. I have photographs from the last 12 months where i look 17 I have others that make me look 40, some I look completely different and that's just different hair styles or I have used different make up or a different angles.

I went through this is it frame by frame when it came to the different clothed people and they were all Michael, I wondered why he looked so different, he seems more female in two songs.. I noticed he looked less female when the lighting changed from Blue. Also realized he was making cues at times to those involved in the lighting, instruments and singing, I think some were when he was rusty the ones where they have already stated was the 23rd and 24th June, were when he got "warmed up" and back into it and was more fluid with his moves. Glasses were possibly due to a day night sleep the night before and didn't feel like showing the bags under his eyes or could have been eye strain.

The photo's through the years would have been off days he had,wrong angels, different camera's  we all have bad days and angles that make us look different and i think they are being analysed too much but I don't know if it's even relevant to the hoax anyways since there is no photographs that show the same angle on the 25th June or after.

I don't know I just feel that his likeness is being focus'd on a lot when we didn't even have a good visual of him after or on the 25th of June, only some side view and unfocused different angled view. Probably explained myself wrong again but I think I made the point....?
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Leilani81, for 3 years we've analyzed MJ pics for doubles, etc., and you who just joined, summed it up nicely! IMO :D

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interesting point about the deposition michael in the first video. that one always struck me as pretty strange. and he couldn't read his own notes

But I’ve sometimes gone back to my writing and couldn’t make out some words. :icon_e_confused:

I agree, Aussie! It seems strange to me that often people who have been fans of MJ since forever often don’t see the forest for the trees (MJ's 21 year hoax plan), and people who jumped in at the ‘death’ time weren’t so blinded and could see the connections in his lyrics, etc. more easily. Notice how most on this forum don’t call themselves ‘fans’ per say, getting caught up in the general MJ fan frenzy.

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For me he looks like Tom Gregory, the guy who made the youtube video about the christmas decoration at the carolwood gates....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Gregory_(producer)

He is a fighter for human rights. Why should he made this funny videos if there is no deeper meaning after it ?

Micheal Jackson's Death House - YouTube

The kind he talk and act....in the first minute i saw the video of this Dave i thought that this is the guy from the gates...

See at Wikipedia...he teaches acting classes for pre teens....he rearly can be in it !

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For me he looks like Tom Gregory, the guy who made the youtube video about the christmas decoration at the carolwood gates....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Gregory_(producer)

He is a fighter for human rights. Why should he made this funny videos if there is no deeper meaning after it ?

Micheal Jackson's Death House - YouTube

The kind he talk and act....in the first minute i saw the video of this Dave i thought that this is the guy from the gates...

See at Wikipedia...he teaches acting classes for pre teens....he rearly can be in it !

yeah! yeah !yeah! i thought it felt like that guy (not that i've ever felt that guy ( borrowed that from it's her)  :icon_lol:)
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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I also disagree about the doubles. People's images can change within even half a day because it depends on lighting, angles, if it a photo was taken with the same camera or a different camera.. make up or not makeup, when the make up is changed even slightly can make a change. I have photographs from the last 12 months where i look 17 I have others that make me look 40, some I look completely different and that's just different hair styles or I have used different make up or a different angles.

I went through this is it frame by frame when it came to the different clothed people and they were all Michael, I wondered why he looked so different, he seems more female in two songs.. I noticed he looked less female when the lighting changed from Blue. Also realized he was making cues at times to those involved in the lighting, instruments and singing, I think some were when he was rusty the ones where they have already stated was the 23rd and 24th June, were when he got "warmed up" and back into it and was more fluid with his moves. Glasses were possibly due to a day night sleep the night before and didn't feel like showing the bags under his eyes or could have been eye strain.

The photo's through the years would have been off days he had,wrong angels, different camera's  we all have bad days and angles that make us look different and i think they are being analysed too much but I don't know if it's even relevant to the hoax anyways since there is no photographs that show the same angle on the 25th June or after.

I don't know I just feel that his likeness is being focus'd on a lot when we didn't even have a good visual of him after or on the 25th of June, only some side view and unfocused different angled view. Probably explained myself wrong again but I think I made the point....?

I totally agree with you.
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The video's are gone....please think that here.....is a sad sad smiley....because i only can make quick reply's without smiley's....
Hey Tom, i loved your video's....please stay !

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awww :(

Every persons perspective of events is crucial in the building blocks, Not everything in a thought, theory or a view will make a whole picture but a picture isn't made with one small detail, a master peice is made with many details.

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Dave is back again, but is now Christopher  :icon_lol:

The Michael Jackson Illusion 0001 - YouTube

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 :th_bravo:
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Dave is back again, but is now Christopher  :icon_lol:

The Michael Jackson Illusion 0001 - YouTube

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 Hey  guys, maybe I heard it Wrong but around 07:07 Dave said something about Mj being a Child Molester :WTF: If so, I for sure will stop seeing his videos. am I the only one that heard this??Or did I missunderstood him??

                                                                                                                                                                                     
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Dave is back again, but is now Christopher  :icon_lol:

The Michael Jackson Illusion 0001 - YouTube

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 Hey  guys, maybe I heard it Wrong but around 07:07 Dave said something about Mj being a Child Molester :WTF: If so, I for sure will stop seeing his videos. am I the only one that heard this??Or did I missunderstood him??

                                                                                                                                                                                     

He did say it, but he said it in the sense of he was listed as child molester but I don't think Dave thinks Michael was a real child molester.
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