MJ and Dave Dave Voice Comparison - Using same words

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Hey Everyone, I was watching the Mexican Deposition tapes and noticed him say "Encino House" -  "Dave Dave' also said it on the Larry King show. I've made a quick 30 second video so you can hear them back to back -

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwkXpQzH5oI[/youtube]

I hope this post was made in the right place. Sorry if it wasn't.
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Hi and welcome on the forum!

Nice catch! good video! :icon_albino: :icon_e_wink:

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I wish there was more of this kind of voice comparisons done by those able to do this, just like we have done with pics and hand-writing.
Thanks acidlabs!

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Someone should put a simple video making tutorial on here so others can do it. It really is simple and every computer should have the software built in. :moonwalk_:
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Welcome in this family and thanks for sharing this video !!!  :icon_razz:  :moonwalk_:
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Hello @acidlabz.... you are bringing bright ideas to this forum!   :compute:

Welcome here..  :bearhug: :bearhug: :bearhug:
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You know, I've debated how this has been possible for a long time, including the prosthetics...listening to this, along with Michael's speech pattern, try this one on for size:

A shot of Novacaine in the left side of the left lip, to make it hang like that (OUCH, having that done next week - but can work for hours at a time).

Microphone was intentionally turned UP on the treble, to sharpen his voice, to help mask his voice. If I had the proper sound equipment, I could tell if the voices were within the same range. Geez, hasn't any pro done it by now!?

We all know about the nose being straighter than DDs, the eyes being the wrong color (even dark eyes will show through lighter contact lenses a bit. I have fun with contacts). But also the scarring is off.

Also - I was taken back by the funeral playing while he was in the studio? What time was it - why was he there, if the funeral was going on? Wait - is that why the Jackson family was LATE by several hours?

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Yeah, even Teddy Riley and Akon think he might be alive. Surely they were at the funeral and had quite a bit to do with everything. Also, why can't they just get Dave Dave in for another interview and get him to pull his face and show us how he sings. I reckon I could tell if Michael was pretending to sing badly. There is a video of "Dave Dave" sitting in the back of a car talking to the camera.. I think it was supposed to be on the way to the funeral.
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We've Got Drug Addiction, In The Minds Of The Weak, We've Got So Much Corruption, Police Brutality. We've Got Streetwalkers, Walkin' Into Darkness, Tell Me, What Are We Doin', To Try To Stop This? Why You Wanna Trip On Me?

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Very good comparison.  Welcome btw.  Here is another comparison with the "ands":

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv0btJPhF48[/youtube]

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I managed to have a good talk with a fellow audiophile friend of mine tonight. We both agreed that Protools could be used, to compare. I did NOT tell him what I'm doing, or he wouldn't help me. I told him it was like an old horror movie, and I was trying to see which famous actor wasn't credited. My father was even uncredited on a Disney cartoon, but I sure know his laugh.

I'd like TEN words grouped together 2 or three phrases. Each person saying these same words. This is fairly close to how real voice identification is done.

I need the AUDIO, not video, unless I can perhaps swing Final Cut Pro, or something else I've been trained on. I just must SEE the actual wave forms themselves: clean, clear, and without music added! I cannot work with that interference - it muddies the signal.

Have you all noticed? Anyone with recording software hasn't been stepping forward with this info - directly.

"At the Encino House" is almost half of what we need - a complete phrase unto itself! Surely with all that "Dave Dave" talked about, there must be much more that was said, that they both said at different times. 3 words together here, 4 words together there.

In this, I really need your help, if you'd really like to get to the bottom of this. I'm talking about LIVE footage, that I can scope!

With the Encino house phrase, we are 40% there.

Because I can tell you one thing: NO ONE's voice is exactly the same as someone else's. You can make it sharper, make it deeper, make it lower. But it will still have the same waveform.
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Yep that's true @Tink... that's why the police use the recorded tapes to catch criminals and wrongdoers!   :icon_rolleyes:
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...

Also - I was taken back by the funeral playing while he was in the studio? What time was it - why was he there, if the funeral was going on? Wait - is that why the Jackson family was LATE by several hours?

Yes, that's an interesting thought and it makes sense as to why the Jacksons were so late, leaving the other 'funeral guests' waiting for so long.

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even to use that phrase at all when identifing that home might be important in itself. like do any of the others refer to the property that way. did michael always refer to it that way. ect.
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Very good comparison.  Welcome btw.  Here is another comparison with the "ands":

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv0btJPhF48[/youtube]
wow! I've seen it before but it's always good to see it again. And I LOVE the background song  :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:

...I wanna be where you are Michael :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:

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No doubt that is Michael's voice  :icon_e_biggrin:
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Yep that's true @Tink... that's why the police use the recorded tapes to catch criminals and wrongdoers!   :icon_rolleyes:

It's also how I made O.J. Simpson say "Football" instead of "Baseball," but that's another situation entirely. It was only his voice, and absolutely no one else's. I had to put it together phonetically from the library of the tape itself.

That's why I have the confidence of matching the wave forms, since I used to co-own a sound studio, in the early '90s. Not much has really changed, when it comes to voices. You can see everyone's voices as a different form, when mixing...why I'm sure I can do this, with studio monitors. I can calibrate, cut the sharpness for the ears from being irritating, since each channel has its own mixer, bring it in line - and watch the forms.

I know the software the police use...it's licensed.
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Every time I see a video of Michael emotion is immense  :icon_cry:, as was the first time  that I see one of his video  :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile.... Thanx for sharing and...Michael...come back soon !!! :moonwalk_: :bearhug:
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I managed to have a good talk with a fellow audiophile friend of mine tonight. We both agreed that Protools could be used, to compare. I did NOT tell him what I'm doing, or he wouldn't help me. I told him it was like an old horror movie, and I was trying to see which famous actor wasn't credited. My father was even uncredited on a Disney cartoon, but I sure know his laugh.

I'd like TEN words grouped together 2 or three phrases. Each person saying these same words. This is fairly close to how real voice identification is done.

I need the AUDIO, not video, unless I can perhaps swing Final Cut Pro, or something else I've been trained on. I just must SEE the actual wave forms themselves: clean, clear, and without music added! I cannot work with that interference - it muddies the signal.

Have you all noticed? Anyone with recording software hasn't been stepping forward with this info - directly.

"At the Encino House" is almost half of what we need - a complete phrase unto itself! Surely with all that "Dave Dave" talked about, there must be much more that was said, that they both said at different times. 3 words together here, 4 words together there.

In this, I really need your help, if you'd really like to get to the bottom of this. I'm talking about LIVE footage, that I can scope!

With the Encino house phrase, we are 40% there.

Because I can tell you one thing: NO ONE's voice is exactly the same as someone else's. You can make it sharper, make it deeper, make it lower. But it will still have the same waveform.

Not using the same words but sounds so much like the same inflections.  Don't know if this will help, I'll try to find some with both using the same words...

At 7:26 "we'd wake up (at) like dawn and go in the hot air balloon"
Living with Michael jackson Part 9 - YouTube

Compare to 2:48 "and there were all these Paul McCartney records, The Girl is Mine..."
Dave Dave: Michael Jackson Was Like A Father To Me - YouTube

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Good job thanx for the video,  :th_bravo: but i have no doubt that this is Michaels voice. :)

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It's nice = I've heart it before. But I need a certain amount of degrees that aren't separated to prove it beyond the shadow of a doubt. Otherwise, it's just conjecture.
Black & Proud! I'm like the Oracle/Batgirl, who helps Batman in the comic books. I believe in "Comic Book justice."


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Hey Everyone, I was watching the Mexican Deposition tapes and noticed him say "Encino House" -  "Dave Dave' also said it on the Larry King show. I've made a quick 30 second video so you can hear them back to back -

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwkXpQzH5oI[/youtube]

I hope this post was made in the right place. Sorry if it wasn't.

lol. mj was dave dave on the larry king show. i saw a picture of the same "dave dave" from LKL and he was wearing the same jacket that mj had. look at his stomache and the shirt under the jacket. the skin on this stomache doesn't match the face nor the arms. the shirt looks like one of mj's too.

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Very good comparison.  Welcome btw.  Here is another comparison with the "ands":

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv0btJPhF48[/youtube]


i love this video. this is like a "concentrated shot" of hoaxy goodness. 


i mean nothing in it is new. but just really love it for some reason. thanks for sharing

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Very good comparison.  Welcome btw.  Here is another comparison with the "ands":

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv0btJPhF48[/youtube]


i love this video. this is like a "concentrated shot" of hoaxy goodness. 


i mean nothing in it is new. but just really love it for some reason. thanks for sharing

mwah mwah shamone!!!

wow i haven't seen this video, but the ands and the ums do sound just alike.. they're identical! it's michael.. lol (laughs).

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q89anPZdLds[/youtube] this is the same dave dave but they show him walking somewhere..and he's talking...and well.. idk i know it's not the real dave dave for sure. it might be mj.. might not be..but i do know how they speak seems alot like mj and that his body language is the same..the walk..idk about that..i'm still thinking that the blonde woman in the audience was mj too at his memorial/whatever that was on tv.but when i looked at that still picture of the woman..there was a little girl that looked like her but had brown hair, and 2 other kids that looked like her too, and that man that was sitting next to the blonde woman. so idk. mj was there somewhere. then people keep saying it was the old man with the fedora hat. idk it's possible.the guy did resemble mj when he was slouched down in his seat. he's dressed up looking like that before but not in a grey beard.

 

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