Forest Lawn’s response about June 25 & releasing butterflies

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The way they answer questions certainy leaves a lot of space for speculation.  How can anyone STILL believe that Michael  is there.   :Pulling_hair: This is from Twitlounge and coud not be copied, so here’s the link.  What do you think  :icon_eek:

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/gt0trs
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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RT Regarding the Monarch4Michael butterfly release event on facebook-

I left this question regarding their event Facebook page -


Several people have asked us if this butterfly release event, (which is extremely lovely idea) has been cleared with the adminstrators of Forest Lawn ? Someone had attempted to release doves before and they were thwarted by Forest Lawn.. and this is why the question has arose. - Buds

Siren Lovesmj answereed -

I personally contacted the person in charge. She told me that they can not officially clear anything in regards to Michael Jackson, since out of respect for the family they are not even allowed to confirm that He is laid to rest there, but that if I wish to release butterflies at Holly Terrace, I may ♥

Link - https://www.facebook.com/events/369231616434145/

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, still?? After 3 years and the whole circus at Forest Lawn they STILL can't confirm he's laid to rest there?

Okay...

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Thats just one step short of admitting openly that Michael is not there.  Like if y’all want to spend money to buy and release Monarch butterflies at a crypt with no name and no guaranteed contents, then just be my guest  :icon_lol:  I know they are like “geez, what a bunch of dopes and cuckoos”.  :LolLolLolLol:
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   and leaving me Speechless!

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Great stuff @hesouttamylife thank you for posting this info. BTW aren't Monarch butterflies an endangered species?                               

                                           
 

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She told me that they can not officially clear anything in regards to Michael Jackson, since out of respect for the family they are not even allowed to confirm that He is laid to rest there, but that if I wish to release butterflies at Holly Terrace, I may



And this does not draw your attention ???


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I needed this good news!!

@hesouttamylife: tks for posting!

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Do not blame them for it, they really believe that Michael is there and just want to show their love. I just think that way you can close your mouth so many employees of the Forest Lawn? and nobody has messed up yet?  :moonwalk_:

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I wonder when is the last time anyone from Michael’s family was there “visiting his crypt”?  Anyone heard anything?  That should send some kind of message.  It’s not like they would have have to travel across country or anything.   :smiley-vault-misc-150:
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
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   and leaving me Speechless!

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MONARCH Butterflies?????

As a person who spent Easter Weekend researching MK ULTRA Programming, this just CREEPS ME OUT..............!!!!!!

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Monarchs are on their way up from Mexico now! I just love them.
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oh boy, can imagine what proponents of conspiracy theories will say...'
- Monarch programming! Mind control! Now it's for sure, MJ was killed by illuminati!...

in short, butterflies is a bad idea ; )
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will YOU still care? will YOU be there??.. ah, well, sure... life is not a song...

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oh boy, can imagine what proponents of conspiracy theories will say...'
- Monarch programming! Mind control! Now it's for sure, MJ was killed by illuminati!...

in short, butterflies is a bad idea ; )

Then what am I to do with my gossamer wings?  :thjajaja121:
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Butterflies are also associated with ANGELS.
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Butterflies are also associated with ANGELS.

Butterflies are symbolism of
Resurrection
Transition
Celebration
Lightness
Time
Soul

Sums up the MJ hoax perfectly, me thinks

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I was also stunned when i heard about the butterflie -release in 25.6 2012. My friends were visiting Forest lawn from other side of this planet and they didn't think it wasn't anything weird about it... Only I was thinking, monarch butterflies setting free in Michaels "death day", interresting! I'm happy that you were also picked that thing up, I'm so alone with my thoughts here.

Monarch  butterflies have been up in this hoax at least in:
This is it's earth song
Immortal poster
elsewhere?

I'm also thinking about MK Ultra and don't now yet what to think. Rebirth, maybe. And that it's kind of manipulating (not mindcontrol) how he plays with the whole world. Maybe the point is point that up? But maybe he is happy that we question these things. But it's true that "
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, still?? After 3 years and the whole circus at Forest Lawn they STILL can't confirm he's laid to rest there?" :D People believe it if it's on the papers and tv.