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Raffles van Exel knew no shame: lied to Michael Jackson and created a scam in the name of the 9/11 victims duping Jermaine JacksonPosted: 2012/04/03 in Michael Jackson, Rafles van Exel, Whitney Houston


In the early years of the 21st century Raffles van Exel had landed firmly in the camp of The Jacksons. Having wangled his way up via a relationship with toyboy loving David Geffen and a live in friendship he struck up with David Gest (who had been involved with Michael Jackson as a producer during the promotion of “Invincible”.)
The first Jackson Exel got friendly with was Jermaine and soon he spun his web.
Through Jermaine Exel got in a seat of power and was soon involved with everyone from Jesse Jackson to Minister Louis Farrakhan, leader of African-American movement the Nation of Islam, of which Jermaine was a short term member.
Riding the wave of David Gest he too now claimed he was a “producer”. He was involved with many of the troubled recordings Michael Jackson made – including “What More Can I Give” and the bad move of shipping Michael Jackson to Bahrain that subsequently landed Michael in a lawsuit. Exel and Dr. Tohme Tohme had made the arrangements of the trip supposedly with Jermaine. The reality was that the con man were telling the Jackson brothers a different story then they told Prince Al Khalifa, making quite a bit of profit. As far as Michael and Jermaine were concerned the Prince was helping Michael as a friend. But the Prince believed the money would be repaid once Jackson and his career recovered from the damaging trial and that Michael would be recording his (the Prince’s) songs in a studio he set up for him. We all know the end results. It is thought that the cons had expected Michael to be dead before the truth surfaced. Meanwhile Exel also got Michael involved with Marc Schaffel who turned out to be a maker of gay porn.
This all fits in to what Michael’s sister LaToya said at the time of her brothers death. She blamed a shadowy entourage’ of manipulative hangers-on for effectively ‘murdering’ the King of Pop. She believes her brother was fed addictive drugs by handlers who wanted to control his moods. She says they regarded him as a ‘cash cow’ and exploited him at every turn. It was this, she believes, that led directly to his death.
It could be that Conrad Murray was just a pawn used by Dr. Tohme Tohme and Exel. Especially after what LaToya told CCN before: Hours after Michael’s death the Jackson family received a troubling call from the Jackson mansion. It was Michael’s long-term assistant Michael Amin. He told LaToya that her brother’s Lebanese-born, self-appointed business manager Dr Tohme Tohme had fired all the staff at the Beverly Hills property and at a second rented home in Las Vegas. ‘I want to know how Michael died, and then, at 11pm on the day he dies, all the staff are fired?’ she asked rhetorically. ‘That raised my suspicions.’ … While Michael regularly kept up to £1million in cash inside his home, LaToya says none was found. Nor was any of his vast collection of jewellery”. The house was cleaned. Says LaToya: “Someone went in there and did a good job.” Meanwhile soon after Raffles van Exel was talking to the media, including RTL Boulevard, about how upset he was, how he was helping and comforting the family and was with them when he heard. The same routine happened later with Witney Houston. Recently during a visit to “The View”, LaToya was asked about her brother, Michael Jackson’s murder. LaToya goes into detail about her possibly knowing who the suspect is. Sherry Sheppard then stops Latoya and asks her “Well, if you know who it is, why can’t you say a name?” And just as Latoya was about to say something, Whoopi Goldberg shakes her head and says Uh-Uh. At that point, Latoya then starts laughing and then the clip ends. Strange.

Rewinding back to 2002, it turns out Michael wasn’t the only one who landed into trouble thanks to Exel. Raffles was still posing as a producer back then and had talked Jermaine into creating a memorial concert for the victims, survivors and relatives of 9/11. It was dreamed up: the concert would be attended by George Bush and Bill Clinton, the stage would be build on the Pentagon. The Backstreet Boys and Whitney Houston would perform. Exel felt as if he had struck gold and wanted his old country of Holland to see how big he had become. He got Jermaine to call Dutch stars Conie “Vanessa” Breukhoven and Jody Benal to take part in the concert. The same week Raffles made his first appearance on RTL Boulevard, Jermaine even appeared to verify for him. Jermaine verified Exel to Dutch paper De Telegraaf as well. Soon Holland was mesmerised by the news: Two Dutch stars would sing for the president and the former president. Connie said she had never heard of Raffles before this, but that Raffles said he had been impressed by seeing her perform on the show of gay star Carlo Boszhard. Connie even received phone calls from Jermaine to discuss the concert in detail. It even transpired the Dutch singer would be performing with Michael Jackson himself. Jermaine and Exel had written a song called “Why oh why”. Connie aid at the time: “The big final starts. Fife hundred children rise from the stage pointing with fluorescent hands to Michael Jackson who starts the song giving the microphone to everyone including me.”
It sounded amazing, but it wasn’t too be. Jody was the first one to be dumped: “Too many boys”. Exel claimed. Breukhoven, married to a multimillionaire lingered a little longer. Whispers say this was because Raffles got quite a substantial sum from Connie’s husband to fund the concert.
Breukhoven even got the song she would be involved in. She was asked to fly to America to record her lines. She thought it was silly to fly all the way to the USA to record a few lines and Raffles came to her to record her in a Dutch studio. After that she never heard from him again. she called him several times a day. Then he called back a few days before the concert saying that NBC had decided not to use “Why oh why”, because Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston and the Backstreet Boys had cancelled at the last moment. Whitney was unable to talk or do anything, Michael was to busy after just winning an award. And the Backstreet boys were on the verge of splitting up.
He said the concert would continue without her or the world famous artists.

Meanwhile here is the video for his single “We got it All”

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My question is, why no one has talked about this dude before the Whitney Houston ?
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I wonder about the "no entrapment" button here.
In fact I don't see any but I might be blind for the moment.

However I think we are watching a true master at work.
As we have seen, no name or occurrence was by accident.
So I looked up the name of this guy.


Raffles -> Raphael
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This unusual name has two possible origins, each with its own distinctive history and derivation. Firstly, as an English surname, Raffels is one of the patronymic forms of the name Raffel (the "-s" suffix representing a reduced form of "son of"), which was developed from the Hebrew male given name "Refael", composed of the elements "rafa", to heal, and "el", God. This was the name borne by one of the archangels, and was comparatively popular as a given name among Christians in the Middle Ages, partly due to the part played by the angel in the Apochryphal tale of Tobias.
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Raffles (also known as Lord Lister) is a fictional character who first appeared in a German You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login entitled "Lord Lister, genannt Raffles, der Meisterdieb" published in 1908.
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Raffles was a Victorian gentleman and a born member of nobility. The first issue of the original German series reveals that the notorious thief John C. Raffles is really Lord Edward Lister. A number of different, somewhat conflicting origin stories exist to explain why a genuine Lord would become a thief, involving having been robbed from his inheritance, poverty in childhood, boredom or overindulgence in charity. With his secret identity exposed Raffles is forced to create and maintain a large number of false ones, of which the main one is Lord William Aberdeen. Depending on the origin story this title could be genuine, the name and identity are false.
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"Lord Lister aka Raffles, the big unknown"


I wonder why the "gay" theme is coming back again.
I wonder why the "thief" theme is popping up again.
If both are important, then could the real gay thief please stand up ?
Last Edit: April 09, 2012, 03:32:30 PM by Grace
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Create your day. Create the most astounding year of your life. Be the change you want to see in the world! L.O.V.E.
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"I am tired, I am really tired of manipulation." Michael Jackson, Harlem, New York, NY, July 6, 2002
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MissG

( Oh, that video...

Raffles is dancing on the yellow brick road---->clue :) )

So, if the pic is shopped, that would mean that this man needed to fake pics to gain popularity. Poor.

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Michael pls come back


"Why a four-year-old child could understand this hoax. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head nor tail out of it"

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Raffles, the bad guy, popped in at the right time.


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I wonder about the "no entrapment" button here.
In fact I don't see any but I might be blind for the moment.

However I think we are watching a true master at work.
As we have seen, no name or occurrence was by accident.
So I looked up the name of this guy.


Raffles -> Raphael
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This unusual name has two possible origins, each with its own distinctive history and derivation. Firstly, as an English surname, Raffels is one of the patronymic forms of the name Raffel (the "-s" suffix representing a reduced form of "son of"), which was developed from the Hebrew male given name "Refael", composed of the elements "rafa", to heal, and "el", God. This was the name borne by one of the archangels, and was comparatively popular as a given name among Christians in the Middle Ages, partly due to the part played by the angel in the Apochryphal tale of Tobias.
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Raffles (also known as Lord Lister) is a fictional character who first appeared in a German You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login entitled "Lord Lister, genannt Raffles, der Meisterdieb" published in 1908.
[...]
Raffles was a Victorian gentleman and a born member of nobility. The first issue of the original German series reveals that the notorious thief John C. Raffles is really Lord Edward Lister. A number of different, somewhat conflicting origin stories exist to explain why a genuine Lord would become a thief, involving having been robbed from his inheritance, poverty in childhood, boredom or overindulgence in charity. With his secret identity exposed Raffles is forced to create and maintain a large number of false ones, of which the main one is Lord William Aberdeen. Depending on the origin story this title could be genuine, the name and identity are false.
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"Lord Lister aka Raffles, the big unknown"


I wonder why the "gay" theme is coming back again.
I wonder why the "thief" theme is popping up again.
If both are important, then could the real gay thief please stand up ?

The Raphael thing...for it's been said, angels oft disguise themselves as slight rascals, to throw humans off their trail. For everyone expects an angel to be perfect and pure - never left of center.

So, theoretically - we just might have two + Archangels in our midsts!?

Which would mean the one I've been calling "Snow Angel," would be Gabriel!?

Gabriel means: Strength of God"; "The Divine is my strength"; "God is my strength"
The only Archangel depicted as female in art and literature, Gabriel is known as the "messenger" Angel and is one of the four Archangels named in Hebrew tradition and is considered one of the two highest-ranking Angels in Judeo-Christian and Islamic religious lore. Apart from Michael, she is the only Angel mentioned by name in the Old Testament.  She is a powerful and strong Archangel, and those who call upon her will find themselves pushed into action that leads to beneficial results.

Messenger. She's the only female! She was sending messages at the gates of Neverland, I just don't understand them completely! She was hiding under another guise, to throw people off! :o

Is there something, someone calling all the Archangels out?
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Remember this pic from Front?



Just thinking it might be connected to Raffles, coming from Netherlands we are told.  Front indicates that events are happening according to timing and as they should.
I'm not sure if the pic was in this post or the next one. This one included 3 pics, one of fingers walking on yellow pages, one of a 3-eyed martian from Toy Story, and the Yellow road in Netherlands (I think).

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Let your fingers do the walkin'……….

Let your eyes do the watchin'……….

Speculate and conspire as you may. Allow me to reiterate…..do not take my words/numbers/dates as conclusive evidence. It's apparent that you don't---and that's a positive. The PROOF will manifest itself upon the proclamation of his return and during this journey together. You'll see. Regardless of "ASS"umptions, I wish you all well…but I will NOT tolerate another attempt at a mentality beating on a board. Had enough of that "Back" then.


or this one? It doesn't show there was pics, but I think it refers to the pic --letter 'N'.

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Did anyone see him live on Ustream a few minutes ago? :lol:

Re: yellow brick road…..

Might want to check your local bookstore for a  world atlas and HIStorical reference books. Flip to the country index and look under "N".

Where the end of one road starts----> another one begins………….
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Remember this pic from Front?



Just thinking it might be connected to Raffles, coming from Netherlands we are told.  Front indicates that events are happening according to timing and as they should.
I'm not sure if the pic was in this post or the next one. This one included 3 pics, one of fingers walking on yellow pages, one of a 3-eyed martian from Toy Story, and the Yellow road in Netherlands (I think).

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on: June 17, 2011, 09:48:34 AM »

Let your fingers do the walkin'……….

Let your eyes do the watchin'……….

Speculate and conspire as you may. Allow me to reiterate…..do not take my words/numbers/dates as conclusive evidence. It's apparent that you don't---and that's a positive. The PROOF will manifest itself upon the proclamation of his return and during this journey together. You'll see. Regardless of "ASS"umptions, I wish you all well…but I will NOT tolerate another attempt at a mentality beating on a board. Had enough of that "Back" then.


or this one? It doesn't show there was pics, but I think it refers to the pic --letter 'N'.

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on: June 10, 2011, 11:16:19 AM »
Did anyone see him live on Ustream a few minutes ago? :lol:

Re: yellow brick road…..

Might want to check your local bookstore for a  world atlas and HIStorical reference books. Flip to the country index and look under "N".

Where the end of one road starts----> another one begins………….

This is the Yellow Brick Road in The Netherlands:

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Tuesday, August 17, 2010
Yellow Brick Road - Netherlands
 


The city of Schiedam was and remains to this day, the poorest city in the Netherlands and the Yellow Brick Road, that connects the center of the city to the new train station, is not only meant to make the city more beautiful, but also to symbolize the road to prosperity and success.
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Regarding Gabriel, i only read references as the archangel represented as a woman withing some English spoken sites related to angels, not within History of Art. In fact, they (archangel, angel, serafin...) are supposed to be asexual. So their looks are open to interpretation.

Indirectly this talk makes me think of Michael and how he broke walls of prejudice when he decided wearing make up of even the choice of his later clothes which apparently were to be worn by women (can´t find the pic, but i am referring to the black t-shirt with a gold symbol)

Back to Raffles, his biggest crime has been that videoclip and song!!

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("Minkin güerveeeee")
Michael pls come back


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LOL, I told youuuuu....Raffles is Front, lmao
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("Minkin güerveeeee")
Michael pls come back


"Why a four-year-old child could understand this hoax. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head nor tail out of it"

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Regarding Gabriel, i only read references as the archangel represented as a woman withing some English spoken sites related to angels, not within History of Art. In fact, they (archangel, angel, serafin...) are supposed to be asexual. So their looks are open to interpretation.

Indirectly this talk makes me think of Michael and how he broke walls of prejudice when he decided wearing make up of even the choice of his later clothes which apparently were to be worn by women (can´t find the pic, but i am referring to the black t-shirt with a gold symbol)

Back to Raffles, his biggest crime has been that videoclip and song!!

I had this argument in bible class, and this is how I explained it to the church elders: Souls are neither male nor female; it's just the shells they occupy. So if an angel occupies a human shell, they'll take on the human's physical attributes, correct? The elders agreed, which surprised everyone - even myself. Guess logic does win.

As for Asexual looks, I'm not sure if that's what Michael was really going for. Remember, his skin was almost translucent - not white! Ergo, he was basically "penciling in" his features, so he'd have expressions that could be seen. Clothes are to be enjoyed, and have fun with! I used to love adding sequins, shinies or anything sparkly to everybody's clothes - if you left it with me, I'd sneak some onto it.  :D

Also - many people forget that back in the '70s, Asexual was hot, hot HOT! David Bowie was the epitome of Asexual, with Ziggy Stardust. David created a "Rock God/Messiah" from Outer Space who only had 5 years. Kabuki meets Sci-Fi! In the meantime, he eventually fell to his own ego and devices. You should really read what's on this page, because apparently, Bowie is where Beyonce got the idea for Sasha Fierce! Bowie's the ORIGINAL, everyone else who created an alter ego, is a chip off his block: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

He's before my time, but I liked a few of his songs, and I heard his echoes in High School.

But the 5 YEARS part made me read this article carefully!
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Black & Proud! I'm like the Oracle/Batgirl, who helps Batman in the comic books. I believe in "Comic Book justice."


This series is about this very topic – watch them in order and you can see where it all might lead. It gets better as they go....


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just recently ready randomly from the magic and the madness ( think that is the right title) , at some point in it the book refered to michael ( or sometone else in the story that was being relayed) staying at a hotel by the name raffles. just thought i would mention it.
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Tink, I wonder if MJ got ideas from Bowie?
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n two separate interviews in the early ’90s,  Bowie reflected on his period of mental instability as he battled – and basked in – his alter-ego. Ziggy had literally become an escape from himself and his every-day life; a place to hide from David Bowie.

I enjoyed the character so much and it was so much easier for me to live within that character that, along with the help of some chemical substances at the time, it became easier and easier for me to blur the lines between reality and the blessed creature that I created – my doppelganger. I wasn’t getting rid of him at all – in fact I was joining forces with him (1990).

There was a theory that one creates a doppelganger and then imbues that with all your faults and guilts and fears and then eventually you destroy him, hopefully destroying all your guilt, fear and paranoia. And I often feel that I was doing that unwittingly, creating an alternative ego that would take on everything that I was insecure about.  Ziggy served my purpose because I found it easier to function through him, although I probably put myself on a path of pure psychological damage by doing what I did.  But it felt like it was going to be easier living through an alternative self.  Of course the major problem was that I was blurring the lines between sanity and an insane figure, and finally did break the lines down in the mid-Seventies where I really couldn’t perceive the difference between the stage persona and myself (1993).
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n two separate interviews in the early ’90s,  Bowie reflected on his period of mental instability as he battled – and basked in – his alter-ego. Ziggy had literally become an escape from himself and his every-day life; a place to hide from David Bowie.

I enjoyed the character so much and it was so much easier for me to live within that character that, along with the help of some chemical substances at the time, it became easier and easier for me to blur the lines between reality and the blessed creature that I created – my doppelganger. I wasn’t getting rid of him at all – in fact I was joining forces with him (1990).

There was a theory that one creates a doppelganger and then imbues that with all your faults and guilts and fears and then eventually you destroy him, hopefully destroying all your guilt, fear and paranoia. And I often feel that I was doing that unwittingly, creating an alternative ego that would take on everything that I was insecure about.  Ziggy served my purpose because I found it easier to function through him, although I probably put myself on a path of pure psychological damage by doing what I did.  But it felt like it was going to be easier living through an alternative self.  Of course the major problem was that I was blurring the lines between sanity and an insane figure, and finally did break the lines down in the mid-Seventies where I really couldn’t perceive the difference between the stage persona and myself (1993).
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