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MJ had a pink tattoo on his top lip, eyebrow tattoos, and tattoos on the top of his head according to Dr. Roger's testimony.
Does anyone know if MJ ever mentioned getting any tattoos at all? Could a DWD patient have gotten this done, or is it just made-up details.
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7th May 2013 from TwitLonger

A toxicologist testified Monday that Michael Jackson is the only person in Los Angeles County not in the medical field to die of propofol intoxication in their home in the last 14 years. <--- worth repeating

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ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 8h
MJ had a pink tattoo on his top lip, eyebrow tattoos, and tattoos on the top of his head according to Dr. Roger's testimony.
Does anyone know if MJ ever mentioned getting any tattoos at all? Could a DWD patient have gotten this done, or is it just made-up details.


I say ... :computer-losy-smiley:but michael will be free to make of himself what he wanted???  :icon_evil: Leave him alone !!  :smiley_abuv:
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Expert: Jackson doctor unqualified in many areas

"Michael Jackson's doctor was not qualified to treat the singer for insomnia or drug addiction and botched resuscitation efforts, an expert cardiologist testifying for the singer's mother told a jury on Tuesday".

Well I think this cardiologist statement is what made the most of us believe that Michael faked his death because none of us could believed that a so clumsy doctor was taking care of the most famous entertainer of the Universe.

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Some tweets that are crucial to the case:

ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 48m
Mrs. Jackson was back in court for the after the lunch break with Trent Jackson.
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She also had a Louis Vuitton bag.
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 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
CORRECTION - MRS. KATHERINE JACKSON was in court for the morning session.  She wore a beige jacket with a water color design.
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 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 3h
The Jackson family has not been here and is not expected this afternoon.

Why is it so important for them what Katherine is wearing and what bag she is carrying?????
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Expert: Jackson doctor unqualified in many areas

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Wohlgelernter, however, said Jackson's request for Murray to be his doctor and Murray's desire to leave other patients behind to work with the singer should have caused AEG some concern.
Wohlgelernter said the company should have asked why the two men wanted to work with each other.
For hoax purposes?? :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile

Also Pearl Jr.'s been sitting in the courtroom:
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Ok, so while the forum's been down, we've had Alif Sankey (May 8th) and Karen Faye (May 9th) testifying. Any thoughts anyone? (Have to say, I was reminded of those awful TINI testimonials)

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From the link Curls posted: 

"Michael always believed that a doctor had his best interest at heart," Faye said. "He believed if he got something through a doctor that it was safe and OK for him to use it."(CNN)

I believe with this sentence Karen (Through Michael), is emphasizing the role of "a doctor" very clearly. But  in real life, that's not what doctors are all about.  Look what happened to Michael when he listened  to his doctors and took what they prescribed to him......... sort of thing.....

"Witness Karen Faye also recalled how Jackson's reliance on medications coincided with the first time he was accused of child molestation in the early 1990s."Michael had to go on stage every night knowing that the whole world thought he was a pedophile," Faye said, shaking her head and crying. "(AP)

I think Karen wants to bring to everyone's attention that because of "them" and what they put him through Michael needed pain medication. And because of unethical doctors Michael is now "dead".......  She wants to make sure the world understands what the chi-mo. trial put him through, how he was severely hurt by it both physically and emotionally.
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From the link Curls posted: 

"Michael always believed that a doctor had his best interest at heart," Faye said. "He believed if he got something through a doctor that it was safe and OK for him to use it."(CNN)

I believe with this sentence Karen (Through Michael), is emphasizing the role of "a doctor" very clearly. But  in real life, that's not what doctors are all about.  Look what happened to Michael when he listened  to his doctors and took what they prescribed to him......... sort of thing.....

"Witness Karen Faye also recalled how Jackson's reliance on medications coincided with the first time he was accused of child molestation in the early 1990s."Michael had to go on stage every night knowing that the whole world thought he was a pedophile," Faye said, shaking her head and crying. "(AP)

I think Karen wants to bring to everyone's attention that because of "them" and what they put him through Michael needed pain medication. And because of unethical doctors Michael is now "dead".......  She wants to make sure the world understands what the chi-mo. trial put him through, how he was severely hurt by it both physically and emotionally.

 
And so explain even more who is Michael....a simple and clean person that despite the bad things received ,always trust in others  :bearhug:
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This story by a freelance worker involved in production of This Is It /Dome Project/, who MJ nicnamed 'Unbreakable', shows us that Karen Faye must be pulling the wool over everyone's eyes, for Michael's hoax.
(I started a thread on this 'Ghost story' which this is all part of, which is a wonderful faith builder for MJ being alive. If you haven't read, please do!
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She says MJ was healthy and happy!
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Unbreakable October 3rd, 2009 9:06 pm ET
I do not know Karen personally. I have met her, but no I would not stick up for her. I don’t agree with some of the claims she is making. Peroid.

Unbreakable October 3rd, 2009 9:51 pm ET
@ Secert, 
Yes Michael was thin. But he was full of energy and spunk.
As far as his mental state, as far as what i seen, was tip top.
He did tell me that he was getting too old for this… (joking around of course).
But the times I interacted with him, his mental state was fine.
I do not know how he appreared when I was not around, so I can not say anything for sure.
He did appear tired some of the time, but he was working hard.

Unbreakable October 3rd, 2009 10:27 pm ET
You can share good times with a person and not be a close personal friend.
I have many good time with many people, yet would never confind info in them or cry on thier shoulder.
Nothing I have said here about Michael was direspectful at all. I was invited on Larry’s show the week MJ died, i declined while everyone else flocked in droves. Me expressing my feeling and exprience’s I had with Michael is in no way backstabbing him. I know some things that I will not ever tell anyone.
I am not asking anyone to believe me, that is not the point. And I don’t blame you if you do not, because you are right, the internet can house some pretty scary things. I mean with people claiming to be MJ and this Informer, I don’t blame anyone for not believing me, and truthfully this is why I had not said anything before. Fearing I would get this reaction.
I know the truth, and all I was doing was sharing the fact that MJ was a wonderful man and he was not knocking on death’s door. Thats all.
I have no motive.

Unbreakable October 4th, 2009 11:15 am ET
Anne your video brought me to tears, I had not seen that.
I see footage of things I worked on.. watch it, there is a scene with michael with a green screen behind him holding a sucker. I was there that day…
As I was everyday.
He looks wonderful, just how I remeber him.
I am going for a bit…
But that video choked me up a bit..
It still seems so hard to believe.
He was one sexy mofo.

Unbreakable October 4th, 2009 11:23 am ET
MMJ, 
Thank you for your kind words.
Watch the video posted here, you will see some of the projects I was doing, and there is even a spot he is holding a sucker. I told you guys he always had a sucker. I am going to watch the video one more time.. It brings me joy, yet sadness at the same time. Does he look frail or sick to any of you in this video? I am telling the truth. Please have faith in that, MJ was NOT sick or frail… and this proves it. When you see the movie, it will prove it.
Damn I really miss him..

Unbreakable October 4th, 2009 12:11 pm ET
@MMJ,
 I am not saying MJ was in perfect shape or condtion. Truthfully I did see things.
What I was saying was he was not frail or boney or any of that nonsense we have heard.
He was by NO means the Michael Jackson I grew up being in love with and wanting to marry.
I will say this, in all honesty, the first time I met MJ back in the mid 90′s he looked spectacular.
I had seen him a few other times over the years and he pretty much looked the same.
However when I met with him for the first about this project, I did not even recognize him.
His face has changed drastically.
I am not trying to say he was perfect,
I was just saying he was not dying.
But overall, to me, he seemed in pretty good physical condition.
Do you know what I mean?
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Karen doesn't have a good reputation apparently.
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So either KF is being used by MJ to further the hoax false story about a sickly Michael, or,
KF is not in on the hoax and MJ is including her as a target for teaching a lesson on hurting people.
The only thing I would then have trouble with, is that KF did MJ's (corpse) make-up. How could any dummy or DWD replacement fool her. Or she's lying about doing MJ's corpse make-up to make it sound like she was more inner circle than was true.
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Why Karen is  a witness, if she lied to, intrigued contradicts itself and speak ill of the family
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Article about Karen Faye from rawstory.
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Michael Jackson’s make-up artist: ‘Everybody was lying after he died’
By Agence France-Presse
Friday, May 10, 2013 20:45 EDT

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Michael Jackson’s make-up artist warned in the 1990s that the star could die due to his drug addiction, she testified Friday, adding that people were initially lying after his 2009 death.

Karen Faye, who worked for the self-styled King of Pop for 27 years, said she voiced concern to a drugs therapist after Jackson’s “Dangerous” tour in the early 1990s, which was cut short when the singer went into rehab.

She was speaking at a Los Angeles trial pitting Jackson’s 82-year-old mother Katherine against AEG Live, the promoter of his final tour whom she accuses of negligently hiring doctor Conrad Murray.

Murray was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in 2011. The Jackson family matriarch says AEG Live were responsible for hiring the medic, and should have known he was inappropriate for the job.

Jackson died on June 25, 2009 of an overdose of the anesthetic propofol, given to him by Murray to help with his insomnia. Lawyers for AEG say he had used the drug, usually only meant for a hospital setting, for years.

“Everybody was lying after he died .. and everyone knew,” said Faye, who was asked to do the make-up on Jackson’s corpse. “I felt retouching Michael was part of that lie and I didnt want to be part of it,” she said.

Faye, who also did Jackson’s hair, said she began to be seriously worried during the “Dangerous” tour. “I said I was afraid Michael could die,” she said, adding: “There were times when he was OK and times when I was worried.”

On one tour stop in Singapore she stumbled into his dressing room to find him taking medication, which he said was to reduce a bald spot on his scalp from burns received during an accident while making a Pepsi advert in 1984.

At times on the tour she saw Debbie Rowe, who at the time was a nurse for Jackson’s dermatologist Dr Arnold Klein but would later marry the singer, carrying medications for the star.

Faye added that she voiced concerns about Jackson’s drug abuse with his siblings Rebbie, LaToya and Randy. The family tried unsuccessfully to get him into rehab in later years, she said.

“I never knew them to be successful … I’m sure they were trying to help him in any way the could,” she said.

The trial continues into its third week Monday.


Well OF COURSE they're lying after Michael's "death" this is a freaking HOAX!  ;D they're talking about drugs yeah but I thought it was funny   ;)
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But....... only  now  these stories come out all together?  :suspect:.... :icon_e_wink: :michael-jackson:
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But....... only  now  these stories come out all together?  :suspect:.... :icon_e_wink: :michael-jackson:

Yes you are right and that's because I think the hoax has its timing.
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Michael Jackson could not sing and dance live at the same time, claim emails to be presented in court
13 May 2013 08:23
There was a 'secret plan' to use his backing tracks for his This Is It shows


 


Tragic Michael Jackson was so frail in the days before his death he could not sing and dance at the same time, documents allege.

And it is claimed his physical state so worried bosses of his comeback tour that they made contingency plans to use backing tracks at his £100-a-ticket shows.

But The King of Pop died aged 50 from an overdose of powerful anaesthetic shortly before the This Is It shows were was due to start at London’s O2 Arena in July 2009.

Jackson’s mother Katherine, together with his three children, are suing concert promoters AEG Live for £31billion.

A string of emails, seen by the Mirror and to be presented to the Los Angeles Superior Court in California, make it clear there were serious fears about Jacko’s ability to perform.

Long-term Jackson family friend Terry Harvey claims the singer had laid down vocals over several months to work as back-up material for shows.

And the promoter insists he made Jackson’s managers Dr Tohme Tohme, Frank DiLeo and contract lawyer Dennis Hawk aware of his dangerously frail state.

He says he warned Di Leo, who died in 2011: “You are going to kill Michael.”

In other evidence it is claimed Jacko was so emaciated that, two days before he died, his heart could be seen beating.

Make-up artist Karen Faye said costume director Michael Bush looked in horror at Jackson’s unclothed body before a dress rehearsal: “He said, ‘Oh my God ... I could see Michael’s heart beat through the skin of his chest’.”

Faye, 60, who worked for Jackson over nearly three decades, claimed he was on the brink of death weeks before his drug overdose.

She wept, describing how she made up Jackson in his coffin, but refused to “help retouch” footage of the singer for the posthumous documentary, “This Is It”.

Faye blasted: “It was a lie. I didn’t want a lie.

“Everybody was lying after he died, (saying) Michael was well. Everybody knew he wasn’t. I felt retouching Michael was just a part of that lie.”

The key emails show there was a difference between the public version of Jackson’s rehearsals and reality.



After announcing the series of This Is It gigs, ticket sales reaped more than £169million at the box office.

But on June 16, 2009 music arranger Michael Bearden revealed the singer was unable to sing live and dance, just three weeks away from the start at London’s 02 Arena.

In a message entitled Plan B, Bearden told Kenny Ortega, producer and director of the This Is It tour, that he planned using Jackson’s studio material.

Bearden wrote: “If we can’t get everything we need from the vault I can use what we have and take out ad libs and such to try to make it feel new.

“MJ is not in shape enough yet to sing this stuff live and dance at the same time. He can use the ballads to sing live and get his stamina back ... I have full confidence he can sing the majority of the show live.

“His voice sounds amazing right now he just needs to build it back up.”

Dancer Travis Payne, who let slip Jackson needed golf carts to get around the arena, responded with, “Great idea”.

There were even rumours, strongly denied, that a Jackson stand-in was used to announce the London gigs.

Harvey, claims the singer recorded show vocals weeks before his rehearsals.

He said: “On This Is It there were moments where he wasn’t singing, his energy levels were down and anyone who worked with him in the past could tell Michael was a way off from 100 per cent. We found out Michael was in the studio recording tracks for the show and even new albums in his last months. You can put your voice in a sequencer and backing track for live shows, so if you don’t want to sing you mime and fans don’t realise.”

Other documents show how, five days before Jackson’s death, Ortega asked AEG managing director Randy Phillips to pull the plug.

On June 20 Ortega wrote: “My concern is that now that we’ve brought the doctor in to the fold ... the artist may be unable to rise to the occasion due to real emotional stuff.”

He continued saying how Jackson was “trembling, rambling and obsessing,” adding: “Everything in me says he should be psychologically evaluated. If we have any chance at all to get him back.”

Ortega added: “He’s terribly frightened it’s all going to go away. He was like a lost boy.” But Phillips shot down Ortega, after consulting Dr Conrad Murray.

Phillips refused to consider stopping the This Is It concerts. “You cannot imagine the harm and ramifications of stopping the show now,” he said.



 
“I am not just talking about AEG’s interests here, but the myriad of stuff and lawsuits swirling around MJ that I crisis manage, and also his well-being.” Signing off as Randy he added: “It’s time to put out the fire, not burn the building.”

Harvey and partners AllGood Entertainment offered Jackson a Dallas 2009 comeback show, on the provision he went to rehab. But the singer chose AEG’s gigs in London.

It prompted a lawsuit with AllGood which they lost in 2010. But today Harvey claims AllGood plan to refile their £200million lawsuit against AEG for stealing the Thriller star from their grasp.

Harvey claims he spoke to Jackson in his last few weeks over the deal with AllGood.

He said: “It was part of the contract for Michael to get clean. His mother Katherine and father Joe knew that, and we made it clear to everyone close to him.

“For months we told Michael’s lawyer at the time Dennis Hawk, his managers Frank DiLeo and Dr Tohme Tohme he needed rehab.

“I told Frank, ‘He needs to get clean first’, but he didn’t want to know. It was an open secret in close circles that Michael had addiction issues.”

Harvey claims Jackson had agreed to do a one-off return gig in Dallas but was lured away by AEG execs.

Harvey, 53, who lives in Oklahoma, said: “Michael’s comeback was tailor-made for one show. He didn’t need to slug it out for 50 nights. The This Is It sales figures prove our formula – they made $200million from a rehearsal, so we would have made more – and Michael would have taken the lion’s share.

“There is a feeling that Michael’s death turned about to be a good business decision for AEG. It hurts me to say that, because people forget Michael was not just a commodity, but a troubled human being, with a lot still to offer, who was dedicated to his three kids. The only reason he did this was so that his kids could see him perform.”

AllGood, who have worked with stars such as Bon Jovi and Stevie Wonder, are set to refile their £200million law suit in the next few weeks.

“We feel there is a strong case,” said Harvey. “The company were not given access to the emails that have come up in this case.

“We have depositions from senior AEG executives, who insisted that Michael was healthy enough to do ‘100 shows’ in the days before the rehearsals. The emails in the Jackson case suggest they had knowledge of problems. People knew Michael had a long term drug condition.

“His employees saw him unable to walk after visiting doctors – it was even on the news, but no one stepped in. I think AEG will lose to Katherine Jackson.”

The Jackson family claim that as Jackson’s personal physician Dr Conrad Murray was responsible for administering the fatal anaesthetic, AEG should be held responsible as they were his employer. AEG deny responsibility.

Murray, paid £100,000 a month by Jackson, got four years jail for involuntary manslaughter.



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