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TIAI February 10

  • on: February 10, 2012, 02:42:40 AM
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=21825.msg388951#msg388951

Perhaps now is a good time to revisit 2 of Michael's "whispers" from the memorial…..

One Love...


Truth (Truth will prevail = time)…


Some of the most spiritual and passionate people that walk(ed) the Earth do/did not consider themselves to be "religious". Does spiritual = religious? Not necessarily. Front has stated many times --- if you're not a religious person, it matters not…have faith in Michael and continue to believe in what you already KNOW. Do not let the religious beliefs/interpretations of others "derail your hoax train", so to speak. There are many constituents (beliefs) of the same train---each car (individual) is connected and rides along the same track---together as ONE.

The confusion and heartache from the non-religious people's POV is highly understandable…but what should be realized is: it's simply not necessary---so too is the feeling of being "left out". Au contraire---you are very MUCH included!---if you SEE the "bigger PIcturE". Imagine that we are all in a forest. Some people will notice the trees first…others will see the animals first…others will first observe the rays of light shattering through the green canopy of the branches. We all have different perspectives, although our eyes are witnessing the very same scenario! For people that are partial to the trees…does that mean that the animals and the light do not exist? Absolutely not! Likewise, does it make you less of a beLIEver or less of "passenger" on this journey just because you don't see/don't relate/don't believe in a specific religion? Not necessarily. The journey is what you make it. You can choose to embrace only a few aspects of the "scenery"…..or you can choose to embrace ALL aspects. The journey will continue regardless of religious beliefs. <---- again, this goes back to "having faith in Michael"

Keep an open mind, listen, observe, share your thoughts…..it's okay to disagree. Isn't it wonderful when people who have opposing beliefs share and learn from each other? It's one of the most powerful things in the world!--- AND, one that ultimately converges on the same path…even if we don't realize it's happening at that tIME. HIndsight truly IS 20/20.

The dark clouds will part…..horizons shall <<---e-x-p-a-n-d--->> and the glory of L.O.V.E. will rain down upon them quenching their souls.

In case you missed it before, perhaps it's relevant to re-post this now…..

Front wrote:
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‪Parallel lives, parallel paths‬
And for so long a one-way looking glass
In the mysterious depths of time and space
Footsteps converge to reveal a face
The mirror, no more a one-way reflection
Wiped free of smudges and deception
How I long for that day of transformation…
A Godly utopia without degradation
A collective heart
One love, one race
No matter the color of your face
Contradicting opinions with peaceful notions
Humility + respect = a powerful potion
Many residents, one home
We come and go
Despite it all, I want you to know
We'll see this through 'til the end
And we shall see the light again


and I shall add with appropriateness to the moment: 
A collective heart
One love, one race
No matter the color of your face
Beliefs may differ along the way
Through this journey from night into day
Soldiers of L.O.V.E., hand in hand
As we trek through the desolate land
Light will emanate from below and above
Warming our souls with a religion of Love   

In times of silence, try not to get discouraged. It only means there is something BIG in the works…..and the "feather" will DEFINITELY be heard when it flutters to the "stage".

I've been away awhile..just jumping in and out..but I had to say this post was amazing.  The forest analogy is FANTASTIC!  Make me feel quite differently about a lot of things.  The poem was really a thinker too.  Very beautiful and informative.  Thank you!!
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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 10, 2012, 05:53:18 AM
Have I missed something, or this the first time TS has acknowledged Front, albeit indirectly by redirecting to Ford's post, if you follow me!?

This redirect confirms to me that TS and Front are still on the same page,  ;) even though it has not felt like this to some of us (me!) recently. I love it! Thank you so much guys!  :lol:

And I loved your comment too Ford!

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 10, 2012, 06:17:39 AM
TS and Front are one and the same...looks like

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 10, 2012, 06:32:07 AM
^^ well yes, Gina, but it might just be our over-vivid imaginations!!   ;)

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 10, 2012, 06:41:36 AM
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=21825.msg388951#msg388951

Perhaps now is a good time to revisit 2 of Michael's "whispers" from the memorial…..

One Love...


Truth (Truth will prevail = time)…


Some of the most spiritual and passionate people that walk(ed) the Earth do/did not consider themselves to be "religious". Does spiritual = religious? Not necessarily. Front has stated many times --- if you're not a religious person, it matters not…have faith in Michael and continue to believe in what you already KNOW. Do not let the religious beliefs/interpretations of others "derail your hoax train", so to speak. There are many constituents (beliefs) of the same train---each car (individual) is connected and rides along the same track---together as ONE.

The confusion and heartache from the non-religious people's POV is highly understandable…but what should be realized is: it's simply not necessary---so too is the feeling of being "left out". Au contraire---you are very MUCH included!---if you SEE the "bigger PIcturE". Imagine that we are all in a forest. Some people will notice the trees first…others will see the animals first…others will first observe the rays of light shattering through the green canopy of the branches. We all have different perspectives, although our eyes are witnessing the very same scenario! For people that are partial to the trees…does that mean that the animals and the light do not exist? Absolutely not! Likewise, does it make you less of a beLIEver or less of "passenger" on this journey just because you don't see/don't relate/don't believe in a specific religion? Not necessarily. The journey is what you make it. You can choose to embrace only a few aspects of the "scenery"…..or you can choose to embrace ALL aspects. The journey will continue regardless of religious beliefs. <---- again, this goes back to "having faith in Michael"

Keep an open mind, listen, observe, share your thoughts…..it's okay to disagree. Isn't it wonderful when people who have opposing beliefs share and learn from each other? It's one of the most powerful things in the world!--- AND, one that ultimately converges on the same path…even if we don't realize it's happening at that tIME. HIndsight truly IS 20/20.

The dark clouds will part…..horizons shall <<---e-x-p-a-n-d--->> and the glory of L.O.V.E. will rain down upon them quenching their souls.

In case you missed it before, perhaps it's relevant to re-post this now…..

Front wrote:
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‪Parallel lives, parallel paths‬
And for so long a one-way looking glass
In the mysterious depths of time and space
Footsteps converge to reveal a face
The mirror, no more a one-way reflection
Wiped free of smudges and deception
How I long for that day of transformation…
A Godly utopia without degradation
A collective heart
One love, one race
No matter the color of your face
Contradicting opinions with peaceful notions
Humility + respect = a powerful potion
Many residents, one home
We come and go
Despite it all, I want you to know
We'll see this through 'til the end
And we shall see the light again


and I shall add with appropriateness to the moment: 
A collective heart
One love, one race
No matter the color of your face
Beliefs may differ along the way
Through this journey from night into day
Soldiers of L.O.V.E., hand in hand
As we trek through the desolate land
Light will emanate from below and above
Warming our souls with a religion of Love   

In times of silence, try not to get discouraged. It only means there is something BIG in the works…..and the "feather" will DEFINITELY be heard when it flutters to the "stage".

I've been away awhile..just jumping in and out..but I had to say this post was amazing.  The forest analogy is FANTASTIC!  Make me feel quite differently about a lot of things.  The poem was really a thinker too.  Very beautiful and informative.  Thank you!!





WOW what a beautiful post Front wrote  :shock:  /bravo/ !!!
To my humble opinion
THE TRUTH is in all the major religions, like pieces of a puzzle  ;)) . Eastern religions are closer to the truth in some ways than western religions, and in other ways, they are farther away. It is the same with western religions.
If you combine THE TRUTH in western religions with THE TRUTH in eastern religions, you will see a more complete picture, so make the two one as the Bible says.

The word “religion” means “unity” :Thus, there will not be a real religion until they unite with each other as just different ways to see the ULTIMATE TRUTH  8-) .


It is a good thing that the truth is spread out through all religions. It shows that the Holy Spirit or collective unconscious does not favor anyone.

Only people that are able to see the truth in other religions will be saved, and that is the way it should be. If you cannot see the truth in others, you cannot see it.

The differences that are causing the conflict now, a great negative, will become a great positive. The differences will unite religions and make them all necessary, equal, and legitimate when the truth is seen.


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Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as fact, then you are in trouble.
Joseph Campbell

Pieces of the puzzle, or explanations of the truth, are found in many different places. Our task is to find them and put them together into a complete picture. Example: Western religion does not say much about the knowledge of the balancing opposites, but ancient Egyptian and eastern religions do, such as Taoism, Buddhism, etc. The Bible just deals with it using good and evil.

Eastern religions have creation myths, but the truth is not in them as clearly as it is in the Bible; at least they are not as clear from my perspective.

Muslims pray five times a day, and acknowledging God/Life many times a day is absolutely essential. I call it spiritual exercise. They have no pictures, statues or other images of God, and this is very important, because images mislead people.

The Bible does not talk about reincarnation, but Buddhism and Hinduism do. Religions such as Scientology, Unification Church, New Age, the Mormons, and all the great independent philosophers and poets also have different pieces to the puzzle. You just have to remember that there are also a lot of things that are not true. You have to remember that even the founders or prophets of a new way of seeing life misinterpret their own inspired revelations. When you see clearly, you will see the true and false in all religions.
All religious books need to be reinterpreted now with our new ability to see the ultimate truth. We do not change them; we just see what they really say.

The Buddhists say that when you have no desire, you find heaven (nirvana). I say you have to be fulfilled here and now. It is the same thing; I just say it in the OPPOSITE way. One of the ways I found the truth in religions is that I just look at what they believed was true and looked at the exact opposite, and many times, that was where the truth was. The mind reverses things just like a MIRROR. When you know this, you can use it as a tool to find the truth in most myths. Peter, the founder of the church, said people were seeing things Upside Down and BACKwards, and it was why he was crucified upside down.




To become a spiritual being, we become the exact opposite of the way people are now. See, Acts of Peter, XXXVlll

Jesus said,
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"When the outer has become as the inner, and the lower as the upper, then will this WORLD find PEACE."

People, mankind, are living as their false, mortal mind-self, and they should be living as their immortal spiritual-self, the exact opposite of the way they are now.
Most of the truth is found in science and nowhere else. Truth is also found in philosophy, novels, movies, music, poetry and the performing arts  8-)  etc.


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There is only one religion, though there are a hundred versions of it.
George Bernard Shaw

When religions are fighting wars to destroy each other as they have done in the past and are doing now, you can be sure that something is missing.Organized religions can be the best or worst thing for the truth.
Ritual and tradition is a very good thing if you know the truth. If you do not, it will be misleading.
The first step is an open mind, tolerance, and peace.
Some people protect their beliefs by fighting any different ideology than theirs. Sometimes, they even kill and torture people that disagree with them. It really does not make them look too enlightened, but they are too unconscious to realize it. They unconsciously do the work of the devil in the name of God.

Religions have it all BACKwards. They worship things of the past, dead things, but they say to worship life, not death. Many religions are currently into death and fear, and they should be into life and love. They are dead and do not know it. As the Bible says, let the dead bury the dead. Life is for the living, and if they do not want to wake up, so be it. It is now or never.
The living one is anyone that lives in the truth and the life.

My God is better than your God; my God can beat up your God ,lol  lolol/ .It is all pretty silly and stupid, but it is happening. It is as stupid as it gets, and it is time to see it for what it is and start changing things before it destroys us all.
Fighting for a deception, a misinterpretation, is the ultimate waste of life. Violence gives power to the mind and must only be used in self-defense.

THE TRUTH will reveal itself to those who are ready to see it. It will never be seen by those who are not ready to see it. Trying to hurt others will just make things worse. If a religion cannot sell itself on it its own merit in a non-violent comparison with other religions, it means people are misinterpreting your religion, not that you need to start killing people who disagree with you. Your job is to wake up. You can write a book about it or teach it to others if it helps you stay in the present. The most important thing you can do for the truth is just live in it.

We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools.
Martin Luther King Jr.
  respect/
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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 10, 2012, 09:11:57 AM
^^ well yes, Gina, but it might just be our over-vivid imaginations!!   ;)

I don't think so. The first days Front appeared on the Back thread I've said there that I believe Front is TS.
I'm too lazy to go look for my post but I know I've posted it. If they are not the same person - they play in the same team at least.

I also believe TS came under a few more usernames and sort of "tested" us...in a way. Well it is also very possible that I am paranoid :shock:. But something weird is going on.

I also want to say @ Sou I've read your long post and it was shocking to see how much TS influenced you in the way you came to express yourself, in the way you decided to study the Bible and in the way you amazingly progressed from someone who knew almost nothing from the scriptures to someone who now posts AMAZING studies on the Holy Book. :shock: respect/



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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 10, 2012, 09:29:20 AM
Recognize that there is "truth and Holiness" in other religions means, directly and immediately, that men and women who practice them are saved in and on them, not despite them. Which in turn is equivalent to saying that God is revealing it and putting its salvation in all and each of the religions, without that never any man or women have been deprived of their presence of love… If God is revealed to all, then all religions are revealed and, therefore, to the same extent, true. Conclusion that, from the outset, can produce surprise and that he perhaps raises some a certain reaction of rejection.
Are all religions perfect?, not what is but this does not prevent any - as that is so it does not prevent to the biblical - be true to the extent needed, but real in that manages to capture, express and live presence alive, revealing  of God therein.
a culture takes riches of others without giving up being herself, something like could happen in the religious level.

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 10, 2012, 09:35:14 AM
Sittin' back on this one......watchin' from the sidelines......

TS could have redirected only to the original post by Front.....but that wasn't the case.....so the reply by fordtocarr was what we must be focussed on, in combination with the uplifting post by Front.

« Last Edit: February 10, 2012, 09:44:02 AM by Adi »

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 10, 2012, 09:57:13 AM
Interesting redirect...and nice to see TS is still in the wings (although I 'feel' him here even when he's 'quiet'---much like Front  ;) ).  If there was any doubt about 'them' being on the same team...that doubt can now be placed in the 'things I KNOW' pile lol.  This further confirmation seals that deal 100%...and that alone made me smile when clicking on this thread and seeing Front's post as the redirect.  How I wish other things could be moved to the KNOW pile as beautifully as this one has.  I've 'sensed' it for a long time...that TS and Front were coming from one 'source'...two sides of that perfect cube.  I most likely would've bet on it months back...had I had to wager on it.  Based on everything I've seen, mixed in with a strong 'gut' feeling...I believe they are 'team MJ' lol.  I know this has been 'contested' in the past, with some still being very 'cautious' about these two 'characters'...but they got me lol. 

And speaking of those being 'cautious'....that's the other reason this redirect made me smile.  Ford is one member who has always shared her concerns/feelings of caution where these 'insiders' are concerned.  IMO, she's done it respectfully and IMO tried to remain respectful even when she felt she was being 'left out'.  I know this because I've read her posts and I've also responded to a few because I was amazed at how we both could be SEEING the same thing but 'experiencing' it in a completely different way (I find that fascinating).  Front's beautiful forest analogy speaks to this perfectly.  And TS not only chose Front's post....but he chose to redirect to a post by Ford (one who feels/felt 'left out' for not SEEING what others do).

We know TS doesn't just redirect to anything....he didn't HAVE to redirect to anything at all (he hasn't in awhile).  But today, he chose this one.  On one level, I believe it was to CEMENT any doubts about the 'team' (well, at least that they are on the same team...which team is a whole other topic lol----honestly, do you guys not FEEL Mike in everything they post?!?!?!?! THE man is in the house (!!!) and that makes me wanna  /woohoo/ lol).  On another level, it acknowledges and hopefully brings some comfort to those, like Ford, who have remained cautious/unsure but have kept an open mind and an open heart.  TS is confirming what Front said in his post...."you are very MUCH included!"

Beautiful redirect all around.  I feel like dancing  penguin/

With L.O.V.E. always.
The beauty of Michael Jackson is found in his heart and soul...his enormous talent is a bonus and what a bonus it is.

~PLAY the moments...PAUSE the memories...STOP the pain...REWIND the happiness~

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 10, 2012, 11:25:25 AM
TS likes numbers, that much we know.  fordtocarr's post is a nice, short note of a gracious nature.  That could well be the whole of it or......that along with these numbers from her post:

post # 669 
6+6+9=21 (7+7+7)
date 2/9/2012
2+9+2+1+2=16=1+6=7
or her post number right now: 1497
1+4+9+7=21 (7+7+7)

Whole lotta 7's going on......BTC, can you please do me a favor and check my math  :lol:

Blessings Always

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 10, 2012, 12:42:10 PM
LMAO Wish...at least that's math I can follow lol.  Yes, based on my calculations, you are correct  :lol: (As an added bonus, how many posts til Ford reaches 2000?  :lol:)

Gotta love those 7's....they're everywhere  ::P

With L.O.V.E. always.
The beauty of Michael Jackson is found in his heart and soul...his enormous talent is a bonus and what a bonus it is.

~PLAY the moments...PAUSE the memories...STOP the pain...REWIND the happiness~

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 10, 2012, 01:25:55 PM
LMAO Wish...at least that's math I can follow lol.  Yes, based on my calculations, you are correct  :lol: (As an added bonus, how many posts til Ford reaches 2000?  :lol

Okay, you perked up my ears!!  What's my number of posts at that time???  AND, what does that number signify??
Howdy to my treasured friends
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I just thought I'd add to this... what BeTheChange wrote about me being on the cautious side.  I have.  I am.  I agree with what you've written about in your post entirely and your thoughts about the forest analogy and being cautious, but still being on the same team.
I'm trying to look deeper into that poem .. that I love.  I think that Michael's message has always been unity.  His songs talk about unity of all people/colors.  Look at the words in Can You Feel It.  He wrote that at the time being a JW and if you ever get a chance to go to an assembly, or convention (they're HUGE, maybe 40,000 people)...go to one.  All the colors and nationalities are there united as one.  No one noticing.  And JW's are all over the entire planet.  United as one.  I think this poem really speaks to racial unity.  We here are from all over the earth.  United in love for Michael.  But, in it, we are learning a LOT.  We are ultimately, learning who God is in the end.  We are being lead...coming from not only different backgrounds, beliefs, but nationalities.  We are uniting IN LOVE.
I don't understand the numerology aspect, and rely upon you all to explain that part, but I think I just posted a simple, thankful message to Front, which we all feel.  Cautious Suzie...(Ford) that's me....




Gotta love those 7's....they're everywhere  ::P

With L.O.V.E. always.
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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 10, 2012, 02:05:32 PM
Now THAT makes me smile! ;D

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 10, 2012, 03:06:01 PM
Awesome re-direct TS and again great post by Front and great and touching acknowledgement by Fordtocarr.  respect/

I loved your post Applehead. /bravo/

When Prophets and Messengers delivered their messages it was crystal clear and hence it was simple. There were no conjectures and misinterpretations and I believe this is because the truth came directly from God, it was pure and free from men's injections. The confusion often comes after the messenger is gone with men adding their own differing perceptions, interpretations, cultural traditions into the religion raising them as doctrines that make it all an extremely complicated matter and have as a result the creation of the false need to depend on someone to help us understand God's - in reality simple - message, and induces the perception that the religions of the world are drastically different especially with the passing of time they seem to become more and more far from the simple truth delivered at/from The Source. The human factor is what makes the difference. It can make the difference for the greater good as well.  ;)

I believe that most religions have one common Source which is God, and God is the same for all of us. He is OUR Creator.  He is what should unite the people of the world. God and our love for Him should be the cement uniting the bricks that are religions and respect for non-religious people. Those bricks could create a wall, and not a wall seperating us but a wall shielding us from the attempts of those who want to destroy love, peace, freedom and unity for humankind by turning us against each other. We can live in Love, Peace and Harmony as one people, if this simple -- I believe, truth -- is dearly engraved in people’s hearts. I believe this is what is happening in this forum.  respect/

It's all for L.O.V.E.
We are here for you Michael and will always love you whatever happens.
'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 11, 2012, 04:35:35 AM
If we still want to make connections with the official site - they talked about the Victory tour 2 days ago.

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 11, 2012, 06:37:58 PM
[...]I also believe TS came under a few more usernames and sort of "tested" us...in a way. Well it is also very possible that I am paranoid :shock:. But something weird is going on.
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[...]I also want to say @ Sou I've read your long post and it was shocking to see how much TS influenced you in the way you came to express yourself, in the way you decided to study the Bible and in the way you amazingly progressed from someone who knew almost nothing from the scriptures to someone who now posts AMAZING studies on the Holy Book. :shock: respect/
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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 11, 2012, 06:40:25 PM
[...]
---honestly, do you guys not FEEL Mike in everything they post?!?!?!?!

THE man is in the house (!!!) and that makes me wanna  /woohoo/ lol).  [...]
YEPP!!  mj_dance/



@Wish: nice numerology find ;)

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 11, 2012, 06:50:49 PM
TS likes numbers, that much we know.  fordtocarr's post is a nice, short note of a gracious nature.  That could well be the whole of it or......that along with these numbers from her post:

post # 669 
6+6+9=21 (7+7+7)
date 2/9/2012
2+9+2+1+2=16=1+6=7
or her post number right now: 1497
1+4+9+7=21 (7+7+7)

Whole lotta 7's going on......BTC, can you please do me a favor and check my math  :lol:

Blessings Always
DANG!!!!  Magic  :)  I didn't make that happen, neither did Front, so tell me, can you take anyone's posts, add their numbers and come up with 7's??

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 11, 2012, 07:09:00 PM
We can live in Love, Peace and Harmony as one people, if this simple -- I believe, truth -- is dearly engraved in people’s hearts. I believe this is what is happening in this forum. It's all for L.O.V.E.

Agreed.  8-)

Real life is more difficult.
You wouldn't want to believe how many folks chose lies over truth because it is easier for them to live with.
Actually, life becomes much more easy with truth because the hiding and all the work for hiding and cache-cache  just stops. But this demands honesty and humbleness, hindsight and slowing down and this many want to avoid because it demands personal growth and taking time for the essential in life.

Imagine the world would just stop until everybody has made up his mind how he wanted to live in the future...
Wouldn't this be just GREAT?
Instead we are hasting from appointment to date to family to bed to work. No wonder people are living in quarrels and are seldom contented. They don't take their due moments out of the hamster wheel.

So yes, love and life in peace are feasible - but don't forget how much time it took us to get to this moment now.
I firmly believe a "time-out" is a great opportunity to start listening to the essential again.
That's why I am voting in favour of a 7th day off - no matter if it is Monday, Saturday or Sunday.
I don't believe that God counts the days and makes crosses on the wall.
I think God is beyond that. Seriously. Would you really think God was counting crosses on the wall?
God is the only one knowing about the hearts and the souls and the minds and puts all that on a scale - if you need a comparison bar. God certainly does not need a comparison bar.

I think it is essential to feel that we are being loved and not being punished or threatened by fear.
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“If you enter this world knowing you are loved and you leave this world knowing the same, then everything that happens in between can be dealt with.”

This is important. Not religion nor color, race, gender, belief.

WE ARE BEING LOVED. BY MICHAEL, BY GOD, BY OUR FAMILY, BY OUR FRIENDS.
BY OURSELVES. BY THE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD. (sometimes more, sometimes less
;) but still...)

If this doesn't make us strong against all evil, then I don't know what might make us strong.

BELIEVE in yourself.
Find your strength within yourself - with or without God, Allah, Jehovah, Jesus, Buddha or whomever you wanna thank for the blessings and challenges of life.

Much love.


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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 11, 2012, 07:21:27 PM

BELIEVE in yourself.
Find your strength within yourself - with or without God, Allah, Jehovah, Jesus, Buddha or whomever you wanna thank for the blessings and challenges of life.

Well said Grace! These are my thoughts too.

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It's all for L.O.V.E.

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 11, 2012, 07:42:30 PM
Sittin' back on this one......watchin' from the sidelines......

TS could have redirected only to the original post by Front.....but that wasn't the case.....so the reply by fordtocarr was what we must be focussed on, in combination with the uplifting post by Front.

HEY, I agree :)  That makes sense...  but I really didn't say anything, but point out further what he said..about the forest analogy and the POEM!  soooooo.....

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 11, 2012, 07:48:01 PM
TS likes numbers, that much we know.  fordtocarr's post is a nice, short note of a gracious nature.  That could well be the whole of it or......that along with these numbers from her post:

post # 669 
6+6+9=21 (7+7+7)
date 2/9/2012
2+9+2+1+2=16=1+6=7
or her post number right now: 1497
1+4+9+7=21 (7+7+7)

Whole lotta 7's going on......BTC, can you please do me a favor and check my math  :lol:

Blessings Always
DANG!!!!  Magic  :)  I didn't make that happen, neither did Front, so tell me, can you take anyone's posts, add their numbers and come up with 7's??
yes it's magic! The numbers are divine.
Maybe that's why Elvis and Michael have been so fascinated by numbers. God created this world based on a numeric order and number 7 occurs a lot, also in the Bible...
Maybe that's why number 7 just so perfectly fits: I mean not only the number of your post totaled 21 [777], but also the date you posted it equals 7, as Wish showed in her message above ^^ so here we have 2 lovely "coincidences". I put it in inverted comas because even if nobody planned those numbers, it still is eery how number 7 fits so perfectly.
I wonder how TS noticed it? I mean he read all the comments on Front's topic and just like that he noticed no. 669 (your post) and the date. I'm trying to figure out why he redirected this to your message quoting Front. Also besides the fact that he wanted to validate Front one more time, he also loved the numerology coincidence in your number of posts related to the date you posted that particular 669 message.  This time seems to have really been a coincidence, a divine coincidence. I "blame" God on this one loll  :lol:
Can someone else find another explanation for this?? Also Wishingstar had a mind-blowing observance spirit to notice the exact same thing that TS' eyes noticed!!  :shock:

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 11, 2012, 07:57:07 PM
Creepy Sim.....
Here I thought he was leaving me some special message...like..stick to what I believe...etc, but that was written before I responded.  So perhaps, it didn't matter WHO posted, just that the numbers worked out.  Or perhaps, it was my referring to what I did that he was emphasizing.  But, then there is TWO coincidences.  So, I think that this was simply a repost to match the numbers no matter what the message was.

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 11, 2012, 08:45:15 PM
We can live in Love, Peace and Harmony as one people, if this simple -- I believe, truth -- is dearly engraved in people’s hearts. I believe this is what is happening in this forum. It's all for L.O.V.E.

Agreed.  8-)

Real life is more difficult.
You wouldn't want to believe how many folks chose lies over truth because it is easier for them to live with.
Actually, life becomes much more easy with truth because the hiding and all the work for hiding and cache-cache  just stops. But this demands honesty and humbleness, hindsight and slowing down and this many want to avoid because it demands personal growth and taking time for the essential in life.

Imagine the world would just stop until everybody has made up his mind how he wanted to live in the future...
Wouldn't this be just GREAT?
Instead we are hasting from appointment to date to family to bed to work. No wonder people are living in quarrels and are seldom contented. They don't take their due moments out of the hamster wheel.

So yes, love and life in peace are feasible - but don't forget how much time it took us to get to this moment now.
I firmly believe a "time-out" is a great opportunity to start listening to the essential again.
That's why I am voting in favour of a 7th day off - no matter if it is Monday, Saturday or Sunday.
I don't believe that God counts the days and makes crosses on the wall.
I think God is beyond that. Seriously. Would you really think God was counting crosses on the wall?
God is the only one knowing about the hearts and the souls and the minds and puts all that on a scale - if you need a comparison bar. God certainly does not need a comparison bar.

I think it is essential to feel that we are being loved and not being punished or threatened by fear.
Quote
“If you enter this world knowing you are loved and you leave this world knowing the same, then everything that happens in between can be dealt with.”

This is important. Not religion nor color, race, gender, belief.

WE ARE BEING LOVED. BY MICHAEL, BY GOD, BY OUR FAMILY, BY OUR FRIENDS.
BY OURSELVES. BY THE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD. (sometimes more, sometimes less
;) but still...)

If this doesn't make us strong against all evil, then I don't know what might make us strong.

BELIEVE in yourself.
Find your strength within yourself - with or without God, Allah, Jehovah, Jesus, Buddha or whomever you wanna thank for the blessings and challenges of life.

Much love.








said Gibran that religions are like the fingers, all of which lead to the hand or something like that, if we delve into all of them we find a unity of thought, the love respect/

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Re: TIAI February 10

  • on: February 11, 2012, 10:45:34 PM
@Paula...here's the Gibran quote (from The Vision, "On Human Unity"):

"You are my brother, and I love you.

I love you when you bow in your mosque, kneel in your temple, pray in your church. For you and I are sons of one religion, and it is the spirit. The leaders of the branches of this religion are like fingers of the hand of divinity, which point to the perfection of the soul."

I haven't read Gibran in a long time...thank you for mentioning him.  His writings have always brought me a sense of wonder, peace, and wisdom.

Here's something from him called "On Religion"...just beautiful.

On Religion
Kahlil Gibran

Have I spoken this day of aught else?
Is not religion all deeds and all reflection,
And that which is neither deed nor reflection, but a wonder and a surprise ever springing in the soul, even while the hands hew the stone or tend the loom?
Who can separate his faith from his actions, or his belief from his occupations?
Who can spread his hours before him, saying, "This for God and this for myself; This for my soul, and this other for my body?"
All your hours are wings that beat through space from self to self.
He who wears his morality but as his best garment were better naked.
The wind and the sun will tear no holes in his skin.
And he who defines his conduct by ethics imprisons his song-bird in a cage.
The freest song comes not through bars and wires.
And he to whom worshipping is a window, to open but also to shut, has not yet visited the house of his soul whose windows are from dawn to dawn.

Your daily life is your temple and your religion.
Whenever you enter into it take with you your all.
Take the plough and the forge and the mallet and the lute,
The things you have fashioned in necessity or for delight.
For in revery you cannot rise above your achievements nor fall lower than your failures.
And take with you all men:
For in adoration you cannot fly higher than their hopes nor humble yourself lower than their despair.

And if you would know God be not therefore a solver of riddles.
Rather look about you and you shall see Him playing with your children.
And look into space; you shall see Him walking in the cloud, outstretching His arms in the lightning and descending in rain.
You shall see Him smiling in flowers, then rising and waving His hands in trees.
http://www.katsandogz.com/onreligion.html

With L.O.V.E. always.
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