Madonna Illuminati Superbowl vs Michael's Heal the World Superbowl 93

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What thoughts does everyone have on the dark, weird Illuminati ritual vibe in Madonna's superbowl performance, vs MJ's in 93, so full of light and love? It goes without saying that Michael outclasses Madonna and has the real magic and talent that she was always just a cheap, tawdry imitation of. I compared the 2 after the Superbowl, imagining how mind-blowing "This is It" in London would have been. But we know what a visionary genius MJ is, and how the world is being united in a way it couldn't be before he "died." Didn't this come off to anyone else that way?

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I've already stated my opinion in TIAI thread.
I totally agree with you.
There is no way the 2 performances can be compared.

Michael is an angel comparing to Madonna. His message was full of love and light, reflecting his passion for the healing the world cause. All my respect and love goes to him.

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Nobody can beat our Michael  michael-jackson/

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Did you know that it was the Cirque du soleil (the same team as for the immortal tour) who help Madonna to stage the superbowl show? They talked about it all week here. It was a demand from Madonna to have this team...

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I thought it was a pretty cool performance actually.

Interesting about having the Cirque team help.

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Did you know that it was the Cirque du soleil (the same team as for the immortal tour) who help Madonna to stage the superbowl show? They talked about it all week here. It was a demand from Madonna to have this team...

Thank you for this extra info  bearhug !!! Wow I knew it  :shock:  :mrgreen: .Madonna was super,really COOL actually  8-) and after Michael's show from 1993 this is the second in my Super Bowl chart  /bravo/  !!!!!!!

LUV and WORLD PEACE for all  bearhug  !!!!!


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michael jackson was a thousand times more humble, gave signal to the fans hugged and portals, madonna is arrogance in person., it is optimal as an artist but as a person ...     :(  you saw how she treats her brothers? she is not worried about Anthony Ciccone.
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Do any of you know Madonna!? She works hard, goes to sleep by 9PM, gets up like 5AM - 6AM. Very dedicated to performing.
And please - don't compare Michael & her - like comparing apples & oranges. JUST because you've heard/seen a few things in the MEDIA, the same ones who portrayed Michael in a horrifying light, doesn't mean anything when it comes to her, either.

I actually went and saw the show, and feel that I should add Pilates to my workout, wow! WOW! That's all I can say about her!
Nothing to do with this fake Illuminati crud with her.

Remember this: Where do I live? Hollywood. That means that since I've been here, I've most likely met everyone at least once - more, if I liked them. Never saw any indication of any overlords, just a bunch of partying fans on one extreme, and then on the other hand, people like Michael & Madonna, who actually took care of themselves.

Madonna doing the Superbowl Halftime gig at over 50, marvelously. Need I say more?  :D
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Do any of you know Madonna!? She works hard, goes to sleep by 9PM, gets up like 5AM - 6AM. Very dedicated to performing.
And please - don't compare Michael & her - like comparing apples & oranges. JUST because you've heard/seen a few things in the MEDIA, the same ones who portrayed Michael in a horrifying light, doesn't mean anything when it comes to her, either.

I actually went and saw the show, and feel that I should add Pilates to my workout, wow! WOW! That's all I can say about her!
Nothing to do with this fake Illuminati crud with her.

Remember this: Where do I live? Hollywood. That means that since I've been here, I've most likely met everyone at least once - more, if I liked them. Never saw any indication of any overlords, just a bunch of partying fans on one extreme, and then on the other hand, people like Michael & Madonna, who actually took care of themselves.

Madonna doing the Superbowl Halftime gig at over 50, marvelously. Need I say more?  :D

Agree.  I don't think Madonna's half time and Michael's half time performance can be compared.

They were both brilliant in their own rights and in different ways.

Her performance was amazing and she also looks amazing and so healthy. She will be 54 this year.....all kudos to her I reckon.


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Did you know that it was the Cirque du soleil (the same team as for the immortal tour) who help Madonna to stage the superbowl show? They talked about it all week here. It was a demand from Madonna to have this team...

Here's the link to MJ's Superbowl. Madonna's is dark, robotic, creepy, unhuman, and decadent, and her energy is like watching a mediocre high school talent contest with no passion and actually awkward so-called "dancing." After that, Michael's is like a ray of sunshine and hope, and even though the effects were spectacular for the time, it was the drama and inner magnetism of Michael's mere presence and every move that drove the audience nuts, and magic just flew out of him you can't get from pyrotechnics. He spoke with humbleness and devotion and created a message of love, with the whole audience participating and holding hands as human beings, connected and sharing another great moment WITH him. There's a far cry between Madonna's gyrating on a stripper pole level of entertainment and the mastery and visionary deep spiritual humanity infused in everything Michael achieved. No one could move people to do what Michael did.
I'm just sayin. I performed in Vegas to Michael and Janet's choreography since the time of Thriller and Michael was always revered within the industry as untouchable and almost godlike, the epitome of talent, while Madonna was not taken seriously by professionals because she couldn't sing and was unoriginal in her dancing. Like Janet said, basically,  'I could stand out in the street naked and people would pay attention too, but that's not talent." But her trashy antics became the lowest common denominator that the masses got conditioned to, and it got more and more decadent from there. Michael has always been a true artist from the great musical legacies and traditions, and brought class to his work and rose the standard for all to aspire to. I was backstage with the original cast of Cirque. Show business is run by Illuminati, Zionists, and mobsters like Mottola who Michael was surrounded by, and as we all know, he spoke out against them and resisted them. Madonna, it should be clear to anyone who followed her from her beginnings, is a tool for them. This performance I found soulless and self-serving, and full of ritualistic symbols. What was that "Love Madonna Y.O.U." ego-gratification trip? Michael's was an expression of individuality and a clear purpose to give and uplift others. People have forgotten performing is not supposed to be an orgy of gratification, but an intimate connection to our hearts that leaves us better than we were before.  I hope this link works to Michael's halftime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idg8TNknvDU&feature=related




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Wasn't it after  Michael's superbowl performance that the alegations begun? I always felt there was a connection between the message of love he managed to convey to the whole world via this performance and the efforts to bring him down soon after...
What do you think??? :-|
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Wasn't it after  Michael's superbowl performance that the alegations begun? I always felt there was a connection between the message of love he managed to convey to the whole world via this performance and the efforts to bring him down soon after...
What do you think??? :-|

I felt the same.
That's no coincidence.
No matter what some of you guys say, I just don't like Madonna. Don't like her. Period.

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Did you know that it was the Cirque du soleil (the same team as for the immortal tour) who help Madonna to stage the superbowl show? They talked about it all week here. It was a demand from Madonna to have this team...

Here's the link to MJ's Superbowl. Madonna's is dark, robotic, creepy, unhuman, and decadent, and her energy is like watching a mediocre high school talent contest with no passion and actually awkward so-called "dancing." After that, Michael's is like a ray of sunshine and hope, and even though the effects were spectacular for the time, it was the drama and inner magnetism of Michael's mere presence and every move that drove the audience nuts, and magic just flew out of him you can't get from pyrotechnics. He spoke with humbleness and devotion and created a message of love, with the whole audience participating and holding hands as human beings, connected and sharing another great moment WITH him. There's a far cry between Madonna's gyrating on a stripper pole level of entertainment and the mastery and visionary deep spiritual humanity infused in everything Michael achieved. No one could move people to do what Michael did.
I'm just sayin. I performed in Vegas to Michael and Janet's choreography since the time of Thriller and Michael was always revered within the industry as untouchable and almost godlike, the epitome of talent, while Madonna was not taken seriously by professionals because she couldn't sing and was unoriginal in her dancing. Like Janet said, basically,  'I could stand out in the street naked and people would pay attention too, but that's not talent." But her trashy antics became the lowest common denominator that the masses got conditioned to, and it got more and more decadent from there. Michael has always been a true artist from the great musical legacies and traditions, and brought class to his work and rose the standard for all to aspire to. I was backstage with the original cast of Cirque. Show business is run by Illuminati, Zionists, and mobsters like Mottola who Michael was surrounded by, and as we all know, he spoke out against them and resisted them. Madonna, it should be clear to anyone who followed her from her beginnings, is a tool for them. This performance I found soulless and self-serving, and full of ritualistic symbols. What was that "Love Madonna Y.O.U." ego-gratification trip? Michael's was an expression of individuality and a clear purpose to give and uplift others. People have forgotten performing is not supposed to be an orgy of gratification, but an intimate connection to our hearts that leaves us better than we were before.  I hope this link works to Michael's halftime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idg8TNknvDU&feature=related





I agree with you.

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Chapeau bas Madonna!!  the Artist!!

She did a great job!
I always loved Madonna, her music, her shows, her videos!
She's really a great artist, great entertainer!
She's a beautiful woman, very original and very courageous to show a sexy , even vulgar side, without being dis-gracious!! She conquered me with her brave optimistic character.
And IMO, Lady Gaga is nothing but a grotesque and poor, pathetic copy of Madonna.

Though:
I will not commit the mistake to compare Michael to Madonna. (or vice-versa)
Nor have I ever compared Elvis to Michael (or vice-versa)
They simply CANNOT be compared!!!
Nevertheless they are all VALUABLE artists and no one, objective enough, can deny this!

On the other hand: I've read and listened to a lot of Madonna interviews! I can't say I like her as a person! She knows her value alright, she always knew what she wanted! Good girl! BUT she was never humble, modest... she's not what I'd call a "lovely character".
That's why I never considered myself a Madonna fan! Just an admirer!
And once I heard Michael saying that Madonna was jealous of him and his success, then I had everything explained! I had the same suspicion: she is really self-centered person and I definitely picture her as a very envious/jealous celebrity in relation to other celebrities! This certainly comes from her natural lack of modesty and humbleness! She lost a LOT because of that! and she is not even aware of it! she will never be because she can't change that , especially because from what I could learn ab out her: she doesn't  believe in God either!
I don't know if she's a satanist or an Illuminati puppet! I see her more like an independent person who does only what she wants, I'd rather doubt that she would take any orders from a fanatic leader! But again... I'm not sure about this...I only give my opinion...
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Wasn't it after  Michael's superbowl performance that the alegations begun? I always felt there was a connection between the message of love he managed to convey to the whole world via this performance and the efforts to bring him down soon after...
What do you think??? :-|

Exactly.

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I've  got to say that she put on a good show,  and she's in great shape for her years ect, but it was disturbing for me. And what gave me the heebie jeebies was the  very ending of when she was performing Like A Prayer .......she gets to the very last line and she says " I call your name and it takes me home. And she disappears downward  from sight as she says he word" home." Visually loaded statement there!  :? Very disturbing imagery.

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Did you know that it was the Cirque du soleil (the same team as for the immortal tour) who help Madonna to stage the superbowl show? They talked about it all week here. It was a demand from Madonna to have this team...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgXzMgPYjMo&feature=related


yeah...thats what i thought. madonna's performance was indicative dedication, hardwork, commitment and determination. it was a very well orchestrated performance. I don't think she deserves to be bashed, honestly. She admitted that she was going to be extremely nervous. it's really hard performing in front of fans. michael grew up around a crowd, so from that perspective alone it desensitized him. madonna is cool, and that performance was ecstatic.

Here's the link to MJ's Superbowl. Madonna's is dark, robotic, creepy, unhuman, and decadent, and her energy is like watching a mediocre high school talent contest with no passion and actually awkward so-called "dancing." After that, Michael's is like a ray of sunshine and hope, and even though the effects were spectacular for the time, it was the drama and inner magnetism of Michael's mere presence and every move that drove the audience nuts, and magic just flew out of him you can't get from pyrotechnics. He spoke with humbleness and devotion and created a message of love, with the whole audience participating and holding hands as human beings, connected and sharing another great moment WITH him. There's a far cry between Madonna's gyrating on a stripper pole level of entertainment and the mastery and visionary deep spiritual humanity infused in everything Michael achieved. No one could move people to do what Michael did.
I'm just sayin. I performed in Vegas to Michael and Janet's choreography since the time of Thriller and Michael was always revered within the industry as untouchable and almost godlike, the epitome of talent, while Madonna was not taken seriously by professionals because she couldn't sing and was unoriginal in her dancing. Like Janet said, basically,  'I could stand out in the street naked and people would pay attention too, but that's not talent." But her trashy antics became the lowest common denominator that the masses got conditioned to, and it got more and more decadent from there. Michael has always been a true artist from the great musical legacies and traditions, and brought class to his work and rose the standard for all to aspire to. I was backstage with the original cast of Cirque. Show business is run by Illuminati, Zionists, and mobsters like Mottola who Michael was surrounded by, and as we all know, he spoke out against them and resisted them. Madonna, it should be clear to anyone who followed her from her beginnings, is a tool for them. This performance I found soulless and self-serving, and full of ritualistic symbols. What was that "Love Madonna Y.O.U." ego-gratification trip? Michael's was an expression of individuality and a clear purpose to give and uplift others. People have forgotten performing is not supposed to be an orgy of gratification, but an intimate connection to our hearts that leaves us better than we were before.  I hope this link works to Michael's halftime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idg8TNknvDU&feature=related





I agree with you.


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Did you know that it was the Cirque du soleil (the same team as for the immortal tour) who help Madonna to stage the superbowl show? They talked about it all week here. It was a demand from Madonna to have this team...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgXzMgPYjMo&feature=related


yeah...thats what i thought. madonna's performance was indicative dedication, hardwork, commitment and determination. it was a very well orchestrated performance. I don't think she deserves to be bashed, honestly. She admitted that she was going to be extremely nervous. it's really hard performing in front of fans. michael grew up around a crowd, so from that perspective alone it desensitized him. madonna is cool, and that performance was ecstatic.

Here's the link to MJ's Superbowl. Madonna's is dark, robotic, creepy, unhuman, and decadent, and her energy is like watching a mediocre high school talent contest with no passion and actually awkward so-called "dancing." After that, Michael's is like a ray of sunshine and hope, and even though the effects were spectacular for the time, it was the drama and inner magnetism of Michael's mere presence and every move that drove the audience nuts, and magic just flew out of him you can't get from pyrotechnics. He spoke with humbleness and devotion and created a message of love, with the whole audience participating and holding hands as human beings, connected and sharing another great moment WITH him. There's a far cry between Madonna's gyrating on a stripper pole level of entertainment and the mastery and visionary deep spiritual humanity infused in everything Michael achieved. No one could move people to do what Michael did.
I'm just sayin. I performed in Vegas to Michael and Janet's choreography since the time of Thriller and Michael was always revered within the industry as untouchable and almost godlike, the epitome of talent, while Madonna was not taken seriously by professionals because she couldn't sing and was unoriginal in her dancing. Like Janet said, basically,  'I could stand out in the street naked and people would pay attention too, but that's not talent." But her trashy antics became the lowest common denominator that the masses got conditioned to, and it got more and more decadent from there. Michael has always been a true artist from the great musical legacies and traditions, and brought class to his work and rose the standard for all to aspire to. I was backstage with the original cast of Cirque. Show business is run by Illuminati, Zionists, and mobsters like Mottola who Michael was surrounded by, and as we all know, he spoke out against them and resisted them. Madonna, it should be clear to anyone who followed her from her beginnings, is a tool for them. This performance I found soulless and self-serving, and full of ritualistic symbols. What was that "Love Madonna Y.O.U." ego-gratification trip? Michael's was an expression of individuality and a clear purpose to give and uplift others. People have forgotten performing is not supposed to be an orgy of gratification, but an intimate connection to our hearts that leaves us better than we were before.  I hope this link works to Michael's halftime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idg8TNknvDU&feature=related





I agree with you.


Did you know that it was the Cirque du soleil (the same team as for the immortal tour) who help Madonna to stage the superbowl show? They talked about it all week here. It was a demand from Madonna to have this team...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgXzMgPYjMo&feature=related


yeah...thats what i thought. madonna's performance was indicative dedication, hardwork, commitment and determination. it was a very well orchestrated performance. I don't think she deserves to be bashed, honestly. She admitted that she was going to be extremely nervous. it's really hard performing in front of fans. michael grew up around a crowd, so from that perspective alone it desensitized him. madonna is cool, and that performance was ecstatic.


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There is only one Madonna and this is not Louise Veronica Ciccone.

YES.

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Chapeau bas Madonna!!  the Artist!!

She did a great job!
I always loved Madonna, her music, her shows, her videos!
She's really a great artist, great entertainer!
She's a beautiful woman, very original and very courageous to show a sexy , even vulgar side, without being dis-gracious!! She conquered me with her brave optimistic character.
And IMO, Lady Gaga is nothing but a grotesque and poor, pathetic copy of Madonna.

Though:
I will not commit the mistake to compare Michael to Madonna. (or vice-versa)
Nor have I ever compared Elvis to Michael (or vice-versa)
They simply CANNOT be compared!!!
Nevertheless they are all VALUABLE artists and no one, objective enough, can deny this!

Great post,thank you very much Simpa  bearhug !!! It's great to see some positivity here,cause of negativity we had alot  :( .
I'm sorry to say this but lately I noticed that many speak about Michael's way of dancing,even if they don't even bother to REALLY WATCH HIM DANCE.Of course Michael is a wonderful human being and a very charitable one,but this has nothing,absolutely nothing to do with his STYLE OF DANCING in front of people,especially in tours.He can be sometimes very "aggressive"  :shock:  geek/  during his performances,but hey I think that all that people have to do is to REALLY watch his shows and stop with some nonsens they are writing over and over again.First of all Michael is a human being,then he is a MAN,do you all hear me???? He is a MAN and he is very proud of that  8-) .He may be an "angel" sometimes,but the "little devil" inside him,can make him do things that you don't even imagine ,lol  :-X  :mrgreen: .


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There is only one Madonna and this is not Louise Veronica Ciccone.

YES.
Oh come on please....it´s really not her fault that her first name is Madonna, is it?
I really admire her discipline and her purposefulness and determination.
Whether one likes her or not, one should at least grant her that.
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There's nothing a her that makes me feel a good vibration.

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@thrillerdanceinmachine - Me thinks you don't understand a performance using the best of the latest TECHNOLOGY at hand, along with light and shadow, the sun had set. The FLAT SCREENS LIT UP, with plenty of light, in contrast to Madonna and HER DANCERS!
She didn't do that much dancing. Come to think of it, SHE WAS SINGING, so the DANCERS did all the HARD WORK!!

THIS WOMAN IS 54, and kicking most of everyone's ass on here with her singing and dancing, I bet you! Armchair quarterbacking, at the WORST! WORST, I tell you.

And as for the ILLUSION at the end of Like a Prayer once again - I see people inserting their OWN ideas! She was supposed to disappear in MID-AIR, to those watching live, at the Superbowl, HELLO! OF COURSE, this Illusion's busted, and she had to go downward, duh!

Madonna came from a wealthy family, for those who aren't aware. No "alleged Illuminati" involved at all. She paid for voice coaches. She actually improved, and outlasted so many who did drugs, drank themselves to death! Raised her kids...

What kills me? SHE is a huge star in her own right! She's not a dude, ergo no reason for there to ever be any friction between her and Michael. They went out, remember!? We've only heard ONE SIDE of that, correct? From...the MEDIA.

Shame on everyone who's being critical of this wonderful PERFORMER!

Michael wouldn't judge her - he'd be applauding her, for her efforts!

"Judge not, lest ye, yourself be judged." THE BIBLE

If I can look so hot and dance so great at her age, I'd be happy enough! Add in singing, well I can't sing.
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Thank you for your inside view on MJ and Madonna in the business. MJ did have a few things to say about Madonna, and none of them were positive.
I did in fact think her performance was quite creative and well done, especially as Cirque has top level dancers and design people.  It was truly professional and eye-catching, but let’s face it, MJ has pure and simple charisma and original creativity/genius. His performance clearly included a pure love message for ALL humanity/children, that may tie in with what we are studying here.
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The idea of using “X” in place of Christ is not a modern idea. In the Modern Roman Alphabet, which comes from the Greeks who were before Rome, the first letter of the word “Christ” is “chi” which is represented by a symbol similar to the letter “X.”

X in Ancient Greek is pronounced as the hard “ch.” The Greek Chi or X is the first letter in the Greek word Christos as in Iesus Christos aka Jesus Christ. You will frequently see people write Xmas, as well as Xian, which means Christian, using the same principle.


Chi is written as an “X” and Rho is written as a “P,” but they are the first two letters of the Greek word Christ “savior” “XP” is sometimes used to stand for. Sometimes X is used alone. This is the case in the Chi (X) abbreviation for Christ in Xmas.

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I've  got to say that she put on a good show,  and she's in great shape for her years ect, but it was disturbing for me.

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She works hard, goes to sleep by 9PM, gets up like 5AM - 6AM. Very dedicated to performing.
 And please - don't compare Michael & her - like comparing apples & oranges.

Madonna doing the Superbowl Halftime gig at over 50, marvelously. Need I say more?

 

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