Quincy Jones: I forgive Michael

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Re: The LIE becomes the truth - in stories

  • on: February 06, 2012, 09:24:37 AM
Well i don't want to sound negative but Q was half right when he said M.J. did not want to be black.I believe M.J. was programmed that way,so of course it was not his fault.M.J. was very handsome with brown skin.What did they do to my poor baby.M.J was definitely a victim of some form of mind control,but no one  wants to talk about it,unfortunately.

Why do you tow the "party-line" that Michael was allegedly a victim here? He stood up to Quincy!

Standing up to people, is part of growing up. I do think Quincy was a jerk - I think he's the one who traumatized Michael more than anyone else, by making him cry in the recording studio. And, I think he did more to him mentally, by not believing him. I think QUINCY is why Michael withdrew from people, by hounding him over his looks - how shallow!

You know what? Quincy's another on the "show your true colors" list. And he has many times now. Almost 80, and he seethes jealousy of Michael's fame. I swear, I saw Prince recoil at his touch.

How many more are to be weeded out? I feel the list is almost finished...

Liz Taylor's health messed things up last year, is my guess. I'll bet you, Michael was in disguise, caring for her. Now he's just needed to breathe, do things on his own - through 2013.
I totally agree with you,he is the main person on my shit list.I am pretty confident that Q is a pedophile,and his actions and behavior made M.J. feel uncomfortable.The point i was making is,if Michael did not like how he looked it was not his fault.He was obviously mentally and verbally abused by some of the adults surrounding him.I also believe that the Pepsi accident was staged,Michael was still brown skinned before the accident,when we saw him again he had white skin.I am not saying he did not have vitiligo ,but i do believe my baby was a victim of some type of mind control.I love M.j. no matter what his skin color was,or is.I just hate how he was taken advantage of his whole life.
MJ u are so beautiful,inside and out,u truly are a gift from God.I love u,brother.

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Re: Quincy Jones: I forgive Michael

  • on: February 06, 2012, 12:40:12 PM
Like what GINAFLiCIA said in one of her posts that made me laugh  :lol:  :lol: i thank her for it. so this for quincy:YOU ARE 79 YEARS OLD, WHY DON'T YOU GO HOME, STAY THERE AND ENJOY THE REST OF THE TIME THAT STILL YOU HAVE  :lol:
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Re: The LIE becomes the truth - in stories

  • on: February 07, 2012, 09:10:36 AM
Well i don't want to sound negative but Q was half right when he said M.J. did not want to be black.I believe M.J. was programmed that way,so of course it was not his fault.M.J. was very handsome with brown skin.What did they do to my poor baby.M.J was definitely a victim of some form of mind control,but no one  wants to talk about it,unfortunately.

Why do you tow the "party-line" that Michael was allegedly a victim here? He stood up to Quincy!

Standing up to people, is part of growing up. I do think Quincy was a jerk - I think he's the one who traumatized Michael more than anyone else, by making him cry in the recording studio. And, I think he did more to him mentally, by not believing him. I think QUINCY is why Michael withdrew from people, by hounding him over his looks - how shallow!

You know what? Quincy's another on the "show your true colors" list. And he has many times now. Almost 80, and he seethes jealousy of Michael's fame. I swear, I saw Prince recoil at his touch.

How many more are to be weeded out? I feel the list is almost finished...

Liz Taylor's health messed things up last year, is my guess. I'll bet you, Michael was in disguise, caring for her. Now he's just needed to breathe, do things on his own - through 2013.
I totally agree with you,he is the main person on my shit list.I am pretty confident that Q is a pedophile,and his actions and behavior made M.J. feel uncomfortable.The point i was making is,if Michael did not like how he looked it was not his fault.He was obviously mentally and verbally abused by some of the adults surrounding him.I also believe that the Pepsi accident was staged,Michael was still brown skinned before the accident,when we saw him again he had white skin.I am not saying he did not have vitiligo ,but i do believe my baby was a victim of some type of mind control.I love M.j. no matter what his skin color was,or is.I just hate how he was taken advantage of his whole life.
:o It never occurred to me, that Quincy was perhaps one of the bad guys... It really makes me wonder, if the Pepsi accident wasn't done, to permanently disfigure Michael at the peak of his fame then! ::) Perhaps the accident started the Vitilago, which was dormant until then?

And then that horrible fall in Munich, 1999 of 30'! I don't believe in coincidences. I'm suspicious, when I know someone's been getting death threats.
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Re: The LIE becomes the truth - in stories

  • on: February 07, 2012, 12:17:16 PM
Well i don't want to sound negative but Q was half right when he said M.J. did not want to be black.I believe M.J. was programmed that way,so of course it was not his fault.M.J. was very handsome with brown skin.What did they do to my poor baby.M.J was definitely a victim of some form of mind control,but no one  wants to talk about it,unfortunately.

Why do you tow the "party-line" that Michael was allegedly a victim here? He stood up to Quincy!

Standing up to people, is part of growing up. I do think Quincy was a jerk - I think he's the one who traumatized Michael more than anyone else, by making him cry in the recording studio. And, I think he did more to him mentally, by not believing him. I think QUINCY is why Michael withdrew from people, by hounding him over his looks - how shallow!

You know what? Quincy's another on the "show your true colors" list. And he has many times now. Almost 80, and he seethes jealousy of Michael's fame. I swear, I saw Prince recoil at his touch.

How many more are to be weeded out? I feel the list is almost finished...

Liz Taylor's health messed things up last year, is my guess. I'll bet you, Michael was in disguise, caring for her. Now he's just needed to breathe, do things on his own - through 2013.
I totally agree with you,he is the main person on my shit list.I am pretty confident that Q is a pedophile,and his actions and behavior made M.J. feel uncomfortable.The point i was making is,if Michael did not like how he looked it was not his fault.He was obviously mentally and verbally abused by some of the adults surrounding him.I also believe that the Pepsi accident was staged,Michael was still brown skinned before the accident,when we saw him again he had white skin.I am not saying he did not have vitiligo ,but i do believe my baby was a victim of some type of mind control.I love M.j. no matter what his skin color was,or is.I just hate how he was taken advantage of his whole life.
:o It never occurred to me, that Quincy was perhaps one of the bad guys... It really makes me wonder, if the Pepsi accident wasn't done, to permanently disfigure Michael at the peak of his fame then! ::) Perhaps the accident started the Vitilago, which was dormant until then?

And then that horrible fall in Munich, 1999 of 30'! I don't believe in coincidences. I'm suspicious, when I know someone's been getting death threats.
Tink,u and i think the same way.I am also suspicious about this incidents that happened in Michael s life.That cant be all coincidences.These things were done for a reason.The question is was it all Michael s plan,or were the evil doers planning this from day 1.There is no question in my mind that M.J. received death threats.His heart was to good and pure,and they wanted him to be bad and dark.They have been trying to ruin that man ever since they realized they couldn't control him.
MJ u are so beautiful,inside and out,u truly are a gift from God.I love u,brother.

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Re: Quincy Jones: I forgive Michael

  • on: February 07, 2012, 03:47:56 PM
Well i don't want to sound negative but Q was half right when he said M.J. did not want to be black.I believe M.J. was programmed that way,so of course it was not his fault.M.J. was very handsome with brown skin.What did they do to my poor baby.M.J was definitely a victim of some form of mind control,but no one  wants to talk about it,unfortunately.

Why do you tow the "party-line" that Michael was allegedly a victim here? He stood up to Quincy!

Standing up to people, is part of growing up. I do think Quincy was a jerk - I think he's the one who traumatized Michael more than anyone else, by making him cry in the recording studio. And, I think he did more to him mentally, by not believing him. I think QUINCY is why Michael withdrew from people, by hounding him over his looks - how shallow!

You know what? Quincy's another on the "show your true colors" list. And he has many times now. Almost 80, and he seethes jealousy of Michael's fame. I swear, I saw Prince recoil at his touch.

How many more are to be weeded out? I feel the list is almost finished...

Liz Taylor's health messed things up last year, is my guess. I'll bet you, Michael was in disguise, caring for her. Now he's just needed to breathe, do things on his own - through 2013.
I totally agree with you,he is the main person on my shit list.I am pretty confident that Q is a pedophile,and his actions and behavior made M.J. feel uncomfortable.The point i was making is,if Michael did not like how he looked it was not his fault.He was obviously mentally and verbally abused by some of the adults surrounding him.I also believe that the Pepsi accident was staged,Michael was still brown skinned before the accident,when we saw him again he had white skin.I am not saying he did not have vitiligo ,but i do believe my baby was a victim of some type of mind control.I love M.j. no matter what his skin color was,or is.I just hate how he was taken advantage of his whole life.
:o It never occurred to me, that Quincy was perhaps one of the bad guys... It really makes me wonder, if the Pepsi accident wasn't done, to permanently disfigure Michael at the peak of his fame then! ::) Perhaps the accident started the Vitilago, which was dormant until then?

And then that horrible fall in Munich, 1999 of 30'! I don't believe in coincidences. I'm suspicious, when I know someone's been getting death threats.

Tink :)  bearhug   ,Michael was diagnosed oficially with Vitiligo in 1980 by doctor Arnie Klein and Michael himself told Oprah about it ,so it was before Pepsi accident  :mrgreen: .



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” I was first diagnosed by this disease during the time, when I released my ‘Off the Wall’ album. At that time I was to used to cover it up by the help of cosmetics, ‘Listen I’m not trying to be white, I have a skin disease. That, I can’t control, but when people make up stories that I don’t want to be who I am it hurts me.

As regarding 1999 "accident" , there is something let's say strange  :?  that I never understood about it.Some things just don't add up so nobody really knows what happened there,just Michael and his staff  albino/ .Yes before I forgot ,there was a member here on the forum,who was there in the public in 1999,and let me tell you that she and her friend were very confused about what happened then .So I'm not very surprised that I'm confused lol,cause  even the persons who were there live,are confused  :?  albino/ .Until we will have the whole show from the BEGINING till the END we will never know the truth  :mrgreen: .

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Re: Quincy Jones: I forgive Michael

  • on: February 07, 2012, 05:22:54 PM
Michael said vitiligo was in his family from his father's side.

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 Most experts believe that there is a genetic base to vitiligo which leads to susceptibility. In about 12% of families where a person has vitiligo, the condition is seen in another family member. Though no one else in your family may show signs of vitiligo, it is still possible that it is passed on genetically. The most likely reason for this is that more than one gene is responsible for the development of vitiligo. In fact, a combination of genes that may prove to be involved. In some cases, an independent stimulus may cause the condition to onset.

Genes are inherited in a random fashion from both parents, so only sometimes will the genes which make a person susceptible to vitiligo come together in the same person. Those who do not inherit a complete set of the abnormal genes are unlikely to develop the disorder. Those people who do inherit a complete set may also need some other factor to trigger the vitiligo patches to appear. In this way vitiligo genes can pass through several generations of a family without anyone actually developing vitiligo.
 
 Currently, researchers are studying the genetic aspects of vitiligo, using gene-sequencing computers and the mapping of the human genome to determine how genetic therapy and technology might help treat or arrest vitiligo.


What is genetic susceptibility?
This is the theory that the susceptibility or predisposition to vitiligo is genetic, and that some defect in the genetic structure, makes people more susceptible to vitiligo. While we do see vitiligo in more than one family member about 20% of the time, about 80% of patients report no other family members with vitiligo. Many experts agree that not everyone who is susceptible to vitiligo will necessarily develop it. Recent genetic studies, which ran the DNA of hundreds of people with vitiligo through gene sequencing computers, have produced important information about the enzyme operations in the bodies of those with vitiligo, which may help researchers better understand how to treat the underlying cause of vitiligo.

As with all genes, people may carry the defect that causes vitiligo, and even pass it on to their children, without ever developing vitiligo themselves. Thus other factors, including environmental and personality factors, may play a role in the onset (beginning) of vitiligo.
http://www.vitiligosupport.org/faq.cfm



Jermaine once said he was Aaron (MJ's spokesman) and Michael was Moses. (Also Elvis' middle name is Aaron.)  TS???
Regardless, MJ asked for a sign that he was the Chosen One in the song Cry.  Moses also asked for a sign, and he got---VITILIGO!!
Perhaps MJ will get his black skin color back yet in due time!!
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Exodus 4  (KJV)

1And Moses answered and said, But, behold, they will not believe me, nor hearken unto my voice: for they will say, The LORD hath not appeared unto thee. 2And the LORD said unto him, What is that in thine hand? And he said, A rod. 3And he said, Cast it on the ground. And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before it. 4And the LORD said unto Moses, Put forth thine hand, and take it by the tail. And he put forth his hand, and caught it, and it became a rod in his hand: 5That they may believe that the LORD God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath appeared unto thee. 6And the LORD said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow. 7And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosom again. And he put his hand into his bosom again; and plucked it out of his bosom, and, behold, it was turned again as his other flesh.

8And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither hearken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign. 9And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe also these two signs, neither hearken unto thy voice, that thou shalt take of the water of the river, and pour it upon the dry land: and the water which thou takest out of the river shall become blood upon the dry land. 10And Moses said unto the LORD, O my LORD, I am not eloquent, neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken unto thy servant: but I am slow of speech, and of a slow tongue. 11And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD? 12Now therefore go, and I will be with thy mouth, and teach thee what thou shalt say. 13And he said, O my LORD, send, I pray thee, by the hand of him whom thou wilt send. 14And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Moses, and he said, Is not Aaron the Levite thy brother? I know that he can speak well. And also, behold, he cometh forth to meet thee: and when he seeth thee, he will be glad in his heart. 15And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and will teach you what ye shall do. 16And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God. 17And thou shalt take this rod in thine hand, wherewith thou shalt do signs.
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Re: Quincy Jones: I forgive Michael

  • on: February 07, 2012, 07:32:56 PM
Does Prince have vitiligo? I see the picture on site that looks to have splotches under his arms.