Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

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Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 27, 2012, 07:50:32 PM
Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

LOS ANGELES (AP) — The doctor convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Michael Jackson's death is asking a judge to release him from jail pending his appeal.

Dr. Conrad Murray said in a motion filed Friday that he should be released either on his own recognizance or on bail with electronic monitoring. He said he is not a danger to society.

Murray, who is serving a four-year sentence, said he would try to find employment to contribute to the support of his seven children.

His lawyer said Murray is being held in solitary confinement and is chained to a table when he meets with his lawyers. He said the sentence and confinement are extremely severe for a man with no prior criminal history and that Murray is extremely sorrowful about Jackson's death.



Can you imagine the unbelieving fans...he was CONVICTED !  How can he get out and be safe??

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 27, 2012, 08:43:27 PM
well i saw somewhere the other day someone asked what was goin on with murray , guess they are being abliged
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 27, 2012, 08:47:25 PM
 OMG! lolol/

Chained to the table? This is getting better with every new article.

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 27, 2012, 09:00:12 PM
OMG! lolol/

Chained to the table? This is getting better with every new article.




Incredible !!!!   /white flag/  geek/  :lol:
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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 27, 2012, 09:23:45 PM
Chained to a table......just like an animal huh?
Makes me think of this photo.

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 27, 2012, 11:19:21 PM
Chained to a table......just like an animal huh?
Makes me think of this photo.

OMG! that is the very first thing that came to mind when i read this!
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 27, 2012, 11:38:51 PM
OMG! lolol/

Chained to the table? This is getting better with every new article.

yes silly girl , don't you know he may have a hidden does of propfol and whip it out and kill someone! penguin/
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 28, 2012, 03:52:49 AM
OK, since when can i convict ask to be released so he can be a member of society because he poses no threat?? Is this for real? He's "suppose" to be in prison. How many other inmates on a daily basis ask if they can be released because they are not a threat to society? Hhhhmmm...suppose to have killed King of Pop, but hey he asked "nicely" if he could be released....pretty please.....that ought to mean something right? Why would a story even be made public for such a stupid request? Only in the "death" of Michael Jackson does this silly stuff happen..

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 28, 2012, 04:21:57 AM
OMG! lolol/

Chained to the table? This is getting better with every new article.


Anyone would think he was Hannibal Lecter or something

 :lol:

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 28, 2012, 06:47:23 AM
Chained to a table......just like an animal huh?
Makes me think of this photo.

OMG! that is the very first thing that came to mind when i read this!


Just like in the lyrics of the song  "Monster"  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



and here is a link to the article about this on TMZ   http://www.tmz.com/2012/01/27/dr-conrad-murray-michael-jackson-get-out-of-jail/
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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 28, 2012, 07:24:30 AM
OMG! lolol/

Chained to the table? This is getting better with every new article.


Anyone would think he was Hannibal Lecter or something

 :lol:


 :lol:


".....Clarice....."





I would prefer to see an actual pic of Conrad in prison, not mere words.  bow/ 
And why is he chained to the table only when the lawyers are present?  Are they afraid he will lunge at them?
Seemed to me that all the people who interview him, found that Conrad could explain his way out of everything, that he never did anything wrong. He accused MJ of setting a trap for him, so that now he Conrad is the victim. He may be "extremely sorrowful about Jackson's death", but not sorry for helping him die.


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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 28, 2012, 07:45:26 AM
Chained to a table......just like an animal huh?
Makes me think of this photo.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb2o30lITcs&feature=related[/youtube]

Monster
He’s a monster
He’s an animal

Monster (yea-eah)
He’s a monster
He’s an animal
  penguin/  :lol:

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 28, 2012, 11:55:18 AM
OK, since when can i convict ask to be released so he can be a member of society because he poses no threat?? Is this for real? He's "suppose" to be in prison. How many other inmates on a daily basis ask if they can be released because they are not a threat to society? Hhhhmmm...suppose to have killed King of Pop, but hey he asked "nicely" if he could be released....pretty please.....that ought to mean something right? Why would a story even be made public for such a stupid request? Only in the "death" of Michael Jackson does this silly stuff happen..

Yes, it does happen in other cases, but rarely granted.  Just FYI, he's not in "prison"; he's in jail.  There is a difference. 

But I HIGHLY doubt he is "chained to the table" when his lawyers are present.  Sorry, I don't buy that.

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 28, 2012, 02:20:27 PM
Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release
[...]Dr. Conrad Murray said in a motion filed Friday that he should be released either on his own recognizance
or on bail with electronic monitoring. He said he is not a danger to society.[...]
^^ This reminded me of this:
 Another doc, released on bailed monitoring ;) Just another common point! or maybe a "coincidence"? lol  :lol:
« Last Edit: January 28, 2012, 02:22:00 PM by SimPattyK »

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 28, 2012, 06:15:18 PM
My son was in jail for minor violation. He asked to be released.... they told him NO!....

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 28, 2012, 08:46:58 PM
To me...I thought, "He is not a danger to society",
But,
Is society a danger to HIM!!!  (Michael...get it??  Michael hurt no one, but was accused of pretty much being a danger to society.  But, it was society that was a danger to HIM)

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 28, 2012, 09:57:23 PM
To me...I thought, "He is not a danger to society",
But,
Is society a danger to HIM!!!  (Michael...get it??  Michael hurt no one, but was accused of pretty much being a danger to society.  But, it was society that was a danger to HIM)

Great interpretation. I definitely see the parallels
"You can't do your best when you're doubting yourself. If you don't believe in yourself, who will?" - Michael Jackson...Moonwalk

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 28, 2012, 10:58:24 PM
Whether chained to a table story is true or not, maybe we're all to feel sorry for him now.
'Money...Lie for it Spy for it Kill for it Die for it They'd kill for the money Do or dare'

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 28, 2012, 11:32:39 PM
I know in my state of Wisconsin, an inmate only spends time jail if sentenced to a YEAR OR LESS. Any sentence over a year, automatically goes to state prison. Didn't realize someone can spend 4 years in local jail. Jail is usually used for revolving door, nothing long term. Does anyone know about what state Murray laws are? or if it varies from county to county?

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 29, 2012, 12:52:16 PM
Dear Loveshy,
California, which is in such dire financial straights, has been releasing any criminals sent to PRISON for what are considered "non-violent" offenses--they are returned to county jurisdiction and thus become the responsibility of the county sheriff.  That is why, when Murray was sentanced to 4 years, the judge reminded people that although he was imposing the maximum sentance, he (the judge) had no authority over amount of time to be served as that is up to the sheriff. So the cost of reprimanding criminals shifts from the state budget to the county budget.....

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 29, 2012, 05:05:24 PM
Sounds alot like my work policies. Case by case basis. No consitency. I can 5 xtra minutes in break room, I will get talked to about long breaks. But another co-worker can spend an xtra hour in break room, not a word is said. So sounds like California & surrounding counties is up the "supervisor/sheriff" who want to enforce what they want.....Great system we have in the USA.

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 31, 2012, 09:11:04 AM
To me...I thought, "He is not a danger to society",
But,
Is society a danger to HIM!!!  (Michael...get it??  Michael hurt no one, but was accused of pretty much being a danger to society.  But, it was society that was a danger to HIM)


That's exactly what I was thinking.


In light of the similar article that MeandMyShadow and Scorpionchik posted, I'm reminded of the "Cities of Refuge" spoken of in the bible, where in the case of an "unintentional killing" (involuntary manslaughter for Murray), the guilty one could go there and be kept safe from the "avenger of blood" as long as they didn't leave the area, otherwise if anyone wanted to kill them, and they left the city, it would be fair game lol. 


He said he is not a danger to society, will not flee the area, and wants to work to help support his seven children.

[...]

Jackson died in June 2009 from an overdose of the anesthetic propofol, administered by Murray. Flanagan conceded that Murray made some medical misjudgments but said he never intended harm to Jackson.

[...]


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Numbers 35:22-27 (NIV)
 22 “‘But if without enmity someone suddenly pushes another or throws something at them unintentionally 23 or, without seeing them, drops on them a stone heavy enough to kill them, and they die, then since that other person was not an enemy and no harm was intended, 24 the assembly must judge between the accused and the avenger of blood according to these regulations. 25 The assembly must protect the one accused of murder from the avenger of blood and send the accused back to the city of refuge to which they fled. The accused must stay there until the death of the high priest, who was anointed with the holy oil.

 26 “‘But if the accused ever goes outside the limits of the city of refuge to which they fled 27 and the avenger of blood finds them outside the city, the avenger of blood may kill the accused without being guilty of murder.

The Avenger of blood was a family member of the deceased; applied to the hoax it would probably be the fan-mily, unless there's a whole drama waiting to be played out with one of the brothers wanting to "kill" Murray, lol.  I wouldn't be surprised in this movie of a hoax.

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Re: Doctor convicted in Jackson death seeks release

  • on: January 31, 2012, 03:54:45 PM
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Numbers 35:22-27 (NIV)

The Avenger of blood was a family member of the deceased; applied to the hoax it would probably be the fan-mily, unless there's a whole drama waiting to be played out with one of the brothers wanting to "kill" Murray, lol.  I wouldn't be surprised in this movie of a hoax.

http://ldolphin.org/avenger.html
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Cain, who murdered his brother Abel, deserved immediate punishment for his crime, if not immediate death. He feared not only God's justice, but more than God he feared vengeance from another member of his family. To our surprise we learn in Genesis 4 that God protected Cain for the rest of his life from such familial retribution! In spite of this amazing protection, and in spite of God's offer of help and salvation, Cain apparently never took advantage of this temporary reprieve---nor did any of his descendants as far as we know. The godly respondents to the grace of God before the Flood seem to have all been in the line of Seth which led eventually to Noah. That God is reluctant and slow to judge is a one of the main themes of the Lamentations of Jeremiah.A beautiful picture of God's longsuffering with mankind in ancient Israel is found in the provision by the Lord of six special Cities of Refuge where those who had killed someone, or were accused of killing another person, might flee for temporary safety. The fugitive could remain there until the death of the current high priest. Only those guilty of what we would call "murder in the second degree" were granted safe haven. Deliberate murder had to be punished by the death of the murderer. In this case the murderer was to be put to death by the "avenger of blood"---the nearest male relative of the deceased. (For details seeIn his fine study of the Cities of Refuge and related topics, Chuck Missler calls attention to the fact that the death of Jesus was in fact second degree murder. He bases this conclusion on one of the last words of Jesus on the cross, "Father forgive them for they know not what they do." (Luke 23:34) Thus Jesus is the Christian's City of Refuge---and Jesus is our Great High Priest, whose death releases us from the blood-guilt of sin.

This is an interesting study, also talks about Jesus, the avenger of blood in his second coming.

For Jermaine, Muslims, "Believers are one another's blood avengers for their blood spilt for the sake of Allah."  http://books.google.ca/books?id=xJY3AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA178&lpg=PA178&dq=avenger+of+blood,+islam&source=bl&ots=VuyR2B-gea&sig=hA9SMBIFsyIAINqjtRstQaABgIw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=SVMoT_vLD82ltweomMjaBA&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=avenger%20of%20blood%2C%20islam&f=false


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To me...I thought, "He is not a danger to society",
But,Is society a danger to HIM!!!  (Michael...get it??  Michael hurt no one, but was accused of pretty much being a danger to society.  But, it was society that was a danger to HIM)

NOTHING is fair in this life, and I mean nothing!  I believe it's set up that way, deliberately by God.


LoveShyMichael, thanks for sharing your son's situation, which must be hard. May God bless you and your family.

SimPattyK, thanks for following the ever-hoax-related House and Hugh Laurie for us. I feel it's likely MJ has put much clues of what's happening in there, and other movies etc. for that matter.
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