EDIT.. "ANONYMOUS" HACKS INTO "SONYS ENTIRE CATALOG ".....

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Offline BeTheChange

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@LoveShyMichael & BTC , I like how you think ! ;)

And I, Sim, LOVE how you think  ;)

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Speaking of 'Anonymous'...Paris had this pic posted about an hour ago as her profile pic on twitter.  She's since changed it...but there are some tweets that still show up with the pic.



Interesting...

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^^ Thanks for the info @BTC! so interesting!!
I wonder WHO really is nehind Anonymous!! smiley_spider

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Well, I was suspicious about the 'force' behind Anonymous....thanks Paris for giving me the confirmation I needed.

So, just yesterday, Wikileaks released 5 million pages of emails from the conservative intelligence 'think tank' Stratfor.  It has been suggested that 'Anonymous' was the hacker and provided Wikileaks with the documents.   ;D

Some have suggested that Michael may have been a part of a sting operation to expose corruption.  Could 'Anonymous' and 'Wikileaks' be providing the necessary cover story for the moment?

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The emails also expose the revolving door that operates in private intelligence companies in the United States. Government and diplomatic sources from around the world give Stratfor advance knowledge of global politics and events in exchange for money. The Global Intelligence Files exposes how Stratfor has recruited a global network of informants who are paid via Swiss banks accounts and pre-paid credit cards. Stratfor has a mix of covert and overt informants, which includes government employees, embassy staff and journalists around the world.

The material shows how a private intelligence agency works, and how they target individuals for their corporate and government clients. For example, Stratfor monitored and analysed the online activities of Bhopal activists, including the "Yes Men", for the US chemical giant Dow Chemical. The activists seek redress for the 1984 Dow Chemical/Union Carbide gas disaster in Bhopal, India. The disaster led to thousands of deaths, injuries in more than half a million people, and lasting environmental damage.

http://wikileaks.org/the-gifiles.html?nocache

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Hackers steal, under false pretenses.

Jones & Icke simply want what's in your wallet. They're full out predators. They've taken Science fiction to an entirely whole new level.
See, they don't believe that people read books anymore - I have books, and I know they're bloody damn liars. BUT - PARANOIA SELLS!
I'm sure they both studied psychology, and know how to get under people's skin, and then twist the proverbial knife.

There's no elite; no Illuminati. But what there is: people who are smart with their money, and good at convincing others what to do.

I've studied all this crap since I've been a teenager, and it doesn't matter who, or what you believe.
The world will be here tomorrow. As a child in the late 60s, I did the NUKE drills, hiding under desks once a month. Waiting for the day
to come - the day that never came!

FEAR sells, and FEAR is stupid. I toss the FEAR pie away, along with it's Satanic overtones, Illuminati crust, and Elitist filling.

Pie is pie.

The NWO does exist. On another post you talked about the like the blood lines of the elites with not wanting them to populate unless they had strong blood lines. You are absoutely correct. This is part of the NEW WORLD ORDER. The richest of the rich, elite of the elitest, the scummy of the scummiest. This is the agenda to de-population the "stupid ones", so the world, I'm not just talking the USA, I'm talking the elite globaist that control other countries all working together to control the world, desroy humanity, dumb people down thru vaccines, sterilize all babies from the very beginning, to continue to pump them full of vaccines that are full on steriliing agent so by the time that child reaches age to have kids, they won't be able to.

If your not a globalist elitest, your scum to them. They are the physoctic scientists trying to rule & ruin the world for their own selfishness. History books have been re-wrote ( Michael even said this) the things they teach in schools now are nothing but lies, they will force you to believe what they have re-wrote, don't ask questions, just accept what ever they tell you.

Bill Gates--IS THE BIGGEST FUNDER FOR THE DE-POPULATION OF THE WORLD WITH HIS VACCINE AGENDA!!
I have said in previous post.....on YOU TUBE.....Bill Gates can lower population by 15-20% by making vaccines mandatory. It's there.
I'm not going to post link for everything, if I heard something that gives me "the wow factor", I owe it to myself to check it out. If you choose not to then please don't tell me I'm just "blowing smoke up someones..." I'm giving you the resources to check it out, if you ignore it, then don't say it's not true.

Bill Gates ADMITS IT........that's not coming from me!

NWO is not for the GOOD, it never was intended for the GOOD!!

NWO is for the rich elite globalist, who want to control humanity on every level, want to get rid of the "dumb" ones, that they've intentionally dumbed down, want only bright rich Harvard IQ'S, the IQ of local police is just over 80-100, which use to be requirements of 125, which would also contriubute to the police brutality on cititizens, lower IQ'S, dumbed down police too, sick & sad. Elites are supressing all the natural resources, sure they get "clean vaccines", while others are being shot up with toxins. Elites are rich & feel they are untouchable. Elites have been around since 1900, not just the last 4 years. Elites DO NOT THINK like you or I, they are above any humanity. Elites are the SICKEST, SCUM MAGGOTS THAT WILL NOT STOP UNLESS WE AS PEOPLE SAY "NO" TO GIVING UP OUR FREEDOMS, QUIT BELIEVING THEIR LIES!!!

The terrorist are the ELITE GLOBALISTS!

@Tink...

I want to believe you sooooooo bad that the NWO doesn't exists......but I'm afraid it does. And by no means, was it ever intended for the GOOD, that's what George W. Bush said way back when, but of course he just lies, lies, lies, & sad as it is, most people believed he was trying to "keep us safe"....by our own government is our BIGGEST ENEMY! Those are the murderers!!
Please prove me wrong, I'd like to have my world back, free to share information, free of toxins in our foods & water, while the elites get their food & water brought to them free of the those toxins, because they "somehow deserve" better than US....bullshit!!!.......we all deserve to be treated like royality, not just the ones who can "PAY" THEIR WAY!!!!!


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My take on this is NWO excists and has been planned for decades and ongoing for decades.
Illuminati excists BUT is ONE name used for a group of people (HUMANS) from various backgrounds and religions and none religions.
Like a name for an organisation.

BUT there have been alot of science fiction ascosiated to this name (Illuminati) that they are aliens, eat humans, have extrodinary powers, are in contact with demons, are demons etc
This only for the main purpose to create FEAR in people AND to create so that when people say they believe in the illuminati or they know they excist people will think they are crazy.

When you can see through the deception and manipulations everything becomes clear.

Zionists = Israel = The ones who want to take the control over the world, when Israel (and God forbid it will ever happen) take over as the control/elite country of the world and according to some religious books the fake Messiah will take over for a while in Jerusalem that is when the New World Order aka ONE world Order will take place and will be in place.
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FYI - my bf has a horrid flu, and I've been healthy as can be. I've even teased him, when he walked out, paranoid about the shot from
the doctor's office last month. Now, he's been paying for it, for days!! I've been running errands, just felt sleepy for a day.

Making fun of people who don't believe like you do, is what bullies do. When everyone can sit down, present actual evidence? Then I'll listen.
But as far as I'm concerned - there's an awful lot of  respect/ that needs to be shown.

If your boyfriend got sick, it's because his immune system failed him. That same exact reason why people get cancer. Pumping your body full of toxins is NOT THE ANSWER!
Your boyfriend did the best thing, kudos to him....he wasn't poisoned with toxic wastes.

Tink if you continue to get your "toxic jabs" & you think they are doing you good, I sure hope later in your health life, you don't have some "unexplainable" pain, or get cancer, & then wonder what could've contriubuted to it. Just because some vaccines you don't see immediate damage does't mean it didn't damge.

That's why there is a vaccine damage payout...because they know it causes damage.
Try telling other people's family that have been damaged by vaccines or even death. Let THEM tell you their story of how their life has been affected. Maybe then you'd think differently.

I'm not a bully. I don't bully because you don't agree with me. I'm asking people to check out my "opinions, facts, lies" what ever you'd to call them, but everyone owes to themselves to check out a "opinion, fact, lie" if it we're to come from me or Michael Jackson.

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This probably isn't the right thread for this...but I wasn't sure where to post it since the topic of 'legal' drugs has come up in several threads.  It's a docu that I'm about halfway through watching and IMO, it sheds light on the very deep and dark rabbit hole of the pharma industry.  It's an hour and a half...but who knows?, it may be the hour and a half that saves a life....or at least, opens your eyes to see that 'they' don't care about us.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDlH9sV0lHU&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Hmmm....I wonder how many prison cells are currently holding 'criminals' on 'pot' charges alone. 

The hypocrisy is pathetic.

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David Icke and Alex Jones are not to be trusted.
 Do the research and digg deep.
Anyone who does not point the fingers squarely at Israel and Zionism is suspect.

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Zionists = Israel = The ones who want to take the control over the world, when Israel (and God forbid it will ever happen) take over as the control/elite country of the world and according to some religious books the fake Messiah will take over for a while in Jerusalem that is when the New World Order aka ONE world Order will take place and will be in place.
Now you’re talking!

BeTheChange, I'm torn on that topic.  http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=22185.msg390060#msg390060


Paula-c, I agree with you, but this twitter pic from Paris makes me really go hmm...  If true Michael is wading deep into enemy territory, and couldn't go on long if not backed with supernatural protection and authority, similar to Moses.  Jermaine describes MJ as Moses, and TS' emphasis on the Exodus story.

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My question is.... confused/..Why just the catalog of Mike ? bounce/ Mmmmmmmm.... ::P ;) ;)
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It's interesting to me that that the leader turned on his own operation and has been undercover for months. I also have the question....why just MJ songs from Sony?


http://news.yahoo.com/lulzsec-leader-turns-fellow-hacktivists-feds-160134846--abc-news.html

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LulzSec 'Leader' Turns on Fellow Hacktivists: Feds
ABC NewsBy RICHARD ESPOSITO, AARON KATERSKY and PIERRE THOMAS | ABC News – 9 hrs ago

       LulzSec 'Leader' Turns on Fellow Hacktivists: Feds (ABC News)Enlarge Photo

    LulzSec 'Leader' Turns on Fellow Hacktivists: Feds (ABC News)

Six members of the suspected computer hacking groups affiliated with Anonymous were charged -- including the suspected ring leader, who directed the entire operation from a Manhattan apartment complex -- after it was revealed one of the group's most high profile members has been working with federal authorities for months.

Hector Monsegur, a 28-year-old American believed to use the name "Sabu" on the internet, was arrested by federal agents last year and has been cooperating with law enforcement ever since, officials said. He pleaded guilty last August, a plea unsealed in federal court in Lower Manhattan today.

At least at least four of the five other members of the group were arrested recently based on information provided by Monsegur -- one in Chicago and three overseas, officials said. Each were charged with conspiracy and at least two will appear in federal court in Lower Manhattan later today.

Federal officials said they expect the arrests to seriously damage LulzSec, an underground group also known as Lulz Security, which is also an offset of the hacking group Anonymous.

Law enforcement sources told ABC News that the six people charged are allegedly among the most sophisticated hackers in the world. The FBI said motives for attacks varied -- for example an attack on credit card companies was based on the refusal by the firms to process contributions to the anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks, and another attack was simply a way of mocking internet security. The investigation began with a tip last June, officials said.

The group and Anonymous have taken credit for carrying out a number of high-profile hacking actions against companies and institutions including the CIA's website, Britain's Serious Organized Crime Agency, Japan's Sony Corp and Mexican government websites.

Last month, Anonymous published a recording of a confidential call between FBI agents and London detectives in which the law-enforcement agents discuss action they are taking against hacking.

READ: Anonymous Listens in on FBI-Scotland Yard Hacking Call

Anonymous also claimed to be behind the electronic theft of thousands of internal documents from the private intelligence analysis firm Stratfor. In charging documents released today, federal officials said that the charged co-conspirators had stolen credit card information from Stratfor employees and clients and made some $700,000 in unauthorized charges.

Earlier this week, a Twitter account connected to Sabu continued to rant against federal agents, supposedly while he was working with them.

"The federal government is run by a bunch of f*****g cowards. Don't give in to these people. Fight back. Stay strong," a tweet from Monday reads.

While Anonymous and LulzSec by nature have no official hierarchy, the user known as Sabu was one of the most vocal and prominent members in online communities. Fox News first reported Monsegur's alleged involvement with the today's arrests.

ABC News' Jason Ryan, Mark Crudele and Lee Ferran contributed to this report.
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It's interesting to me that that the leader turned on his own operation and has been undercover for months. I also have the question....why just MJ songs from Sony?


http://news.yahoo.com/lulzsec-leader-turns-fellow-hacktivists-feds-160134846--abc-news.html

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LulzSec 'Leader' Turns on Fellow Hacktivists: Feds
ABC NewsBy RICHARD ESPOSITO, AARON KATERSKY and PIERRE THOMAS | ABC News – 9 hrs ago

       LulzSec 'Leader' Turns on Fellow Hacktivists: Feds (ABC News)Enlarge Photo

    LulzSec 'Leader' Turns on Fellow Hacktivists: Feds (ABC News)

Six members of the suspected computer hacking groups affiliated with Anonymous were charged -- including the suspected ring leader, who directed the entire operation from a Manhattan apartment complex -- after it was revealed one of the group's most high profile members has been working with federal authorities for months.

Hector Monsegur, a 28-year-old American believed to use the name "Sabu" on the internet, was arrested by federal agents last year and has been cooperating with law enforcement ever since, officials said. He pleaded guilty last August, a plea unsealed in federal court in Lower Manhattan today.

At least at least four of the five other members of the group were arrested recently based on information provided by Monsegur -- one in Chicago and three overseas, officials said. Each were charged with conspiracy and at least two will appear in federal court in Lower Manhattan later today.

Federal officials said they expect the arrests to seriously damage LulzSec, an underground group also known as Lulz Security, which is also an offset of the hacking group Anonymous.

Law enforcement sources told ABC News that the six people charged are allegedly among the most sophisticated hackers in the world. The FBI said motives for attacks varied -- for example an attack on credit card companies was based on the refusal by the firms to process contributions to the anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks, and another attack was simply a way of mocking internet security. The investigation began with a tip last June, officials said.

The group and Anonymous have taken credit for carrying out a number of high-profile hacking actions against companies and institutions including the CIA's website, Britain's Serious Organized Crime Agency, Japan's Sony Corp and Mexican government websites.

Last month, Anonymous published a recording of a confidential call between FBI agents and London detectives in which the law-enforcement agents discuss action they are taking against hacking.

READ: Anonymous Listens in on FBI-Scotland Yard Hacking Call

Anonymous also claimed to be behind the electronic theft of thousands of internal documents from the private intelligence analysis firm Stratfor. In charging documents released today, federal officials said that the charged co-conspirators had stolen credit card information from Stratfor employees and clients and made some $700,000 in unauthorized charges.

Earlier this week, a Twitter account connected to Sabu continued to rant against federal agents, supposedly while he was working with them.

"The federal government is run by a bunch of f*****g cowards. Don't give in to these people. Fight back. Stay strong," a tweet from Monday reads.

While Anonymous and LulzSec by nature have no official hierarchy, the user known as Sabu was one of the most vocal and prominent members in online communities. Fox News first reported Monsegur's alleged involvement with the today's arrests.

ABC News' Jason Ryan, Mark Crudele and Lee Ferran contributed to this report.


It's not that odd that Sabu started to colaborate (if that's even true) since he was arrested last year and has many count.

Here is the official court file on Sabu: http://www.scribd.com/doc/84141558/Sabu-Court-Dox

What is hilarious is that FBI cares people to know that they have arrested a leader so their catch to look important  lolol/
The fact is the anonymous group has no leaders and the "members" are becoming more and more each day, and somehow I don't believe the authorities are in control of the situation.
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FYI - my bf has a horrid flu, and I've been healthy as can be. I've even teased him, when he walked out, paranoid about the shot from
the doctor's office last month. Now, he's been paying for it, for days!! I've been running errands, just felt sleepy for a day.

Making fun of people who don't believe like you do, is what bullies do. When everyone can sit down, present actual evidence? Then I'll listen.
But as far as I'm concerned - there's an awful lot of  respect/ that needs to be shown.

If your boyfriend got sick, it's because his immune system failed him. That same exact reason why people get cancer. Pumping your body full of toxins is NOT THE ANSWER!
Your boyfriend did the best thing, kudos to him....he wasn't poisoned with toxic wastes.

Tink if you continue to get your "toxic jabs" & you think they are doing you good, I sure hope later in your health life, you don't have some "unexplainable" pain, or get cancer, & then wonder what could've contriubuted to it. Just because some vaccines you don't see immediate damage does't mean it didn't damge.

That's why there is a vaccine damage payout...because they know it causes damage.
Try telling other people's family that have been damaged by vaccines or even death. Let THEM tell you their story of how their life has been affected. Maybe then you'd think differently.

I'm not a bully. I don't bully because you don't agree with me. I'm asking people to check out my "opinions, facts, lies" what ever you'd to call them, but everyone owes to themselves to check out a "opinion, fact, lie" if it we're to come from me or Michael Jackson.

Explain to me again, how I'm going to get "cancer," when I'm the only one in my family who came down with one of the TWO most deadly forms a woman can get, and beat it, 20 years ago? I just buried a family member from it, earlier this year... :-\

I may not be able to run Marathons, but I'm here intact, and I'm fine. Hiya!  bearhug

FYI - did you actually watch Bill Gates ENTIRE TED presentation of 27 minutes, or only the EDITED 4 minutes that's being handed around?
Also, there's a second talk, that's also important. I've watched BOTH, and here they are:

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/bill_gates.html

Here's where he talks about cutting childhood deaths IN HALF - and how he plans to cut them IN HALF again!!

http://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates_unplugged.html

If you watch the seminar, Bill Gates recognizes that the population is growing, heading to 9 billion. "If we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that perhaps 10-15%." Chicken Little, the sky is falling! Bill Gates is trying to kill us with vacccines! Here's the dose of rationalism- there's no sinister plot here, vaccines actually do help lower the birth rate of the population.

Whoa, vaccines help lower the population growth rate? YES. It sounds counter intuitive, because science, the last couple of centuries, and the current population are all solid evidence that vaccines lower mortality rates.

How do lower mortality rates slow the growth of the population? Lower mortality rates correlate to lower birth rates because they eliminate many of the risk factors that drive birth rates higher. Vaccinnes contribute to health, well being, and longevity- loosening the pressure of early procreation. Couples are waiting longer to conceive children as our expected life span allows us to first fulfill our educaional and career oriented goals.

Now, if you contine watching, you will realize the P variable is rising; Bill isn't trying to lower the population down to zero. Nor is he trying to lower the services they require, in fact; he acknowledges that the services are a very good thing, "Getting rid of poverty means providing these services to nearly everyone on the planet and it's a great thing for this number to go up."

So, in our equation, CO2= P x S x E x C, the only variables we have left to touch on (remember, one of these will have to be nearly zero to "innovate" our CO2 emissions down to zero), is the energy required for necessary services and the CO2 emissions from the energy required.

The whole purpose of Bill's seminar at TED is to address our current energy crisis, which you would know had you watched the actual seminar. This one has been debunked.

Now does it make sense?  bearhug
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@Tink...
You have your opinions & I will keep mine on Bill Gates. I'm aware of his agenda. If you feel otherwise he's a "good guy", so be it. Bill is a elite socialist with an agenda.  This guy in my opinion warrants no further discussion, his true colors of what he really stands for is known, some people just refuse to see it for what it is. BTW..........Ted Turner is also another elite socialist with an agenda, trust me, it doesn't include dumb down people, we're not in 'HIS CLASS OF ELITE".... US hard working class people are nothing but SCUM to their in-bread, social elite status....it's sickening!

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Also Tink............

Bill Gates............do some digging...........he's PURE EVIL!!! Don't be blinded by his kind gerous hand to help poverty. He can't stand US!!!!  We are not in this CLASS PERIOD!!!
He's the funder behind all this medical evil. He's not for world peace, he's the enemy. Evil like the devil, evil.



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I don't completely trust anyone with that kind of money and/or power to care about the dilemas of regular hard working people.  They know that we exist, but have not a clue what that existence consists of.  And for the most part, don't give a damn.
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And this is really interesting in MJMCommunity

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Here what the wife has written:

"Wife of one of these "hackers" wrote this:
"The press reported about my Husband is false! Its a case of them making up the parts they dont have yet, this is a stitch up from day one!"
"FACTS: 1. There never was and never has been any Hacking. 2. MJJC/Gaz are continuing to lie, he now has 3 stories of the situation!"
"FACTS: 3. The motivation behind the OPEN access to the servers was primarily to ensure the Cascio lies were stopped!"
"FACTS 4. No Access or downloading of any Previously unreleased, Unleaked or Unheard Michael Jackson song EVER happened....Cont"
"In fact those songs were taken and offered for sale to my husband and others, police are aware of these people but are not investigating! "

Her husband (known as Birchey) wrote on twitter before:
"Teddy Riley just lined the demo up behind his mix on Hollywood Tonight and then he "EQ'd" the high end out to create the bassline"
"thats why there is no character to it, it was a ridiculas thing to do, I have know idea why he didn't use original"
"I am guessing he didn't EQ the demo to get the bassline like Teddy did XD the original bass is killer!!!!!"
"Soon the TRUTH will be heard!!!!"
"Breaking News Demo, Before Teddy touched it, same vibrato....melodyne is a lie, Teddy LIED, the truth comes out within 6 months"
"if it leaks it not from me, i have no interest in that. but the truth will come"
"Back for bail 12th Sept, Me vs Sony Music, truth about the cascio tracks coming?"
"No they taking me to court, I am being accused of something I never did, scare tactics wont work, its ridiculas "
"Me to sony "Sony you're severs are open, thousands of people are getting music from them"............1 month later......servers still open"
"back on bail sept 12th, think they questioning me again, will be interesting to see what they say"
"well apparently my IP requested 49,000 downloads, guess the only 12 songs Sony listed on a printout? funny heh"
"an MJ impersonator mixed by someone impersonating a real producer................xD"
"dont worry bout me, its just smething i gotta go thru, its all bull, but in the end its all good "
"to be honest i currently have zero MJ stuff, its all sat in some crime lab somewhere gathering dust xD"
"that show was cringe worthy, a complete joke! they also happened to pick the most absurd mj fans to be on it, what an embarrassment"
"a massive Majority of the lead vocals are not Michaels
The breathing and other "aaahs" and stuff were pasted on
The songs were orginally slower in pace
The are NO claps, click or footstamps on ANY Cascio track on the vocal channel (something which to me proves this is definately not Michael behind that mic)
The songs were all recorded on various Mics
The original vocals themselves were NOT recorded badly but properly
There are tons of takes of vocals, there are several takes used on each line
There WERE backing tracks provided with the songs
There are MANY Ghost backing vocals
The only instance of a PVC Pipe being used was on about 4 lines in which they had "Michaels" vocals CLEAN and also recorded through a PVC pipe.

You don't want to know how I know
I cant and wont release any specific information but I have heard all 12 Cascio songs (Raw demos) and also seen pictures of the tracks being edited.

Certain people here can vouch for me, but a leak of certain material cant happen, at least not from me, but I feel fans need certain information, I know the songs, all of them are copy and paste cuts from at least 10 vocals each, and from viewing the waveforms of each vocal track used, there is nothing wrong with the recordings, and also no clips, claps and so on like Michael would do, the breathing and grunts have been pasted in between vocals, I just wanted to add my 2 cents.

there is breathing on them, but a majority has been pasted on, there are tracks named "MJGrunts_2" and so on, infact one song has a complete MJ beatbox intro made from 7 tracks of looped, copied and pasted MJ vocal tics.

For the vocals its clear on the editing how they have had a variety of vocal tracks to choose from, for me this points to a good explanantion, if you were to get someone to copy MJ why have them do one take? They have used the lines which fit Michaels vocals the best, the smoking gun here is the sheer amount of lead vocals and backing vocals they have.

I mentioned before there is breathing, but there is more which appear to have been put on top, not nescessarily breathing coming into a line, but more to do with little vocal ticks. The whole songs are a joke, I can tell you one song used 9 vocal tracks to complete ONE lead vocal, which tbh isn;t a big deal in a real studio situation but when we are told the vocals are one take its weird "


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Here is what I just read similar on imdb.com:

"Found out Info...Somehow 2 MJ fans got a link to hack the Sony Server...So they did...They went in specifically to get the Cascio tracks and expose them by leaking them to the Internet.

But what happened is they left a digital Fingerprint that led Sony to trace them back to the UK.

Now This happened last year...But the media are only reporting it now(Slooooooow). Sony are saying not just MJ's back Catalog has been copied but Other artists on the label too.

TBH i don't know if that's true about the whole catalog...These 2 fans have sworn all they wanted was the Cascio tracks....One of the fans wife posted that her Husband and his friend were being set up.

It's possible Sony is exaggerating the claims to nail them...But i suspect that these 2 fans are being used as Patsy's...I think maybe word got out that Sony's server was open and other more tech savvy thieves hacked in and stole...But the only Fingerprint left behind were the 2 MJ fans...Sony's Server was apparently open for almost a month before they detected the breach.

Now What's confusing for me is, Artists talk about Vaults to store their music...I always assumed actual Vaults...But if Sony's Catalog were on computer servers instead of say, external hard drives...Well that is incredibly stupid on Sony's part...Ya know what the Internet is like with viruses/hackers,

This shows Sony to be incredibly incompetent...This is not the first time they've been hacked...They were hacked a few months before...Something to do with the Playstation network.

Anyway, these 2 Fans are out on bail and i think the case is happening this year or next...But one of the Fans said they have information but they can't talk about it, but when it comes out in court...It will be the Truth...Especially the Cascio songs. "

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I was talking about Birchey and his friend. They got in Sony server around July/August and after that MJJC sever went down because it was confiscated by a warrant. The whole thing happened last year and Birchey tweets stopped about September, I think.
There are other 2 guys that were also arrested, I cannot recall their names I think the are James Marks and James McCormick not sure ( I am really bad with names), for the playstation thing.

But Sony got hacked again this year and I think they are trying to cover up this last one.
Sony was in financial trouble before Jun 25 2009, after the "event" Sony got a lot better in their business.

However we also have to remember that Michael's catalog was safe, because his catalog was not at Sony at this time. MJJac catalog was not there. Sony has the part it paid to the estate (250 million) and to Michael for and the songs he recorded at the time of Dangerous and Invincible albums...
I don't know too much about the MJ fans which got arrested, I heard he made a remix with Hollywood tonight and showed to someone on the internet, but not too much details.
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You have your opinions & I will keep mine on Bill Gates. I'm aware of his agenda. If you feel otherwise he's a "good guy", so be it. Bill is a elite socialist with an agenda.  This guy in my opinion warrants no further discussion, his true colors of what he really stands for is known, some people just refuse to see it for what it is. BTW..........Ted Turner is also another elite socialist with an agenda, trust me, it doesn't include dumb down people, we're not in 'HIS CLASS OF ELITE".... US hard working class people are nothing but SCUM to their in-bread, social elite status....it's sickening!

Do you know how Bill Gates started out?  ???/
Microsoft started in Bill Gates' garage. His high-school friend Paul Allen convinced him to drop out of Harvard to start the company. They moved to Arizona and wrote a BASIC programming language for Altair computers out of Bill's garage.

Following the launch of Altair 8800 Bill Gates had and idea and got together with Mirco Instrumentation and Telemetry Systems (MITS) and started Mircosoft in 1975. In 1981 they launched the first Windows.

To quote you again, It shows the power of US hard working class people!

Learn people's humble beginnings, and then you will comprehend what truly motivates them. With Bill Gates and Melinda, it's using their greatest gift: their minds, and using it for the betterment of all humankind!

Ted Turner: Took over his father's Bilboard company, after the tragic suicide. He was a visionary, who saw that for little money, he could invest in Radio stations.

In 1969, Turner made the switch from radio to TV, by purchasing a struggling station in Atlanta.  The channel ran old movies and sitcoms, as Turner knew that television viewers wanted more variety in their viewing options.  In 1973, WTCG (as it was known then) began broadcasting Atlanta Braves baseball games, and in 1976 the channel began being broadcast via cable satellites to homes across the country. This same year Turner bought the Braves as well as the Atlanta Hawks.  This broad cable viewership base helped the Braves become one of the most popular franchises in professional sports during their success in the 1990s.

In 1978, WTCG was rebranding as TBS for Turner Broadcasting System, and in 1980 he launched what is perhaps his most famous venture of all time: the Cable News Network, or CNN for short.  CNN revolutionized how viewers were able to get their information on current events.  Previously, it was customary to wait for the national network news to come on at around 6 o’clock in the evening, but with CNN, viewers were given access to breaking news 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Turner was known by many outside of television for his ownership of the Atlanta Braves, as well as the Atlanta Hawks.  He was also instrumental in bringing the Olympics to Atlanta in 1996, and revitalized Atlanta’s downtown with the construction of the CNN high rise headquarters. 

Turner also received a great deal of attention for his unprecedented $1 billion charitable gift to the United Nations in 1998.

I fail to see how either is "elitist" or "scum" when you can donate ONE BILLION DOLLARS in Charitable Gifts, to help the world!

BOTH put their money where their mouth is. Both try to help their fellow human beings on a GLOBAL SCALE, because that's the right thing to do.

Most wealthy people do things anonymously. Unfortunately, the information on the Internet can be manipulated, add some slick words, fancy images, and distort the truth, by cutting a few words out of a 27 minute video. I find it appalling that it's allowed to happen, all in the name of Entertainment.

I wouldn't call things on a whole, conspiracies - I'd call them plots with a purpose. Like stories. People doing startup companies; some succeed, some won't.

It's always about: Supply -> Demand. That's how the world WORKS. You find a niche, and you fill it. Some do it for good, some do it for bad.
Black & Proud! I'm like the Oracle/Batgirl, who helps Batman in the comic books. I believe in "Comic Book justice."


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Thorough research into the so-called 'UNited Nations' would be a good start in understanding what their, and their supporters, agenda is...and always has been, from inception.

Many, many powerful people began with humble beginnings....and ended up forgetting that.  Money, THE root of all evil, has a way of turning the best of 'them' into monsters.

Starting off in a garage doesn't automatically make anyone 'one of us'....unless by 'us', one means evil, ruthless, inhumane and willing to do anything to make a buck.  Thanks, but I think I'll pass on that membership.

'They don't care about us' should be THE anthem of the planet....it was/is meant for the 99%, not the 1%.

That 'snooze' button is wearing out...but, unfortunately, still operational.

With L.O.V.E. always.
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Billionaires ARE NOT on our level by any means. Their way of "helping" poverty, thru vaccines, & other medical evils, is what those rich ones want you to believe. Bill Gates, Ted Turner, & many other rich elites DO NOT THINK like you or I. To me they are just a bunch of in-bread socialist elites that want get rid of all the "dumb ones". I don't care if the world is over populated..........make room..........since when is it ok for those who have money to rule on someone else's life & whether or not they can be parents later in life, not be determined by vaccines with sterile agents in them. God can be that decider not a bunch of "rich ones" who are playing God by finding ways to de-popuilate because they have a different agenda.

It's not just them having money. It's them as elite's having power & control over US.....PERIOD!!!

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Ted Turner is a billionaire industrialist with five kids, 2 million acres of land and a network of business interests that combined must spew more carbon dioxide in a year than all the people reading this article put together in a lifetime could manage. And he is telling you to make sacrifices, to not have children, to sell your reproductive rights and be sterilized, to reduce your living standards, just like Al Gores flaps his gums about rising sea levels caused by global warming while purchasing oceanside property worth millions of dollars.

How much more evidence will it take for people to accept the fact that overpopulation is a myth and that it has been hijacked by global warming alarmists who are now using it as a replacement for the discredited science of man-made climate change in order to build their new world order, which is based entirely around squeezing the middle class and making people more dependent on big government, thereby becoming the architects of their own enslavement and being forced to crawl cap-in-hand to the likes of Uncle Ted and beg for a dime.


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Just months after a leaked UN blueprint that revealed climate change alarmists would start pushing “overpopulation” fears in favor of the discredited mantra of global warming as a means of dismantling the middle class, billionaire globalist Ted Turner followed suit during a Cancun luncheon yesterday when he urged the world to adopt China’s brutal one-child policy, and even suggested poor people should be sterilized in return for government handouts.

“Mr. Turner – a long-time advocate of population control – said the environmental stress on the Earth requires radical solutions, suggesting countries should follow China’s lead in instituting a one-child policy to reduce global population over time. He added that fertility rights could be sold so that poor people could profit from their decision not to reproduce,” reports the Globe and Mail.

The secret behind Turner’s call for western nations to enforce a tyrannical policy that in China is administered by undercover police and “family planning” authorities who kidnap, force drug and then forcibly abort babies of pregnant women, has nothing whatsoever to do with his concern for the environment.

In the third world, Turner has contributed literally billions to population reduction, namely through United Nations programs, leading the way for the likes of Bill & Melinda Gates and Warren Buffet (Gates’ father has long been a leading board member of Planned Parenthood and a top eugenicist). Gates himself has given speeches in which he promotes the use of vaccines and abortion as a means of reducing global population and lowering CO2 emissions.

Quite how an improvement in health care through vaccines that supposedly save lives would lead to a lowering in global population is an oxymoron, unless Gates was referring to vaccines that sterilize people, which is precisely the same method advocated in White House science advisor John P. Holdren’s 1977 textbook Ecoscience, which calls for a dictatorial “planetary regime” to enforce draconian measures of population reduction via all manner of oppressive techniques, including sterilization.

This is what Gates and Turner discussed when they met in secret with the likes of George Soros and David Rockefeller at a private gathering of billionaires in Manhattan last year, a confab focused around how these globalists could use their wealth to “slow the growth of the world’s population.”

Overpopulation is a myth. The UN’s own figures clearly indicate that population is set to stabilize in 2020 and then drop dramatically after 2050. As the Economist reported, “Fertility is falling and families are shrinking in places— such as Brazil, Indonesia, and even parts of India—that people think of as teeming with children. As our briefing shows, the fertility rate of half the world is now 2.1 or less—the magic number that is consistent with a stable population and is usually called “the replacement rate of fertility”. Sometime between 2020 and 2050 the world’s fertility rate will fall below the global replacement rate.”

To emphasize, not only do the numbers clearly indicate that overpopulation is a contrived scare, but the scaremongers themselves have been caught admitting that they are fanning the fears in order to reduce living standards in the west and consequently set in motion a “global redistribution of wealth.”

And don’t for a second be fooled into thinking that this so-called “global redistribution of wealth” will manifest some kind of socialist utopia. As was uncovered during the Copenhagen summit, the program of “global redistribution of wealth” largely centers around looting the wealth of the middle classes in richer countries through carbon taxes and then using that money to bankroll the construction of world government. As the leaked “Danish text” revealed, the money generated from consumption taxes will go directly to the World Bank, not to developing countries.

Let me emphasize again, even if you believe the claptrap circulated about overpopulation, the men being empowered to “solve the problem” have stated that their primary goal is to kill 95 per cent of humanity while destroying prosperity and economic freedom in the west, as well as ensuring that the third world remains in mountains of debt to the World Bank and IMF.


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@Tink....
Here's more on the "good guy" Bill Gates....

Bill Gates, Monsanto, and eugenics: How one of the world's wealthiest men is actively promoting a corporate takeover of global agriculture
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 by: Ethan A. Huff, staff writer

NaturalNews) After it was exposed that the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the philanthropic brainchild of Microsoft founder Bill Gates, purchased 500,000 shares in Monsanto back in 2010 valued at more than $23 million, it became abundantly clear that this so-called benevolent charity is up to something other than eradicating disease and feeding the world's poor (http://www.guardian.co.uk). It turns out that the Gates family legacy has long been one of trying to dominate and control the world's systems, including in the areas of technology, medicine, and now agriculture.

The Gates Foundation, aka the tax-exempt Gates Family Trust, is currently in the process of spending billions of dollars in the name of humanitarianism to establish a global food monopoly dominated by genetically-modified (GM) crops and seeds. And based on the Gates family's history of involvement in world affairs, it appears that one of its main goals besides simply establishing corporate control of the world's food supply is to reduce the world's population by a significant amount in the process.


William H. Gates Sr., former head of eugenics group Planned Parenthood
Bill Gates' father, William H. Gates Sr., has long been involved with the eugenics group Planned Parenthood, a rebranded organization birthed out of the American Eugenics Society. In a 2003 interview with PBS' Bill Moyers, Bill Gates admitted that his father used to be the head of Planned Parenthood, which was founded on the concept that most human beings are just "reckless breeders" and "human weeds" in need of culling (http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_gates.html).

Gates also admitted during the interview that his family's involvement in reproductive issues throughout the years has been extensive, referencing his own prior adherence to the beliefs of eugenicist Thomas Robert Malthus, who believed that populations of the world need to be controlled through reproductive restrictions. Though Gates claims he now holds a different view, it appears as though his foundation's initiatives are just a modified Malthusian approach that much more discreetly reduces populations through vaccines and GMOs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Robert_Malthus).


Gates Foundation has invested heavily in converting Asian, African agricultural systems to GMOs
William Gates Sr.'s association with Planned Parenthood and continued influence in the realm of "population and reproductive health" is significant because Gates Sr. is co-chair of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (http://www.gatesfoundation.org/leadership/Pages/william-gates-sr.aspx). This long-time eugenicist "guides the vision and strategic direction" of the Gates Foundation, which is currently heavily focused on forcing GMOs on Africa via its financing of the Alliance for a Green Revolution in Africa (AGRA).

The Gates Foundation has admittedly given at least $264.5 million in grant commitments to AGRA (www.gatesfoundation.org/about/Documents/BMGFFactSheet.pdf), and also reportedly hired Dr. Robert Horsch, a former Monsanto executive for 25 years who developed Roundup, to head up AGRA back in 2006. According to a report published in La Via Campesina back in 2010, 70 percent of AGRA's grantees in Kenya work directly with Monsanto, and nearly 80 percent of the Gates Foundation funding is devoted to biotechnology (http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_21606.cfm).

The same report explains that the Gates Foundation pledged $880 million in April 2010 to create the Global Agriculture and Food Security Program (GAFSP), which is a heavy promoter of GMOs. GAFSP, of course, was responsible for providing $35 million in "aid" to earthquake-shattered Haiti to be used for implementing GMO agricultural systems and technologies.

Back in 2003, the Gates Foundation invested $25 million in "GM (genetically modified) research to develop vitamin and protein-enriched seeds for the world's poor," a move that many international charities and farmers groups vehemently opposed (http://healthfreedoms.org). And in 2008, the Gates Foundation awarded $26.8 million to Cornell University to research GM wheat, which is the next major food crop in the crosshairs of Monsanto's GM food crop pipeline (http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_21606.cfm).


If you control agriculture, you control the populations of the world
The Gates Foundation's ties with Monsanto and corporate agriculture in general speak volumes about its real agenda, which is to create a monopolistic system of world control in every area of human life. Vaccines, pharmaceuticals, GMOs, reproductive control, weather manipulation, global warming -- these and many other points of entry are the means by which the Gates Foundation is making great strides to control the world by pretending to help improve and save it.

Rather than promote real food sovereignty and address the underlying political and economic issues that breed poverty, Gates and Co. has instead embraced the promotion of corporately-owned and controlled agriculture and medicine paradigms that will only further enslave the world's most impoverished. It is abundantly evident that GMOs have ravished already-impoverished people groups by destroying their native agricultural systems, as has been seen in India (http://www.naturalnews.com/030913_Monsanto_suicides.html).

Some may say Gates' endeavors are all about the money, while others may say they are about power and control. Perhaps it is a combination of both, where Gates is still in the business of promoting his own commercial investments, which includes buying shares in Monsanto while simultaneously investing in programs to promote Monsanto.

Whatever the case may be, there is simply no denying that Gates now has a direct interest in seeing Monsanto succeed in spreading GMOs around the world. And since Gates is openly facilitating Monsanto's growth into new markets through his "humanitarian" efforts, it is clear that the Gates family is in bed with Monsanto.

"Although Bill Gates might try to say that the Foundation is not linked to his business, all it proves is the opposite: most of their donations end up favoring the commercial investments of the tycoon, not really "donating" anything, but instead of paying taxes to state coffers, he invests his profits in where it is favorable to him economically, including propaganda from their supposed good intentions," wrote Silvia Ribeiro in the Mexican news source La Jornada back in 2010.

"On the contrary, their 'donations' finance projects as destructive as geoengineering or replacement of natural community medicines for high-tech patented medicines in the poorest areas of the world ... Gates is also engaged in trying to destroy rural farming worldwide, mainly through the 'Alliance for a Green Revolution in Africa' (AGRA). It works as a Trojan horse to deprive poor African farmers of their traditional seeds, replacing them with the seeds of their companies first, finally by genetically modified (GM)."

Sources for this article include:

http://www.guardian.co.uk

http://www.seattleglobaljustice.org

http://english.pravda.ru

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_21606.cfm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Eugenics_Society

http://www.naturalnews.com/033148_seed_companies_Monsanto.html

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George Bush Senior and Bill Gates were arrested last week for sabotaging the new financial system after being fingered by Timothy Geithner, pentagon sources say.

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What is puzzling to me is that the country, the world, is preaching that the economy is in dire straits YET, everyday the lottery pays out millions and millions of dollars and more people are becoming millionaires by that process and the game show/reality tv industry.  Not to mention these mega million sports and entertainment contracts.  Geez.  What’s the meaning of this?  It’s like a catch-22.  Somebody is lying!  What is the hidden agenda?   WTF??
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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