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@bindupbrokenhearted: In the spirit of continuing to discuss this in love, this is how I see it: to observe/remember the Sabbath is to show your loyalty to the creator, loyalty to his timetable as opposed to the timetable of the world; to have him as ultimate authority, not your house/money/job/anyone or anything else as the determinant factor to your decision-making. What does his word tell me to do VS. What does my bank account say I can do. Enter the rich man (Mark 10:17-31): he didn't murder, he didn't covet, he didn't steal, he didn't commit adultery, he didn't give false testimony, he didn't defraud anyone, he honored his parents, but he had his material possessions sitting on the throne instead of YHWH. He didn't want to give up his "richness", he saw that as a loss and walked away feeling"grieved" even though Yeshua told him that in doing so he would have treasure in heaven in its place. Treasure in heaven does not spoil; treasure on earth deteriorates (Matthew 6:19). The spiritual things are definitely more valuable. I think the Sabbath is a small test of loyalty in comparison to some of the examples in the scriptures. The characters/historical figures that showed the most loyalty in these biblical accounts would willingly risk/embrace death, give up their most precious possessions, or give up their elevated status in society in order to follow the Father's will, to avoid compromising what YHWH/Yeshua has commanded them to do. I'm seeing this parallel with Michael's hoax (from the top of my head: Julien's auction getting rid of material possessions, leaving inheritance for your children (Proverbs 13:22), utilizing your opulence to care for his flock [charity], in the case that he is not living with his children at the moment, then he is giving up family for the sake of spreading the gospel [Matthew 19:29]). Whether he actually did or not, whether it's just for the "movie" or not, I don't know, but the information we're getting is in line with the scriptural examples. I don't know about the Sabbath though, lol. Regardless, I still see it as a test of loyalty.@jono: the alternate perspective is that the Spirit enables you to walk like Yeshua as opposed to our own effort; no one can be perfect without him."perspectives", lol. Reminds me of V for Vanquish.
1At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn and to eat. 2But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day. 3But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him; 4How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests? 5Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless? 6But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple. 7But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless. 8For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day. 9And when he was departed thence, he went into their synagogue: 10And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him. 11And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out? 12How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days. 13Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other. 14Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him.
[...]SimPattyK, wonderful collage of MJ and rainbows! Wow! The link also has so much! Just adding about the two pillars that Michael in Captain EO stands between, is like the 2 pillars of Solomon’s temple named Jachin and Boaz, and also like the story of super-strong Samson taking down the enemy by pushing on the two supporting pillars and making the building collapse. Sim, do you realize that because we are finding how absolutely vast this rabbit hole is becoming and how we are probably only scratching the surface, you could be gathering enough collages for a thick hard-cover book! OMG! [...]
@bindupbrokenhearted: Ah yes, I share that view. What I had in mind when I mentioned risking/embracing death was more of a "risking one's own comfort", being completely self-less, unconcerned about your own life if it came down to surviving or obeying YHWH. I do think believers should follow Yeshua's example in the case of emergencies when others' lives are at stake. Walking in the Spirit of the law takes precedence for sure.@RK: the video sounds promising already, lol.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login"God said, 'Here is the sign of the Covenant I make between myself and you and every living creature with you for all generations: I set my rainbow in the clouds and it shall be a sign of the Covenant between me and the earth." (Genesis 9:12-13)"When I gather the clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will recall the Covenant between myself and you and every living creature of every kind. And so the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all things of flesh." (Genesis 9:14-15)."When the rainbow is in the clouds I shall see it and call to mind the everlasting Covenant between God and every living creature of every kind that is found on the earth." (Genesis 9:16).
When the sign of God is manifested on earth, it shall be accompanied by a rainbow. The Spirit of God, when it descended visibly out of the heavens before the gaze of the prophet Ezekiel came wrapped in the following aura:"Above the vault over their heads was something that looked like a sapphire; it was shaped like a throne and high up on this throne was a being that looked like a man. I saw him shine like bronze, and close to and all around him from what seemed his loins upwards was what looked like fire; and from what seemed his loins downwards I saw what looked like fire, and a light all round like a rainbow in the clouds on rainy days; that is how the surrounding light appeared.. It was something that looked like the glory of God. I looked, and prostrated myself, and I heard the voice of one speaking." (Ez.1:26-28).The time of distress, described above, has already started, so that rainbow is not far away. The symbolism of the relationship between the rainbow and God's everlasting Covenant continues from one end of scripture to the other. Here are two quotations from the Book of Revelation:"And then in my vision, I saw a door open in heaven and heard the same voice speaking to me, the voice like a trumpet, saying, 'Come up here: I will show you what is to come in the future'. With that, the Spirit possessed me and I saw a throne standing in heaven, and the One who was sitting on the throne. The Person sitting there looked like a diamond and a ruby. There was a rainbow encircling the throne, and this had the resemblance of an emerald." (Rev.4:1-3)."Then I saw another powerful angel coming down from heaven, wrapped in a cloud, with a rainbow over his head; his face was like the sun, and his legs were pillars of fire." (Rev.10:1).
Melody, you did clarify what I stated in my post. That is exactly the point: Jesus wants us to keep the spirit of the law through faith and not by our works as others have said. Jesus also made it known that now everyday should be as a "Sabbath Day" as we should know God and be grateful to Him for His creations and sending us Jesus as our salvation. But, much of your post is where Mjonmind's point comes in: much of the Bible including the Mosaic Law, was directed at the Israelites; not us. God's New Covenant is ours to follow. Souza, I respect your studies and I mysef have studied Sabbath and therefore have drawn my own conclusion. I am fully aware Saturday is the seventh day, but it doesn't matter anymore anyway. You do realize if we are to keep the Mosaic Law to be saved; we would also still have to sacrifice animals at an altar for Jehovah God aswell. We do not need to sacrifice anything because Jesus was that ultimate sacrifice. The reason why the *Israelites* (not us) had to obey the Law, was because they were God's chosen people and were delivered out of Egypt by HIM. The Mosaic Law also didn't allow for sins to be forgiven; under the New Covenant we are forgiven and the difference between then and now is again: because of Jesus' death we are able to be forgiven and ultimately saved. Another example of the Law ending for Christians is at Romans 10:4: "Christ is the end of the Law, so that everyone exercising faith may have righteousness." Remember, Sabbath keeping was apart of that Law. God used Christ to bring that Law to it's end. Our having a righteous stand with God depends on faith in Christ, not keeping Sabbath. Also see: Galatians 4:9-11; Ephesians 2:13-16; Col 2:13-16. Now of course we are not to murder, steal, worship other gods etc., lol. This is where common sense comes in, along with what Jesus told us to do. If we are to "love our neighbor as ourself", we would not kill them; just as if we accept God and Jesus Christ as savior, we are not to worship false gods.
