TIAI January 21

[paula-c]

The Ark of the Covenant and Ron Wyatt
By: Julian Cano Rave

Before entering the discussion on archaeological disputes and Ron Wyatt, it is important to mention that Ron was a faithful Christian, the seventh-day Adventist until the final day of his days. While on deathbed, a reporter for You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login (worldNetDailyNews) interviewed him to determine if Ron still on the brink of death claimed his allegations about his discoveries, including the arc of the Covenant. Ron response was clear. Ron maintained that everything that was said and done it was true.

When I interviewed him in WAPA Radio a few years ago I told him to pesonalmente to Ron and listened them to the interview by radio that if the he was lying, I would not be in their shoes, because the information given by Ron so questioned or complete harmony with the sky if it was true or in direct confrontation, if it was a lie. The impression I received that day, days and years, and I give testimony to that, was that Ron was a very honest, God-fearing, eager to do the will of God and that his main reason for sharing with the public their knowledge and findings, was the motivating a profound study of the word of God, and accept Jesus Christ as Savior. Ron also explained that none of the discoveries were required to substantiate their faith or the other, but understood that there were people who were going to get to the feet of God through these discoveries and for this reason the shared them.

Although I was that some will not believe or will doubt the following words, meeting necessary to know what Ron told me personally and to present fellow when I interviewed him in my house: Ron explained that in one of the occasions when the came to the cave where he was the Ark of the Covenant and the 10 commandments written with the finger of Godan Angel told him that when United States declares federal Sunday law, sometime later, the Lord will make the tables of the law so that they are a testimony to the whole world that his holy law has not been changed and remains forever, and that the fourth commandment, which talks about the day of the Lord, the Holy Saturday, seventh day of the week, is as alive today as from the beginning

Finally, Ron never claimed that it was an archaeologist, we all knew that it was an anesthesiologist nurse who had worked for many decades to Biblical archaeology which gained a vast experience. It is fully aware also that many discoveries have not been by archaeologists or by specialists in the field. It has often been by chance or by explorers. It is important to also clarify the reasons that my they personally motivated me to investigate deeply and with much detail allegations of Ron Wyatt.

First, many years ago, when he was only 18 years old a friend sold me a diagram or prophetic table prepared by Gordon Collier. In the bottom right of the diagram, were several quotations from E.G. White concerning the discovery of the 10 Commandments in the future. This awoke in my great interest on this topic and since then started the investigation, but not with so much interest as in later years. A few years later I visited the White Estate in Washington D.C., where once again I was in contact with information related to this topic. I was impressed so much that in documents that will delivered me there, E.G. White citations were interpreted slightly different from what they actually said. When Ron came to Puerto Rico, I must confess that even watching the videos and listen to lectures, it was not easy to convince me.

What was what convinced me rum? Ron convinced me that I had to investigate more deeply, especially the word of God, history and everything that had been investigated by archaeologists, explorers, etc. on four topics on which has primarily focused my interest and research: the Ark of the Covenant, the ten commandments, Mount Sinai and the Red sea crossing. For several months (now took several years) then I started to investigate allegations of Ron, his critics, disputes the allegations against him in his person and his "discoveries". What I found motivated me to invite you to Puerto Rico, to interview him on the radio program the Bible and also challenging it with several friends at the cottage where Ron was for several days.

Already many years have passed and research on these issues have continued, as in the "discoveries" of rum have come to call themselves as "deception", "fraud" or the "illusions" of a sincere, but extremely wrong man. In many Christian circles where Ron was invited, now they do not identify with him and or siquieren want to know that Ron was invited to his congregation. Apparently, many have shame
and they don't want to be identified with him. However, there are many who after having investigated in depth have to be strengthened and further investigate. I'm one of them. Without a spirit of controversy, and considering I only as a student
in the Bible, invite all those who read these articles to keep the
Similarly, avoid prejudice and keep an open mind and
objective. The fact that the world's archaeological experts re-
chacen discoveries of Ron and some even call you
charlatan, they do not represent for my no basis to reject,
investigate or not to listen. After all with Christ made it
same.

Dr. William Shea of the Institute of research Bible of the Confe-
Seventh-day Adventist General Conference expressed in a
during the following about Ron Wyatt: "Ron is an SDA (seventh-day Adventist)"
(from the seventh-day), anesthesiologist nurse in Nashville, TN, with a
great interest in several projects arqueologóciso in the Middle East.
Some of these projects have some validity and other not-could-
necessarily have basis to support them. Therefore, each
"their projects need be judged on its own merits"
In my case (Julian Cano), this is exactly what I did. However, Dr. Shea, he gave more credit to the discovery
of the Ark of Noah, while the Ark of the Covenant, the crossing of the Red Sea and Sinai, etc., found no reason or basis to giving any merit or credibility. Moreover, as for other alleged boast-
brimiento and particularly the Ark of the Covenant, Dr. Shea said: "I do not see any basis in the Bible, the spirit of prophecy or the biblical typology for such a theory". It is this particularly where I and Dr. Shea differ significantly.
None of which we met and interviewed several times on the radio program and on other occasions, Ron Wyatt can say with certainty that Ron discovered this or that. However, although we are not archaeologists, under the deep research of scientific, archaeological sources and mass media, have discovered evidence that give credibility to the allegations of Mr Wyatt, reconocimiendo at the same time as many experts/archaeologists did not give any credibility. When we look at the findings of the crossing of the Red Sea, Mount Sinai and more particularly the Ark of the Covenant, under the biblical evidence, did find a sound basis the spirit of prophecy and typology. This evidence is that we
It mainly encourages continued research, discussion and analysis
of all the biblical information. This analysis includes the scientific evidence on both sides of the dispute.

Curious and important are our findings of evidence of specialists in the areas of archaeology-scientific objective, which does not recognize the traditional sites of Mount Sinai, the crossing of the Red Sea and place of the crucifixion of Christ as truthful because they lack objective archaeological evidence and is often based on legends.
One of the biggest controversies related to Biblical archaeology broke out when Mr. Ron Wyatt, amateur archaeologist, said that the he had discovered the Ark of the Covenant, the tables of the 10 commandments, other objects related to the temple and the place of the crucifixion. These findings of course have great significance for Christians and it would be the most important finds in Biblical archaeology. In relation to the Covenant Ark or Ark of the testimony, Mr. Wyatt stated that he found in a cave below the place where Christ was crucified within a stone whose door was open and heading box. According to Wyatt the blood of Christ was found on top of the bringer ("Mercy Seat").
Once again without spirit of dogmatism or dispute, we are asking the public to analyze the biblical and typological arguments and for those who know and believe in the writings of E.G. White, carefully analyze their statements in light of the Holy Scriptures.
As a result of the publication of the book in English: "Holy Relics or Revelation" by Russell and Colin Standish of Hartland, the Bible Ministry has published a response by the document entitled: Revelation or Holy Relics. The comments and findings have been published primarily in English, while some things we have released them in Spanish. Are you same judges.

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Original text in spanish

[ovelias]

hi all haw are you. i am reading this chapter and i dont aderstand why all are afraid that the end is caming. is not the end is a new begining for human nation.
21/12/2012 is anly a day were 1000 years of one raound of the san is end and is begining a new one. 
i just believe that like i believe in ather things.
i dont now why bat i believe that.
the end is near yes bad no one now the exact day.
GOD SAIDS:I WILL CAME LIKE THE THIVE IN THE NIGHT
SOW dont wayst  your time in minless thoughts that make you sad.
thing that life is fool of saprises.
GIVE all the love you all have in your hard in your lovesones, in your nayboors give a smile in strangers. look around you the sun is raising the birds are singing the most butiful song ever for you. the flowers are gave to you ther owsom parfum only for you.
WITH ALL MY LOVE TO YOU ALL
KISSES  )

[applehead250609]

For those struggling with the commandment about God not wanting idols, I was reminded of the blog post Kelly Clarkson posted shortly after Amy Winehouse's death. And it sort of puts a different perspective on it so I thought i'd share:

"I heard the news about Amy Winehouse. I'm incredibly sad. I didn't know her but I met her a few times and got to hear her sing before she blew up. She was a beautiful and talented girl. I'm angry. What a waste of a gifted person. What a shame she saw no hope and continued living her life in that manor. I have been that low emotionally and mentally and that is overwhelming. I keep asking myself why some of us are spared and the others are made examples. I'm very angry and sad. I don't know why it's bothering me so much. Sometimes I think this job will be the death of us all, or at least the emotional death of us all. Maybe that is why as a little kid in sunday school I learned that God didn't want false gods or idols. I thought it was terribly selfish of God as a child but I think I get it now. He didn't want us following people or things that are imperfect and not so much for the followers but for the gods and/or idols who will never be what everyone wishes or needs them to be because we are made imperfect. He knew we wouldn't be able to handle the pressure, the shame, the glory, or the power the spotlight brings. I am distraught. I am also extremely grateful and thankful for the people who love me and support me. Without such amazing friends and family who knows where I'd be. My thoughts and prayers are with her friends and family. I am so sorry for your loss. I pray for peace in your hearts."

WOW ,just wow,thank you very much for this  bearhug ,I remember I had read somewere Kelly's words regarding Amy.Seeing this again made me understand many things and how The True Story Is Almost Never Told,cause the OPPOSITE is always easier to "digest".This is sad,really sad .

[PureLove]

Sarahli and diggyon - I for one am VERY interested in learning about the Quran. I remember a post about the number 7 in Quran but I would not be able to find it again.
I would also like to learn about the Torah and Jewish scriptures if we have someone here who could tell us about it. The more we know about each other and each other's cultural history, the more we can understand each other in our differences and our common elements.
Understanding is the basis for tolerance and tolerance is the basis for peace.
In the end, it does not matter which colour or belief we have.
The answer is love and love is understood in every language and culture and that's GREAT.

I would like to encourage you to start a thread about your findings in Quran.

Hey guys. I'm a Muslim so maybe I can help you about Quran. 7 is an important number in Quran too because it says that God created the sky with 7 layers, and the universe was created in 7 days. 7 is a very divine number in Quran too.

[AKHTONI]

Sarahli and diggyon - I for one am VERY interested in learning about the Quran. I remember a post about the number 7 in Quran but I would not be able to find it again.
I would also like to learn about the Torah and Jewish scriptures if we have someone here who could tell us about it. The more we know about each other and each other's cultural history, the more we can understand each other in our differences and our common elements.
Understanding is the basis for tolerance and tolerance is the basis for peace.
In the end, it does not matter which colour or belief we have.
The answer is love and love is understood in every language and culture and that's GREAT.

I would like to encourage you to start a thread about your findings in Quran.

Hey guys. I'm a Muslim so maybe I can help you about Quran. 7 is an important number in Quran too because it says that God created the sky with 7 layers, and the universe was created in 7 days. 7 is a very divine number in Quran too.

and there are 7 heavens too, jesus is mointioned 25 times in the holy Quran (2+5=7), muslims Circumambulate around the Kaaba 7 times too and stoning the devil:On the 10th day of Dhu al-Hijjah (Eid al-Adha), pilgrims must hit the large jamrah only with 7 pebbles. On each of the following two days they must hit each of the three walls with 7 pebbles, going in order from east to west.

[Sarahli]

I have posted in the other forum but I post it here too in case some people do not check both forums. I have found interesting information about the Ark; quoting some parts from this website: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

Recently, mathematician Vic Showell produced substantial evidence that the universe’s most important mathematical constants Pi and PHI, and every geometric structure in nature, contains at its core only nine fundamental musical notes or frequencies of sound and light in which 528Hz is central.

Additionally, this frequency, 528Hz, has been advanced by this author to be the “key to the house of David” (Isaiah 22:22; Rev. 3:7). It exclusively exists at the heart of the electromagnetic sound and light spectrums. It is the heart of the rainbow (light green in color) said to be spinning like a vortex of energy in the middle of your chest—the heart (chakra). This color, greenish-yellow, is the primary pigment in the botanical world.

Now an ark, or arc, is shaped like a rainbow—like a slice or section of a perfect circle. Given sound and light are both mathematical wave forms, fundamentally frequency vibrations, the light of any rainbow, or sound of a drum shaped like an arc, shares mathematical constants including 528Hz, the sound of LOVE.

Said another way, if you draw an arc, then a straight line connecting each end, you have created a drum-like image or hull-like design from Noah’s Ark.

The Ark of the Covenant held the spiritual power of eternal life for souls drifting aimlessly in jeopardy. The Ark of Noah, likewise, provided a safe haven for long term salvation.

What is a Covenant? It is a contract--an agreement between two parties; in this case the Creator and you, or any individual within the human family.
What are the terms of this Contract or Covenant? Very simply, IF you give your Faith over to God, then you may call upon the King of the Universe at any time using prayer, or heart-felt loving intention, to remedy any troubling situation.
Now where in your “holy temple” do you feel Faith? Most certainly, in your heart.

The Arc is the musical-mathematical model or design that administers this experiment using the mathematical constants Pi, PHI, the Fibonacci Series and the Golden Mean. This entire experiment is fueled exclusively by what’s inside the Ark, the chest, the heart—the Holy Spirit of energetic perfection.
This Apocalypic vision, or “unveiling,” recognizes this true meaning of the Ark of the Covenant, and its fundamental musical-mathematical “contract” between Creator and created..

To be most secure in this agreement, you must learn to float with faith, zero fear, on the “Creative Juice”—the Living Water—in an ark built for safe transit.

The term “Apocalypse” actually means: “lifting of the veil.”

As stated in the New Jerusalem Bible, from the “Introduction to The Revelations of John,” the Greek “title of this book is literally, ‘The Apocalypse of John' or 'The Revelation of John'.: So the Apocalypse, or unveiling, is actually very beneficial, particularly spiritually, for those with “ears” to hear, or “eyes” to see, a Divine calling or destiny.
If “the truth shall set you free,” the greatest secreted truths hold the capacity to emancipate you completely. To be all that you can be, especially spiritually, you need to tune into the One Unifying Truth. This relates intimately to the term Apocalypse and the Ark of the Covenant. Their true meanings and functions are optimally freeing.

The word Lucifer is defined as “the morning star, a fallen rebel archangel, the Devil.” In Christian theology, Lucifer is known to be God’s chosen angel charged with administering music and the light of the morning star, the Sun. What a powerful position controlling the energies or frequencies of sound and light governing the earthly plane! No wonder “Babylon has fallen!”
Clearly, the secret of Lucifer’s power lies in the creative technology of sound and light advanced by God which has remained secret prior to this Apocalypse.

This Apocalyptic revelation and realization that the Arc of the Covenant broadcasts the “Music of the Light” is the main reason you are encouraged to participate in LIVE H2O. The “Concert for the Living Water” features loving people worldwide singing a “New Song” (Rev. 14:1) in LOVE (528Hz).

[applehead250609]

hi all haw are you. i am reading this chapter and i dont aderstand why all are afraid that the end is caming. is not the end is a new begining for human nation.
21/12/2012 is anly a day were 1000 years of one raound of the san is end and is begining a new one. 
i just believe that like i believe in ather things.
i dont now why bat i believe that.
the end is near yes bad no one now the exact day.
GOD SAIDS:I WILL CAME LIKE THE THIVE IN THE NIGHT
SOW dont wayst  your time in minless thoughts that make you sad. (touche  )
thing that life is fool of saprises.
GIVE all the love you all have in your hard in your lovesones, in your nayboors give a smile in strangers. look around you the sun is raising the birds are singing the most butiful song ever for you. the flowers are gave to you ther owsom parfum only for you. (  bearhug )
WITH ALL MY LOVE TO YOU ALL
KISSES  )

Exactly  Ovelias!!! I don't understand either why people are so afraid that the World will End  :? .The OPPOSITE is the TRUTH,cause the World will not end .Remember,everything is BACKwards and UPSIDE-down,just like most religious things !!!!



TS,even if you will not believe me,I want you to know that I like you very much  .I want to thank you for everything you did and still do for us.You "opened" our minds and managed to "teach us" in a new and, innovate way,coincidencely ,just like Michael did all his life maybe  :idea:  .Anyway for me it doesn't matter who you are,you can be even Michael Faraday lol  :mrgreen: ,what matters to me is your message  .Often people are worshipping the messenger and missing The Message,right  :?: ,which is the most important in the end.People act like it is the messenger that matters and not the message, even when the messenger says it is the message that matters. I am not saying Jesus was not divine; he was and we all can be  :mrgreen: .
I am not saying anything; it is Jesus and the Bible that says it. I am just pointing this fact out to people that say they believe in the Bible, but must not have really read it. Jesus said that it is the truth that sets you FREE. That is the truth. The truth is not always what people want to hear, but it is what sets you FREE.
I remember when Michael "unveiled" his kids and "introduced" them to the world,people said,wow this is the end,they are "opened" to the dangers of the world,their freedom is over.In fact was exactly the OPPOSITE,and look at them now how mature,happy and well they are  .Michael knew exactly :WHY,WHEN and HOW he will do the right thing for his treasure,which are his children  .
Now talking about The End of the World/Apocalypse a little bit  albino/ .
You do not have to be smart to know the truth, but you do have to be rational, be honest, and know a few things that could not be known until now  :mrgreen: .The word “apocalypse” means to unveil, not the end of the world  :shock:  .The meaning of the apocalypse is the OPPOSITE of what most people think. It does not mean the end of the world; it means the revealing of hidden secrets and the beginning of a heaven on earth. The apocalypse is starting now.
It is not the END,it is the BEGINING of something NEW   penguin/ !!!!!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFEO5HP5Azs[/youtube]

[Sarahli]

The word “apocalypse” means to unveil, not the end of the world  :shock:  .The meaning of the apocalypse is the OPPOSITE of what most people think. It does not mean the end of the world; it means the revealing of hidden secrets and the beginning of a heaven on earth. The apocalypse is starting now.
It is not the END,it is the BEGINING of something NEW   penguin/ !!!!!!

I agree with you Applehead, we almost posted at the same time!  lolol/

[ovelias]

thank you @appelhaid250609  bearhug
 yes you have right we have to see deeper and not take all litterally.
love 2 you.

[Sarahli]

I believe this has been posted before, but I'd like to post it again in view of the 1st Sign by TS.

The Sign:

In all cases, you will find the angels are standing on the throne, kneeling on the throne, crouching on the throne, or whatever; but always on the throne! However, angels are not even allowed to sit on God’s throne, much less have their feet on His throne!!! What blasphemy! The devil has a good laugh, no doubt.
There is one ark, though, depicted with a few different yet similar illustrations, where the angels are beside the ark and mercy seat—which is exactly where they belong! And this is the true ark; any and all arks with angels on top of the mercy seat are most certainly counterfeit.

[Do]

BeTheChange, I think it's not so much the Ark at all, it's all about the Blood.  Whose is it, what are its properties, and how does the blood fit with Michael the Archangel and Michael Jackson?  I believe we're going to be reading of miracles and more Signs.  It's all about the blood, and it's going to be a miracle.  In Cry, the choir sings "You're the Chosen One", and Michael sings "I'm going to need some kind of sign". He sings that "they", not "we", don't know when it's all going to end, though he sings "I" twice. Stories buried could include the Ark.  "They'll be no more wars", could only be after the return of Christ, Michael the Archangel.  Finally he sings, "I will answer all your prayers."  I believe the Sign he's looking for could be the "transfer" of the blood to Michael.  MJ once said, "Have mercy for I have been bleeding for a long time."  Remember the bloody shirt 'In the closet', but now coming out to the world, priced $3.99 = 21 = 777.

MJonmind, love your view on this!

And may I add this words from CRY:

"Cry with me,  Put it all on me . . . why YOU put it all on me . . .(who is he referring to? God? Jesus? Mankind? Who is putting WHAT on him?)
If we all cry at the same time tonight . . . Change the world.”

MJonmind:
Well, I know this seems a stretch, but somewhere along the line we're going to have to see a miracle if we believe the Bible--whether Jesus coming in the clouds, Michael's blood and body being changed to immortal, or our bodies either resurrected and/or changed to forever young, as TS declares confidently.

When I read that I thought of what Martin Bashir asked Michael when they stood at a replica of the coffin of Toetanchamon: 'Would you like to be buried in something like this?'
Michael answered: 'No, I don't ever want to be buried, I would like to live forever.'

When I heard him say this years ago, I thought, yeah, well, you're in denial, we ALL gonna die some day. When I hear this today again, I hear some kind of confidance in his voice, like he knows something that we don't know (yet!)

'He was like an old soul in a little body'

I'm now feeling more than ever that Michael is a very, very special man.

Guys, I'm so amazed by all of the posts in this thread!!
I was very, very confused by TS latest post and because I don't have much knowledge of the bible, I had such a hard time processing all of what he said. But, nevertheless, I was very intriged by it, so I read all the posts in here and I learned A LOT!
A few days ago it suddenly seemed to 'click' in my head! Like the puzzle was becoming a piece of art!!
I want to thank you ALL for your amazing words and explanations, and I keep on reading and learning!

[MJonmind]

[...]Wishingstar, you and BeTheChange's posts are just so poignant and heart-stirring. [...]

+1

I also adore your posts, MjonMind, Grace, Sarahli
 bearhug

Sarahli, those Ark pics are definitely more accurate with the God's throne purpose.  And they're also simple too, not fancy like many depict.


Applehead, interesting you talk about the unveiling could only happen now. Also I think the unveiling of God doesn’t just choose contributors from one particular faith.  Michael is very widely read.  Sarahli, aren’t there videos of going into amazing universal numbers including pi from an Islamic perspective? I remember seeing them way back from someone.  Also the painting of Michael with the veil pulled back, Michael with the key on the book.  As if only he can put it all together, the bits and pieces from the others God has chosen.  Revelation 5.

[lilwendy]

Anyway for me it doesn't matter who you are,you can be even Michael Faraday lol  :mrgreen: ,what matters to me is your message  .Often people are worshipping the messenger and missing The Message,right  :?: ,which is the most important in the end.People act like it is the messenger that matters and not the message, even when the messenger says it is the message that matters.

 /bravo/

I'm so glad you say this!  I think the same way as you!  Really, to me I really don't care who he is... he's NOT lying... he's delivering TRUTH!  He's NEVER asked us to send money, lie, do anything immoral, he's always directed us back to God!  I don't see what is so sinister about that?  If people want to find something bad though... they will.  They will say his motive is "probably" to recruit people to his belief or to start a cult.  It's all speculation though.  Facts are facts.  All he's done is guided us to information and told us to study and form our own opinions.  It's really quite sad because many of us (including myself sometimes) are self-deceived.  We THINK we are coming from a place of love, but our actions show otherwise.  We assume the worst.  We look for the negative in others. 

I suspect that TS would reveal a lot more of what he knows if he knew we would be receptive to him.   But timing is everything though and it's clear that TS works on a timeline. 

The message is clear: We need to study for ourselves, heighten our powers of discernment, and wake up to what is REALLY going on!

TS, I also want to thank you for all you do for us (even when many of us reject the message).  God bless you and I pray for you to stay strong.

Anyway, applehead250609 thank you thank you for your comment! 

[Sarahli]

@MJonmind I just know something about the golden ratio.

[Dontwalkaway]

Sarahli and Applehead, great posts.  I have also heard that the apocolypse means unveiling.  Hidden truths will be revealed.  It means a new beginning of a new era or golden age.   We will realize we are all connected together and connected with God.  We have a shared consciousness also.  Your thoughts can effect vibrations which effect the world.  Meditating and especially doing it in a group can really make a change in the world.      Everything is vibration,light, and sound.   It has to do with increasing your vibrational level and going to higher dimensions.  I also heard about the 528 frequency and other frequencies.  528Hz is also used for DNA repair.  Love is a high vibration while fear is a low vibration, so it's important to spread love.

I am reading David Wilcock's book, The Source Field Investigations, and it's very very good.  He talks about shared consciousness, telepathy, and the importance of the pineal gland.  Ancient people knew how to work with this energy field or the source field.  They used pyramids and other structures.  I just read the part in the book about the Tibetans.  They levitated huge stones by working with sound vibrations.  They used chanting,drums, and horns placed in key positions.  All of this knowledge has not been readily available to us. 

He even talks about time travel, hover craft and other great stuff !!!  These are events, research, and experiments that really happened.  Not Science Fiction.